The whole idea of word-of-mouth is that it has some honesty that's not been tarnished by commercial interests. This word-of-mouth marketting association is one more reason to dislike unashamed capitalism that seeks to milk out everything.
Just out of curiosity, is this the first time in our history that a group of workers have put themselves out of business by collectively creating tools to put themselves out of business?
I really would like to hear an unbiased, unemotional discussion of what effect open source has on this issue.
I know quite a few English and History majors that were pulling in $100,000+ per year two years out of college as analysts for Wall Street firms.
I too know a few who did such leisurely degrees and partied their time through college and ended up in such fancy and seemingly-unrelated jobs, but the ones I know were invariably from privileged backgrounds and had influential family connections.
I personally do not find it realistic or fair in my experience to recommend that someone from a deprived or working class background consider English and History and expect the same treatment after graduation.
Except that a large number of universities receive state and federal money. I don't even think they're trying to track progress within college; I think it's moreso that they want to see which high schools are actually getting students enrolled and graduated from college. There's currently no way to do this, so there's no metrics for high school achievement. Look, you clearly don't understand, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I know this because I have had the professional experience that made me actively exposed to such tactics and in fact had some training necessary to use them; the educational metrics are no more than a selling point, and its function is no more than persuasive.
So you get online with your unpatched, fresh install of XP, and you get it all up to date over a day from windowsupdate, and what's more you install spyware S&D and adaware, and nod32 antivirus and prevx, and whatever else. Are you telling me that my system is compromised already eventhough those scanning and cleaning programs tell me that it's clean?
Here's my conspiracy theory of the day; "drop everything: We're going to Mars" is just a distraction to screw those atheist astrophycists who are dabbling in things they shouldn't (origin of universe etc).
People have been saying this same stuff for decades. It's not happened yet and probably won't anytime soon. The US and Europe are still far ahead of much of Asia in terms of prosperity and welfare of their citizens.
It'd be cheaper and better to just buy current tech. I think one should be opposed to the abuses of intellectual property, not to intellectual property per se.
Disclaimer: I'm a supporter of Turkey's EU membership, but I'm an even greater supporter of free speech.
The EU has a most astounding framework for expansion and could evolve into the most prosperous, free, fair and powerful unit on Earth. The experience so far is that the countries that had EU aspirations have experienced enormous reforms. In the UK I can vouch that the effects of EU directives have been very positive on updating the UK's victorian era traditions into a more civil modernity. The effects of debate over how the EU should be and what a nation needs to join are even more pronounced if you look at countries in Eastern Europe. With the US recently degrading in terms of fundementalist fervour, loss of liberties, economic mismanagement and so on the UK represents the best hope of humanity in the decades and centuries to come. I know that those in charge at the EU not only want Turkey to join, and undergo the process of reforms necessary for it to be an eligible member, but they also want Russia too to undergo the same reforms and eventually join. With that you'd have a political unit stretching from the Pacific in the Far East to the Atlantic in the west and bordering countries from Japan to Morocco. In fact, I would love to see the EU take over the Middle East and North Africa too after reforming them, because after all, the two regions have always been related with Europe from the Romans to the Ottomans. It's not far-fetched, it's actually very plausible; reform to these humane ideals, and you can join. That would be greater than the USA, USSR, or any past Empire.
Microdrives are notoriously unreliable and somewhat expensive, i'd rather just use tape. In fact, for the price of a single 4gb microdrive you can get too many tapes. It also uses compressed video, whereas tape is a higher quality video.
I did just that many years ago working as a junior doctor in a UK hospital. It wasn't every week, but it happened regularly, perhaps every 2 or 4 weeks, and other weeks were all over 80 hours. Now seeing that the UK is starting to adopt the EU directives that doctors should not work any more than 56 hours per week, I say thank civility!
But guess what, just a couple of days ago someone hinted that they believed unless you worked that much or that hard you don't learn enough or gain enough experience. I put politeness aside and emphatically said "that's nonsense!". Of course, that person never had the pleasure of working more than 56 hours per week, and unfortunately when I was young and just out of medschool it was common procedure that you had to work cruel hours.
I firmly believe that it should be illegal for an employer to force an employee to work more than a set amount per week. Especially so when the employee is young and needy. I think the Europeans have it right at 56 hours for certain professions, though I'm aware that some have it at 48 and others have it at 35. If you're working for yourself then fine, work till you drop if you want.
You'll probably hear many nonsense arguments about productivity and competitiveness. well, I recall hearing that reducing the working hours of French firms under their legislation had the effect of increasing their productivity, because they just had to become more efficient and focused. There should be limits; limits to corporate greed, to inconsiderate and abusive management, and to the notion that the more you enslave your workers and milk the life out of them the more you profit.
Their website looks very Christian, has the declaration of "standing up for what I believe".
I saw this story before it was posted on slashdot, and my conclusion that, as usual, the extremists of opinion are about to strangle each other, and moderation is hardly represented.
Doug Chapin, a nonpartisan election analyst, finds the claims to be baseless. "There were no problems that would lead me to believe that there were stolen elections or widespread fraud," he said.
What exactly is his methodology and how did he draw his conclusions? and who examined his data and methods?
What's wrong with you? Jobs and war and the economy aren't as important so making sure two dudes can't get married.
These freakin' liberals, man. No freakin' priorities.
Ha ha ha. Mod this guy up, please, he's right on it!
What I'm attempting to communicate is that Sun seems to have an incoherent position with regards to Linux and Open Source. It's a question of posturing and image - IBM certainly hasn't open sourced all of their crown jewels, and yet are seen as friendlier to the open source world. "Seen" - it's, as I keep repeating, a matter of perception.
It's a matter of mass idiocy among the linux crowd, and I wholeheartedly hate them for that. I really do get the idea that no matter what Sun does and no matter how much it gives, and it's given a whole lot, some people in the Linux community deserve dust in their faces, and no more than that.
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How did this get modded insightful? "science" has several centuries of established methodology behind it. Truly stupid argument!
Recently I have noticed many "stories" submitted on slashdot that have a blatantly clear 'hidden agendas'.
The problem is that the anonymous coward who submitted the "story" probably has an agenda against Sun.
The whole idea of word-of-mouth is that it has some honesty that's not been tarnished by commercial interests. This word-of-mouth marketting association is one more reason to dislike unashamed capitalism that seeks to milk out everything.
Just out of curiosity, is this the first time in our history that a group of workers have put themselves out of business by collectively creating tools to put themselves out of business?
I really would like to hear an unbiased, unemotional discussion of what effect open source has on this issue.
I know quite a few English and History majors that were pulling in $100,000+ per year two years out of college as analysts for Wall Street firms.
I too know a few who did such leisurely degrees and partied their time through college and ended up in such fancy and seemingly-unrelated jobs, but the ones I know were invariably from privileged backgrounds and had influential family connections.
I personally do not find it realistic or fair in my experience to recommend that someone from a deprived or working class background consider English and History and expect the same treatment after graduation.
Except that a large number of universities receive state and federal money. I don't even think they're trying to track progress within college; I think it's moreso that they want to see which high schools are actually getting students enrolled and graduated from college. There's currently no way to do this, so there's no metrics for high school achievement.
Look, you clearly don't understand, and I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I know this because I have had the professional experience that made me actively exposed to such tactics and in fact had some training necessary to use them; the educational metrics are no more than a selling point, and its function is no more than persuasive.
So you get online with your unpatched, fresh install of XP, and you get it all up to date over a day from windowsupdate, and what's more you install spyware S&D and adaware, and nod32 antivirus and prevx, and whatever else. Are you telling me that my system is compromised already eventhough those scanning and cleaning programs tell me that it's clean?
What's the big cursive "W"?
I can't figure it out.
Here's my conspiracy theory of the day; "drop everything: We're going to Mars" is just a distraction to screw those atheist astrophycists who are dabbling in things they shouldn't (origin of universe etc).
Shut them up, those big bangers.
People have been saying this same stuff for decades. It's not happened yet and probably won't anytime soon. The US and Europe are still far ahead of much of Asia in terms of prosperity and welfare of their citizens.
It'd be cheaper and better to just buy current tech. I think one should be opposed to the abuses of intellectual property, not to intellectual property per se.
Disclaimer: I'm a supporter of Turkey's EU membership, but I'm an even greater supporter of free speech.
The EU has a most astounding framework for expansion and could evolve into the most prosperous, free, fair and powerful unit on Earth. The experience so far is that the countries that had EU aspirations have experienced enormous reforms. In the UK I can vouch that the effects of EU directives have been very positive on updating the UK's victorian era traditions into a more civil modernity. The effects of debate over how the EU should be and what a nation needs to join are even more pronounced if you look at countries in Eastern Europe. With the US recently degrading in terms of fundementalist fervour, loss of liberties, economic mismanagement and so on the UK represents the best hope of humanity in the decades and centuries to come. I know that those in charge at the EU not only want Turkey to join, and undergo the process of reforms necessary for it to be an eligible member, but they also want Russia too to undergo the same reforms and eventually join. With that you'd have a political unit stretching from the Pacific in the Far East to the Atlantic in the west and bordering countries from Japan to Morocco. In fact, I would love to see the EU take over the Middle East and North Africa too after reforming them, because after all, the two regions have always been related with Europe from the Romans to the Ottomans. It's not far-fetched, it's actually very plausible; reform to these humane ideals, and you can join. That would be greater than the USA, USSR, or any past Empire.
I wholeheartedly support the EU.
Skype + Kazaa = profit!!!
Microdrives are notoriously unreliable and somewhat expensive, i'd rather just use tape. In fact, for the price of a single 4gb microdrive you can get too many tapes. It also uses compressed video, whereas tape is a higher quality video.
Unless you fight back spammers they'll just take over all the bandwidth available. I support lycos.
showing that good user interfaces are not beyond the means of free and open software development
Firefox
I did just that many years ago working as a junior doctor in a UK hospital. It wasn't every week, but it happened regularly, perhaps every 2 or 4 weeks, and other weeks were all over 80 hours. Now seeing that the UK is starting to adopt the EU directives that doctors should not work any more than 56 hours per week, I say thank civility!
But guess what, just a couple of days ago someone hinted that they believed unless you worked that much or that hard you don't learn enough or gain enough experience. I put politeness aside and emphatically said "that's nonsense!". Of course, that person never had the pleasure of working more than 56 hours per week, and unfortunately when I was young and just out of medschool it was common procedure that you had to work cruel hours.
I firmly believe that it should be illegal for an employer to force an employee to work more than a set amount per week. Especially so when the employee is young and needy. I think the Europeans have it right at 56 hours for certain professions, though I'm aware that some have it at 48 and others have it at 35. If you're working for yourself then fine, work till you drop if you want.
You'll probably hear many nonsense arguments about productivity and competitiveness. well, I recall hearing that reducing the working hours of French firms under their legislation had the effect of increasing their productivity, because they just had to become more efficient and focused. There should be limits; limits to corporate greed, to inconsiderate and abusive management, and to the notion that the more you enslave your workers and milk the life out of them the more you profit.
The guy in the Full Metal Jacket movie said it was possible.
When I was in junior surgical training, my senior got pooped on by an old lady as he examined her.
Their website looks very Christian, has the declaration of "standing up for what I believe".
I saw this story before it was posted on slashdot, and my conclusion that, as usual, the extremists of opinion are about to strangle each other, and moderation is hardly represented.
Doug Chapin, a nonpartisan election analyst, finds the claims to be baseless. "There were no problems that would lead me to believe that there were stolen elections or widespread fraud," he said.
What exactly is his methodology and how did he draw his conclusions? and who examined his data and methods?
What's wrong with you? Jobs and war and the economy aren't as important so making sure two dudes can't get married. These freakin' liberals, man. No freakin' priorities.
Ha ha ha. Mod this guy up, please, he's right on it!
What I'm attempting to communicate is that Sun seems to have an incoherent position with regards to Linux and Open Source. It's a question of posturing and image - IBM certainly hasn't open sourced all of their crown jewels, and yet are seen as friendlier to the open source world. "Seen" - it's, as I keep repeating, a matter of perception.
It's a matter of mass idiocy among the linux crowd, and I wholeheartedly hate them for that. I really do get the idea that no matter what Sun does and no matter how much it gives, and it's given a whole lot, some people in the Linux community deserve dust in their faces, and no more than that.
I first read that as "Yahoo! now using donkeys" to deliver mail