I am speculating, admittedly. Just as I'm speculating when I suggest that Uncyclopedia, Fred Phelps or Bagdad Bob might not be telling the truth. There comes a point when trust in a source is so deteriorated that nothing they say can be taken at face value. Phoronix reached this level several years ago. I'm not claiming that Michael Larabel is lying. I'm claiming that it's just about as likely that Michael Larabel is lying as that he isn't. And when it comes to news, that's pretty poor odds.
Quite frankly, because that's the chain of events I've always observed. You may be an exception, and if so, I apologize. It normally goes something like this (Cast: Waitress (W), Meat Eater (ME), Vegan/Vegetarian (V)):
ME: I'll have a steak. Rare please. V: I'll have the veggie burger. Do you know if the fries is fried in vegetable fat. W: I don't know.... I could ask in the kitchen... V: Nah, never mind. Just give me some salad with it. W: OK. ME: Are you a vegetarian? V: Yeah. ME: Why? V: I oppose the meat industry. It's actually quite gross. The animals are practically tortured... ME: OK. I love my rare steak. V: I see. ME: You know... aren't you a bit hypocritical? V: Yeah, perhaps. Still, I like to be responsible for as few unnecessary deaths as possible. ME: You can hardly go outside without killing an insect you know. V: Perhaps, but at least I make an effort. And I think there's a difference between cows and insects. Say, did you see that movie... ME: And if you're killing insects anyway, you might as well eat meat. V: That really doesn't follow... ME: Hypocrite! <at this point veggie dude turns very defensive, and it ends with the meat eater assuming all vegetarians are assholes>
Your experience may be different. But it's what I always observe. Over. And. Over. Again. And yes. I eat meat. I never question them, and I never get questioned in return.
Interesting, out of the roughtly similar number of vegans I know, none has ever been intolerant towards me - a meat eater. Turns out, if you're not acting like a dick towards them, they won't be acting like dicks towards you - whudda thunk, eh?
The "problem" with screen is that it requires manual intervention to resume. FWIW I've been using screen for this for the past ten years or so (well, tmux the last one or two...), but it's still annoying to have to reconnect and attach. mosh handles the reconnection transparently.
I'm sorry, but that is simply not true. At least not outside the English only speaking world.
ls -l may still be ls -l, but its man page, and the filenames it spits out on stdout are localized, with non US-ASCII characters. The files we view with cat and less are filled with non US-ASCII characters.
I just started using it (after seeing this article) to connect from my laptop which I suspend and carry in my backpack from work to home. Opened the lid, and the session is still seemingly intact after the few seconds it takes to find my home wifi. No 4G connection in the world is gonna help a device that's effectively turned off.
I use it. I prefer software I can access through an SSH client (so I don't need any other special software on whatever machine I happen to be using). I used Pine for a while, but I got annoyed with the license issue that stopped Debian from shipping compiled binaries, and mutt handled threading better.
That was the reason for starting to use it. After that I've noticed a ton of details that are nice. It handles mailboxes with thousands of mails with acceptable speed. It lets me edit headers of outgoing mails - including content type headers, which all MUAs tend to get wrong every so often. I can use an editor of my choice. Decent search mechanism. &c, &c...
To be fair, it's a bit too complex for my taste, but I never did invest time in investigating how to switch to sup or notmuch, since it works.
I'm calling it that because that's what I think it is.
Trolling is posting absurd statements in order to generate a response you would otherwise not have gotten. Deliberately posting incorrect information is, IMO, a subset of posting absurd statements, obviously with the effect that you'll get other responses than what you would have gotten if you'd posted something that was correct.
If I say I knew your mother is a whore and and I saw her shoot heroin yesterday (completely unrelated to the truth), you might react differently than if I don't mention her at all (which is more sensible, since I don't know her). If I deliberately spout random numbers as facts, sensible discussion is stalled and/or degraded, and that is quite likely my purpose. I honestly don't see how that doesn't qualify as trolling.
I think it's rather a "factually incorrect is not a mod option, so I use troll instead". Which is fair, tbh. Deliberately posting incorrect numbers is trolling. Doing so unintentionally - well, then you shouldn't really be part of the discussion anyway.
However, if you want to be fair to the numbers there are 1285 acres water per person on the planet and plankton sequesters more carbon that grass.
Do you just keep pulling these numbers out of your ass?
Surface area, water: 361,132,000 km2[0] Surface area, water, in acres: 89,000,000,000[1] People on earth: ~7,000,000,000
Surface area (water, acres) divided by people: 89,000,000,000 / 7,000,000,000 ~= 13.
13. Thirteen. Not 1285. You're off by a factor of 100 this time!
Btw, not saying that "water surface area" has any relevance whatsoever in this case (it may or may not, I would have guessed volume mattered more than area, but I don't know) - but please, for the love of FSM, stop making numbers up just to use them in your arguments.
Let's start with wrong: There is about 5[0] acres of land mass per human alive today. Roughly 30% of this is forests (much less is arable), leaving slightly less than 2 acres per individual to "sequester the gas produced", rather than the 10 you imply. This is the result of a very trivial google and wikipedia search - I have not even looked at the facts behind the "1 acre of forest needed for 1 adult" number - I hope it too isn't removed by a factor of five from reality.
Now over to misleading: How much land it takes to produce the amount of vegetables needed to feed a family is irrelevant, as vegans are a minority. Far more interesting is how much is needed to produce the cattle needed to feed same family. Is the extra greenhouse gasses produced by unnecessary animal diet even included in your 1 acre/person number above?
[0] Surface area: 148,940,000 km2, which is ~= 36,800,000,000 acres, diveded by 7,000,000,000 people leaves roughly 5 acres per person.
No, it's not cheaper. It takes a few minutes from every single class. In a fourty minute class, that's ~5% of the time. I suspect that if you could increase teacher efficiency by 5% that's well worth the cost of a few rfid chips and readers.
Of course. So is crime. Thus we form a consensus to decide what is and what is not a crime - but it is nontheless "in the eye of the beholder". Hacktivists act because they feel that the laws, for whatever reason, are either unjust, insufficient or not thoroughly enforced. It is the means they have available - others have other means open to them, such as bribing/tricking law makers to make absurd laws, or governments to invade other countries on false premises. I have a hard time arguing that the former are more morally corrupt than the later.
Truth to tell, I can't think of a single recent (recent, being the past several years, at least) target of a "hacktivist attack" that wasn't, well a dick, and didn't have it coming. I'm generally not much for vigilantism, but hacktivism is not particularly harmful, and the targets tend to be deserving.
Heh - I just noticed your.sig... it's interesting to see someone defend war of all thing, and then go righteously pedantic over DDoS and stolen e-mails:-)
You overestimate your importance to us. We don't really care if you're convinced or not.
What is absolutely clear though, is that there are at least some people that do boycott big entertainment media, due to their behavior. And it is not really our job to prove that the boycott accounts for large amounts of money. We honestly don't care if the companies understand that that's why they lose (our) money. However, if the companies are upset about incomes not living up to expectations, maybe they should spend some time trying to figure out why, rather than just making up excuses, as that certainly won't help them (even if they get their ridiculous laws passed).
Commonly referred to as Jantelagen here in Sweden. And all reports about it are spectacularly exaggerated. Yes, it exists. No, in reality it doesn't actually hold anybody back, except in the minds of the most ultra libertarian conspiracy nutheads that (wrongly) also believe it's also impossible to get rich in the Nordic countries.
I'm sorry, but I'll take a snide remark about being "lucky" once every six months over 80 hour work weeks.
Which is also why I don't understand why programmers and IT usually put down other departments like sales and marketing.
I put down sales and marketing because they are liars. No other reason. Every single time sales and marketing reps produce anything, be that as little as a two minute conversation with a potential customer, they lie. Now, you can go on about how you can't present all the technical details to the end users and whatnot, but that does not change the fact that you should not lie. Whatever the fuck did their goddamn parents do while they were growing up? Not parenting, apparently.
I do recognize that sales and marketing is hard. I suck at it, perhaps because I don't lie. But I'll be damned if I'm ever going to respect someone who does. Fuck them. Seriously.
You do realize that the people awarding the Peace prize have nothing whatsoever to do with the people awarding the Literature prize? The only linking factor is parts of the name of the prize.
Simple. You give them time to work on fixing bugs, rather than forcing them to spit out the next feature, and the next, and the next, and the next, all while changing the specs behind their backs.
Developers want to write quality software. Management stops them from doing so. At least in every single case I've observed close enough to have a clue about.
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I am speculating, admittedly. Just as I'm speculating when I suggest that Uncyclopedia, Fred Phelps or Bagdad Bob might not be telling the truth. There comes a point when trust in a source is so deteriorated that nothing they say can be taken at face value.
Phoronix reached this level several years ago.
I'm not claiming that Michael Larabel is lying. I'm claiming that it's just about as likely that Michael Larabel is lying as that he isn't. And when it comes to news, that's pretty poor odds.
Phoronix never confirms anything. Phoronix makes shit up, or possibly, at best, speculates.
Can we get a story when this is reported by a place that's at least remotely trustworthy?
Good for you. Why do you assume I'm being a dick?
Quite frankly, because that's the chain of events I've always observed. You may be an exception, and if so, I apologize.
It normally goes something like this (Cast: Waitress (W), Meat Eater (ME), Vegan/Vegetarian (V)):
ME: I'll have a steak. Rare please.
V: I'll have the veggie burger. Do you know if the fries is fried in vegetable fat.
W: I don't know.... I could ask in the kitchen...
V: Nah, never mind. Just give me some salad with it.
W: OK.
ME: Are you a vegetarian?
V: Yeah.
ME: Why?
V: I oppose the meat industry. It's actually quite gross. The animals are practically tortured...
ME: OK. I love my rare steak.
V: I see.
ME: You know... aren't you a bit hypocritical?
V: Yeah, perhaps. Still, I like to be responsible for as few unnecessary deaths as possible.
ME: You can hardly go outside without killing an insect you know.
V: Perhaps, but at least I make an effort. And I think there's a difference between cows and insects. Say, did you see that movie...
ME: And if you're killing insects anyway, you might as well eat meat.
V: That really doesn't follow...
ME: Hypocrite!
<at this point veggie dude turns very defensive, and it ends with the meat eater assuming all vegetarians are assholes>
Your experience may be different. But it's what I always observe. Over. And. Over. Again.
And yes. I eat meat. I never question them, and I never get questioned in return.
Interesting, out of the roughtly similar number of vegans I know, none has ever been intolerant towards me - a meat eater.
Turns out, if you're not acting like a dick towards them, they won't be acting like dicks towards you - whudda thunk, eh?
Could you please point me to a place where they have this proper journalism of which you speak?
The "problem" with screen is that it requires manual intervention to resume. FWIW I've been using screen for this for the past ten years or so (well, tmux the last one or two...), but it's still annoying to have to reconnect and attach. mosh handles the reconnection transparently.
I'm sorry, but that is simply not true. At least not outside the English only speaking world.
ls -l may still be ls -l, but its man page, and the filenames it spits out on stdout are localized, with non US-ASCII characters. The files we view with cat and less are filled with non US-ASCII characters.
I just started using it (after seeing this article) to connect from my laptop which I suspend and carry in my backpack from work to home. Opened the lid, and the session is still seemingly intact after the few seconds it takes to find my home wifi.
No 4G connection in the world is gonna help a device that's effectively turned off.
I don't think this is a very unusual use case.
I use it. I prefer software I can access through an SSH client (so I don't need any other special software on whatever machine I happen to be using). I used Pine for a while, but I got annoyed with the license issue that stopped Debian from shipping compiled binaries, and mutt handled threading better.
That was the reason for starting to use it. After that I've noticed a ton of details that are nice. It handles mailboxes with thousands of mails with acceptable speed. It lets me edit headers of outgoing mails - including content type headers, which all MUAs tend to get wrong every so often. I can use an editor of my choice. Decent search mechanism. &c, &c...
To be fair, it's a bit too complex for my taste, but I never did invest time in investigating how to switch to sup or notmuch, since it works.
I'm calling it that because that's what I think it is.
Trolling is posting absurd statements in order to generate a response you would otherwise not have gotten.
Deliberately posting incorrect information is, IMO, a subset of posting absurd statements, obviously with the effect that you'll get other responses than what you would have gotten if you'd posted something that was correct.
If I say I knew your mother is a whore and and I saw her shoot heroin yesterday (completely unrelated to the truth), you might react differently than if I don't mention her at all (which is more sensible, since I don't know her). If I deliberately spout random numbers as facts, sensible discussion is stalled and/or degraded, and that is quite likely my purpose. I honestly don't see how that doesn't qualify as trolling.
I think it's rather a "factually incorrect is not a mod option, so I use troll instead". Which is fair, tbh.
Deliberately posting incorrect numbers is trolling. Doing so unintentionally - well, then you shouldn't really be part of the discussion anyway.
Do you just keep pulling these numbers out of your ass?
Surface area, water: 361,132,000 km2[0]
Surface area, water, in acres: 89,000,000,000[1]
People on earth: ~7,000,000,000
Surface area (water, acres) divided by people: 89,000,000,000 / 7,000,000,000 ~= 13.
13. Thirteen. Not 1285. You're off by a factor of 100 this time!
Btw, not saying that "water surface area" has any relevance whatsoever in this case (it may or may not, I would have guessed volume mattered more than area, but I don't know) - but please, for the love of FSM, stop making numbers up just to use them in your arguments.
[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth
[1] http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=361%2C132%2C000+km2+in+acres
Your numbers are both wrong and misleading.
Let's start with wrong:
There is about 5[0] acres of land mass per human alive today. Roughly 30% of this is forests (much less is arable), leaving slightly less than 2 acres per individual to "sequester the gas produced", rather than the 10 you imply.
This is the result of a very trivial google and wikipedia search - I have not even looked at the facts behind the "1 acre of forest needed for 1 adult" number - I hope it too isn't removed by a factor of five from reality.
Now over to misleading:
How much land it takes to produce the amount of vegetables needed to feed a family is irrelevant, as vegans are a minority. Far more interesting is how much is needed to produce the cattle needed to feed same family. Is the extra greenhouse gasses produced by unnecessary animal diet even included in your 1 acre/person number above?
[0] Surface area: 148,940,000 km2, which is ~= 36,800,000,000 acres, diveded by 7,000,000,000 people leaves roughly 5 acres per person.
should: There's not an unlimited range of usable frequencies.
is: The infrastructure is mostly funded by tax money.
A stealth plane analogy. I didn't see that coming!
(very informative post, btw - thank you:)
No, it's not cheaper. It takes a few minutes from every single class. In a fourty minute class, that's ~5% of the time. I suspect that if you could increase teacher efficiency by 5% that's well worth the cost of a few rfid chips and readers.
Of course. So is crime. Thus we form a consensus to decide what is and what is not a crime - but it is nontheless "in the eye of the beholder".
Hacktivists act because they feel that the laws, for whatever reason, are either unjust, insufficient or not thoroughly enforced. It is the means they have available - others have other means open to them, such as bribing/tricking law makers to make absurd laws, or governments to invade other countries on false premises. I have a hard time arguing that the former are more morally corrupt than the later.
Truth to tell, I can't think of a single recent (recent, being the past several years, at least) target of a "hacktivist attack" that wasn't, well a dick, and didn't have it coming. I'm generally not much for vigilantism, but hacktivism is not particularly harmful, and the targets tend to be deserving.
Heh - I just noticed your .sig... it's interesting to see someone defend war of all thing, and then go righteously pedantic over DDoS and stolen e-mails :-)
Well, good thing then, that it's easy to protect yourself against hacktivists. Just stop being dicks.
You overestimate your importance to us. We don't really care if you're convinced or not.
What is absolutely clear though, is that there are at least some people that do boycott big entertainment media, due to their behavior. And it is not really our job to prove that the boycott accounts for large amounts of money. We honestly don't care if the companies understand that that's why they lose (our) money. However, if the companies are upset about incomes not living up to expectations, maybe they should spend some time trying to figure out why, rather than just making up excuses, as that certainly won't help them (even if they get their ridiculous laws passed).
Commonly referred to as Jantelagen here in Sweden. And all reports about it are spectacularly exaggerated. Yes, it exists. No, in reality it doesn't actually hold anybody back, except in the minds of the most ultra libertarian conspiracy nutheads that (wrongly) also believe it's also impossible to get rich in the Nordic countries.
I'm sorry, but I'll take a snide remark about being "lucky" once every six months over 80 hour work weeks.
So how do you deal with servers that have more than one purpose?
lax-debian-prod-dns1-mail2-wiki1-dev-svn1-mercurial1 ?
To be honest, I don't know how many sales this is costing me, but not knowing isn't a particularly comfortable feeling.
Do you know how many sales it is giving you?
I put down sales and marketing because they are liars. No other reason. Every single time sales and marketing reps produce anything, be that as little as a two minute conversation with a potential customer, they lie.
Now, you can go on about how you can't present all the technical details to the end users and whatnot, but that does not change the fact that you should not lie. Whatever the fuck did their goddamn parents do while they were growing up? Not parenting, apparently.
I do recognize that sales and marketing is hard. I suck at it, perhaps because I don't lie. But I'll be damned if I'm ever going to respect someone who does. Fuck them. Seriously.
You do realize that the people awarding the Peace prize have nothing whatsoever to do with the people awarding the Literature prize? The only linking factor is parts of the name of the prize.
Simple. You give them time to work on fixing bugs, rather than forcing them to spit out the next feature, and the next, and the next, and the next, all while changing the specs behind their backs.
Developers want to write quality software. Management stops them from doing so. At least in every single case I've observed close enough to have a clue about.