I know most people don't care about this, but i really do, and it prevents me from using a lot of software. Mozilla's UI is hideous. It always has been. It doesn't look good on any platform that i've ever used it on (Windows, Mac, Linux).
That is the main reason i've always hated Mozilla. Not the fact that it uses up more RAM than the Mac OS itself, or the fact that the icon is ugmo, or the fact that it takes a year to load up. It's just gross.
Not that hard to come up with a decent interface, honestly. Firefox had a little trouble with it at first, but it only took a few versions for them to iron out most of it. It's not like Mozilla's been around for 11 years or anything.
According to NEC, their software is designed to sound an alarm when being used, to avoid any copyright conflicts. The company claims that any attempts to mute the device somehow or plug in headphones will not affect the audibility of this alarm.
I can understand their reason for doing that, but that doesn't really endear me to using mobile phones 'as portable faxes or scanners that can be used any time'. I personally feel kind of awkward when my phone's camera makes that little clicky noise. I don't think i would ever use it if it sounded an alarm.
Shitty of a program as it is, WinMX seems to have a huge following in East Asia. So... if you're into Japanese music and stuff like that, WinMX is a pretty good place to look.
Uh. Contractions, slang, and acronyms aren't 'errors'. Not unless you're writing a formal paper, anyway. There's this thing called conversational English that people occasionally use.
Um. What are you talking about? Windows 2000 had several versions. We personally own Professional, Server, and Advanced Server. Maybe there are even others aside from those, i don't remember.
Yeah, right on. The press obviously isn't showing dead bodies in news papers because President Chimp will charge them with sedition and throw them in jail for 3 years if they do.
Be for fucking real, honestly.
Nobody can seriously criticise Bush anymore because everybody ends up sounding like a fucking idiot because people like you go around blaming him for the stupidest irrelevant shit. gb2/dailykos
You know, i am definitely not a fan of SUVs, but if you think about it you really can't complain about them that much.
You are sitting there at your computer browsing Slashdot. The utility company is (most likely) using up oil to run your ISP's computers and your own computer. I don't know how much, but it's there, and browsing Slashdot sure as hell isn't any more essential to your life than driving an SUV to work is.
SUVs suck, yeah, but you can't sit there and honestly complain about recreational oil usage until you cut it out yourself. No more video games, no more Slashdot, no more CD-player, no more satellite television. Or not until you've got all of it running on some renewable resource, anyway. Then you can complain about SUVs.
Um. The first of the five you offered said it was 'cooler' to do it yourself. I didn't say anything about being cool, i said you could buy the same exact keyboard for $50 less (and then i linked to it, which is something that only one other person on this page did, and he probably did it while i was still reading the page). gg.
As far as titles, i don't ever read them (most of the time it's just 'Re: something dumb' anyway). Going back and looking at them now, though, i don't know what you're talking about. I'm looking at the entire first page and i don't see anything even remotely 'almost verbatim' what i said.
New clipboard management, based on the Freedesktop.org specification and tightly integrated with GNOME, allows for objects to persist in the clipboard longer than the lifetime of an application. This means that if you cut or copy an object and then exit that application, the item you put on the clipboard will remain until you replace it.
Wow guys. That's amazing. Great job on that one, you're truly revolutionising the computer world.
It's posted more often than that. Every single time Microsoft does something even slightly stupid (even if it's not related to Windows itself), some idiot will come along and be like OH BOY TIHS IS LINIXS BIG CHANCE GUYS I CAN SEE IT NOW
... But Microsoft has done something stupid every day for the past decade (at least), and Linux still isn't popular on the desk-top.
If you like Linux and want it to succeed, that's awesome. Me too. But stop kidding yourself, you look like idiots. Don't pat yourself on the back every time Microsoft screws up, because it's going to take a GIGANTIC screw-up to ever put Linux anywhere near being a popular desk-top OS. In fact, chances are that it'll never happen, unless somebody really smart does with Linux what Apple did with BSD.
That was just a stupid example. I'm sure there are statistics about Black people that are more closely related to 'intelligence' (maybe even some that refer directly to intelligence), but that was the obvious example that came to mind.
The point was, we can look at any group of people, and all of them will differ in statistics. Maybe Asian people are better with colours than White people. Maybe Jews make more money per capita than Christians. Maybe people with blue eyes respond more negatively to stress than people with green eyes. I don't know, but there are all kinds of statistics like that that establish some kind of 'ranking', whether it's intellectual or social or whatever.
The difference is that most of us never take any of those statistics into account in the real world, because to do so would be unfair discrimination. To assume that a White person is worse at maths than a Chinese person, and then to get upset when that stereotype doesn't hold true, would be offensive. But when it comes to men and women, most people are more than happy to do things like that. They will say that 'women are more emotional' or 'men are all sex freaks' or whatever, and maybe statistically that stuff is true, but those are the kinds of things that never affect our relationships with other races or other nationalities. They only affect sex, and what's particularly bad about it is that when one of those stereotypes doesn't hold true in a sex situation, most people get upset. When an Asian person isn't good at maths, we just say, OK, and we move on. When a female doesn't hold up to our stereotypes of females, though, it's a big deal, and we have to dwell on this and make derogatory comments and think that maybe she's mentally 'wrong' or 'undesirable'.
In the case of intelligence i expect that this is the same kind of thing. In the real world statistics like this wouldn't matter. Nobody would really care if it was 'Asians are smarter than Whites'. People would just think, 'gee, interesting factoid', and then it would never affect them in real life. (Notice how everybody is only talking about the 'men smarter than women' thing even though the article also mentions that Whites are smarter than Blacks.) But, in the case of men vs women, for some reason this is something that people want to dwell on.
I have never been one to consider the ability to spot differences in geometric shapes a sign of 'intelligence', at least not as far as humans themselves go. (Maybe if you're comparing humans versus jellyfish, then it is.) To me, it's a stupid test. Intelligence is the ability to efficiently apply past knowledge to new situations (you can call that 'reasoning' or 'logic' or whatever you want, but that's what it boils down to for me). Spotting patterns and differences in shapes and being able to do arithmetic does not strike me as a particularly awesome measure of this ability.
And as far as male intelligence versus female intelligence, i don't see why this is a concern even if it is true. I find that the differences between men and women are way over-exaggerated. You will accept that Black people are (for example) more likely to develop anaemia than White people, or more likely to have curly hair than White people, and so on, but nobody treats Black people differently because of this. These are just irrelevant statistics. Most people believe that Black people should be judged on their individual merits.
With women and men, though, it's like every single little statistical difference is something that has to be computed into how we treat each other on an every-day basis. Whereas most people find discrimination based on race highly offensive, it is not only acceptable to discriminate based on sex, it's expected. I personally don't think anyone should be treated differently based on a coincidental statistic that may or may not apply to them. But i guess i'm one of the few.:shrug:
(Assuming again that this is truly going to be a 'Google IM' and it's not just some bizarro misunderstanding,) talk.google.com is running Jabber. If they're going to launch the service tomorrow, that's what they're going to launch with. It's not like they're just running Jabber today and then tomorrow they're going to switch it all up on us with some crazy proprietary protocol.
And... since Jabber is 'an open and published IM standard'... what have you got to worry about?
Also, i don't know a whole ton about Jabber or how Google works internally, and i'm not suggesting that it's true or false, but what are the chances that maybe talk.google.com is just like a corporate Jabber server? Like for Google employees to talk to each other?:shrug:
The agreement thing basically just says that if you order the boxes, you're going to use them for the express purpose of shipping things through Priority Mail. Using them for any other purpose is (i think) considered mail fraud.
Of course... unless you're ordering ridiculous amounts of boxes all the time, they're never going to know the difference. And maybe even then they still won't. It's not like they send out inspectors to check up on you.
Of course they do. A $150 phone is only like $30 if you get a plan with it.
I expect that this means that the initial price of the phone will be $20. In other words, buying a whole phone without a plan could now be cheaper than buying a whole phone with a plan (and an 80% price reduction).
That it certainly appeared to me that you were painting all people who disagree with the homosexual lifestyle as "homophobes" and I think that is an unreasonable characterization. I do not fear homosexuals, and object to being called a homophobe when I philosophically tolerate but disagree with their choices.
I don't think everyone who disagrees with homosexuality is a homophobe, and i don't think you are either. But i do think that a lot (again, not all, but many) of the people who make such a big fuss about how they aren't homophobes really are, at least in some sense of the word. A lot of the people who gripe about being called a 'homophobe' make a big deal out of how they're not actually afraid of homosexuals (as if someone is accusing them of running away screaming every time they run into a gay person or something silly like that), as if the one pedantic definition that they adhere to has any relevance to the way people normally use that word.
Regarding the interpretation of the Bible, it's kind of pointless to argue about it, and like i said i'm no expert, so i won't even try to debate you on that. If your code of living says that homosexuality is wrong, that's cool. The only thing that i really care about is whether or not you're going to let your code of living unreasonably interfere with the lives of other people. (And i don't know if you do, i'm not accusing you or anything.)
Well, i'm not an expert on the Bible, so i may be talking out of my ass, but i've gone to seminars before regarding this subject, and the few Bible scholars i've run into seem to believe that the Bible doesn't 'clearly teach' anything about homosexuality. If you want to see it that way, that's cool, but there are a lot of other explanations. Just an aside, i guess.
In any case, regarding the rest of your post, i don't know what that has to do with what i said before. Don't look at me if you're trying to find someone who agrees with the speech laws in Sweden and Canada. I personally am a big supporter of gay rights (including marriage and adoption and so forth), but i also think that hate-speech laws are retarded.
If you're harassing someone, then you should be punished for harassing them. Your opinion of their ethnicity or sexual preference doesn't really matter, all that matters is that you were harassing them. To suggest that someone who was stabbed because of their sexual orientation is somehow more entitled to justice than someone who was stabbed for another reason is just plain stupid. It's thought-policing.
So... um... yeah. I'm not exactly sure if you're trying to argue with me or if you're just talking generally or what. But i certainly hope that you don't think everyone who's OK with homosexuality is a big fan of the 'free speech unless it's something the government doesn't like' approach that Sweden has.
Why are they opposed to homosexual behaviour, though? Because they're afraid that it will corrupt their children or because they're afraid that it will subvert the family or because they're afraid that it will spread disease or because they're afraid that God will be angry with them if they don't do something about it?
'Homophobe' doesn't strictly refer to being afraid of homosexuals, in the first place (yes, that's sort of a corruption of the technical definition of 'phobia', but langauge changes, get over it), but even if it did i think that the way a lot of people think would still qualify. Not necessarily you (i don't know), but a lot of people.
Trillian is OK feature-wise (it supports most of the major protocols completely), but there's also Miranda, which is an open-source 'minimal' client. It's got a ways to go (their AIM plug-in still uses TOC instead of OSCAR), but depending on what you need it might be good for you.
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I know most people don't care about this, but i really do, and it prevents me from using a lot of software. Mozilla's UI is hideous. It always has been. It doesn't look good on any platform that i've ever used it on (Windows, Mac, Linux).
That is the main reason i've always hated Mozilla. Not the fact that it uses up more RAM than the Mac OS itself, or the fact that the icon is ugmo, or the fact that it takes a year to load up. It's just gross.
Not that hard to come up with a decent interface, honestly. Firefox had a little trouble with it at first, but it only took a few versions for them to iron out most of it. It's not like Mozilla's been around for 11 years or anything.
My phone doesn't. It gives me the option of five different sounds. Can't turn it off altogether, even if i put it in silent mode.
According to NEC, their software is designed to sound an alarm when being used, to avoid any copyright conflicts. The company claims that any attempts to mute the device somehow or plug in headphones will not affect the audibility of this alarm.
I can understand their reason for doing that, but that doesn't really endear me to using mobile phones 'as portable faxes or scanners that can be used any time'. I personally feel kind of awkward when my phone's camera makes that little clicky noise. I don't think i would ever use it if it sounded an alarm.
Shitty of a program as it is, WinMX seems to have a huge following in East Asia. So... if you're into Japanese music and stuff like that, WinMX is a pretty good place to look.
Read the post you replied to again.
Uh. Contractions, slang, and acronyms aren't 'errors'. Not unless you're writing a formal paper, anyway. There's this thing called conversational English that people occasionally use.
Um. What are you talking about? Windows 2000 had several versions. We personally own Professional, Server, and Advanced Server. Maybe there are even others aside from those, i don't remember.
Gosh! You sure do think different!
Yeah, right on. The press obviously isn't showing dead bodies in news papers because President Chimp will charge them with sedition and throw them in jail for 3 years if they do.
Be for fucking real, honestly.
Nobody can seriously criticise Bush anymore because everybody ends up sounding like a fucking idiot because people like you go around blaming him for the stupidest irrelevant shit. gb2/dailykos
You know, i am definitely not a fan of SUVs, but if you think about it you really can't complain about them that much.
You are sitting there at your computer browsing Slashdot. The utility company is (most likely) using up oil to run your ISP's computers and your own computer. I don't know how much, but it's there, and browsing Slashdot sure as hell isn't any more essential to your life than driving an SUV to work is.
SUVs suck, yeah, but you can't sit there and honestly complain about recreational oil usage until you cut it out yourself. No more video games, no more Slashdot, no more CD-player, no more satellite television. Or not until you've got all of it running on some renewable resource, anyway. Then you can complain about SUVs.
Um. The first of the five you offered said it was 'cooler' to do it yourself. I didn't say anything about being cool, i said you could buy the same exact keyboard for $50 less (and then i linked to it, which is something that only one other person on this page did, and he probably did it while i was still reading the page). gg.
As far as titles, i don't ever read them (most of the time it's just 'Re: something dumb' anyway). Going back and looking at them now, though, i don't know what you're talking about. I'm looking at the entire first page and i don't see anything even remotely 'almost verbatim' what i said.
Thanks for telling me, though, i suppose....
The black keyboard that i bought for my computer cost $5. Still has the letters on it, but that's pretty fine by me.
The reason that one costs $30, by the way, is the weighted keys. Kinda sounds annoying to me, but i suppose some people would like it.
Main reason not to buy one?
Because it's just a normal $30 keyboard you can buy from any computer store. Paint it black yourself if you want to.
80 fucking dollars, give me a break.
No kidding. I prefer GNOME to KDE, but come on.
New clipboard management, based on the Freedesktop.org specification and tightly integrated with GNOME, allows for objects to persist in the clipboard longer than the lifetime of an application. This means that if you cut or copy an object and then exit that application, the item you put on the clipboard will remain until you replace it.
Wow guys. That's amazing. Great job on that one, you're truly revolutionising the computer world.
I knew somebody would say that. You get what i meant.
It's posted more often than that. Every single time Microsoft does something even slightly stupid (even if it's not related to Windows itself), some idiot will come along and be like OH BOY TIHS IS LINIXS BIG CHANCE GUYS I CAN SEE IT NOW
... But Microsoft has done something stupid every day for the past decade (at least), and Linux still isn't popular on the desk-top.
If you like Linux and want it to succeed, that's awesome. Me too. But stop kidding yourself, you look like idiots. Don't pat yourself on the back every time Microsoft screws up, because it's going to take a GIGANTIC screw-up to ever put Linux anywhere near being a popular desk-top OS. In fact, chances are that it'll never happen, unless somebody really smart does with Linux what Apple did with BSD.
That was just a stupid example. I'm sure there are statistics about Black people that are more closely related to 'intelligence' (maybe even some that refer directly to intelligence), but that was the obvious example that came to mind.
The point was, we can look at any group of people, and all of them will differ in statistics. Maybe Asian people are better with colours than White people. Maybe Jews make more money per capita than Christians. Maybe people with blue eyes respond more negatively to stress than people with green eyes. I don't know, but there are all kinds of statistics like that that establish some kind of 'ranking', whether it's intellectual or social or whatever.
The difference is that most of us never take any of those statistics into account in the real world, because to do so would be unfair discrimination. To assume that a White person is worse at maths than a Chinese person, and then to get upset when that stereotype doesn't hold true, would be offensive. But when it comes to men and women, most people are more than happy to do things like that. They will say that 'women are more emotional' or 'men are all sex freaks' or whatever, and maybe statistically that stuff is true, but those are the kinds of things that never affect our relationships with other races or other nationalities. They only affect sex, and what's particularly bad about it is that when one of those stereotypes doesn't hold true in a sex situation, most people get upset. When an Asian person isn't good at maths, we just say, OK, and we move on. When a female doesn't hold up to our stereotypes of females, though, it's a big deal, and we have to dwell on this and make derogatory comments and think that maybe she's mentally 'wrong' or 'undesirable'.
In the case of intelligence i expect that this is the same kind of thing. In the real world statistics like this wouldn't matter. Nobody would really care if it was 'Asians are smarter than Whites'. People would just think, 'gee, interesting factoid', and then it would never affect them in real life. (Notice how everybody is only talking about the 'men smarter than women' thing even though the article also mentions that Whites are smarter than Blacks.) But, in the case of men vs women, for some reason this is something that people want to dwell on.
I have never been one to consider the ability to spot differences in geometric shapes a sign of 'intelligence', at least not as far as humans themselves go. (Maybe if you're comparing humans versus jellyfish, then it is.) To me, it's a stupid test. Intelligence is the ability to efficiently apply past knowledge to new situations (you can call that 'reasoning' or 'logic' or whatever you want, but that's what it boils down to for me). Spotting patterns and differences in shapes and being able to do arithmetic does not strike me as a particularly awesome measure of this ability.
And as far as male intelligence versus female intelligence, i don't see why this is a concern even if it is true. I find that the differences between men and women are way over-exaggerated. You will accept that Black people are (for example) more likely to develop anaemia than White people, or more likely to have curly hair than White people, and so on, but nobody treats Black people differently because of this. These are just irrelevant statistics. Most people believe that Black people should be judged on their individual merits.
With women and men, though, it's like every single little statistical difference is something that has to be computed into how we treat each other on an every-day basis. Whereas most people find discrimination based on race highly offensive, it is not only acceptable to discriminate based on sex, it's expected. I personally don't think anyone should be treated differently based on a coincidental statistic that may or may not apply to them. But i guess i'm one of the few. :shrug:
(Assuming again that this is truly going to be a 'Google IM' and it's not just some bizarro misunderstanding,) talk.google.com is running Jabber. If they're going to launch the service tomorrow, that's what they're going to launch with. It's not like they're just running Jabber today and then tomorrow they're going to switch it all up on us with some crazy proprietary protocol.
And... since Jabber is 'an open and published IM standard'... what have you got to worry about?
Also, i don't know a whole ton about Jabber or how Google works internally, and i'm not suggesting that it's true or false, but what are the chances that maybe talk.google.com is just like a corporate Jabber server? Like for Google employees to talk to each other?
The agreement thing basically just says that if you order the boxes, you're going to use them for the express purpose of shipping things through Priority Mail. Using them for any other purpose is (i think) considered mail fraud.
Of course... unless you're ordering ridiculous amounts of boxes all the time, they're never going to know the difference. And maybe even then they still won't. It's not like they send out inspectors to check up on you.
Of course they do. A $150 phone is only like $30 if you get a plan with it.
I expect that this means that the initial price of the phone will be $20. In other words, buying a whole phone without a plan could now be cheaper than buying a whole phone with a plan (and an 80% price reduction).
That it certainly appeared to me that you were painting all people who disagree with the homosexual lifestyle as "homophobes" and I think that is an unreasonable characterization. I do not fear homosexuals, and object to being called a homophobe when I philosophically tolerate but disagree with their choices.
I don't think everyone who disagrees with homosexuality is a homophobe, and i don't think you are either. But i do think that a lot (again, not all, but many) of the people who make such a big fuss about how they aren't homophobes really are, at least in some sense of the word. A lot of the people who gripe about being called a 'homophobe' make a big deal out of how they're not actually afraid of homosexuals (as if someone is accusing them of running away screaming every time they run into a gay person or something silly like that), as if the one pedantic definition that they adhere to has any relevance to the way people normally use that word.
Regarding the interpretation of the Bible, it's kind of pointless to argue about it, and like i said i'm no expert, so i won't even try to debate you on that. If your code of living says that homosexuality is wrong, that's cool. The only thing that i really care about is whether or not you're going to let your code of living unreasonably interfere with the lives of other people. (And i don't know if you do, i'm not accusing you or anything.)
Well, i'm not an expert on the Bible, so i may be talking out of my ass, but i've gone to seminars before regarding this subject, and the few Bible scholars i've run into seem to believe that the Bible doesn't 'clearly teach' anything about homosexuality. If you want to see it that way, that's cool, but there are a lot of other explanations. Just an aside, i guess.
In any case, regarding the rest of your post, i don't know what that has to do with what i said before. Don't look at me if you're trying to find someone who agrees with the speech laws in Sweden and Canada. I personally am a big supporter of gay rights (including marriage and adoption and so forth), but i also think that hate-speech laws are retarded.
If you're harassing someone, then you should be punished for harassing them. Your opinion of their ethnicity or sexual preference doesn't really matter, all that matters is that you were harassing them. To suggest that someone who was stabbed because of their sexual orientation is somehow more entitled to justice than someone who was stabbed for another reason is just plain stupid. It's thought-policing.
So... um... yeah. I'm not exactly sure if you're trying to argue with me or if you're just talking generally or what. But i certainly hope that you don't think everyone who's OK with homosexuality is a big fan of the 'free speech unless it's something the government doesn't like' approach that Sweden has.
Why are they opposed to homosexual behaviour, though? Because they're afraid that it will corrupt their children or because they're afraid that it will subvert the family or because they're afraid that it will spread disease or because they're afraid that God will be angry with them if they don't do something about it?
'Homophobe' doesn't strictly refer to being afraid of homosexuals, in the first place (yes, that's sort of a corruption of the technical definition of 'phobia', but langauge changes, get over it), but even if it did i think that the way a lot of people think would still qualify. Not necessarily you (i don't know), but a lot of people.
Trillian is OK feature-wise (it supports most of the major protocols completely), but there's also Miranda, which is an open-source 'minimal' client. It's got a ways to go (their AIM plug-in still uses TOC instead of OSCAR), but depending on what you need it might be good for you.