I've been using Linux exclusively for more than fifteen years, and I can't remember the last time I downloaded anything from Sourceforge. If five of those 35 are the package maintainers of the biggest distributions, the software could easily have a million users[0] and it wouldn't change that number one bit.
[0] No, I don't think it has a million users. But your metrics is very flawed either way.
2.7. The metric ton is a bit larger than the long ton. Why they decided it was OK to introduce an extra significant in the conversion is beyond me though.
While I agree that it's a stupid unit, ft2 to m2 conversion is really easy. Divide by ten, and you have a good approximate. Lean towards rounding down, if unsure. 1 square meter is 10.7639 square feet.
Well, that's how it started. These days it's mostly old habit, plus receiving mail orders here is more hassle than simply going to a store and buying whatever I need.
Not nearly as offensive as the post it was replying to.
Or, to put in a different way, that's not the paragraph that was upvoted. The first paragraph was the one that received the votes. The second one was merely a bonus.
That's a good point. And yes, I agree that semver is in no way standard. In fact, I was mainly lazy and picked the first semi thorough reference I could find on the classical versioning number scheme, though to be honest I'd rather just distill it to:
A version number is a tuple of integers of decreasing significance separatade by a dot. Whenever one of the integers is incremented by one, the subsequent ones are reset to 0 or removed.
Other shenanigans (such as -rcX) varies between projects, and is usually easy enough to figure out from context.
/ Glad I've always preferred Slackware. No games, no GNU/purism, no corporate BS. Just a rock-solid distro that stays true to its roots.
That's cool. How about it if Volkerding had to spend all his time addressing bogus bug reports caused by fucked up packages people found on slackware-coolstuff.org?
Debian doesn't have a problem with unofficial sources. Heck, they don't even have a problem with broken packages. They only have a problem with having to spend time resolving bugs that turn out not to be theirs. If it was obvious that dmo wasn't an official repo, there wouldn't be a problem. That's exactly what the name change is trying to address.
The problem essentially boils down to people reporting bugs in dmo-packages directly to debian itself. Sometimes in obscure ways so that it takes time to identify the mistake. This puts an unneeded burden on debian developers, when it's reports for software that's out of their control.
All debian wants here is to not take the blame for, and spend unneeded work on resolving issues coming from broken dmo-packages. The risk of that happening decreases if 'debian' in not in the name. One of the bug reports linked in the DPL's post pretty much directly states that since the URL had "debian" in its name, the user thought it was an official debian repo.
They are far less likely to put a farmer on that says that climate change might be happening but he doesn't believe humans are the cause.
Why would they ask a farmer that? He/she is not very likely to know. It makes more sense to ask... you know, scientists... which is what the TFA is about. Should we as a car mechanic about medical advice and a lawyer about network topology as well?
Uhm. Read his post again. He didn't mention Oracle. He mentioned selling MySQL to Sun. That was before Oracle got involved. He's talking about how the MySQL founders sold it off to Sun for $1BN.
We observed no safety advantage to hands-free as compared with hand-held telephones. This finding was not explained by imbalances in the subjects' age, education, socioeconomic status, or other demographic characteristics. Nor can it be explained by suggesting that those with units that leave the hands free do more driving. One possibility is that motor vehicle collisions result from a driver's limitations with regard to attention rather than dexterity. Regardless of the explanation, our data do not support the policy followed in some countries of restricting hand-held cellular telephones but not those that leave the hands free.
In related news, Queen Marie Antoinette asked her subjects to "Let them eat cake" when learning that her peasants lacked bread. When queried further on the subject, she elaborated: "they should get some, cakes are awesome!"
You're vastly exaggerating their "corruption" here. They're not a language police[0]. They are simply making an observation about words they notice have popped up in common usage[1]. Nobody really cares about this list, people just read it for the curiosity value.
To make this clear, the final sentences in their own comment about the debacle translates roughly to: "Everybody's part of deciding what words are introduced in the language by choosing what words we use. If we want ogooglingsbar in the language we'll use the word and it is our use that is important - nothing a multinational company can change by coercion. The word is free![2]"
[0] If we have one, it's not them, but rather Svenska Akademien - the same folks that award the Nobel Prize in Literature. [1] Not that I've ever actually heard ogooglingsbar it being used by anybody. [2] A little word play there - "ordet är fritt", literally meaning "the word is free", is a Swedish expression used when you invite anybody present to speak their mind on something.
Slashdot Mirror
...or heterosexuals having children by the regular process. The kids don't really have a choice either way.
I've been using Linux exclusively for more than fifteen years, and I can't remember the last time I downloaded anything from Sourceforge. If five of those 35 are the package maintainers of the biggest distributions, the software could easily have a million users[0] and it wouldn't change that number one bit.
[0] No, I don't think it has a million users. But your metrics is very flawed either way.
Ugh. I got confused. The number "3" would not be a long ton, but a short ton. The point still stands that 2.7 would be the metric number.
2.7. The metric ton is a bit larger than the long ton. Why they decided it was OK to introduce an extra significant in the conversion is beyond me though.
While I agree that it's a stupid unit, ft2 to m2 conversion is really easy. Divide by ten, and you have a good approximate. Lean towards rounding down, if unsure.
1 square meter is 10.7639 square feet.
That's Gothia Cup, not Gotha Cup. TFA has it wrong as well.
Horrible event, btw. The city is filled with thousands of smelly little football playing brats, making transportation all but impossible.
I couldn't help but notice that you mistakenly assume chronological ordering where there is none.
One click shopping :)
Well, that's how it started. These days it's mostly old habit, plus receiving mail orders here is more hassle than simply going to a store and buying whatever I need.
These seat belts and air bags are pointless. How often do I crash anyway?
Example: 5.2e3 meters.
Looks hexadecimal to me.
Completely unambiguous to any Slashdotter.
For sure! :)
Not nearly as offensive as the post it was replying to.
Or, to put in a different way, that's not the paragraph that was upvoted. The first paragraph was the one that received the votes. The second one was merely a bonus.
So, the alternative is that they're shooting at us. Comforting.
That's a good point. And yes, I agree that semver is in no way standard. In fact, I was mainly lazy and picked the first semi thorough reference I could find on the classical versioning number scheme, though to be honest I'd rather just distill it to:
A version number is a tuple of integers of decreasing significance separatade by a dot. Whenever one of the integers is incremented by one, the subsequent ones are reset to 0 or removed.
Other shenanigans (such as -rcX) varies between projects, and is usually easy enough to figure out from context.
No.
Questioning suspects is a huge civil liberty breach, I'm sure...
/ Glad I've always preferred Slackware. No games, no GNU/purism, no corporate BS. Just a rock-solid distro that stays true to its roots.
That's cool. How about it if Volkerding had to spend all his time addressing bogus bug reports caused by fucked up packages people found on slackware-coolstuff.org?
Debian doesn't have a problem with unofficial sources. Heck, they don't even have a problem with broken packages. They only have a problem with having to spend time resolving bugs that turn out not to be theirs. If it was obvious that dmo wasn't an official repo, there wouldn't be a problem. That's exactly what the name change is trying to address.
The problem essentially boils down to people reporting bugs in dmo-packages directly to debian itself. Sometimes in obscure ways so that it takes time to identify the mistake. This puts an unneeded burden on debian developers, when it's reports for software that's out of their control.
All debian wants here is to not take the blame for, and spend unneeded work on resolving issues coming from broken dmo-packages. The risk of that happening decreases if 'debian' in not in the name. One of the bug reports linked in the DPL's post pretty much directly states that since the URL had "debian" in its name, the user thought it was an official debian repo.
Except, of course, that the request wasn't pointless:
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/2012-May/026678.html
The name actually caused real problems for Debian maintainers and users.
They are far less likely to put a farmer on that says that climate change might be happening but he doesn't believe humans are the cause.
Why would they ask a farmer that? He/she is not very likely to know. It makes more sense to ask... you know, scientists... which is what the TFA is about.
Should we as a car mechanic about medical advice and a lawyer about network topology as well?
Uhm. Read his post again. He didn't mention Oracle. He mentioned selling MySQL to Sun. That was before Oracle got involved. He's talking about how the MySQL founders sold it off to Sun for $1BN.
A bunch of citations in Wikipedia's section about it.
Quoth http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199702133360701#t=articleResults:
We observed no safety advantage to hands-free as compared with hand-held telephones. This finding was not explained by imbalances in the subjects' age, education, socioeconomic status, or other demographic characteristics. Nor can it be explained by suggesting that those with units that leave the hands free do more driving. One possibility is that motor vehicle collisions result from a driver's limitations with regard to attention rather than dexterity. Regardless of the explanation, our data do not support the policy followed in some countries of restricting hand-held cellular telephones but not those that leave the hands free.
Ah, so Anonymous Coward is British. Thanks for finally letting us in on the secret...
In related news, Queen Marie Antoinette asked her subjects to "Let them eat cake" when learning that her peasants lacked bread. When queried further on the subject, she elaborated: "they should get some, cakes are awesome!"
You're vastly exaggerating their "corruption" here. They're not a language police[0]. They are simply making an observation about words they notice have popped up in common usage[1]. Nobody really cares about this list, people just read it for the curiosity value.
To make this clear, the final sentences in their own comment about the debacle translates roughly to: "Everybody's part of deciding what words are introduced in the language by choosing what words we use. If we want ogooglingsbar in the language we'll use the word and it is our use that is important - nothing a multinational company can change by coercion. The word is free![2]"
[0] If we have one, it's not them, but rather Svenska Akademien - the same folks that award the Nobel Prize in Literature.
[1] Not that I've ever actually heard ogooglingsbar it being used by anybody.
[2] A little word play there - "ordet är fritt", literally meaning "the word is free", is a Swedish expression used when you invite anybody present to speak their mind on something.
So which app replaced his rice cooker?
The exploding battery, obviously.