There has been a couple posts about the universe and turtles, is this in reference to a book? I get the Douglas adams posts. But never read anything about turtles.
I use RHEL4 at work, and it's very frustrating to use. In order install a new package you have to go the the redhat website, login to their network search for the rpm, download, search for deps, grab rpm, then deps of deps, etc.. so after a day you finally have the rpms to install. I guess since there are non-free? code in the EL it's not available by normal means outside of your contact agreement.
After about 2-3 hours of using it I truly missed apt-get install foobar.
On a side note, someone did mention yum to me I'm not sure if it's available on RHEL because of the reasons stated above. You can use fedora rpms in it but apparently that can bork the system and for a production machine it's not worth testing.
What if your parents are poor, can't get scholarships, and in-state tuition triples in 3 years, and they force you to live in the dorms freshman year which adds another 8k a semester;)
This is like giving someone a cigarette for free to get them hooked or used to it. Besides students can't drop that much money for software so they're more likely to use openoffice. If MS can get them to use OFfice, they'll eventually get used to it's features and after 4 years be proficient in it. So when they get out of college and hopefully get a decent job they'll needs some kind of office suite. Oh and MS has just released Office 2011, only $700.
Then they'll start thinking, should I pay the $700 and use what I'm used to, or switch for free and have to possibly relearn something.
Silly question perhaps, but how are they able to breath the dust? Aren't they in a contained suit since there is no atmosphere on the moon or is this from dust built up on the suit and inhaled while they're taking the suit off?
man most often cited as the inventor of..
I'm not familiar with the whos and who of mp3, but it was under my impression it was patented hense all these threats of lawsuits.
So who really made it first? The patent holder or if different this guy.
I noticed after converting the d3v is really just a mpeg stream and nothing special. If you look in the install directory it has ffmpeg:)
I ran the converter under wine and you can see the ffmpeg arguments. So you can convert these easily under linux with native ffmpeg.
A friend and I bought one when they first came out in January.
It's a nice device for watching video or listening to music. But the more I look at it, it's not the greatest for homebrew.
There isn't a dldi driver available so you can't access the filesystem. This become a big program for homebrew software.
DSLinux does run on it nicely as does a lot of homebrew software (assuming it doesnt need filesystem access). I just hope Datel would release a dldi driver or open up the specs a bit so someone can write one.
Plus it's nice to be able to walk into a known store and buy something you can sorta do DS development on, instead of ordering online from Hong Kong from a grey area market.
When I was young late 80's I remember seeing a documentary on PBS showing Apes that create basic tools using sticks. I remember once tool they used to pick ants/termites? out of an ant hill.
Interesting... knew that a lot of the NS code was written in ObjC, hense why even now in OS X when coding you still have classes called NSWhatever (NS being NeXtStep which I find nifty).
Just didn't know that NeXtStep was originally in OBj C so thanks for the info:)
The chart in the article has Obj-C listed.. believe it had it listed around 1983 which shocked me. First time I ever heard of it was 2 years ago when I started looking into OS X programming.
Please forgive me this is OT.. but I've seen the phrase PHB for a long time here on/.
What is it? I've been in the comp field for almost 8 years and I've never worked with someone who's title was PHB.
BTW this isn't a troll, I'm being very serious. I've just lost the acronym war.
I think this is a great idea... personally I'd rather settle for a 15 second sound byte while the call is being made (for free) than pay a ton per minute. With VoIP you could make international calls.... so for my friend in Sweden, heck yeah 15 seconds for an hour of talk is worth it. A lot cheaper than the current setup. Let alone smaller calls like within the US, etc...
I don't know, the house I bought wasn't "coded" or built in China or India, the Car I bought wasn't "coded" or built in China or India. The food I buy isn't "coded" or built in China. The telecom service I use. The Entertainment Programs I watch. etc etc etc.
Just a thought, but chances are your house has electronics made in china, steele made in China, your car is more than likely made in Asia (perhaps Assembled in the USA), TV? Japan/Taiwan, Entertainment programs... hrm... who do you think made all of the equipment to produce those shows.
I might be completely off, but I really dont believe anything except maybe food can be called "100% made in the US" anymore.
I Agree completely... not sure what else to say.. but you pulled the words from my mouth.
It's a great deal...
Guess the only thing I could add... is even if you could do something simular.. it would still be 3rd party devices, and with windows not have any idea how solid it would work. With the Mac Mini (even if you consider the upgradability a problem) you have to admit... what comes with it, was designed for it at the OS level, and everything would work rock solid. Can you do that with an equivalent Wintel box? (Even with custom upgrades)
I remeber hearing about this last year on CNN or another major network.
Apparently a farmer next to another field who used one of these seeds had a couple crops come up along side the road on his farm. He was then sued for unlicensed seeds, even though they where grown via natural scatter (wind, birds, etc).
So does this mean farmers are starting to feel the same patent problems of the software industry? IT's funny, while companies have to dig threw all of their code and spend millions making sure they're not "re-inventing/using" something that some random company might have patented... farmers might literally have to walk around their entire farm checking each plant to see if it's not bio-patented.
If anything this gives a great example of how messed up the whole patent system is, if you needed to describe it to someone else.
*drool* hehe... as a chess programmer, utilizing parallel programming I'd love to have just a couple hours on a machine this beefy.
Does this count as a supercomputer? Perhaps not a Cray but still... wow.
I dabbled a bit with GBA programming utilizing the gcc toolchain and libs.
Anyone know if this will be updated to support DS? or if a gcc toolchain is in the works?
>Remember that AMD pays royalties to Intel for every >chip it sells, which pretty much condemns them to >permanent second-place competitor.
When or why would/does AMD have to pay Intel royalties? Is that still in effect or did it end with the AMD64's? I thought x86 in general was an open architecture, hense the tons of IBM-clones that hit the market. Remember reading once, that Intel specifically left x86 open, because the money was in software and not so much in the architecture, but that was 5-10 years ago I might be wrong.
>Sure you can. But if you want to develop a web >application using only a C compiler, you're in for >big learning curve and you'll be writing a whole >bunch of code! You'll have to write your own >webserver and DB for starters. (Well, I guess if you >add ftp to your toolbox you can get apache and >mysql, but something tells me you'll need more than >that to build those systems!)
heh, aye. I didnt really express myself well. I just meant, it seems just 5 or so years ago you could know C and stdio and you could create anything really. Perhaps my problem is that it takes me longer to keep up to date on everything going around, when compared to just doing what needs done with what i already know. There has to be a balance of sorts.
When I first read the topic for the main post, the first thing that popped in mind was "why try to use perl/python/PHP (especially PHP) for a parallelized project. Just do it in C/C++ and use PVM/etc. While something like PVM is still a new layer, that's just 1 layer and not App Server/Language +enhancements for that server and whatever frameworks are needed, etc, etc.
>..."Back in the day" no software could do all of >that!
True, and I agree that you made a good point.
>Another important attribute is knowing how to >select the right tool for the right job... There >are a lot of choices out there so you really have >to do the research and talk to other developers >who have walked the walk...
Also agree, I like both Java/Perl/PHP/ and various languages for their strengths. Though as you mentioned (when looking for the best tool) it does get a bit daunting when you have to go up even more layers of abstraction beyond (what language to use). Picking which language doesn't seem that hard, but when you have 10k's of libraries, packages, frameworks, etc Noone can know them all, that's where the real bloat is in my view.
IT would be nice to have something kinda like CPAN but for all major languags. That way when a new project begins you can benefit by using a framework, but if you can't find it to begin with it's like not seeing the forest for the trees.
Thanks for your reply, this has been a big obstacle for me the past year or so. So I'm trying to figure out how people actually do it. Especially in this rapidlg changing world, where you *do kinda* have to know a lot to be marketable. Anyone can sit down over a couple days or weeks and learn.Net. But to really be marketable it seems you need to know.Net, J2EE, EJB, insert-whatever. Just so much, so little time. *brain overload*
On a more friendly note:)...
On the Rub on Rails website I did see an OS X video walkthrough on how to do the blog. It was pretty nice, and quick. Guess once you learn all of the pieces, it can be quick.
Sounds interesting, but even this represents one reason I'm leaning away from the CS field.
Everything is supposed to be easier now adays, but it just seems like overkill to me. You can't just sit down with a C compiler and pump out a program. You have to learn this app server, then this language (say Java) for use in the server, then you have to learn a myriad of frameworks, then to "make it easier" there's another layer.. guessing something like Rails/Trails/Hibernate/Tapesty/fill-in-the-blank.
Am I alone in thinking that all of this just makes it even harder as a programmer? Seems we no longer have time to learn good coding practices or better algorithm designs. To be marketable anymore you have to dedicate all your time learning the latest and greatest language/app server/framework/whatever. Then it ends up being outdated in 6 months anyway.
Honestly not meant to be a flame, I'm just confused and frustrated.
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There has been a couple posts about the universe and turtles, is this in reference to a book? I get the Douglas adams posts. But never read anything about turtles.
Thanks for the tip I'll let him know and I'll check it out as well.
I use RHEL4 at work, and it's very frustrating to use. In order install a new package you have to go the the redhat website, login to their network search for the rpm, download, search for deps, grab rpm, then deps of deps, etc.. so after a day you finally have the rpms to install. I guess since there are non-free? code in the EL it's not available by normal means outside of your contact agreement. After about 2-3 hours of using it I truly missed apt-get install foobar. On a side note, someone did mention yum to me I'm not sure if it's available on RHEL because of the reasons stated above. You can use fedora rpms in it but apparently that can bork the system and for a production machine it's not worth testing.
What if your parents are poor, can't get scholarships, and in-state tuition triples in 3 years, and they force you to live in the dorms freshman year which adds another 8k a semester ;)
I agree completely, the hard part is who can afford to live on a research income with $50-60k+ in debt from college loans?
This is like giving someone a cigarette for free to get them hooked or used to it. Besides students can't drop that much money for software so they're more likely to use openoffice. If MS can get them to use OFfice, they'll eventually get used to it's features and after 4 years be proficient in it. So when they get out of college and hopefully get a decent job they'll needs some kind of office suite. Oh and MS has just released Office 2011, only $700. Then they'll start thinking, should I pay the $700 and use what I'm used to, or switch for free and have to possibly relearn something.
Silly question perhaps, but how are they able to breath the dust? Aren't they in a contained suit since there is no atmosphere on the moon or is this from dust built up on the suit and inhaled while they're taking the suit off?
man most often cited as the inventor of.. I'm not familiar with the whos and who of mp3, but it was under my impression it was patented hense all these threats of lawsuits. So who really made it first? The patent holder or if different this guy.
I noticed after converting the d3v is really just a mpeg stream and nothing special. If you look in the install directory it has ffmpeg :)
I ran the converter under wine and you can see the ffmpeg arguments. So you can convert these easily under linux with native ffmpeg.
A friend and I bought one when they first came out in January. It's a nice device for watching video or listening to music. But the more I look at it, it's not the greatest for homebrew. There isn't a dldi driver available so you can't access the filesystem. This become a big program for homebrew software. DSLinux does run on it nicely as does a lot of homebrew software (assuming it doesnt need filesystem access). I just hope Datel would release a dldi driver or open up the specs a bit so someone can write one. Plus it's nice to be able to walk into a known store and buy something you can sorta do DS development on, instead of ordering online from Hong Kong from a grey area market.
When I was young late 80's I remember seeing a documentary on PBS showing Apes that create basic tools using sticks. I remember once tool they used to pick ants/termites? out of an ant hill.
Interesting... knew that a lot of the NS code was written in ObjC, hense why even now in OS X when coding you still have classes called NSWhatever (NS being NeXtStep which I find nifty). :)
Just didn't know that NeXtStep was originally in OBj C so thanks for the info
The chart in the article has Obj-C listed.. believe it had it listed around 1983 which shocked me. First time I ever heard of it was 2 years ago when I started looking into OS X programming.
What is it? I've been in the comp field for almost 8 years and I've never worked with someone who's title was PHB.
BTW this isn't a troll, I'm being very serious. I've just lost the acronym war.
I think this is a great idea... personally I'd rather settle for a 15 second sound byte while the call is being made (for free) than pay a ton per minute. With VoIP you could make international calls.... so for my friend in Sweden, heck yeah 15 seconds for an hour of talk is worth it. A lot cheaper than the current setup. Let alone smaller calls like within the US, etc...
Just a thought, but chances are your house has electronics made in china, steele made in China, your car is more than likely made in Asia (perhaps Assembled in the USA), TV? Japan/Taiwan, Entertainment programs... hrm... who do you think made all of the equipment to produce those shows.
I might be completely off, but I really dont believe anything except maybe food can be called "100% made in the US" anymore.
Then again I might be completely wrong.
It's a great deal...
Guess the only thing I could add... is even if you could do something simular.. it would still be 3rd party devices, and with windows not have any idea how solid it would work. With the Mac Mini (even if you consider the upgradability a problem) you have to admit... what comes with it, was designed for it at the OS level, and everything would work rock solid. Can you do that with an equivalent Wintel box? (Even with custom upgrades)
Apparently a farmer next to another field who used one of these seeds had a couple crops come up along side the road on his farm. He was then sued for unlicensed seeds, even though they where grown via natural scatter (wind, birds, etc).
So does this mean farmers are starting to feel the same patent problems of the software industry? IT's funny, while companies have to dig threw all of their code and spend millions making sure they're not "re-inventing/using" something that some random company might have patented... farmers might literally have to walk around their entire farm checking each plant to see if it's not bio-patented.
If anything this gives a great example of how messed up the whole patent system is, if you needed to describe it to someone else.
*drool* hehe... as a chess programmer, utilizing parallel programming I'd love to have just a couple hours on a machine this beefy.
Does this count as a supercomputer? Perhaps not a Cray but still... wow.
Anyone know if this will be updated to support DS? or if a gcc toolchain is in the works?
When or why would/does AMD have to pay Intel royalties? Is that still in effect or did it end with the AMD64's? I thought x86 in general was an open architecture, hense the tons of IBM-clones that hit the market. Remember reading once, that Intel specifically left x86 open, because the money was in software and not so much in the architecture, but that was 5-10 years ago I might be wrong.
Though I would like more info :)
heh, aye. I didnt really express myself well. I just meant, it seems just 5 or so years ago you could know C and stdio and you could create anything really. Perhaps my problem is that it takes me longer to keep up to date on everything going around, when compared to just doing what needs done with what i already know. There has to be a balance of sorts.
When I first read the topic for the main post, the first thing that popped in mind was "why try to use perl/python/PHP (especially PHP) for a parallelized project. Just do it in C/C++ and use PVM/etc. While something like PVM is still a new layer, that's just 1 layer and not App Server/Language +enhancements for that server and whatever frameworks are needed, etc, etc.
>..."Back in the day" no software could do all of >that!
True, and I agree that you made a good point.
>Another important attribute is knowing how to >select the right tool for the right job... There >are a lot of choices out there so you really have >to do the research and talk to other developers >who have walked the walk...
Also agree, I like both Java/Perl/PHP/ and various languages for their strengths. Though as you mentioned (when looking for the best tool) it does get a bit daunting when you have to go up even more layers of abstraction beyond (what language to use). Picking which language doesn't seem that hard, but when you have 10k's of libraries, packages, frameworks, etc Noone can know them all, that's where the real bloat is in my view.
IT would be nice to have something kinda like CPAN but for all major languags. That way when a new project begins you can benefit by using a framework, but if you can't find it to begin with it's like not seeing the forest for the trees.
Thanks for your reply, this has been a big obstacle for me the past year or so. So I'm trying to figure out how people actually do it. Especially in this rapidlg changing world, where you *do kinda* have to know a lot to be marketable. Anyone can sit down over a couple days or weeks and learn .Net. But to really be marketable it seems you need to know .Net, J2EE, EJB, insert-whatever. Just so much, so little time. *brain overload*
Thanks again! :)
On the Rub on Rails website I did see an OS X video walkthrough on how to do the blog. It was pretty nice, and quick. Guess once you learn all of the pieces, it can be quick.
Everything is supposed to be easier now adays, but it just seems like overkill to me. You can't just sit down with a C compiler and pump out a program. You have to learn this app server, then this language (say Java) for use in the server, then you have to learn a myriad of frameworks, then to "make it easier" there's another layer.. guessing something like Rails/Trails/Hibernate/Tapesty/fill-in-the-blank.
Am I alone in thinking that all of this just makes it even harder as a programmer? Seems we no longer have time to learn good coding practices or better algorithm designs. To be marketable anymore you have to dedicate all your time learning the latest and greatest language/app server/framework/whatever. Then it ends up being outdated in 6 months anyway.
Honestly not meant to be a flame, I'm just confused and frustrated.