If you haven't read the bible yet, check out what Jesus said and did. After you've studied Jesus, you'll know he was God. Once you know Jesus is Lord, then its easier to accept that God created Earth. People who want to tear apart the faith start with things you need to take on faith, they don't start with the things that are at the core values.
Asheron's Call was way fun back in 99. I especially liked the action element where you could jump out of the way of high damage spells and arrows. If a MMORPG capitalized on action, and made it so you had a wide variety of actions and counters you could do depending on the spell/ability flying your way, it'd be king for a long time.
I forecast 10 million+ subscribers once MMOGS become truly fun. Blizzard is notorious for storylines and wanting to make comic and culture for their Warcraft series. No doubt with the extra cash they'll be able to guide their MMOG to be more in depth.
The day they bring an action orient game like Zelda or Tekken into a massive world filled with a good progression, that will be the day all the other MMOGs fail. People like to meet and adventure with friends in fantasy worlds, they're not going to drop that.
Its like the atari 2600 debacle. People thought atari was the end of a fad. Its the SAME EXACT THING. MMORPGS imho suck. I wanted to write one in the early 90s, for a lot of reasons. Most of the cool things I envision in MMORPGS haven't been done yet. Try forcing yourself to play the atari 2600 when you know nintendo is coming over the horizon. Its friggin tough man, makes you almost want to program games yourself, and thats a whole lot of work.
I couldn't wait for better video games, I knew they had a long way ahead of them. JUST LIKE NOW MMOG haven't hit fast paced action yet. This statistic war MMOPRGS is dull. Once a game come out that blends action with RPG, it will rule supreme like nintendo 8 bit did over atari2600, its the same gap.
That said, the next big thing after that will be video cameras tracking your motions. Buy a camera array and set it up in your home(or arcade), hold a lightsabre, wear vr goggles, and dodge/move/slash enemies. Its not as far off as you think. I have it slated on my todo list after my action MMOG due out in 15 years:P
Hey anyone know where I can have free filehosting? I have a 10 meg file which is a demo of my game, but I have no place to share it. My game isn't fun yet, but it demonstrates Tekken meets MMOG.
Highlander mode. One big freaking free for all, where people are located around a globe with all sorts of resources to be had. Everyone builds up, but when people get eliminated they need to wait for a new game to start up. Being eliminated and respawning would be hard to do in something like this.
"It's difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive earth men or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the ants will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves."
The only reason I'd play WOW would be for hope for the future. There's nothing in it that differentiates it from other MMORPGS. I guess some people can still stand levelfests.
"How? God speaking to you is not sufficient proof, hundreds of people suffer from delusions of people existing and talking to them without ever existing. Rather than discuss this in depth I'll just tell you to go see "A Beautiful Mind"."
Yes, God speaking to me is sufficient proof. He said,"Good News". I won't embellish what exactly happened(but it was pretty cool), then I recieve a Good News bible the same day.
Are you suggesting that I do not have a right or I am too stupid to decide on my own that I do not want salvation through your methods. The arrogance of you and your religion is staggering and offensive. You presume that you are right and that all others are wrong and that the only way to happiness is through your life choices. This attitude is disgusting, intolerant and hate filled.
Hey I'm not the one saying this, God is. Jesus is the only way to heaven. The bible says you can feel free to analyze all the world's belief systems to see for yourself.
"The Smithsonian museum of Natural history has dinosaurs and talks about the world's age in billions of years. Maybe the world is only 6000 years old made to look billions "
This argument is perhaps the most cowardly and ignorant stance someone could take. First off it lacks any credibility. Its sole purpose is to stop meaningful discussion because you have been argued into a corner and have no way to further argue your position. The only reason for this argument is to stifle discussion and take a stance that CANNOT be proven/disproven.
Thats's exactly it man! You're on a roll. The bible cannot be disproven by science. Mortal man doesn't know the specifics of how God created the universe, so he can't take a stance for:
A)The young earth, that appears old. God could have made the stars and the light trails at the same time.
or
B)An old earth, where God's days aren't 24 hours long, but billions of years. Who's to tell how long a day is when the sun isn't even in existance?
"We cannot allow such foolish and faulty reasoning to be presented as reasonable because you devalue thought and discussion when you peddle this filth."
The bible isn't saying,"God made the universe. The end. Believe." The bible has a lot of core ideas on the nature of human beings. The bible has prophecy(something no other religion has). The bible has Jesus's teachings on life. You're supposed to take what makes sense, and build a faith. Then you can go back and accept that God did create the universe. If you want to attack the faith,try and argue against things like its better to love people than worldly possessions.
"Or perhaps instead of a gun, you offer starving people food to convert to Christianity"
You don't see a differnece between shooting someone, or helping someone? Christianity says to love your fellow Christian brother and help him out. By offering food and a better life, people can see there are others who want to help them: Christians, and maybe they'd want to be a part of that group.
" or instead of Jihad you launch a Crusade and lock Jews in synagogues and then light it on fire. Yeah that sounds real different."
I like people harp on the Crusades to say something negative about the Christians. I personally don't defend the crusades. There will always be members of a group who do things that the group doesn't agree with and bring down a bad image on it. Look at these Christians here, trying to ban some science films. They're bringing down a bad image on the whole of Christians.
Many people think translators changed the bible's wordings to make prophecies work. This means they had to be sneaky so other scholars didn't see their changes, but there are thousands of prophecies that came true. And there are many poetic prophecies, and hidden prophesies. There's no way translators could have pulled it off, let alone their own eternal consequences if they believed in the word they transcribed.
If it really is the word of God, then the Dead Sea Scrolls must also be the word of God (the original Hebrew and Aramaic texts were written down by the same group of scribes), so why is it that some of God's words are deemed fit to go in the bible and some not?
From what I heard there's a ton of books left out of the bible. They determined at some point which books were core to the faith and put them together as the bible. I think this was mostly for the sake of convience in copying the work, and carrying it around in one book.
theres plenty of wars that have been started by christians for religious reasons where they felt they had "god on their side". the crusades for one.
Thats true. And like the Christians in this article, their methods for spreading Christianity are dubious. They possibly damage the faith's image more than spread Christianity! Just read some of the posts in this thread, its pretty critical of the faith, just because of some individuals!
again, not really suprising to see badly educated americans with a shaky grip of history pontificating about the world on slashdot.
I have a degree from CMU, and have forecasted many of the advanced P2P protocols being used on the net, in addition to true artificial intelligence. www.jimsager.com I wouldn't say I'm poorly educated.
But if you have further questions about Christianity, feel free to ask. I think the base of your argument, and many here is that if you see some people of a group acting badly, you then use that as a basis for judging the whole group. Like if you took black rappers as a guide to judge all black people, you would probably think bad of their race. Same holds true for some fringe Christians.
When someone knows Jesus, they know their eternal salvation is secure by leading a life that Jesus was an example for. We can't be sinless, but we're supposed to try and cut evil out of our life. So a person who knows he has eternity to learn about the world after he dies isn't always concerned with science on this life, instead they focus on helping everyone achieve heaven. Some of these people naturally become misguided because they love their fellow man so much, they don't want to see them go to hell. Its not they're bad people, its that they think science conflicts with religion. They just haven't had enough education in life to understand science, and some don't care because there's a lot mortals won't know in this lifetime. The main thing they don't understand is that 'science doesn't conflict with religion', in fact the more science you have under your belt, the more you tend to realize there had to be a God to create everything so beautifully. Just like one man can appreciate the beauty of a flower and think there had to be a God to create it, there's beauty and eloquence in science too.
God gave us us free will. God wants us to love him. Why would he want people to Jihad for him? Any religion with a Jihad can't claim its God is of love for this reason: How can you tell if someone's truly worshiping from their heart? You hold a gun to someone's head and tell him to bow to Allah. Did you suddenly get a convert to your religion? Or did you just force someone against their will to do something that doesn't even resemble worship other than in externalities? Now what if you're not holding a gun to someone's head, but instead put people under an umbrella of fear of guns. Everyone under that umbrella looks like they're great worshipers, bowing to Mecca, and chanting. Maybe some of those worshipers are for real, but I bet most do it just because their neighbor does it, and do it for show to fit in with society. Its just like totalitarian governments.
"Why do you believe in the Bible? Because it is the word of God? Why do you believe *that*? Because your minister told you so? That isn't intelligence. That's dogma."
Why do *I* believe in the Bible?
Because God spoke to me,"Good News"
Then I recieved a Good News bible that same day, never hearing about this translation before.
As I posted below, some religious people want to discredit science, but end up discrediting religion from the ways they go about it.
I know 100% that God exists. Do I know if evolution exists: maybe. If it does exist, it still doesn't disprove the bible.
Science and Religion shouldn't be at odds. This isn't cool. I wonder if some religious people realize they turn more people away from the faith with such acts than they shield. Its really a major issue when you're trying to help with your fellow man's eternal salvation! So I can understand why people try everything they can... It'd be better if people knew which battles to pick. I'm not even saying I know which battles are right, but I'm trying my best.
I feel a great responsibility toward God since he spoke to me. I can't see defending people who seek to ban some science films at IMAX. I think that if you really wanted to rock the scientific community, more research should be done on the flood over the geologic column. The Smithsonian museum of Natural history has dinosaurs and talks about the world's age in billions of years. Maybe the world is only 6000 years old made to look billions, or maybe the earth is billions of years old. I can't tell you, I'm only mortal, but I do know God exists 100%
I guess what I'm saying is that religious advocates maybe should be using science to debunk science. If you bring religion in to discredit science, you may be wrong(see Galileo) and instead apparently be discrediting religion.
That was my favorite RPG of all time. But Mail Order Monsters was sorta fun too, same with racing destruction set.
I have it in my portfolio, but if you could do a real-physics race game, and allow users to create their own tracks with splines for loops/cylinders/elevation, then kick it on the net with rankings for tracks, you'd have a game that'd own super awesomely.
The key is that the game has to be good. I haven't been impressed with a game since Asheron's Call in 99, and Starcraft earlier. I'm playing Halo2 now.
GTA was an awesome series, but I'm past my senseless destruction days.
I think video games are awesome, but there's so much innovation that needs to be done. The price tag isn't something that prevents me from buying. What prevents me from buying is that I don't want to waste my time playing something that's not fun. Bring on the big price tags if thats what you need to make something fun.
"And lastly: if the business is so lucrative, why haven't any of the companies themselves decided to sell "special" accounts to people and cash in on the money?"
AO and DAOC employed a gold seller, making $100,000/month over a few months.
Everyone would be banned if they tried to sell something, but this guy with 3 pages of gold for every seller never got banned.
Asheron's Call was popular in that it had a generic action aspect where you could dodge and move. But it stopped there. If someone made a MMOG that had action oriented hack and slash fights with some semblance of balance and counters for PVP, it would rule above all.
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If you haven't read the bible yet, check out what Jesus said and did. After you've studied Jesus, you'll know he was God. Once you know Jesus is Lord, then its easier to accept that God created Earth. People who want to tear apart the faith start with things you need to take on faith, they don't start with the things that are at the core values.
Asheron's Call was way fun back in 99. I especially liked the action element where you could jump out of the way of high damage spells and arrows. If a MMORPG capitalized on action, and made it so you had a wide variety of actions and counters you could do depending on the spell/ability flying your way, it'd be king for a long time.
"Today I have witnessed some colleagues playing a wireless racing game with imported ones in the office."
Sometimes you import your colleagues?
I forecast 10 million+ subscribers once MMOGS become truly fun. Blizzard is notorious for storylines and wanting to make comic and culture for their Warcraft series. No doubt with the extra cash they'll be able to guide their MMOG to be more in depth.
The day they bring an action orient game like Zelda or Tekken into a massive world filled with a good progression, that will be the day all the other MMOGs fail. People like to meet and adventure with friends in fantasy worlds, they're not going to drop that.
Its like the atari 2600 debacle. People thought atari was the end of a fad. Its the SAME EXACT THING. MMORPGS imho suck. I wanted to write one in the early 90s, for a lot of reasons. Most of the cool things I envision in MMORPGS haven't been done yet. Try forcing yourself to play the atari 2600 when you know nintendo is coming over the horizon. Its friggin tough man, makes you almost want to program games yourself, and thats a whole lot of work.
I couldn't wait for better video games, I knew they had a long way ahead of them. JUST LIKE NOW MMOG haven't hit fast paced action yet. This statistic war MMOPRGS is dull. Once a game come out that blends action with RPG, it will rule supreme like nintendo 8 bit did over atari2600, its the same gap.
:P
That said, the next big thing after that will be video cameras tracking your motions. Buy a camera array and set it up in your home(or arcade), hold a lightsabre, wear vr goggles, and dodge/move/slash enemies. Its not as far off as you think. I have it slated on my todo list after my action MMOG due out in 15 years
Hey anyone know where I can have free filehosting? I have a 10 meg file which is a demo of my game, but I have no place to share it. My game isn't fun yet, but it demonstrates Tekken meets MMOG.
Highlander mode. One big freaking free for all, where people are located around a globe with all sorts of resources to be had. Everyone builds up, but when people get eliminated they need to wait for a new game to start up. Being eliminated and respawning would be hard to do in something like this.
"It's difficult to tell from this vantage point whether they will consume the captive earth men or merely enslave them. One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the ants will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new insect overlords. I'd like to remind them that as a trusted TV personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves."
Demeaning towards women, cursing, drugs, and racial profiling blacks.
It won't let me register a new account. When I clicked on support, it also gave me a "The page cannot be displayed" error.
I think their webserver is being pummeled, or they got hacked
The only reason I'd play WOW would be for hope for the future. There's nothing in it that differentiates it from other MMORPGS. I guess some people can still stand levelfests.
There should be some end game tasks beyond PVP.
"How? God speaking to you is not sufficient proof, hundreds of people suffer from delusions of people existing and talking to them without ever existing. Rather than discuss this in depth I'll just tell you to go see "A Beautiful Mind"."
Yes, God speaking to me is sufficient proof. He said,"Good News". I won't embellish what exactly happened(but it was pretty cool), then I recieve a Good News bible the same day.
Are you suggesting that I do not have a right or I am too stupid to decide on my own that I do not want salvation through your methods. The arrogance of you and your religion is staggering and offensive. You presume that you are right and that all others are wrong and that the only way to happiness is through your life choices. This attitude is disgusting, intolerant and hate filled.
Hey I'm not the one saying this, God is. Jesus is the only way to heaven. The bible says you can feel free to analyze all the world's belief systems to see for yourself.
"The Smithsonian museum of Natural history has dinosaurs and talks about the world's age in billions of years. Maybe the world is only 6000 years old made to look billions " This argument is perhaps the most cowardly and ignorant stance someone could take. First off it lacks any credibility. Its sole purpose is to stop meaningful discussion because you have been argued into a corner and have no way to further argue your position. The only reason for this argument is to stifle discussion and take a stance that CANNOT be proven/disproven.
Thats's exactly it man! You're on a roll. The bible cannot be disproven by science. Mortal man doesn't know the specifics of how God created the universe, so he can't take a stance for:
A)The young earth, that appears old. God could have made the stars and the light trails at the same time.
or
B)An old earth, where God's days aren't 24 hours long, but billions of years. Who's to tell how long a day is when the sun isn't even in existance?
"We cannot allow such foolish and faulty reasoning to be presented as reasonable because you devalue thought and discussion when you peddle this filth." The bible isn't saying,"God made the universe. The end. Believe." The bible has a lot of core ideas on the nature of human beings. The bible has prophecy(something no other religion has). The bible has Jesus's teachings on life. You're supposed to take what makes sense, and build a faith. Then you can go back and accept that God did create the universe. If you want to attack the faith,try and argue against things like its better to love people than worldly possessions.
"Or perhaps instead of a gun, you offer starving people food to convert to Christianity"
You don't see a differnece between shooting someone, or helping someone? Christianity says to love your fellow Christian brother and help him out. By offering food and a better life, people can see there are others who want to help them: Christians, and maybe they'd want to be a part of that group. " or instead of Jihad you launch a Crusade and lock Jews in synagogues and then light it on fire. Yeah that sounds real different." I like people harp on the Crusades to say something negative about the Christians. I personally don't defend the crusades. There will always be members of a group who do things that the group doesn't agree with and bring down a bad image on it. Look at these Christians here, trying to ban some science films. They're bringing down a bad image on the whole of Christians.
Many people think translators changed the bible's wordings to make prophecies work. This means they had to be sneaky so other scholars didn't see their changes, but there are thousands of prophecies that came true. And there are many poetic prophecies, and hidden prophesies. There's no way translators could have pulled it off, let alone their own eternal consequences if they believed in the word they transcribed.
If it really is the word of God, then the Dead Sea Scrolls must also be the word of God (the original Hebrew and Aramaic texts were written down by the same group of scribes), so why is it that some of God's words are deemed fit to go in the bible and some not? From what I heard there's a ton of books left out of the bible. They determined at some point which books were core to the faith and put them together as the bible. I think this was mostly for the sake of convience in copying the work, and carrying it around in one book.
theres plenty of wars that have been started by christians for religious reasons where they felt they had "god on their side". the crusades for one.
Thats true. And like the Christians in this article, their methods for spreading Christianity are dubious. They possibly damage the faith's image more than spread Christianity! Just read some of the posts in this thread, its pretty critical of the faith, just because of some individuals!
again, not really suprising to see badly educated americans with a shaky grip of history pontificating about the world on slashdot.
I have a degree from CMU, and have forecasted many of the advanced P2P protocols being used on the net, in addition to true artificial intelligence. www.jimsager.com I wouldn't say I'm poorly educated.
But if you have further questions about Christianity, feel free to ask. I think the base of your argument, and many here is that if you see some people of a group acting badly, you then use that as a basis for judging the whole group. Like if you took black rappers as a guide to judge all black people, you would probably think bad of their race. Same holds true for some fringe Christians.
When someone knows Jesus, they know their eternal salvation is secure by leading a life that Jesus was an example for. We can't be sinless, but we're supposed to try and cut evil out of our life. So a person who knows he has eternity to learn about the world after he dies isn't always concerned with science on this life, instead they focus on helping everyone achieve heaven. Some of these people naturally become misguided because they love their fellow man so much, they don't want to see them go to hell. Its not they're bad people, its that they think science conflicts with religion. They just haven't had enough education in life to understand science, and some don't care because there's a lot mortals won't know in this lifetime. The main thing they don't understand is that 'science doesn't conflict with religion', in fact the more science you have under your belt, the more you tend to realize there had to be a God to create everything so beautifully. Just like one man can appreciate the beauty of a flower and think there had to be a God to create it, there's beauty and eloquence in science too.
God gave us us free will. God wants us to love him. Why would he want people to Jihad for him? Any religion with a Jihad can't claim its God is of love for this reason: How can you tell if someone's truly worshiping from their heart? You hold a gun to someone's head and tell him to bow to Allah. Did you suddenly get a convert to your religion? Or did you just force someone against their will to do something that doesn't even resemble worship other than in externalities? Now what if you're not holding a gun to someone's head, but instead put people under an umbrella of fear of guns. Everyone under that umbrella looks like they're great worshipers, bowing to Mecca, and chanting. Maybe some of those worshipers are for real, but I bet most do it just because their neighbor does it, and do it for show to fit in with society. Its just like totalitarian governments.
"Why do you believe in the Bible? Because it is the word of God? Why do you believe *that*? Because your minister told you so? That isn't intelligence. That's dogma."
Why do *I* believe in the Bible?
Because God spoke to me,"Good News"
Then I recieved a Good News bible that same day, never hearing about this translation before.
As I posted below, some religious people want to discredit science, but end up discrediting religion from the ways they go about it.
I know 100% that God exists. Do I know if evolution exists: maybe. If it does exist, it still doesn't disprove the bible. Science and Religion shouldn't be at odds. This isn't cool. I wonder if some religious people realize they turn more people away from the faith with such acts than they shield. Its really a major issue when you're trying to help with your fellow man's eternal salvation! So I can understand why people try everything they can... It'd be better if people knew which battles to pick. I'm not even saying I know which battles are right, but I'm trying my best. I feel a great responsibility toward God since he spoke to me. I can't see defending people who seek to ban some science films at IMAX. I think that if you really wanted to rock the scientific community, more research should be done on the flood over the geologic column. The Smithsonian museum of Natural history has dinosaurs and talks about the world's age in billions of years. Maybe the world is only 6000 years old made to look billions, or maybe the earth is billions of years old. I can't tell you, I'm only mortal, but I do know God exists 100% I guess what I'm saying is that religious advocates maybe should be using science to debunk science. If you bring religion in to discredit science, you may be wrong(see Galileo) and instead apparently be discrediting religion.
I think we have our answer to one of science's 13 unresolved questions.
That was my favorite RPG of all time. But Mail Order Monsters was sorta fun too, same with racing destruction set.
I have it in my portfolio, but if you could do a real-physics race game, and allow users to create their own tracks with splines for loops/cylinders/elevation, then kick it on the net with rankings for tracks, you'd have a game that'd own super awesomely.
If I'm 17, and want to play the next FPS, I'll download it off the internet instead. Warez 4 Pirates.
The key is that the game has to be good. I haven't been impressed with a game since Asheron's Call in 99, and Starcraft earlier. I'm playing Halo2 now.
GTA was an awesome series, but I'm past my senseless destruction days.
I think video games are awesome, but there's so much innovation that needs to be done. The price tag isn't something that prevents me from buying. What prevents me from buying is that I don't want to waste my time playing something that's not fun. Bring on the big price tags if thats what you need to make something fun.
How do you get an Ngage SDK. I may be interested in making games for it. Nothing like good ol 2d for something easy to code.
This imagery to 3d is a primary component to artificial intelligence
Also if you could video tape a building and port it to 3d, you could make some quick FPS levels.
"And lastly: if the business is so lucrative, why haven't any of the companies themselves decided to sell "special" accounts to people and cash in on the money?"
AO and DAOC employed a gold seller, making $100,000/month over a few months.
Everyone would be banned if they tried to sell something, but this guy with 3 pages of gold for every seller never got banned.
Asheron's Call was popular in that it had a generic action aspect where you could dodge and move. But it stopped there. If someone made a MMOG that had action oriented hack and slash fights with some semblance of balance and counters for PVP, it would rule above all.