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Dungeons and Dragons Online Alpha Registration
Evil Avatar (and everyone else) picked up on the registration announcement for the Dungeons and Dragons Online Alpha phase of testing. From the article: "The world of Eberron awaits your arrival, as you embark on the great adventures that Dungeons & Dragons is known for. Register through the members only area today -- and prepare to master this unique new online campaign world!" If any Turbine folks are reading Slash today, I'd just like to mention how much I like your logo. :)
Well, after years and years of text and graphics online games that copied or were inspired by D&D, D&D finally felt it was time to do their own....
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
I don't think their logo is anything special. It looks more like an orange cut in half than...oh, you're trying to suck up to them in order to get into the alpha. Never mind. Good luck with that.
Not that I have been following the games development much but I would have expected forgotten realms as the setting, Eberron is a pretty cool setting with a nice mix of magic and science.
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I am too busy mastering the dungeons of doom.
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bring back Basic D&D. 3rd ed with the d20 system is complete toss. you may as well be playing Rolemaster.
Too many rules and garbage to get in the way. they've made it more difficult to actually ROLEPLAY. no wonder the munchkins have taken over.
I have no high hopes for a MMOG.
The reason girls and Windows users don't understand UNIX is because all the documentation is in Man files.
*coughNeverwinterNightscough*
(never mind the countless other single player D&D games)
I hope the low number of reponses mean not many people have bothered to sign up... better chances for me to get picked!
You might want to get that looked at. And please, clean that phlegm off of the screen, you are blocking my view.
"Please Note: At this time, Alpha signup is reserved for registered DDO forum members only. Non-forum members who attempt to sign up during this exclusive signup period will be disqualified from participating in the Alpha."
Can I attack the darkness?
They have two of the most coveted titles for upcoming MMORPGs and yet the level of excitement on various message boards is next to nothing.
They currently manage two of the least popular MMORPGs out there, AC1 and AC2. Both of which are going to offer expansions in the coming months.
The problem Turbine faces is that a good number of the current MMORPG crowd associate them with cheating and exploiting all because of their idiot choice of condoning AUTOMATED (but attended) combat macros (bots) in AC1. Combined with the fact that once they let the cat out of the bag people were no longer in the lore of their game and only in gaining experience. It has to be pretty sad when your GMs have to randomly check obvious bots to make sure someone is actually at the screen when they should have been actively preventing the occurence of automation in the first place.
Turbine had a great many good ideas but they squandered it pandering to their worst fans. They allowed one abuse after another and then to top it off hired some of the same people who wrote some of the automating applications.
The big question for Turbine is, can they get enough new to the genre players into D&D to start to change their reputation? How much will their current reputation hinder acceptance of these two new games. Last, is there any real anticipation for this game anymore?
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The owners of D&D have been licensing their material - both the rulesets and the game worlds - for ages. Most people have heard of Pool of Radiance (1987), Eye of the Beholder (1991) and Baldurs Gate (1999), but they are by no means the only ones - over 20 computer games based on D&D have been released.
That does not count all the ones like "HACK", most of the MUDs, MOOS, and many many others which owe a lot to D&D.
Don't blame Durga. I voted for Centauri.
I searched the ddo.com web site, and I just can't find any info on this.
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For a long time, battle.net was known for it's bugs and hacks. With Diablo I there was a bug where you could dupe anything by dropping it in a certain manner, god mode, invisibility mode. It kept me from buying Diablo II or playing D I online. It hasn't stopped me from trying WoW though.
As far as Turbine is concerned, they've had to live with Microsoft's legacy and AC2 was simply a pitiful flop. Sequels really don't make sense in MMORPGs. While you might draw in some new players, if the new game is perceived to be better than the old one, you'll just rape the user base from your existing game. Nothing like spending millions of dollars developing a new game only to have the same players. (and more support costs)
And the exploiting in AC is blown out of proportion. The difference in combat macros between AC and WoW: Blizzard supplied an approved method of hacking their UI.
It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit. -- Harry Truman
You are for the most part correct, with one minor discrepancy.
Turbine was the developer and Microsoft was the publisher. Microsoft provided the servers, Microsoft provided the bandwidth, Microsoft provided the in-game and out-of-game technical support. Microsoft handled the billing. Microsoft provided the login servers (via Passport - Ick!).
The people at Turbine have on numerous occassions stated that they wanted to put an end to most of the 'cheating' and 'hacking', even going so far as to writing the code to do so, only to be told "No" by Microsoft. Microsoft did not want to piss off it's customers (as hard as that is to believe) and Microsoft basically ran Asheron's Call into the ground until they didn't see any future profits.
At that point the gang at Turbine bought back the rights to the AC franchise, bought the servers and moved them to their own location, transitioned the billing away from Microsoft and put all new rules and code in place to put a stop to the 'cheating' and 'hacking'.
Bottom line: Turbine does not approve of any cheating or hacking and it's really unfair to them that their first big game got such a bad reputation for them.
I have started and stopped playing Asheron's Call (not AC2!) at least 3 times to play other MMORPGs and will probably start again on time #4 when the new expansion pack is released in May. I get lured away by flashy, newer games, but I keep coming back to it. It has the best, most detailed and most player-involved background and history of any on-line game world I've ever played (and believe me, I've played *all* the popular MMORPGs).
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They just changed what they consider cheating.
To them an ATTENDED automated combat bot is not cheating. To the rest of the MMORPG genre that view doesn't even pass the laugh test.
I also laugh at anyone who blames Microsoft for all of AC's woes. Microsoft wasn't the reason for the consistently buggy patches that required hotfixes. Some of the biggest EXPLOITS have occured since Turbine took total control. One of the biggest and most glaring dealt with working the system for experience by using trade skills that the player had no intention to use on the character except to buy and sell back for the experience gain. A bug with one trade that resulted in a big profit because of an error on their side was left in a month even after most knew of it. That led to many many "bots" just making money.
Turbine condones cheating and exploiting. They simply choose to use a different definition of what cheating and exploiting is.
Any MMORPG developer who allows players to use third party software to play their character(s); some run 4-5 bots at a time; is in no way concerned with cheating let alone providing a good gaming experience.
To top it off they are releasing an expansion which caters to this style of play by having methods to exchange large amounts of experience, experience values so high that only the macros/bots will readily afford then, for special capabilties in game. The pulled the old level cap off just so these cheaters can brag about who has the highest level macro.
No, Turbine is trash. Jessica became the same piece of shit she railed on in her/his Biting the Hand columns. They have had two years to turn both franchises around and haven't done squat. If anything they are doing less and less. Their server populations confirm that their appeal is failing.
The only game more mismanaged than a Turbine game is Horizons and that one is managed by a former Turbine employee.
Go figure.
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DECAL is a third party software that captures packets coming into the game and provides them to other third party "plug-ins" that then use commands available to the game client to act on them.
What Blizzard offers in no way compares. With Blizzard you can automated very simple tasks but you cannot run combat with them.
The exploiting in AC isn't blown out of proportion. What has been blown is the effect Microsoft had on the franchise. Remember Turbine has had over 2 years to take the game back and yet it is the same old shit if not worse since they did.
* Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
How does combat work in Dungeons & Dragons Online?
We're making a clean break from the "press auto-attack and wait" style of combat that has become so prevalent in today's MMORPGs. Our real-time combat system is designed to be fast and responsive, while still requiring tactical, coordinated decisions from adventuring parties.
Also see this: http://www.ddo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=18648&pos tcount=18
My blooming work system is blocking the site - any word on the system requirements?
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Asheron's Call was way fun back in 99. I especially liked the action element where you could jump out of the way of high damage spells and arrows. If a MMORPG capitalized on action, and made it so you had a wide variety of actions and counters you could do depending on the spell/ability flying your way, it'd be king for a long time.
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...unique new online campaign world
how is it unique? every other mmorpg has expanded the basics of D&D to fit an online persistant world, what can they possibly do now to make themselves "unique" when everyone's already copied their style? force everyone to role-play somehow?
hmm, maybe have a filter that would translate OOG chatter, like the word "car" would become "horse-cart" and "yo whuddup bitch!" would turn into "forsooth yon shrewish maiden!"
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Are D&D 3.x and MMO games (calling them RPG's is like calling Windows secure). And now that they have been combined, everything else in the universe will suck less, according to the First Law of Suckage Dynamics.
See http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/eber ron/864100000, http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/eber ron/864300000, and http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/eber ron/177300000.
But I don't think that's the reason why. Disclaimer before I continue: I've nowhere near as much experience with Dragonlance as I do with the Realms-so some of these factors might not be applicable to Dragonlance.
First off, geography. Doing a FR MMORPG is a huge task, because you have to cover all of Faerun. Which you probably can't. So you have to set borders. WHERE? The Realms does not lend itself to setting borders on the areas you're playing in, and that's fine. The only place you could use without setting arbitrary borders would be the Dalelands, and that has its own problems(hugely detailed, too few cities, no metropolises, too undiverse a monster/enemy population). If you try and take on all of Faerun, you actually run into the same problem-you'd need to set arbitrary boundaries(sure, the Spine of the World's to the north, but how about the Endless Wastes to the east? Those are past the Sunset Mountains, yes, but you could easily get around them by going to the north of Lake Ashane and heading along the Golden Way).
Additionally, any MMORPG has to set itself from its competitors. Ignoring the system/rules options the developers implement, you face the fact that D&D is so old. It's especially apparent in the Realms, which is so old and so influential that a lot of Realms content(which has uniquely Realmsian twists and aspects near-always) has been ripped off and put in other games over the years(minus the uniquely Realmsian aspects and twists, of course). An MMORPG wouldn't preserve those aspects-and as such, it would seem tired and worn out to your average MMORPG player,even with the D&D Online name.
What's Eberron's responses to these?
1. Set it on Xen'Drik. Yeah, it's a continent, but not too large of one-and you can set boundaries wherever you like, it's that undetailed.
2. Be Eberron-infused with new concepts and a slightly different theme from what's out there-seem different from the rest of the pack.
3. (No, you didn't miss a paragraph above) Eberron is new. Eberron is undetailed. As such, Eberron can give the developers the freedom they need to develop their setting as they want to-they don't have to be constrained(see how well SWG did with that)
And of course they gain interest in their new setting-but I don't think that's it.
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D&D 3 and 3.5 are not games in their own right, they're game systems. The rpg aspects come in how the DM runs his game. yes a DM can run a purely combat oriented game, or a very rpg type game. the rules are very flexible in that regard... which of course is part of the reason it's a system not a game.
Is if thay make the NPC to PC ratio at least 10 to 1, going so far as to build entire LIVING citys. Day and night cycle, people going to work and home, farmers in the fields who really do have a home AND a bed. Now with a world build with this much detail you could add a quest system that lets you play a lot better. Basicly I want the more realistic world that you get when playing the pen and paper version.
Yeah, I bet all those MUD/MOO coders are/were laughing at TSR (WotC nowadays) while they rolled around in all the money they made off their work......... wait a minute..