The normal setup is encryption after partition. Meaning dropbox is operating on the unencrypted data
You are quite right, of course. I apparently had a stroke of bad luck while I was trying to think:) With ecryptfs, you could actually set it up such that it's the encrypted files that are seen by Dropbox - and incidentally, that setup is still supported by Dropbox, if the encrypted files are on a regular ext2 filesystem. The configuration that they have dropped support for is the one where they see your unencrypted data on ecrypts (yes, and a whole slew of other filesystems, of course). My apologies for the hasty remark, and thank you for your correction.
Or... we simply don't let some assholes make any two letter acronym unusable for the rest of eternity. There's only 676 permutations of two letters, and there's a lot more assholes than that.
Two completely unrelated things can have the same name.
I guess he got the address around the time you were born. Those of us who were on the internet when he got the address can tell you that no, there was no "standard" (which it's not) of putting noreply in the local part of the address to indicate that replies were not wanted. People back then mostly adhered to proper standards, not bogus customs invented when marketdroids discovered the net. It was, and should still be, a perfectly good address.
There's a "really funny" story about xscreensaver, that you should look up one day...
Thank you for the very entertaining read. Now I know not use Debian anymore.
OK, so you're implying that you're already using Debian, but...
My favorite quote from that discussion:
I'm personally totally fine with having an 18 months old xscreensaver in Stable. As I am with nearly all other packages. I mean, it's Stable, not bleeding edge.
Guys, 1999 called, they want their Software Development practices back.
...then you go on to demonstrate that you had absolutely no idea that Debian has a release cycle that averages well over two years.
Can you explain how this very peculiar situation came to be?
> No, he's not an idiot. He's a normal person. Normal people click uninstall and expect their game to be uninstalled, not their OS's GUI
No he's not an idiot, a fucking liar is what he is. There is no way that in any package management system XFCE would have a dependency on a Sudoku app, if anything the dependency would be the other way around. So no, removing Sudoku would never result in XFCE being deleted. Not even Ubuntu would be that stupid.
Actually, it could. Imagine you have a virtual package, say xfce-environment, which depends on sudoku and everything else XFCE. This package is the only package that is explicitly installed, and through it you got your DE. The system is configured to automatically remove packages that are not explicitly requested (mine works that way - when I remove a package, any package that is installed solely because it's a dependency of that package is also removed). So, luser uninstalls sudoku, which forces removal of virtual packagee xfce-environment (since this virtual package has a dependency on everything, including sudoku), now every single other package that xfce-environment depended on, which has no other reasons to exist on the system, will also be uninstalled. I can see this happening, and have seen similar situations myself.
Now, I don't think the system is in the wrong here - the user should probably have paid a bit more attention, but I do not think his story is necessarily false.
Look, Mr. Buzzword, this is a compatibility layer. It's for people who desperately want to run some specific piece of software on a platform it otherwise would not run. They really don't care if it's a "100% native user xperience" (I really can't believe you typed that with a straight face). They care that the shit is running. At all. Maybe you and your friends are freaked out by everything that doesn't look exactly like iTunes, but for those of us who care more about the fact that our fucking software runs at all, the shit you're whining about is so low on the priority list it doesn't even register.
I think that those who still run 14.04 are running servers. And I hardly think a lot will update and reboot.
That's an very strange assumtion. Of course server vulnerabilities are patched, and the machines rebooted if they need be. What did you expect? "Oh noes, my uptimes! I can't rebootz!"
My client is currently in the process of rolling out a new line of products based on Ubuntu 14.04 (the choice of distribution was not mine). Of course we'll be using patched kernels for new machines we build. Simply upgrading to whatever happens to be the latest version of Ubuntu this week is not an option. This has been a year in testing. The next major update is likely two to four years down the line. The previous one (which is still being shipped) is based on Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron).
Meanwhile, every single major revision of the kernel has been announced on Slashdot for at least as far back as I can remember (2.2 something). So how you can't "expect" it to happen is a mystery indeed.
He probably does. It suspect that you don't, though.
It means the buyer pays $0 to the seller of the software.
Indeed, you didn't, because it doesn't. Free, in the context of free software, means that they get the source code, can make modifications to it, and can redistribute it, with or without modifications. The very point of that whole idea is that the user should not be depending on the original author for bugfixes. The entire premise of your ignorant whining is destroyed by the very concept free software, which you (deliberately?) refuse to understand. Everybody else cought on twenty years ago.
I think you missed the major point of T.E.D.'s post, which is in the last sentence. Stallman does indeed tend to be right. Therefore, it is a bit unfortunate that his predictions are presented in a way that makes many (particularly among the influential) ignore them. Because, no matter if he's right or not (which he is), many have a hard time looking past his peculiar looks, behavior and way of carrying a discussion.
(Also, you don't need to provide a link to the parent post. There's one right there beneath yours by magic:)
I may be wrong, but I don't think GP is asking you why you think the device in question isn't secure. I think GP is asking you why you think other devices are.
In med school they dissect humans. Granted, none of those are living material, but I fail see the problem with shoving electrodes into a live human's brain and remote controlling him as a learning tool.
The "granted, none of it was living material" is a quite relevant part.
And no, I'm not comparing humans to cockroaches - I'm just pointing out the absurdity of ignoring the difference between a corpse and a living creature when it comes to how it's acceptable to treat it.
I've never seen one here in Sweden either. According to Wikipedia we apparently have a couple of species as well[0] - but that doesn't change the fact that I've never seen one. Can't ever recall anybody saying they've actually had a problem with cockroaches here either.
Put simply, the fact that something is common, or ordinary, to you does not mean it is so to everyone.
[0] Interestingly, the major one is called "forest cockroach" - I guess the name sort of gives a hint about how often it's seen in cities.
No, no it does not look nice. It looks like complete and utter shit. Seriously, how can anyone look at this and not see garbage?
Well. The same view looks like this to me - so it's probably a bug you have there.
What bothers me with (my version of the same view) is that absolute waste of space that goes on. A couple of percent of my screen is dedicated to showing me useful content.
I'm usually not one for just complaining, but... no.
It looks nice, I'll give you that. But if I want to look at pretty things, I'm not going to tech web sites. I want something simple, readable, and information packed. Hacker News is doing it right. No nonsense, pretty much just text, from the top of the screen to the bottom, from left to right. Layouted in a way I can understand. Having whitespace eat half my screen doesn't cut it. Huge pictures are only acceptable if they really add information to the story. Having them just because they look cool[0] is not. It wastes my attention, my screen estate and my time. On my 1366x768 laptop I can have one comment... one, on my screen at a time in beta. On the current site I can three or four, giving me the context needed to follow the discussion.
The main benefit I can see is that if it's coded right in modern technologies, text only browsers (lynx, elinks, etc.) will have an easier job of parsing it and giving me the stuff I want (the stuff that matters).
Slashdot Mirror
In DC the corresponding number is 63, in Atlanta it's 70 and in LA it's 102. LA tops the list world wide, btw.
This information is two clicks away from the summary: http://inrix.com/scorecard/
That wasn't so hard, was it?
The normal setup is encryption after partition. Meaning dropbox is operating on the unencrypted data
You are quite right, of course. I apparently had a stroke of bad luck while I was trying to think :) With ecryptfs, you could actually set it up such that it's the encrypted files that are seen by Dropbox - and incidentally, that setup is still supported by Dropbox, if the encrypted files are on a regular ext2 filesystem. The configuration that they have dropped support for is the one where they see your unencrypted data on ecrypts (yes, and a whole slew of other filesystems, of course).
My apologies for the hasty remark, and thank you for your correction.
Because the copy is encrypted? That was sort of the whole point.
Or... we simply don't let some assholes make any two letter acronym unusable for the rest of eternity. There's only 676 permutations of two letters, and there's a lot more assholes than that.
Two completely unrelated things can have the same name.
And I need end to end encryption, for things like...
And more so, I also WANT end to end encryption .
.
Exactly. You want it, you don't need it. How do you think the world got by 25 years ago when next to no-one used encryption?
You can still do all those things you listed without it, just as humans have for millennia before it existed.
Yes, all those millennia of purchases on the net...
I guess he got the address around the time you were born. Those of us who were on the internet when he got the address can tell you that no, there was no "standard" (which it's not) of putting noreply in the local part of the address to indicate that replies were not wanted. People back then mostly adhered to proper standards, not bogus customs invented when marketdroids discovered the net. It was, and should still be, a perfectly good address.
There's a "really funny" story about xscreensaver, that you should look up one day...
Thank you for the very entertaining read. Now I know not use Debian anymore.
OK, so you're implying that you're already using Debian, but...
My favorite quote from that discussion:
I'm personally totally fine with having an 18 months old xscreensaver in Stable. As I am with nearly all other packages. I mean, it's Stable, not bleeding edge.
Guys, 1999 called, they want their Software Development practices back.
...then you go on to demonstrate that you had absolutely no idea that Debian has a release cycle that averages well over two years.
Can you explain how this very peculiar situation came to be?
http://kopimistsamfundet.se/en...
Actually it does not. Euro or CHF or Yen are more important. I believe most of the world trade is done in Euro since decades.
Since the Euro hasn't been around for decades, that's unlikely.
> No, he's not an idiot. He's a normal person. Normal people click uninstall and expect their game to be uninstalled, not their OS's GUI
No he's not an idiot, a fucking liar is what he is. There is no way that in any package management system XFCE would have a dependency on a Sudoku app, if anything the dependency would be the other way around. So no, removing Sudoku would never result in XFCE being deleted. Not even Ubuntu would be that stupid.
Actually, it could. Imagine you have a virtual package, say xfce-environment, which depends on sudoku and everything else XFCE. This package is the only package that is explicitly installed, and through it you got your DE. The system is configured to automatically remove packages that are not explicitly requested (mine works that way - when I remove a package, any package that is installed solely because it's a dependency of that package is also removed). So, luser uninstalls sudoku, which forces removal of virtual packagee xfce-environment (since this virtual package has a dependency on everything, including sudoku), now every single other package that xfce-environment depended on, which has no other reasons to exist on the system, will also be uninstalled. I can see this happening, and have seen similar situations myself.
Now, I don't think the system is in the wrong here - the user should probably have paid a bit more attention, but I do not think his story is necessarily false.
Maybe they don't like the concept of thoughtcrime.
$DEITY, this is Poe's Law in effect, right here.
Look, Mr. Buzzword, this is a compatibility layer. It's for people who desperately want to run some specific piece of software on a platform it otherwise would not run. They really don't care if it's a "100% native user xperience" (I really can't believe you typed that with a straight face). They care that the shit is running. At all. Maybe you and your friends are freaked out by everything that doesn't look exactly like iTunes, but for those of us who care more about the fact that our fucking software runs at all, the shit you're whining about is so low on the priority list it doesn't even register.
I think that those who still run 14.04 are running servers. And I hardly think a lot will update and reboot.
That's an very strange assumtion. Of course server vulnerabilities are patched, and the machines rebooted if they need be. What did you expect? "Oh noes, my uptimes! I can't rebootz!"
My client is currently in the process of rolling out a new line of products based on Ubuntu 14.04 (the choice of distribution was not mine). Of course we'll be using patched kernels for new machines we build. Simply upgrading to whatever happens to be the latest version of Ubuntu this week is not an option. This has been a year in testing. The next major update is likely two to four years down the line. The previous one (which is still being shipped) is based on Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron).
Has there been a single video game that was Kickstarted that didn't get reviewed terribly, though?
What the fuck are you even talking about?
Meanwhile, every single major revision of the kernel has been announced on Slashdot for at least as far back as I can remember (2.2 something).
So how you can't "expect" it to happen is a mystery indeed.
Do you understand what free software means?
He probably does. It suspect that you don't, though.
It means the buyer pays $0 to the seller of the software.
Indeed, you didn't, because it doesn't. Free, in the context of free software, means that they get the source code, can make modifications to it, and can redistribute it, with or without modifications. The very point of that whole idea is that the user should not be depending on the original author for bugfixes. The entire premise of your ignorant whining is destroyed by the very concept free software, which you (deliberately?) refuse to understand. Everybody else cought on twenty years ago.
I think you missed the major point of T.E.D.'s post, which is in the last sentence. Stallman does indeed tend to be right. Therefore, it is a bit unfortunate that his predictions are presented in a way that makes many (particularly among the influential) ignore them. Because, no matter if he's right or not (which he is), many have a hard time looking past his peculiar looks, behavior and way of carrying a discussion.
(Also, you don't need to provide a link to the parent post. There's one right there beneath yours by magic:)
I may be wrong, but I don't think GP is asking you why you think the device in question isn't secure. I think GP is asking you why you think other devices are.
You are quite right. His remaining $2.43B are not nearly enough to cover living expenses now that he wasted almost 3% on a house.
No, the point is that the users should have the source, so they can fix it if it's broken. Everything else is optional.
And I'm sure EQ stole nothing from MUDs....
In med school they dissect humans. Granted, none of those are living material, but I fail see the problem with shoving electrodes into a live human's brain and remote controlling him as a learning tool.
The "granted, none of it was living material" is a quite relevant part.
And no, I'm not comparing humans to cockroaches - I'm just pointing out the absurdity of ignoring the difference between a corpse and a living creature when it comes to how it's acceptable to treat it.
I've never seen one here in Sweden either. According to Wikipedia we apparently have a couple of species as well[0] - but that doesn't change the fact that I've never seen one. Can't ever recall anybody saying they've actually had a problem with cockroaches here either.
Put simply, the fact that something is common, or ordinary, to you does not mean it is so to everyone.
[0] Interestingly, the major one is called "forest cockroach" - I guess the name sort of gives a hint about how often it's seen in cities.
It looks nice, I'll give you that.
No, no it does not look nice. It looks like complete and utter shit. Seriously, how can anyone look at this and not see garbage?
Well. The same view looks like this to me - so it's probably a bug you have there.
What bothers me with (my version of the same view) is that absolute waste of space that goes on. A couple of percent of my screen is dedicated to showing me useful content.
I'm usually not one for just complaining, but... no.
It looks nice, I'll give you that. But if I want to look at pretty things, I'm not going to tech web sites. I want something simple, readable, and information packed. Hacker News is doing it right. No nonsense, pretty much just text, from the top of the screen to the bottom, from left to right. Layouted in a way I can understand.
Having whitespace eat half my screen doesn't cut it. Huge pictures are only acceptable if they really add information to the story. Having them just because they look cool[0] is not. It wastes my attention, my screen estate and my time.
On my 1366x768 laptop I can have one comment... one, on my screen at a time in beta. On the current site I can three or four, giving me the context needed to follow the discussion.
The main benefit I can see is that if it's coded right in modern technologies, text only browsers (lynx, elinks, etc.) will have an easier job of parsing it and giving me the stuff I want (the stuff that matters).
[0] For example: http://yro-beta.slashdot.org/story/13/10/01/1238216/former-microsoft-privacy-chief-doesnt-trust-company-uses-open-source-software