[shrug] I'm not one who strictly adheres to rules for the sake of it; I only mentioned the who vs. whom portion because I was already writing a comment, and because there was a chance that you actually didn't know. Believe it or not, sometimes when people explain things to you, it's not with the intent to abuse you. Note the complete lack of deprecation in my comment.
Since you're a frequent poster on this site, I'm sure you're aware that there was an equal chance of you being an idiot vs. being someone who was playing a game. Good on ya for playing a game, but don't assume that everyone who calls you on it is a grammar nazi. For instance, I don't give a flying rat's ass that you abused your logical fallacy - it made your point clearly, which is good enough for me. "intensive purposes", on the other hand, doesn't mean anything and therefore doesn't help make your point. So it bugged me.
Since it turns out that you didn't actually have a point other than setting out bait, it's irrelevant.
Sorry, but is there any chance at all that you could fix your sig? It's driving me a little batshit. I realize that doesn't give you any incentive to change it, but I thought I'd give it a shot.
There's no such phrase as "intensive purposes". You meant, "intents and purposes". I don't know if you were going for irony at the end there, but "who cares" is and always has been correct. If you can replace the "who" with a "he", then "who" is correct. If the appropriate replacement is a "him", then you need, "whom".
No, but they're so stuck in their ways that if you leave an hour before everybody else you're seen as slacking. There are more practical concerns as well. When your job involves constant communication with other employees--or with customers--their standard 9-5 schedule means that you'd be unable to get work done for the first hour and would lose that last (potentially productive) hour.
Not everyone has a job in which they're free to work a flexible schedule.
Wrong. I'll qualify that - Joe isn't dumb, but he doesn't know anything about how his computer works.
If someone is knowledgeable enough to have MP3's on their system to play, they are knowledgeable enough to google "play mp3 in ubuntu", hit I'm feeling lucky, and find their answer right there.
Wow. Wrong. Waaaaay wrong. Incredibly, totally, utterly off the mark very wrong. Believe it or not, a whole lot of Windows users know what MP3s are and how to get them. They'd be lost in Ubuntu.
Get one that does. First off, I've never found a wireless card that didn't work in Windows. I've had several that didn't work in Linux, but it's getting better.
Second, Joe shouldn't have to buy new hardware so that he can use the operating system that you prefer. That's just nuts.
You're right, of course, but that doesn't matter. All these guys are hoping for is that a percentage of these suits will result in the pittance that these monster companies will be willing to pay to just make them go away. If the "go away" money is less than the cost of going to court, they'll pay it.
You've misinterpreted the intent of the originator's post - he was blaming ALL OF AMERICA for the perspective of a single writer for the Washington Post. I challenge you to explain to me how that makes him a "friendly face".
What sort of weird bigotry leads you to decide that it's difficult to "love and respect the American nation" because you disagree with the focus of an article in a newspaper? It would make more sense if you found it difficult to "love and respect" the Washington Post - or better yet, what if you were to limit your emotional vexation to having a tough time loving and respecting the author of the article in question? It'll be far less taxing on you emotionally, which seems to be a concern.
I'm not really trying to limit the degree to which you find it difficult to love and respect an entire nation of individual entities. Speaking as one tiny portion of the nation in question, I don't love you either, so you don't have to feel guilty about this odd difficulty you're having. Perhaps therapy would help you.
I concur with your bullshit assessment. I've used three different phones in the past three years: the Cingular 8125 (EDGE only), the 8525 (3G when available, EDGE otherwise), and the iPhone (EDGE only, WTF?). I can tell you that, from my perspective, the 3G network is FAR more responsive, regardless of the application. It made a huge difference in my web browsing, and I miss it greatly.
I don't know what this guy's on (nor do I care), but his basic point is complete bullshit, in my opinion.
Get the matte finish screen protector from the Apple store. It's very easy to apply, and is very resistant to fingerprints/oil smudges. Makes a big difference.
You're too kind. By the way, it's called "inferring", when performed by the reader; as in this case, when you inferred an attack on an entire economic system out of a simple statement.
You know what I'm missing? The word "government" anywhere in my post.
Did I SAY that I wanted big brother to step in and enforce controls? Did I say that I need someone to hold my hand while I spend my money?
Why don't you leap to a couple of more conclusions, tard.
What am I complaining about? I think I made that fairly clear. Two things: 1) corporations that like to squeeze every penny out of me that they can, and 2) jackasses who think that throwing the words "free market" into any argument somehow makes 1) not happen.
Congratulations on your obvious superiority. Twit.
That's a very pat answer - and a typical reply for those who worship at the altar of "free market". In your world, this is a simple supply/demand equation, and the answer is very black and white.
The problem is, there's a huge difference between "reasonable pricing" and "too high, but I have to pay it if I want the service". One is fair, the other is borderline extortion. Ask my cable provider about that one. I can choose to not have any cable, or I can choose to pay too much. My choice. I grant you that it's a luxury rather than a necessity. After all, I could choose to live in my car to save on rent, or walk four hours to get to work rather than pay my car payment. Life is a continual, delicate balance between what we want and what we need, and it's all just a matter of prioritizing.
The issue with the cell phone providers is this: While I can choose a different provider and pick the cheapest plan I can find, in my opinion ALL of the available plans are over-priced. I go with the cheapest plan that I can while still having what I'd call a reasonable service. Still, it takes a large chunk out of my take home pay. They're walking that fine line of charging me enough to make obscene profits, while not charging so much that I simply can't squeeze the money out of my paycheck. Another fine example of corporate America doing what it can to keep the shareholders and CEOs happy at the expense of the average worker. It's called greed, and greed is what makes your lovely little free market work so well--at least for those who sit at the top of it.
In the supply/demand equation, price should go down if supply goes up. For the cell phone companies, supply simply isn't an issue. Demand only comes into play at the bottom line. The old formulas don't apply here.
Nah, men like fast cars, period. Men also like women who like men with fast cars, but if there were no women who liked men with fast cars, men would still like fast cars.
I concede that much of what we do centers around whether women like it, but not everything. I present as my proof the following word:
The fact is, the entire environmental movement is part of an overall socialist agenda to try and deindustrialize western nations so that the third world can be "equal".
Thanks for presenting that "fact". My life is now complete.
I have never understood society's need to set aside certain words, phrases, and gestures as "profanity". It's not as though these words have been handed to us by avatars of evil; we invented them ourselves, with specific purposes and meanings in mind. Then we promptly decided that we couldn't say them in polite company (whatever that is). It's bizarre.
Even more bizarre are those who choose to become offended by those words, and who decide to post high-handed, holier-than-thou comments on public forums in order to castigate a guy who's just telling a joke.
You're right, of course - Apple's not targeting me. I don't know who they are targeting, to be honest... bloody thing costs too much and doesn't do everything that my current phone does. And my phone only cost me $200. Whoever their target audience was, however, they've found at least 700K of them so far, so I'm sure they're happy.
I've actually had an iPhone in hand, and played with it for a while. I understand the appeal... Apple does interface very well. I don't see $600 worth of appeal there, however.
The battery wasn't the deal breaker - the price was - but it was certainly a nail. The replacement battery for my phone's going to cost me $20, and I don't have to ship it anywhere to replace it.
I'm sorry, but it seems to me that you're pushing hard to rationalize the irrational. No, Apple isn't "stupid". I think that the word you wanted there was "greedy".
I don't need a proper battery compartment. What I need is a battery with edge connectors so that it can be replaced without needing to ship it to that professional you referred to. I'm perfectly fine with needing a screwdriver to make that happen.
I'll tell you what - I'll give you back one or two of those millimeters you're so impressed with, if you'll give me a consumer-replaceable battery. Deal?
I haven't done any calculations to determine how fast my connection was. What I have done, is stand staring at my phone as it takes a very, very long time to load even the most simple pages. Not so on 3G.
You make good points, within the boundaries defined by your personal experience. Here's a viewpoint as defined by my experience.
I've recently upgraded to the 8525, Cingular's (now AT&T again) HTC Hermes offering. In addition to the neat slidey keyboard and the ability to run third party apps, my phone utilizes the 3G network.
My old phone (the 8125) did not have 3G capability, and due to the extreme slowness of the network connection, I rarely made use of the phone's ability to surf the net. I would typically use it to answer a question I have at that moment, rather than for entertainment/random browsing. Even with that limited usage, however, I found it painful and annoying to sit and wait for my high-tech gadget to display web pages.
With the new phone, I make much more use of this capability, sometimes even browsing when standing in line at the store. It's been a paradigm shift for me - I'm now confident that I'll actually be able to load pages in that limited amount of time. I also have no issues with battery life on my phone - though I plug it in every evening out of habit, I usually have at least 80% of my battery charge left at the end of the day.
I'm not a power user. I'm not on my phone constantly, I don't check e-mail on my phone routinely, and I use my browser because I want to, not to satisfy any real need. However, when I found out the the iPhone wasn't going to be 3G capable, it was a strong point against the phone, for me personally. Even though I only use my browsing capabilities sporadically, I simply don't want to go back to the kinds of speeds the EDGE network offers.
As far as I can tell, my phone has more functionality at a considerably cheaper price (with the deals Cingular offered if you buy it with a plan, and with my company discount - deals not available with the iPhone - it cost me less than $200). The iPhone looks very slick, and I'm sure that it'll sell like mad... but lack of 3G capability was the final nail in its coffin for me.
Since you're a frequent poster on this site, I'm sure you're aware that there was an equal chance of you being an idiot vs. being someone who was playing a game. Good on ya for playing a game, but don't assume that everyone who calls you on it is a grammar nazi. For instance, I don't give a flying rat's ass that you abused your logical fallacy - it made your point clearly, which is good enough for me. "intensive purposes", on the other hand, doesn't mean anything and therefore doesn't help make your point. So it bugged me.
Since it turns out that you didn't actually have a point other than setting out bait, it's irrelevant.
Sorry, but is there any chance at all that you could fix your sig? It's driving me a little batshit. I realize that doesn't give you any incentive to change it, but I thought I'd give it a shot.
There's no such phrase as "intensive purposes". You meant, "intents and purposes". I don't know if you were going for irony at the end there, but "who cares" is and always has been correct. If you can replace the "who" with a "he", then "who" is correct. If the appropriate replacement is a "him", then you need, "whom".
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Right, because the respondent didn't already have problems with his marriage.
Thanks for a perfect example of the sort of bullsh!t logic the trolls use to justify the harm they cause for lulz.
Not everyone has a job in which they're free to work a flexible schedule.
Wrong. I'll qualify that - Joe isn't dumb, but he doesn't know anything about how his computer works.
If someone is knowledgeable enough to have MP3's on their system to play, they are knowledgeable enough to google "play mp3 in ubuntu", hit I'm feeling lucky, and find their answer right there.Wow. Wrong. Waaaaay wrong. Incredibly, totally, utterly off the mark very wrong. Believe it or not, a whole lot of Windows users know what MP3s are and how to get them. They'd be lost in Ubuntu.
Get one that does. First off, I've never found a wireless card that didn't work in Windows. I've had several that didn't work in Linux, but it's getting better.Second, Joe shouldn't have to buy new hardware so that he can use the operating system that you prefer. That's just nuts.
You're right, of course, but that doesn't matter. All these guys are hoping for is that a percentage of these suits will result in the pittance that these monster companies will be willing to pay to just make them go away. If the "go away" money is less than the cost of going to court, they'll pay it.
But then again, you can't start fun rumors like this one if you're going to taint your efforts with actual facts.
You've misinterpreted the intent of the originator's post - he was blaming ALL OF AMERICA for the perspective of a single writer for the Washington Post. I challenge you to explain to me how that makes him a "friendly face".
I'm not really trying to limit the degree to which you find it difficult to love and respect an entire nation of individual entities. Speaking as one tiny portion of the nation in question, I don't love you either, so you don't have to feel guilty about this odd difficulty you're having. Perhaps therapy would help you.
I concur with your bullshit assessment. I've used three different phones in the past three years: the Cingular 8125 (EDGE only), the 8525 (3G when available, EDGE otherwise), and the iPhone (EDGE only, WTF?). I can tell you that, from my perspective, the 3G network is FAR more responsive, regardless of the application. It made a huge difference in my web browsing, and I miss it greatly. I don't know what this guy's on (nor do I care), but his basic point is complete bullshit, in my opinion.
Get the matte finish screen protector from the Apple store. It's very easy to apply, and is very resistant to fingerprints/oil smudges. Makes a big difference.
You're too kind. By the way, it's called "inferring", when performed by the reader; as in this case, when you inferred an attack on an entire economic system out of a simple statement.
You know what I'm missing? The word "government" anywhere in my post. Did I SAY that I wanted big brother to step in and enforce controls? Did I say that I need someone to hold my hand while I spend my money? Why don't you leap to a couple of more conclusions, tard. What am I complaining about? I think I made that fairly clear. Two things: 1) corporations that like to squeeze every penny out of me that they can, and 2) jackasses who think that throwing the words "free market" into any argument somehow makes 1) not happen. Congratulations on your obvious superiority. Twit.
That's a very pat answer - and a typical reply for those who worship at the altar of "free market". In your world, this is a simple supply/demand equation, and the answer is very black and white.
The problem is, there's a huge difference between "reasonable pricing" and "too high, but I have to pay it if I want the service". One is fair, the other is borderline extortion. Ask my cable provider about that one. I can choose to not have any cable, or I can choose to pay too much. My choice. I grant you that it's a luxury rather than a necessity. After all, I could choose to live in my car to save on rent, or walk four hours to get to work rather than pay my car payment. Life is a continual, delicate balance between what we want and what we need, and it's all just a matter of prioritizing.
The issue with the cell phone providers is this: While I can choose a different provider and pick the cheapest plan I can find, in my opinion ALL of the available plans are over-priced. I go with the cheapest plan that I can while still having what I'd call a reasonable service. Still, it takes a large chunk out of my take home pay. They're walking that fine line of charging me enough to make obscene profits, while not charging so much that I simply can't squeeze the money out of my paycheck. Another fine example of corporate America doing what it can to keep the shareholders and CEOs happy at the expense of the average worker. It's called greed, and greed is what makes your lovely little free market work so well--at least for those who sit at the top of it.
In the supply/demand equation, price should go down if supply goes up. For the cell phone companies, supply simply isn't an issue. Demand only comes into play at the bottom line. The old formulas don't apply here.
There's a world of difference between "you are incorrect", and "I disagree". I respectfully suggest that you look into it.
Kudos.
I concede that much of what we do centers around whether women like it, but not everything. I present as my proof the following word:
"Golf"
Thanks for presenting that "fact". My life is now complete.
Brother, can you spare a tinfoil hat?
>> It was a JOKE, people! Christ.
Even more bizarre are those who choose to become offended by those words, and who decide to post high-handed, holier-than-thou comments on public forums in order to castigate a guy who's just telling a joke.
How DARE you??!?!
I know you're making a joke - really funny, har har!
But you have to understand that SOME of us take this kind of thing very, very seriously, and for your information, Mr. Hogger...
Jesus Christ's middle initial is not H !!!!
Goddamned blasphemer....
You're right, of course - Apple's not targeting me. I don't know who they are targeting, to be honest... bloody thing costs too much and doesn't do everything that my current phone does. And my phone only cost me $200. Whoever their target audience was, however, they've found at least 700K of them so far, so I'm sure they're happy.
I've actually had an iPhone in hand, and played with it for a while. I understand the appeal... Apple does interface very well. I don't see $600 worth of appeal there, however.
The battery wasn't the deal breaker - the price was - but it was certainly a nail. The replacement battery for my phone's going to cost me $20, and I don't have to ship it anywhere to replace it.
I don't need a proper battery compartment. What I need is a battery with edge connectors so that it can be replaced without needing to ship it to that professional you referred to. I'm perfectly fine with needing a screwdriver to make that happen.
I'll tell you what - I'll give you back one or two of those millimeters you're so impressed with, if you'll give me a consumer-replaceable battery. Deal?
I haven't done any calculations to determine how fast my connection was. What I have done, is stand staring at my phone as it takes a very, very long time to load even the most simple pages. Not so on 3G.
I've recently upgraded to the 8525, Cingular's (now AT&T again) HTC Hermes offering. In addition to the neat slidey keyboard and the ability to run third party apps, my phone utilizes the 3G network.
My old phone (the 8125) did not have 3G capability, and due to the extreme slowness of the network connection, I rarely made use of the phone's ability to surf the net. I would typically use it to answer a question I have at that moment, rather than for entertainment/random browsing. Even with that limited usage, however, I found it painful and annoying to sit and wait for my high-tech gadget to display web pages.
With the new phone, I make much more use of this capability, sometimes even browsing when standing in line at the store. It's been a paradigm shift for me - I'm now confident that I'll actually be able to load pages in that limited amount of time. I also have no issues with battery life on my phone - though I plug it in every evening out of habit, I usually have at least 80% of my battery charge left at the end of the day.
I'm not a power user. I'm not on my phone constantly, I don't check e-mail on my phone routinely, and I use my browser because I want to, not to satisfy any real need. However, when I found out the the iPhone wasn't going to be 3G capable, it was a strong point against the phone, for me personally. Even though I only use my browsing capabilities sporadically, I simply don't want to go back to the kinds of speeds the EDGE network offers.
As far as I can tell, my phone has more functionality at a considerably cheaper price (with the deals Cingular offered if you buy it with a plan, and with my company discount - deals not available with the iPhone - it cost me less than $200). The iPhone looks very slick, and I'm sure that it'll sell like mad... but lack of 3G capability was the final nail in its coffin for me.