This thread is about using Freenet as a potential replacement for other filesharing services.
I don't have to support anything.
Freenet will never become a replacement for other filesharing services. Why? Because it isn't a popular service today, and probably never will be.
In addition to being dog-slow and hard to use, many people like me won't support Freenet because freenet requires that you host anonymous content on your machine. There is too much Kiddy Porn and too little Legit Content, at a much higher ratio then other file-sharing services, to the point where I question the legitimacy of Freenet as a "freedom tool" at all.
Hey, believe me I understand your argument about fasist governments. I've worked with numerous groups under represive regimes. Because of the long memory of the Internet, I choose not to post that information here. Ironically, this is a good use for Freenet.
Why are you sending resumes in Word format instead of PDF or RTF?
I was unemployeed for a while, and sent out over 100 resumes. I usually sent my resume out as PDF, but about 5% of the employeers emailed back and said they needed MS Word, or their Job Website would only accept Word Documents. I wonder how many potential employeers never opened my PDF and never emailed me requesting a Word document.
This sounds fucking stupid, but remember-- we're talking about HR people for the most part. They are very un-technical, to the point where some HR people constantly send out important emails as MS Word attachments, instead of just typing the text in the email body.
Now that I am employeed, if I send a document as an RTF, I get a bunch of replys from people who say they have never heard of an RTF.
- There was a Ddos attack - After the site went down!
Was it a malicious Ddos attach, or was it really a million web browsers, RSS clients and automated trying to fetch and re-fetch content that suddently went missing?
In my own humble opinion I can say freedom all is a higher goal than protection of few children.
But if a few children are being exploited, does this mean you have a free society at all?
Now, while I agree with alot of the things you say above, I'm not sure Freenet will ever become very popular.
I reinstalled Freenet again to see what the status is these days. But when I last checked a few years ago, here is what I saw:
1. There is alot of child porn 2. There is very little legit content 3. Most of the legit content is already available elsewhere, through faster means. 4. To use Freenet I am reqired to mirror content which I find disgusting. Freedom also means that I am not required to support speech that I disagree with, which means I probablw won't support Freenet. 5. Some of the content might be more useful to people in other countries, but how can I find that content and mirror that content through freenet?
And you never use e-mail since pedophiles use it to lure young girls to be molested?
But there's a big difference between using a service where others post child porn and helping to distrubute child porn. With Freenet, do I have a choice to not distrubute that content? If not, then Freenet will never become a mainstream file-sharing service.
BTW, I just reinstalled Freenet and am checking out Frost. I'm curious if Freenet has changed over the last few years...
Re:Hooray for dumbing down?
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GIMP 2.2 Released
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· Score: 2, Insightful
It's also intuitive to RTFM or google when you don know the shortcut.
By definition, it's not intuitive if you need to RTFM just to use a basic function.
I agree... Bittorrent is a perfect method to distribute Free Software, especially programs as large as the Gimp.
Since a huge chunk of bandwidth is used by downloading, using Bittorrent could really reduce the costs of hosting the Software.
OpenOffice is available via Bittorrent. Most Linux distros are available via Bittorrent.
If I had the time I would start up "legittorrents.org" or something, but then you'd need to spend alot of time policing-- make sure that people aren't using your tracker/index to distribute non-legit files, adding software as it became available, etc.
I wonder if FreeNet might be a good source for torrents. It's hella slow, but you only need 35K or so downloaded before you can go off and connect to the torrent.
It's been a while since I last checked out Freenet. If I remember right, you mirror content without knowing what that content is When I last checked out Freenet (years ago), I was shocked by the amount of child porn that was available, and I was doubly shocked at the small amount of useful information on Freenet.
If I use Freenet to download a movie, will I also be hosting child porn? With Bittorrent and eDonkey, I have a choice of what content I distribute.
Look, I can't take such a neutral stance in regards to child exploitation. I don't agree with Freenet's statement, and I won't participate. Child porn is exploits and harms innocent children. Dismissing child porn as a simple "freedom of speech" it completely ignores rights of the victim. Child pornographers should to be burned alive.
If someone drugged you, raped you, took pictures of the rape, do they automatically have the right to put distribute those photos on the Internet? What about your rights?
Of course, with the SHA-0 cracked, how much time do we have left before we see modified binaries having the same checksum?
One of the major advantages of a p2p network is that if the file is good, there will be more people seeding & peering it.
If it's a legit distro distributed from a legit source, more people will seed and peer the file.
If it's a hacked distro, more people will find out and fewer people will seed and peer the file, and it will be harder to distribute.
This isn't always the case however-- before Farenheit 9/11 came out, there were a number of 700MB spoof video files with the title "Farenheit 9/11", and they were being mirrored pretty heavily...
Why have two projects going at the same time?
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Mozilla 1.7.5 Released
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· Score: 2, Interesting
Will we ever see a Mozilla suite composed of Firefox and Thunderbird to keep it all simple?
What are the reasons for keeping two different project sets going at the same time? More and more it seems like the Mozilla Suite is becoming the "Legacy Trunk", and Firebox & Thunderbird are the next-generation R&D releases.
It seems if we could dedicate more developers to a single development tree, it would be more efficient? Just one primary development trunk, no need to sync in changes from Firefox/Thunderbird -> Mozilla and from Mozilla -> Firefox/Thunderbird.
Hm, I wonder how many of these people moved out to the country because they wanted to "get the government off their backs", or were looking for lower taxes...
So what do I do? I'm currently studying for an MBA.
You and half the ex-dotcommers are studying for an MBA.
Once you get your MBA, and get a job using that MBA, come back and talk to us about the job market.
All the "maintenance" jobs in the world can move overseas, but you still need people back at home making the decisions. I'll become one of those.
What makes you think that many of the decision makers won't also be outsourced?
One of the major problems with outsourcing is the really poor communication resulting from the differences in languages and thought processes , time differences, etc. It's much easier when everyone works in the same room, and can go over the spec on the same whiteboard
Many of the decision-making people will also be outsourced.
Slashdot Mirror
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"Mooooooooooooooom! You're so unfaiiir! Everyone else has a brand new iMaaaaaaac, Geeeeeze!"
**bee boop beep boop boop be doo***
"Hold on, phone call!"
"Oh, hi Scott! Yah-huh! Yah-huh! Heeeeheehehehehe. Yah-huh! Yah-huh! heheeeehhhee!"
Look, you're missing my point.
This thread is about using Freenet as a potential replacement for other filesharing services.
I don't have to support anything.
Freenet will never become a replacement for other filesharing services. Why? Because it isn't a popular service today, and probably never will be.
In addition to being dog-slow and hard to use, many people like me won't support Freenet because freenet requires that you host anonymous content on your machine. There is too much Kiddy Porn and too little Legit Content, at a much higher ratio then other file-sharing services, to the point where I question the legitimacy of Freenet as a "freedom tool" at all.
Hey, believe me I understand your argument about fasist governments. I've worked with numerous groups under represive regimes. Because of the long memory of the Internet, I choose not to post that information here. Ironically, this is a good use for Freenet.
Why are you sending resumes in Word format instead of PDF or RTF?
I was unemployeed for a while, and sent out over 100 resumes. I usually sent my resume out as PDF, but about 5% of the employeers emailed back and said they needed MS Word, or their Job Website would only accept Word Documents. I wonder how many potential employeers never opened my PDF and never emailed me requesting a Word document.
This sounds fucking stupid, but remember-- we're talking about HR people for the most part. They are very un-technical, to the point where some HR people constantly send out important emails as MS Word attachments, instead of just typing the text in the email body.
Now that I am employeed, if I send a document as an RTF, I get a bunch of replys from people who say they have never heard of an RTF.
The photos are a non-issue.
I don't agree. Distributing the photos are a further violation of that individuals rights.
If you're suggesting that photographing crimes is wrong,
Photographing a crime with the intent of harming or exploiting the victim is wrong, and is probably illegal in many places.
- There was a Ddos attack - After the site went down!
Was it a malicious Ddos attach, or was it really a million web browsers, RSS clients and automated trying to fetch and re-fetch content that suddently went missing?
In my own humble opinion I can say freedom all is a higher goal than protection of few children.
But if a few children are being exploited, does this mean you have a free society at all?
Now, while I agree with alot of the things you say above, I'm not sure Freenet will ever become very popular.
I reinstalled Freenet again to see what the status is these days. But when I last checked a few years ago, here is what I saw:
1. There is alot of child porn
2. There is very little legit content
3. Most of the legit content is already available elsewhere, through faster means.
4. To use Freenet I am reqired to mirror content which I find disgusting. Freedom also means that I am not required to support speech that I disagree with, which means I probablw won't support Freenet.
5. Some of the content might be more useful to people in other countries, but how can I find that content and mirror that content through freenet?
And you never use e-mail since pedophiles use it to lure young girls to be molested?
But there's a big difference between using a service where others post child porn and helping to distrubute child porn. With Freenet, do I have a choice to not distrubute that content? If not, then Freenet will never become a mainstream file-sharing service.
BTW, I just reinstalled Freenet and am checking out Frost. I'm curious if Freenet has changed over the last few years...
It's also intuitive to RTFM or google when you don know the shortcut.
By definition, it's not intuitive if you need to RTFM just to use a basic function.
the distribution is exploitation without your consent.
And this could probably be qualified as a psychological assault.
The fact they drugged you and raped you - or the fact that evidence of it is distributed on the Internet?
Both! Drugged and rape is an assault, the distribution is exploitation without your concent.
Just press Ctrl+L to type the filename and/or path...
Duh! Now is that intuitive or what! Why click on a little box when you can type an obscure command!
I agree... Bittorrent is a perfect method to distribute Free Software, especially programs as large as the Gimp.
Since a huge chunk of bandwidth is used by downloading, using Bittorrent could really reduce the costs of hosting the Software.
OpenOffice is available via Bittorrent.
Most Linux distros are available via Bittorrent.
If I had the time I would start up "legittorrents.org" or something, but then you'd need to spend alot of time policing-- make sure that people aren't using your tracker/index to distribute non-legit files, adding software as it became available, etc.
I wonder if FreeNet might be a good source for torrents. It's hella slow, but you only need 35K or so downloaded before you can go off and connect to the torrent.
It's been a while since I last checked out Freenet. If I remember right, you mirror content without knowing what that content is When I last checked out Freenet (years ago), I was shocked by the amount of child porn that was available, and I was doubly shocked at the small amount of useful information on Freenet.
If I use Freenet to download a movie, will I also be hosting child porn? With Bittorrent and eDonkey, I have a choice of what content I distribute.
According to the Freenet FAQ:
The true test of someone who claims to believe in Freedom of Speech is whether they tolerate speech which they disagree with, or even find disgusting. If this is not acceptable to you, you should not run a Freenet node.
Look, I can't take such a neutral stance in regards to child exploitation. I don't agree with Freenet's statement, and I won't participate. Child porn is exploits and harms innocent children. Dismissing child porn as a simple "freedom of speech" it completely ignores rights of the victim. Child pornographers should to be burned alive.
If someone drugged you, raped you, took pictures of the rape, do they automatically have the right to put distribute those photos on the Internet? What about your rights?
Hey, I don't have one of those shirts and the site is down... could you put it up on BitTorrent?
Of course, with the SHA-0 cracked, how much time do we have left before we see modified binaries having the same checksum?
One of the major advantages of a p2p network is that if the file is good, there will be more people seeding & peering it.
If it's a legit distro distributed from a legit source, more people will seed and peer the file.
If it's a hacked distro, more people will find out and fewer people will seed and peer the file, and it will be harder to distribute.
This isn't always the case however-- before Farenheit 9/11 came out, there were a number of 700MB spoof video files with the title "Farenheit 9/11", and they were being mirrored pretty heavily...
Will we ever see a Mozilla suite composed of Firefox and Thunderbird to keep it all simple?
What are the reasons for keeping two different project sets going at the same time? More and more it seems like the Mozilla Suite is becoming the "Legacy Trunk", and Firebox & Thunderbird are the next-generation R&D releases.
It seems if we could dedicate more developers to a single development tree, it would be more efficient? Just one primary development trunk, no need to sync in changes from Firefox/Thunderbird -> Mozilla and from Mozilla -> Firefox/Thunderbird.
I was wondering how I was going to screw in that lightbulb...
Mount Saint Helens Behaving Oddly
Hmmm... mountain, spewing smoke and ash... that's not odd. Nothing to see here folks!
It all gets paid for by federal grants.
Hm, I wonder how many of these people moved out to the country because they wanted to "get the government off their backs", or were looking for lower taxes...
Microsoft may charge extra for security software.
Spyware companies around the globe say not to worry, because the spyware itself will remain free!
Hey, let's kick them!
You ever kick the balls of an 800 pound gorilla?
Knowledgeable users know this and make use of hardware and software firewalls, antivirus apps and spyware detection apps.
"Sure, I leave the front door to my house unlocked, but I keep the bedroom door locked".
You should stop the problem before it reaches the OS, not apply bandaid solutions after the fact.
Interesting, doesn't happen to me (I get one popup). This is IE6 with XPSP2 using the Google Toolbar on and off
So what do I do? I'm currently studying for an MBA.
You and half the ex-dotcommers are studying for an MBA.
Once you get your MBA, and get a job using that MBA, come back and talk to us about the job market.
All the "maintenance" jobs in the world can move overseas, but you still need people back at home making the decisions. I'll become one of those.
What makes you think that many of the decision makers won't also be outsourced?
One of the major problems with outsourcing is the really poor communication resulting from the differences in languages and thought processes , time differences, etc. It's much easier when everyone works in the same room, and can go over the spec on the same whiteboard
Many of the decision-making people will also be outsourced.