The point is that I'm glad that it works for MS, its been working for other people/groups/companies for decades, in several forms... I just hope that this example of how well it works will inspire banks to follow the example
this is a story about how MS is doing security... however, 2 factor authentication has been in use for decades, even before computers became the common day things they are today. In the military, I've seen where it takes 3 people and two keys just to open a door to a secured space. The tech is new, and hopefully now that MS is telling people that is how they do things, perhaps banks and other people with my personal information stored up will start doing the same??? sigh
Li-Poly batteries have been around awhile. Hobbyists were the first I know to use them. I don't know that they have improved in safety issues over the last few years, but perhaps you should see the following example of a li-poly flame out before buying li-poly batteries?
someone needs to remind him of the little 'botnet' problem that is currently going around. Sure, pan global networks are a good thing, and will bring us good thing... BUT the only thing they are bringing us right now is SPAM, SPAM, and more SPAM.
Sure, there is Google and eBay et al, but look at the reality of things... all that really needs to happen to stop the world is for 2 of those 5 computers to be infested with spam spewing botnets.
I think that the world is as ready as I am for that to happen... lets just shelve this cute idea before the botnet owners get word of it
People who manage and run data centers have to think it through before making changes. Many servers that are more than a year old were not designed for energy efficiencies. To top that, they weren't designed to take advantage of natural efficiencies in telecomms data centers. Most telecomms equipment is designed to run off of -48VDC. This has the effect of reducing the number of wasteful 115VAC to DC conversions along with the subsequent losses to heat that have to be removed by A/C systems. I've seen estimates that show the possibility of up to a 35% reduction in power and A/C costs simply by converting the AC power supplies in servers to DC power supplies.
Additionally, much of the forced air (from the floor upwards) A/C systems I've seen in data centers is not configured properly. There are vented tiles in places they shouldn't be, and not where they should be... causing hotspots and A/C problems in general.
I see datacenters with a wide variety of rack types. This can work, but often leads to inefficient use of the A/C systems. Its expensive to change racks, if its even possible (some vendors don't like their kit in someone else's rack) but this problem also needs to be looked at. A/C accounts for a huge energy drain in datacenters.
Using older hardware rather than buying new hardware saves on the short term, but the savings in energy costs by buying newer, more efficient hardware is something that datacenter managers HAVE to look at if this problem is to be solved. Its not just a matter of being 'green'. Its a matter of saving money that can then be used to bolster other parts/systems of the company.
I think that we'll see Google et al running VM clusters soon, where unused servers in the cluster are shutdown till they are needed for heavier traffic. In much the same way that complex automotive engines shut off several cylinders during low power requirement times, servers can be shut down (sleep mode) to save power until they are needed.
These are just some of the ideas that are currently the talk of datacenter managers and the vendors who support them. Try perusing the APC website, or other datacenter vendor's websites.
More clueless people trying to make rules for systems that they have no idea how it works....
First, Didn't the neo-nazi youths have this title all wrapped up before there were violent games? Kidding aside, this is just another stupid knee jerk reaction to social problems that nobody wants to take the blame for.
When I was a kid, we played with toy guns, king of the hill, kill-the-guy-with-the-ball, and other VIOLENT games... It wasn't until they banned 'red rover' that this sort of bad finger pointing started to happen...
FerChrisSakes - lets blame everyone and everything but the parents and families of violent kids...
Is this yet another case of clueless people trying to create rules for systems that they have no idea of how it functions?
While the intent is good, I'm rather suspect of people who think this is full-proof, and look forward (mockingly) to the future when people think their kids are safe from predators because MySpace is tracking KNOWN sex offenders by their REGISTERED email addresses.
Wow, why don't we just do this with terrorists? Then we'd know where they are and what they are doing all the time, just have to log onto the gov. website to find out....
This is the same problem with all kinds of security systems/programs. How does one point out the error/flaws in said system without falling afoul of the law(s)?
In this case, he would have been better off just telling people it could be done IMO. Just the same, if Kazaa isn't guilty, how can this guy be held responsible for what people did with his demonstration? If he personally used the fake boarding passes to fly and thus circumvent TSA rules, then he's guilty, should be punished. To demonstrate that its possible doesn't make him guilty. Even making it possible for others to do so doesn't make him guilty of anything except making the TSA look stupid.
Printing counterfeit money is not illegal... using it is. Normally, nobody would print it without the intent of using it, but in this case, the whole effort was to prove that it could be done and show that a fake boarding pass ruins security measures. If he can print fake boarding passes, any reasonably savvy group can. The manner used to demonstrate this flaw surely makes it impossible to not fix the problem?
So... accountability in voting will be a joke for the foreseeable future because it costs too much?
Yes, its expensive and will remain a joke, not because its expensive, but because politicians want it to be expensive to fix the joke that helps them win elections....
FTFA: "The dubious marketing tactics did not end there. Secure Computer also sold its product using pop-up ads which warned users that their computers might be infected with spyware, and it offered them a free system scan. The results of the scan were invariably positive. "Our investigation found that this so-called free scan always detected spyware, even on a clean computer," said Senior Counsel Paula Selis, who led the state investigation. "In order to remove this falsely detected spyware, users were instructed to pay $49.95 for the full version of Spyware Cleaner." It is illegal under Washington law to "induce a computer user to download software by falsely claiming the software is necessary for security purposes," she added."
I was kind of tired of seeing stuff like they used....
Does anyone know if Christian music lovers are in the demographic of illegal file downloaders? Christians are supposed to be honest and pay for stuff anyway, right? Just how big a risk is this little online venture?
If these files start showing up on P2P lists, what does that say about us all?
While culture has a lot to do with the current problems, there are other things that need to be looked at: There are hobbyists that practically have made themselves into scientists, dedicating much of their spare time at learning new things and trying new things. Imagine a guy with a hobby that can launch scientific payloads into the upper atmosphere? Yes, that is right, upper atmosphere. Imagine a group of kids that are building robots that can help deal with IED's?
Part of the problem is that such studies and people often only look at academia for the results and the answers. I can tell you that if you spend your money with people that WANT to solve problems and do things just because... well, you're going to get some good research. If there were tax cuts for commercial support of such things, it would create more research funding at all levels.
Okay, that sounds optimistic, but there are many hobbyists in North America that are not creating world class projects for the simple lack of funding. The iRobot robots that are being used by the military, police, etc. were basically designed by hobbyists. There is huge efforts by such people that go unnoticed, and uncounted in studies such as this one. Its sad.
VoIP in some countries as well as MP3 audio are just the kind of thing that upsets the apple cart. The apple cart being the status quo tax base. When governments and businesses see that there previously standard revenue stream is being bypassed, they simply have to 'change the laws' to make sure their pork barrel is still fat with money.
The point being: Each new invention based on the Internet will cause trouble somewhere if not everywhere. When a tax revenue is removed, they will move to create a new one or shut off the mechanism that stopped their old tax revenue. This, is blatant evidence that the government bodies as well as industry bodies, are simply not prepared to move with the changes or offer relevant services IAW current technology.
Who do we have to blame for this? All of the government officials that were voted into office, or otherwise. They have BLATANTLY failed to pro-actively represent their constituents.
Yes, I mean that. If they are behind the times by more than 3 months, they are living in and supporting a system that is fundamentally incapable of supporting your business and financial needs in the coming months. It is their ignorance that is now fscking up the finance sector and inhibiting business growth. Lets not even mention how backward governance is incapable of providing appropriate health care at reasonable costs....
Damn, I'm not even liberal and I can see where technological bassackwardness is harming all in the society... sigh
When will we learn? Perhaps we should force congressional electees to watch 500 episodes of star trek?
You delude yourself... to imagine that the artists will move away from what they know simply because what they know was successful???? WTF... only revolution will change what is!
You are almost right. Musicians have to worry about this because they sold their souls to companies that belong to the RIAA or equivelant. They sold out because of the monopoly that the music industry forced on musicians, and now they can't sell directly. The problem IS the RIAA, not just what they wish to be enacted as law. The entire business model of the RIAA is fscked, outdated, and not even compatible with current technologies. Let the RIAA die!
Part of my point is this... there are already copyright laws in effect, and they are effective at producing the desired effect, both 100 years ago and today. What I'm lamenting about is that we are trying to enact new laws to provide the same protection that current or previous laws provided. All that is lacking is effective or efficient enforcement methods.
So, in the end, we are wasting untold resources on re-inventing the wheel as regards copyright. Those that want to extend copyright are only trying to line their pockets, not produce anything close to something that promotes inventiveness or creativeness.
We are still wasting resources for a single industry.... It doesn't take much to apathetically say "let them die on the vine" like buggy whip makers and wagon wheel mechanics....
Their business model is outdated and not EVEN trying to keep up with technology or society... let them die!
Its a shame really that so much of the world is caught up in wasting their time trying to argue with the **AAs of the world, or trying to help them protect their (stolen) products. Why are our governments wasting so much time on this? Could it be that they are all being paid on the hush hush to do so? If that is the case, why don't we revolt?
Seems that stubborn headed ignorance is the rule of the day?
Its a shame... No matter what decision is made, all this time, money, and resource has already been wasted to try to equalize what one industry wants made into law to line their own pockets. Yeah, I know, this is just one industry, but this is the industry that is on topic... its a start if we all, and I mean all, simply stop buying music. See how that suits them. Don't buy any for gifts this year; don't buy any for personal use. They can't possibly prosecute all downloaders, nor could they afford to continue to do so without revenue. We can't all be put in jail...
Okay, that scares the holy fsck out of me. I really don't want any of the quantum bits entangled with my person to be affected by some quantum bits that are currently doing a BSOD!!
Burnout is ages old, in my experience, its been around since before the computer. Now, with the advent of the computer are all kinds of new stresses: Operator overload, ergonomics (is that listed as a real word yet?) and distraction stress etc. ad nauseum.
Previously, neither management or worker knew about ergonomics and distraction stress, then workers knew but couldn't get any support at work, now bosses know... still not much support to rid the workplace of it. AFIK, countries other than the US are well out front in the race to reduce workplace stress.
One of the little known problems in the workplace (not trolling here) is scent! If you are distracted continuously by nasty perfume of co-workers, it causes higher stress levels from everything else. Even the little things have to be taken into account when trying to reduce stresses in the workplace.
There are government agencies and laws to support getting a better workplace environment... its just a big effort to get it implemented without causing huge amounts of more stress.... sigh
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The point is that I'm glad that it works for MS, its been working for other people/groups/companies for decades, in several forms... I just hope that this example of how well it works will inspire banks to follow the example
this is a story about how MS is doing security... however, 2 factor authentication has been in use for decades, even before computers became the common day things they are today. In the military, I've seen where it takes 3 people and two keys just to open a door to a secured space. The tech is new, and hopefully now that MS is telling people that is how they do things, perhaps banks and other people with my personal information stored up will start doing the same??? sigh
Li-Poly batteries have been around awhile. Hobbyists were the first I know to use them. I don't know that they have improved in safety issues over the last few years, but perhaps you should see the following
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example of a li-poly flame out before buying li-poly batteries?
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1
someone needs to remind him of the little 'botnet' problem that is currently going around. Sure, pan global networks are a good thing, and will bring us good thing... BUT the only thing they are bringing us right now is SPAM, SPAM, and more SPAM.
Sure, there is Google and eBay et al, but look at the reality of things... all that really needs to happen to stop the world is for 2 of those 5 computers to be infested with spam spewing botnets.
I think that the world is as ready as I am for that to happen... lets just shelve this cute idea before the botnet owners get word of it
Are we going to start calling them zero-week or zero-month vulnerabilities?
People who manage and run data centers have to think it through before making changes. Many servers that are more than a year old were not designed for energy efficiencies. To top that, they weren't designed to take advantage of natural efficiencies in telecomms data centers. Most telecomms equipment is designed to run off of -48VDC. This has the effect of reducing the number of wasteful 115VAC to DC conversions along with the subsequent losses to heat that have to be removed by A/C systems. I've seen estimates that show the possibility of up to a 35% reduction in power and A/C costs simply by converting the AC power supplies in servers to DC power supplies.
Additionally, much of the forced air (from the floor upwards) A/C systems I've seen in data centers is not configured properly. There are vented tiles in places they shouldn't be, and not where they should be... causing hotspots and A/C problems in general.
I see datacenters with a wide variety of rack types. This can work, but often leads to inefficient use of the A/C systems. Its expensive to change racks, if its even possible (some vendors don't like their kit in someone else's rack) but this problem also needs to be looked at. A/C accounts for a huge energy drain in datacenters.
Using older hardware rather than buying new hardware saves on the short term, but the savings in energy costs by buying newer, more efficient hardware is something that datacenter managers HAVE to look at if this problem is to be solved. Its not just a matter of being 'green'. Its a matter of saving money that can then be used to bolster other parts/systems of the company.
I think that we'll see Google et al running VM clusters soon, where unused servers in the cluster are shutdown till they are needed for heavier traffic. In much the same way that complex automotive engines shut off several cylinders during low power requirement times, servers can be shut down (sleep mode) to save power until they are needed.
These are just some of the ideas that are currently the talk of datacenter managers and the vendors who support them. Try perusing the APC website, or other datacenter vendor's websites.
More clueless people trying to make rules for systems that they have no idea how it works....
First, Didn't the neo-nazi youths have this title all wrapped up before there were violent games?
Kidding aside, this is just another stupid knee jerk reaction to social problems that nobody wants to take the blame for.
When I was a kid, we played with toy guns, king of the hill, kill-the-guy-with-the-ball, and other VIOLENT games...
It wasn't until they banned 'red rover' that this sort of bad finger pointing started to happen...
FerChrisSakes - lets blame everyone and everything but the parents and families of violent kids...
Sheesh
Is this yet another case of clueless people trying to create rules for systems that they have no idea of how it functions?
While the intent is good, I'm rather suspect of people who think this is full-proof, and look forward (mockingly) to the future when people think their kids are safe from predators because MySpace is tracking KNOWN sex offenders by their REGISTERED email addresses.
Wow, why don't we just do this with terrorists? Then we'd know where they are and what they are doing all the time, just have to log onto the gov. website to find out....
if you use a fake boarding pass :-)
This is the same problem with all kinds of security systems/programs. How does one point out the error/flaws in said system without falling afoul of the law(s)?
In this case, he would have been better off just telling people it could be done IMO. Just the same, if Kazaa isn't guilty, how can this guy be held responsible for what people did with his demonstration? If he personally used the fake boarding passes to fly and thus circumvent TSA rules, then he's guilty, should be punished. To demonstrate that its possible doesn't make him guilty. Even making it possible for others to do so doesn't make him guilty of anything except making the TSA look stupid.
Printing counterfeit money is not illegal... using it is. Normally, nobody would print it without the intent of using it, but in this case, the whole effort was to prove that it could be done and show that a fake boarding pass ruins security measures. If he can print fake boarding passes, any reasonably savvy group can. The manner used to demonstrate this flaw surely makes it impossible to not fix the problem?
I hope that he is not slapped with huge fines...
So ... accountability in voting will be a joke for the foreseeable future because it costs too much?
Yes, its expensive and will remain a joke, not because its expensive, but because politicians want it to be expensive to fix the joke that helps them win elections....
FTFA: "The dubious marketing tactics did not end there. Secure Computer also sold its product using pop-up ads which warned users that their computers might be infected with spyware, and it offered them a free system scan. The results of the scan were invariably positive. "Our investigation found that this so-called free scan always detected spyware, even on a clean computer," said Senior Counsel Paula Selis, who led the state investigation. "In order to remove this falsely detected spyware, users were instructed to pay $49.95 for the full version of Spyware Cleaner." It is illegal under Washington law to "induce a computer user to download software by falsely claiming the software is necessary for security purposes," she added."
I was kind of tired of seeing stuff like they used....
They way that MS is behind and doing everything everyone else seems to be doing, how long before we see the official MS Linux distribution?
Does anyone know if Christian music lovers are in the demographic of illegal file downloaders?
Christians are supposed to be honest and pay for stuff anyway, right? Just how big a risk is this little online venture?
If these files start showing up on P2P lists, what does that say about us all?
If you want to put your lunch in front of something, try this: http://www.solardeathray.com/
While culture has a lot to do with the current problems, there are other things that need to be looked at: There are hobbyists that practically have made themselves into scientists, dedicating much of their spare time at learning new things and trying new things. Imagine a guy with a hobby that can launch scientific payloads into the upper atmosphere? Yes, that is right, upper atmosphere. Imagine a group of kids that are building robots that can help deal with IED's?
Part of the problem is that such studies and people often only look at academia for the results and the answers. I can tell you that if you spend your money with people that WANT to solve problems and do things just because... well, you're going to get some good research. If there were tax cuts for commercial support of such things, it would create more research funding at all levels.
Okay, that sounds optimistic, but there are many hobbyists in North America that are not creating world class projects for the simple lack of funding. The iRobot robots that are being used by the military, police, etc. were basically designed by hobbyists. There is huge efforts by such people that go unnoticed, and uncounted in studies such as this one. Its sad.
VoIP in some countries as well as MP3 audio are just the kind of thing that upsets the apple cart. The apple cart being the status quo tax base. When governments and businesses see that there previously standard revenue stream is being bypassed, they simply have to 'change the laws' to make sure their pork barrel is still fat with money.
The point being: Each new invention based on the Internet will cause trouble somewhere if not everywhere. When a tax revenue is removed, they will move to create a new one or shut off the mechanism that stopped their old tax revenue. This, is blatant evidence that the government bodies as well as industry bodies, are simply not prepared to move with the changes or offer relevant services IAW current technology.
Who do we have to blame for this? All of the government officials that were voted into office, or otherwise. They have BLATANTLY failed to pro-actively represent their constituents.
Yes, I mean that. If they are behind the times by more than 3 months, they are living in and supporting a system that is fundamentally incapable of supporting your business and financial needs in the coming months. It is their ignorance that is now fscking up the finance sector and inhibiting business growth. Lets not even mention how backward governance is incapable of providing appropriate health care at reasonable costs....
Damn, I'm not even liberal and I can see where technological bassackwardness is harming all in the society... sigh
When will we learn? Perhaps we should force congressional electees to watch 500 episodes of star trek?
signed: apathetic
of the uninformed to try to control what they have no clue about in order to protect outdated and now irrelevant business models... sigh
You delude yourself... to imagine that the artists will move away from what they know simply because what they know was successful???? WTF... only revolution will change what is!
You are almost right. Musicians have to worry about this because they sold their souls to companies that belong to the RIAA or equivelant. They sold out because of the monopoly that the music industry forced on musicians, and now they can't sell directly. The problem IS the RIAA, not just what they wish to be enacted as law. The entire business model of the RIAA is fscked, outdated, and not even compatible with current technologies. Let the RIAA die!
Part of my point is this... there are already copyright laws in effect, and they are effective at producing the desired effect, both 100 years ago and today. What I'm lamenting about is that we are trying to enact new laws to provide the same protection that current or previous laws provided. All that is lacking is effective or efficient enforcement methods.
So, in the end, we are wasting untold resources on re-inventing the wheel as regards copyright. Those that want to extend copyright are only trying to line their pockets, not produce anything close to something that promotes inventiveness or creativeness.
We are still wasting resources for a single industry.... It doesn't take much to apathetically say "let them die on the vine" like buggy whip makers and wagon wheel mechanics....
Their business model is outdated and not EVEN trying to keep up with technology or society... let them die!
Its a shame really that so much of the world is caught up in wasting their time trying to argue with the **AAs of the world, or trying to help them protect their (stolen) products. Why are our governments wasting so much time on this? Could it be that they are all being paid on the hush hush to do so? If that is the case, why don't we revolt?
Seems that stubborn headed ignorance is the rule of the day?
Its a shame... No matter what decision is made, all this time, money, and resource has already been wasted to try to equalize what one industry wants made into law to line their own pockets. Yeah, I know, this is just one industry, but this is the industry that is on topic... its a start if we all, and I mean all, simply stop buying music. See how that suits them. Don't buy any for gifts this year; don't buy any for personal use. They can't possibly prosecute all downloaders, nor could they afford to continue to do so without revenue. We can't all be put in jail...
signed: frustrated
Okay, that scares the holy fsck out of me. I really don't want any of the quantum bits entangled with my person to be affected by some quantum bits that are currently doing a BSOD!!
Burnout is ages old, in my experience, its been around since before the computer. Now, with the advent of the computer are all kinds of new stresses: Operator overload, ergonomics (is that listed as a real word yet?) and distraction stress etc. ad nauseum.
Previously, neither management or worker knew about ergonomics and distraction stress, then workers knew but couldn't get any support at work, now bosses know... still not much support to rid the workplace of it. AFIK, countries other than the US are well out front in the race to reduce workplace stress.
One of the little known problems in the workplace (not trolling here) is scent! If you are distracted continuously by nasty perfume of co-workers, it causes higher stress levels from everything else. Even the little things have to be taken into account when trying to reduce stresses in the workplace.
There are government agencies and laws to support getting a better workplace environment... its just a big effort to get it implemented without causing huge amounts of more stress.... sigh
"640k spam emails ought to be enough for anyone..."