Yes, I suppose that it would be better to switch announces with states, but the effect still is the same.
They have acknowledged the other sides point of view, and even used some of it. Slashdot often cries that Microsoft doesn't look at the open source crowd's point of view, but they can be the same exact way when the positions are reversed. (And for you nitpickers out there, the keyword is 'can'.) Microsoft is a business, a relatively new one at that. If a new business has a way to keep the money flowing, then they will do it!
Have you noticed that they are becoming more 'open' lately, whether it be in ideas or practice? They already have the market share, they already have a remarkable stream of money coming in, and it will be that way for a long time. So, with money taken care of, they can become more open and reap in the benefits of that. News sources will carry the story and they will be seen as heroes of the people. The attitude toward Microsoft by geeks will also soften (not by much, but still...).
Nobody cries that Coca-Cola won't release it's 'Secret Recipe,' yet in principle, it's the same thing.
"So when will PC get more good games, and not these PS2 or Xbox shill games?"
Probably once developers want to make their games work on a variety of hardware combinations rather than just making it work on one or two specific combinations.
Microsoft announces that they are going to do something that Slashdot has wanted them to do for ages, and Slashdot proceeds to find faults with it?
You can't have everything perfect. They are doing a Good Thing, yet they still get ripped to shreads.
It's like saying that it's bad for Bill Gates to 'only' give a few millions to charities. So what if it isn't a lot of his money, he's still giving out millions.
Atleast they are opening up somethings and being considerate (whether for selfish or non-selfish reasons doesn't matter) to other companies.
But of course they are Microsoft, thus are Totally Evil and even if they found and released free of charge and free of any restrictions, the cure to cancer, formulated a reliable plan to end world hunger, AND found a way for geeks to get laid, they would still be seen as Totally Evil.
Heck, Slashdot would probably say that their plan didn't solve world hunger fast enough.
He does bring up a valid point though (although largely inadvertantly): Not ALL deaths are reasonably avoidable.
Just as an example, in my most recent Nethack game, I stepped on a squeeky board, then opened the door to a large zoo (the board was by accident, I didn't know it was there). As a wizard, I had to use my magick to try and win. However, I soon ran out of magick power and began running for the stairs. Running thru a room to the stairs, I fell down a trap door. Landed in a room that had a White Unicorn and about 5 soldier ants. And I had no magick power left.
I'll spare the rest of the story.
Could I have avoided it? Not unless I knew where the squeeky trap was.
Was I angry? Of course.
Was it fair? Not really.
A large problem with Permadeaths is that no one knows what to do with accidental deaths. What if you were walking along a path in your favorite MMORPG, and a Giant who is being attacked by a group of adventureres throws a rock, misses them and hits you, instantly killing you. Are you expected to shrug it off, and start a new character?
Games are meant to be a release from reality. We only have one chance to live in real life, so why should we only have one in our virtual lives?
I remember using Knoppix for a while, then I downloaded a new version of it (after somehow losing the older one) and saw it had no nethack-type game...I was using Windows a lot more after that.
Straight from the horses mouth...
http://www.news.wisc.edu/10833.html
I saw that a few days ago during the Nanotechnology article; I never thought of submitting it.
Well, at my school (as with one of the above poster's), only IE is used on the computers (Even the Macs!), so it is nice to have Portable Firefox on your thumb drive. In fact, that was the main reason I brought mine to school, until I could persuade the computer teacher to let me have a computer that doesn't wipe it's hard drive everytime it is rebooted.
It was a random example. I could've used Morrowind, Halo 2, Mercenaries, Amped 2, but decided to use PGR 2.
But I suppose that would be why I didn't see a difference, heh.
"It's getting to a point where it's hard to charge money for an operating system or an office suite..."
I don't know about that one. Microsoft is doing pretty well from what I've heard. The typical person has this kind of attitude to operating systems:
Microsoft Windows: "Hey! A new version! I better go out and get it right away!"
Apple: "Don't they make the iPod? Too bad they are too elite for me."
Linux: "Isn't that some kind of seed?" (I wish I was joking, someone actually said that when I mentioned Linux.)
It's common economic theory that the public always chooses the best product. Right now, I guess the product that satisfies most people and their needs is Microsoft Windows. Why should they change to anything else? It's my personal belief that once the silly program names are done away with (vi, emacs, kate grep anyone?), people MIGHT start coming to Linux.
But anyways, back to Xbox.
I do not see much of a difference between HDTV and regular TV. My neighbors have a wide screen HDTV, and I (and others) can't tell the difference between Project Gotham Racing 2 (Just a random game) on their TV and a normal one.
As far as it being the "Future of Gaming", of course it will be! Televisions are heading toward HD at an increasing pace, it'd be ludacris to not support it. It would be like computer game makers deciding to stay in black and white even though computers are capable of doing colors.
Sure they are going to use it as a hook. They are simply trying to stay in the console business. It's business really. Simple as that.
Recent events have showed us that we MUST cause a regime change for the Solarians. No longer must they live under the titanical rule of Sunddam Hydrogen.
This evil dictator has created weapons of mass destruction, and has used them against nearby planets. A few years ago, we had them open their weapon factories to us so we could be sure they destroyed them all. But it has now come to our attention that they have weapons that could destroy the entire world.
We can NOT stand by and let them do this. We must unite and attack them before they can destroy us. Anyone who is not with us, is with them. There is no other choice.
Slashdot Mirror
Yes, I suppose that it would be better to switch announces with states, but the effect still is the same.
They have acknowledged the other sides point of view, and even used some of it. Slashdot often cries that Microsoft doesn't look at the open source crowd's point of view, but they can be the same exact way when the positions are reversed. (And for you nitpickers out there, the keyword is 'can'.) Microsoft is a business, a relatively new one at that. If a new business has a way to keep the money flowing, then they will do it!
Have you noticed that they are becoming more 'open' lately, whether it be in ideas or practice? They already have the market share, they already have a remarkable stream of money coming in, and it will be that way for a long time. So, with money taken care of, they can become more open and reap in the benefits of that. News sources will carry the story and they will be seen as heroes of the people. The attitude toward Microsoft by geeks will also soften (not by much, but still...).
Nobody cries that Coca-Cola won't release it's 'Secret Recipe,' yet in principle, it's the same thing.
"So when will PC get more good games, and not these PS2 or Xbox shill games?"
Probably once developers want to make their games work on a variety of hardware combinations rather than just making it work on one or two specific combinations.
Microsoft announces that they are going to do something that Slashdot has wanted them to do for ages, and Slashdot proceeds to find faults with it?
You can't have everything perfect. They are doing a Good Thing, yet they still get ripped to shreads.
It's like saying that it's bad for Bill Gates to 'only' give a few millions to charities. So what if it isn't a lot of his money, he's still giving out millions.
Atleast they are opening up somethings and being considerate (whether for selfish or non-selfish reasons doesn't matter) to other companies.
But of course they are Microsoft, thus are Totally Evil and even if they found and released free of charge and free of any restrictions, the cure to cancer, formulated a reliable plan to end world hunger, AND found a way for geeks to get laid, they would still be seen as Totally Evil.
Heck, Slashdot would probably say that their plan didn't solve world hunger fast enough.
Since when did Apple gain exclusive rights to white? Ohmygod! The PS2 and Xbox both are black! They are ripping off ENIAC!
Hmm...I do seem to remember something about Michael Jackson being the best in pop at one time.
Ever hear of savescumming or Wizard mode?
He does bring up a valid point though (although largely inadvertantly): Not ALL deaths are reasonably avoidable.
Just as an example, in my most recent Nethack game, I stepped on a squeeky board, then opened the door to a large zoo (the board was by accident, I didn't know it was there). As a wizard, I had to use my magick to try and win. However, I soon ran out of magick power and began running for the stairs. Running thru a room to the stairs, I fell down a trap door. Landed in a room that had a White Unicorn and about 5 soldier ants. And I had no magick power left.
I'll spare the rest of the story.
Could I have avoided it? Not unless I knew where the squeeky trap was.
Was I angry? Of course.
Was it fair? Not really.
A large problem with Permadeaths is that no one knows what to do with accidental deaths. What if you were walking along a path in your favorite MMORPG, and a Giant who is being attacked by a group of adventureres throws a rock, misses them and hits you, instantly killing you. Are you expected to shrug it off, and start a new character?
Games are meant to be a release from reality. We only have one chance to live in real life, so why should we only have one in our virtual lives?
What part of "Norway" is so hard to understand?
Did they bring Falcon's Eye back?
I remember using Knoppix for a while, then I downloaded a new version of it (after somehow losing the older one) and saw it had no nethack-type game...I was using Windows a lot more after that.
All the robots are too busy having sex to worry about taking over the world.
Think about it: If given the chance to finally start getting laid or take over the world, which would You choose?
Poor Bram, a direct link to a torrent is posted to the front page of Slashdot right after a new version of BitTorrent is released.
No, for some geeks there is no chance of being screwed.
On the other hand if you meant assimilated...
Hate to reply to my own post, but sorry for not formatting.
Straight from the horses mouth... http://www.news.wisc.edu/10833.html I saw that a few days ago during the Nanotechnology article; I never thought of submitting it.
Becuase you already have a thumbdrive?
Well, at my school (as with one of the above poster's), only IE is used on the computers (Even the Macs!), so it is nice to have Portable Firefox on your thumb drive. In fact, that was the main reason I brought mine to school, until I could persuade the computer teacher to let me have a computer that doesn't wipe it's hard drive everytime it is rebooted.
Sounds like someone was turned down as a date recently.
Well, once the Panthers start to detect anthrax, then we can start caring about them :).
Well what is stopping them from changing to Linux then? They have a choice of operating systems to use. They just choose to keep Windows.
Nitpicker.
EDIT FOR MY POST:
-"Project Gotham Racing 2" +(some game that is HDTV enabled)
It was a random example. I could've used Morrowind, Halo 2, Mercenaries, Amped 2, but decided to use PGR 2. But I suppose that would be why I didn't see a difference, heh.
(Slightly offtopic)
"It's getting to a point where it's hard to charge money for an operating system or an office suite..."
I don't know about that one. Microsoft is doing pretty well from what I've heard. The typical person has this kind of attitude to operating systems:
Microsoft Windows: "Hey! A new version! I better go out and get it right away!"
Apple: "Don't they make the iPod? Too bad they are too elite for me."
Linux: "Isn't that some kind of seed?" (I wish I was joking, someone actually said that when I mentioned Linux.)
It's common economic theory that the public always chooses the best product. Right now, I guess the product that satisfies most people and their needs is Microsoft Windows. Why should they change to anything else? It's my personal belief that once the silly program names are done away with (vi, emacs, kate grep anyone?), people MIGHT start coming to Linux.
But anyways, back to Xbox.
I do not see much of a difference between HDTV and regular TV. My neighbors have a wide screen HDTV, and I (and others) can't tell the difference between Project Gotham Racing 2 (Just a random game) on their TV and a normal one.
As far as it being the "Future of Gaming", of course it will be! Televisions are heading toward HD at an increasing pace, it'd be ludacris to not support it. It would be like computer game makers deciding to stay in black and white even though computers are capable of doing colors.
Sure they are going to use it as a hook. They are simply trying to stay in the console business. It's business really. Simple as that.
You...you mean we would go to war for reasons other than helping humans out?
BLASPHEMY!
Recent events have showed us that we MUST cause a regime change for the Solarians. No longer must they live under the titanical rule of Sunddam Hydrogen.
This evil dictator has created weapons of mass destruction, and has used them against nearby planets. A few years ago, we had them open their weapon factories to us so we could be sure they destroyed them all. But it has now come to our attention that they have weapons that could destroy the entire world.
We can NOT stand by and let them do this. We must unite and attack them before they can destroy us. Anyone who is not with us, is with them. There is no other choice.
The Earth must attack Sol.
You know, I was going to say something witty along the lines of:
Like this?
But then I found out that it is due to be released in early summer...of 2004.
Way to go webmaster!
Yeah, who cares about Morrowind and Fable!