Well to many people, Windows is BETTER than any of the alternatives.
If linux was better for me I would use it.
Microsoft is trying to make a product that is best for a large number of users, it has to make certain sacrifices along the way to acomplish these goals, sacrifices linux doesn't have to make. Truth is Microsoft probably doesn't care about Linux community in general because the cost of accomodating the demographic would be higher than the profit return.
If anything we're probably seeing the natural equilibrium in software right now. No customer is going unsold and every company (well except for linux of course) is making money. In order to "steal" users from one group say Firefox users, Microsoft would have to expend more money than they would get in return. As soon as this is no longer the case, you'll see MS's massive machinery move embrace the profitable demographic.
Remember... there are "no linux vulnerabilities". Linux doesn't need AV software, because thanks to it's magical Open source development it's infinitely more secure.
The allurement of Linux has never been an easy to use, intuitive Desktop OS. The only people who usually purchase linux are either A) Broke, bought a PC through Walmart and are planning on pirating a copy of Windows. B) Technologically inclined and downloaded the lastest kernel from a university FTP. C)Are essentially group B but like the convenience and fancy packaging.
A) doesn't matter, they're just using Linux
B,C) Were wanting just linux anyway.
I see no threat to Linux from MacOSx86. However it will be interesting to see the battle on BitTorrent Trackers between Windows and OSx.
Steve Jobs and Bill Gates weren't just drop outs who got a free ride because it was easy to get into the "biz". They both suceeded because they were at the time able to work (with very little reward) long, hard hours to produce a product without a customer.
This same ability exists today. The barriers that exist now are inconsequential compared to those for a computer engineer 30 years ago. For one it is now respected as a notable enterprise beyond simply counting census reports.
Look at Google. With very little capital, lots of know how and a great deal of luck they created a new phenomenon.
Competance is always sought out. As the number of applicants increases so does the difficulty in weeding out the quality. As such companies can usually 'filter' garbage applications with somewhat draconian requirements (Such as degree or years of job experience). However few requirements are absolutes, if you provide a killer resume, proof of experience and competance and an ability to set yourself above the rest I don't know of a company that will turn down your application because of some arbitrary HR requirement.
Shouldn't hackers be targeting Mozaic more than any other browser. I don't know, I'm not up to date on Moazaic security patches, maybe it was too simple to need one, but it would seem to be easier to simply hack mozaic than IE.
...innovation is rarely the idea. Innovation is creating somthing people can use. What is that commercial I keep seeing on TV. "We dont' make the X we make X better."
Microsoft has made all of its money from creating a user platform that works. Not from innovating.
Look at smart displays. Nothing more than extension of lots of innovations. But a very cool implementation.
That is the attitude the linux community should have. Because its an accurate description of the current state of linux. Just don't waste my time with daily Slashdot headlines about Microsoft trembling in their boots because linux is poised to conquer the world.
Linux is good enough for what it is used for. The entire point of this news item was that, as a server app, Linux was done and that it needs more stability and less baggage.
All I'm saying is linux will never succeed in the world of users beyond engineers if there isn't a fundamental shift in attitude. Its this attitude that Open Office slightly embraced momentarily. Its the attitude Firefox has embraced to great success, and that is putting the user ahead of the engineering.
"The one thing I've never liked about the GPL was that it gave the same rights to a for-profit business as to a fellow hobbyist. I'm more than glad to share my code with a fellow, who like me, is coding for the love of it. I'm a bit less happy to share with someone who just sees my uncompensated work as a way for him to parasite off it."
The attitude that keeps linux from ever suceeding.
Linux: Software by engineers, for engineers. Coding for the love of coding creates software that solves interesting engineering/programming challenges, but doesn't produce profitable, productive software.
If the hobbyists want Linux to take off, they better start listening to their 'customers.
Really? You have a little computer implanted in your head that lets you access google 24/7. I would say during my day I only have access to google during my waking hours at about 25%.
I have internet at home. But half of my classes don't have computers within 1 yard of my head. When I'm driving, I have no way to talk to google and ask it a question easily. When I'm in a restraunt I don't have a wifi tablet PC. Even if I did, I doubt the location would have wifi access.
Google access is far from being 24/7 in the everyday life.
Can you imagine what we could do with PDF textbooks and tablet PCs. Imagine 3d diagrams that could be rotated on the page. One textbook. One notepad. No handouts. I think we could see significan savings from a school that goes paperless/Tablet.
I would like to know how 24/7 google would change education. I think we would have to rethink education for the modern world.
Open source will always be "By engineers for engineers". In order for a project to get development, an engineer has to be interested in it. There are vast arenas of software where the engineering puzzle is mundane but the product is interesting. I also don't see Open Source spending vast quantities of money to do market research to design a product for a customer. Servers and Open source go in hand because the software is only used by engineers.
Exactly. Right now many small shops sell computers with illegitimate software. The user may take the computer home flush it and replace it with a pirated XP, but microsoft still sold a copy of the starter edition at the point of sale. Every penny counts.
Wow... that was hillarious. Is this Microsoft responding to Linux? Hahahaahahahaahah! Ohhh sorry.... this is worthy of Troll points.
Lets see. People can either A) download windows or B) download linux with little risk of any sort of legal danger. Windows is common, friendly, and well marketed. Linux is thorny, obscure and difficult to install.
This is clearly a shot at offering a low cost alternative to piracy. Or at least somting to point at if asked what they did to try and fight piracy.
While Brazil isn't a third-world despot it like most of this planet has a large population of citizens unable to afford a full price Windows. They will either pirate it or buy it 1 or 2 might actually try linux.
Not true at all. The company doesn't own a patent on all vibrating human interface devices, just some clever little tactics to make things shake. If you ever used a first generation rumble controller, you would know what I'm talking about. This company has been working for along time on techniques to make controllers that don't just numb your hand. I used to despise any sort of 'force feedback' controllers, but now (in part thanks to this company) they're actually an enjoyable feature.
ILM also uses *nix for all of their capturing... it was a win win for *nix. I'm still not sure exactly why most slashdotters would be interested in most of the digital cinema developments. But hey it had the word linux in it so it must be relevant to their needs.
Haha I'm refering to the stigma of (True story) going into a goodwill and paying for a 60 cent purchase with a CC. You get a very very dirty look. Using CCs for small payments has become not only a business issue but also a social one. What would you think of the guy in front of you if he bought just a pack of gum with a CC. Probably pretty negative. Enter the social stigma.
Not true. Give me 100 bucks in cash. I will lose 50 of it with in the first week. I will blow 25 dollars on impulse buys, 10 bucks will be borrowed by a friend and never repayed and the last 15 will fall into the cracks of my couch to be eaten by money gnomes.
There is a stigma to making extremely small purchases with CCs, and that seems to be where I spend all of my cash.
"DO NOT give up your rights to privacy to get your net connection back. No matter if you did nothing illegal. If you give up your privacy, then you justify it to the administration that it is ok for them to do the same thing to other students."
Says the person with internet access. While I would stand up for my principles on just about any case. Sometimes you just need to swallow your pride and make a demonstration of goodwill. While I highly doubt his computer is clean, it's easy stand up for privacy when you still have internet access to a web forum.
If anything, submitting to a search would only reinforce to the network admins that the Bittorrent in certain unusual circumstances isn't a portal of legal sin. Perhaps before he harassed another student he would stop and remember that case where someone was innocent. IF everyone you penalize is guilty you get alot more flagrant in your enforcement, if people beging to show up innocent, then you have to stop and think before every incident.
Submit to the search (which hasn't even been presented as an option). Make them think twice before labeling a protocall illegal.
Hehe I think I would submit to a strip search if that's what it took to get my internet back.
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Well to many people, Windows is BETTER than any of the alternatives.
If linux was better for me I would use it.
Microsoft is trying to make a product that is best for a large number of users, it has to make certain sacrifices along the way to acomplish these goals, sacrifices linux doesn't have to make. Truth is Microsoft probably doesn't care about Linux community in general because the cost of accomodating the demographic would be higher than the profit return.
If anything we're probably seeing the natural equilibrium in software right now. No customer is going unsold and every company (well except for linux of course) is making money. In order to "steal" users from one group say Firefox users, Microsoft would have to expend more money than they would get in return. As soon as this is no longer the case, you'll see MS's massive machinery move embrace the profitable demographic.
Remember... there are "no linux vulnerabilities". Linux doesn't need AV software, because thanks to it's magical Open source development it's infinitely more secure.
The allurement of Linux has never been an easy to use, intuitive Desktop OS. The only people who usually purchase linux are either A) Broke, bought a PC through Walmart and are planning on pirating a copy of Windows. B) Technologically inclined and downloaded the lastest kernel from a university FTP. C)Are essentially group B but like the convenience and fancy packaging.
A) doesn't matter, they're just using Linux
B,C) Were wanting just linux anyway.
I see no threat to Linux from MacOSx86. However it will be interesting to see the battle on BitTorrent Trackers between Windows and OSx.
Steve Jobs and Bill Gates weren't just drop outs who got a free ride because it was easy to get into the "biz". They both suceeded because they were at the time able to work (with very little reward) long, hard hours to produce a product without a customer.
This same ability exists today. The barriers that exist now are inconsequential compared to those for a computer engineer 30 years ago. For one it is now respected as a notable enterprise beyond simply counting census reports.
Look at Google. With very little capital, lots of know how and a great deal of luck they created a new phenomenon.
Competance is always sought out. As the number of applicants increases so does the difficulty in weeding out the quality. As such companies can usually 'filter' garbage applications with somewhat draconian requirements (Such as degree or years of job experience). However few requirements are absolutes, if you provide a killer resume, proof of experience and competance and an ability to set yourself above the rest I don't know of a company that will turn down your application because of some arbitrary HR requirement.
... A study recently showed that at least 16% of the population has stopped opening *.vb files in emails.
Shouldn't hackers be targeting Mozaic more than any other browser. I don't know, I'm not up to date on Moazaic security patches, maybe it was too simple to need one, but it would seem to be easier to simply hack mozaic than IE.
Compared to Linux 64 bit driver support, this is version 2.0.
...$10 billion dollars is wasted every year in the IT industry by people reading brain dead slashdot headlines.
...innovation is rarely the idea. Innovation is creating somthing people can use. What is that commercial I keep seeing on TV. "We dont' make the X we make X better." Microsoft has made all of its money from creating a user platform that works. Not from innovating. Look at smart displays. Nothing more than extension of lots of innovations. But a very cool implementation.
That is the attitude the linux community should have. Because its an accurate description of the current state of linux. Just don't waste my time with daily Slashdot headlines about Microsoft trembling in their boots because linux is poised to conquer the world.
Linux is good enough for what it is used for. The entire point of this news item was that, as a server app, Linux was done and that it needs more stability and less baggage.
All I'm saying is linux will never succeed in the world of users beyond engineers if there isn't a fundamental shift in attitude. Its this attitude that Open Office slightly embraced momentarily. Its the attitude Firefox has embraced to great success, and that is putting the user ahead of the engineering.
"The one thing I've never liked about the GPL was that it gave the same rights to a for-profit business as to a fellow hobbyist. I'm more than glad to share my code with a fellow, who like me, is coding for the love of it. I'm a bit less happy to share with someone who just sees my uncompensated work as a way for him to parasite off it."
The attitude that keeps linux from ever suceeding.
Linux: Software by engineers, for engineers. Coding for the love of coding creates software that solves interesting engineering/programming challenges, but doesn't produce profitable, productive software.
If the hobbyists want Linux to take off, they better start listening to their 'customers.
Really? You have a little computer implanted in your head that lets you access google 24/7. I would say during my day I only have access to google during my waking hours at about 25%.
I have internet at home. But half of my classes don't have computers within 1 yard of my head. When I'm driving, I have no way to talk to google and ask it a question easily. When I'm in a restraunt I don't have a wifi tablet PC. Even if I did, I doubt the location would have wifi access.
Google access is far from being 24/7 in the everyday life.
Can you imagine what we could do with PDF textbooks and tablet PCs. Imagine 3d diagrams that could be rotated on the page. One textbook. One notepad. No handouts. I think we could see significan savings from a school that goes paperless/Tablet. I would like to know how 24/7 google would change education. I think we would have to rethink education for the modern world.
Open source will always be "By engineers for engineers". In order for a project to get development, an engineer has to be interested in it. There are vast arenas of software where the engineering puzzle is mundane but the product is interesting. I also don't see Open Source spending vast quantities of money to do market research to design a product for a customer. Servers and Open source go in hand because the software is only used by engineers.
Exactly. Right now many small shops sell computers with illegitimate software. The user may take the computer home flush it and replace it with a pirated XP, but microsoft still sold a copy of the starter edition at the point of sale. Every penny counts.
Wow... that was hillarious. Is this Microsoft responding to Linux? Hahahaahahahaahah! Ohhh sorry.... this is worthy of Troll points. Lets see. People can either A) download windows or B) download linux with little risk of any sort of legal danger. Windows is common, friendly, and well marketed. Linux is thorny, obscure and difficult to install. This is clearly a shot at offering a low cost alternative to piracy. Or at least somting to point at if asked what they did to try and fight piracy. While Brazil isn't a third-world despot it like most of this planet has a large population of citizens unable to afford a full price Windows. They will either pirate it or buy it 1 or 2 might actually try linux.
Sure another jab at Microsoft. How original Taco. Don't you have real news to report.
Not true at all. The company doesn't own a patent on all vibrating human interface devices, just some clever little tactics to make things shake. If you ever used a first generation rumble controller, you would know what I'm talking about. This company has been working for along time on techniques to make controllers that don't just numb your hand. I used to despise any sort of 'force feedback' controllers, but now (in part thanks to this company) they're actually an enjoyable feature.
ILM also uses *nix for all of their capturing... it was a win win for *nix. I'm still not sure exactly why most slashdotters would be interested in most of the digital cinema developments. But hey it had the word linux in it so it must be relevant to their needs.
Haha I'm refering to the stigma of (True story) going into a goodwill and paying for a 60 cent purchase with a CC. You get a very very dirty look. Using CCs for small payments has become not only a business issue but also a social one. What would you think of the guy in front of you if he bought just a pack of gum with a CC. Probably pretty negative. Enter the social stigma.
Not true. Give me 100 bucks in cash. I will lose 50 of it with in the first week. I will blow 25 dollars on impulse buys, 10 bucks will be borrowed by a friend and never repayed and the last 15 will fall into the cracks of my couch to be eaten by money gnomes. There is a stigma to making extremely small purchases with CCs, and that seems to be where I spend all of my cash.
"DO NOT give up your rights to privacy to get your net connection back. No matter if you did nothing illegal. If you give up your privacy, then you justify it to the administration that it is ok for them to do the same thing to other students."
Says the person with internet access. While I would stand up for my principles on just about any case. Sometimes you just need to swallow your pride and make a demonstration of goodwill. While I highly doubt his computer is clean, it's easy stand up for privacy when you still have internet access to a web forum.
If anything, submitting to a search would only reinforce to the network admins that the Bittorrent in certain unusual circumstances isn't a portal of legal sin. Perhaps before he harassed another student he would stop and remember that case where someone was innocent. IF everyone you penalize is guilty you get alot more flagrant in your enforcement, if people beging to show up innocent, then you have to stop and think before every incident.
Submit to the search (which hasn't even been presented as an option). Make them think twice before labeling a protocall illegal.
Hehe I think I would submit to a strip search if that's what it took to get my internet back.
I'm sure this student has no pirated files on his computer.
There are legal uses for bittorrent? ;)
I find rent, food and tuition rediculous, but I still pay for them. Since when was anything of worth free?