Tacitus' work was written AD 116; he himself wasn't even born decades after Jesus' alleged death. The passage in question reads:
Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind.
Show me a mention of "Jesus", "Jehoshuah" or anything of the kind. All that Tacitus reports is that, during the great fire of Rome, a group popularly referred to as "Christians" did exist and that their name was tied to a person named "Christus", a common biblical term that means "anointed one" -- which required far less chutzpah to claim than "messiah" (which, at the time, would bring a torches-and-pitchforks mob of their jewish neighbours who haven't been expelled yet).
Jesus most certainly existed. There is plenty of documented proof of that.
Any documentation comes from 2nd century, and is very obviously tainted -- either comes from Christians themselves or is a copy of their works. If a preacher leading a popular movement of anything of the scale postulated in the Bible happened, it would be mentioned in secular sources, which have quite detailed records of those times. Yet, any such mentions are conspicuously absent.
On the other hand, there was a lot of religious kooks (this particular thing hasn't changed...), thus it's possible the story has some basis in truth, but has been mangled beyond recognition.
So, it's like that old Russian joke: "Did you hear that in Moscow they give Volga cars for free?" "Sure, they do, you just got three details wrong. First, not in Moscow but in Leningrad. Second, not Volga cars but Zavmash bikes. Third, they don't give but take away.". Thus, Jesus might indeed have existed, save for some little details...
So multiple murders were alleged but all that was proven was 55 days of kidnapping. I think we have to sentence based on what was proven; for that which was not proven we must not assume guilt.
The penalty in this case wouldn't be meaningfully different, thus bothering to prove anything more would be a waste of taxpayers' money. The law doesn't allow for a prison sentence, merely a fine -- and $120M is enough to bankrupt the culprit into the ground.
Camel Pilot and me argue that it would be reasonable to consider this crime to be on par with multiple murders (as the harm to society is comparable, merely split between many people), but that would require changing the law, and lex retro non agit.
if we take those 80,000 confirmed calls and assume about 1 minute for each, we get about 2 months
The article says 96 million calls; that means 183 years. The agency indeed confirmed only 80000; ie 55 days. It's the equivalent of a battery after which you land in hospital for a few months; victims lost productive awake time while lifespan lost to murder also includes sleep and dementia (observing family members in their 80s-90s, I wouldn't be very sad to lose that time of my life).
Thus, as you say, that hoe squad would be appropriate for what was proven. On the other hand, what was alleged (and within the current law the agency has no reason to bother proving more), I consider the crime to be as harmful as multiple murders, and that it should be punished appropriately.
Since he has aggregately stole or taken away several human lifespans... I say capital punishment would be appropriate.
This. Somehow, people are afraid about travelling by plane but don't think twice before entering a car, despite the chance of dying in the latter being many times higher. Or, they are more than a bit hateful against concentration camp operators while having no ill will against those running a coal power plant, despite the latter causing more deaths and sickness (concentration not death camp, distinction is important!)? A robber who takes a few $150 cell phones can land multiple years in the slammer while a bank executive who deprives millions of their livelihood gets a slap-on-the-wrist fine, if anything at all.
A single spamming or robo call campaign can take multiple life spans from the victims. Let's have the punishment take this into account.
One space. The typewriter is dead, please donâ(TM)t bring two spaces back.
As evidenced by that "â(TM)t", you use a device not equipped with a proper keyboard. For those of us on an actual computer, spaces and readability do matter, thus two spaces help. If such a small detail improves reading speed by a few percent (per the article), that's huge. And besides, one space is a heresy -- I'll bring torches and pitchforks to deal with those who think otherwise.
Things haven't changed much. If you search ancient papyri, I bet there's one from a Hittite prince kidnapped by Mittanian pirates who beseeches help from a kind Egyptian noble such as you who could help pay the ransom and then be handsomely rewarded -- just use this new money transfer service those Phoenician devils invented.
I miss a real email about once a year from SPAM filters in Gmail, and it's usually a shady email. I literally never check my Gmail SPAM just because.
Seriously?
Let's take Linus, he somehow still uses Gmail. I'm too small a fry to send him pull requests, but I did make an April first one. (The mail archive web display mangles UTF-8 but it's correct in the actual mail, pretty vital for this actual patch set.). See Linus' complaint. Here we have correspondence from someone who had just participated in a two-way thread with Linus (something about modversions), the mail is GPG signed by a key one indirect node away, the mail being a well-formed pull request of the kind he gets tons of every day.
How do you get a MORE valid mail for this particular recipient? (Aside of runes support in the tty layer not being an entirely reasonable feature.)
I hear him complain about having to fish a pull request out of Gmail's "spam" roughly monthly, and that's only cases when he bothers to mention this and I happen to read that particular response (reading the entirety of LKML is not humanly possible).
Thus, Gmail is so bad in the false positive department that I don't think it's usable. Even worse, when it discards a mail this way, it doesn't notify the sender the way any sane server is supposed to!
I wasn't presenting an argument. I was calling you out for being a disingenuous shitstain.
Fair enough, in such case -- as you don't contribute to diversity of discussion, merely insult people -- I don't wish to hear what you say any longer. Judging from your posting history, that's long overdue.
Alas, Slashdot doesn't implement an ignore list; as I use the "Foes" feature to mark kooks (as crap-posters tend to do it AC), I'll have to do so by hand. Please forgive me if I ever forget and reply to you anyway.
As long as you're a woman, you're fine. The problem is with individuals who have organs of both genders. You see, human gene code is written so badly that it puts the worst Visual Basic PHP node.js code monkeys to shame -- whoever designed it sure wasn't intelligent. Most of the time it doesn't even compile (fails before or short after implantation).
Yeah, the split is somewhat arbitrary, but without it, we would have to exclude all true women from most sport disciplines (and men from some like gymnastics), leaving only men (if it was complete free-for-all) or genetic hybrids (if the rule stopped at "mostly female").
Neither coding nor lumberjacking has any reason to care about gender, so any discrimination of any kind, either negative or "positive", is entirely, completely harmful.
Uhm no, you're disregarding what I'm calling the "Bible studies effect": if a majority of researchers of a subject come with a preconceived bias, they will produce more studies and more literature that promote their point of view. Thus, it might seem that there is a certain consensus. Another example is the notion that somehow male circumcision reduces chances of AIDS transmission. And so on, so on.
Another thing is: out of eight sentences in your post, you presented zero actual arguments, yet somehow thought it fitting to include quite a few insults. I don't believe these belong in a post that starts moderation at +2.
Here's some data: by an informal count of gender-recognizable top 1000 kernel contributors to Linux kernel I did several years ago, there were 8 women (I recognize western and slavic names, first names I didn't recognize were skipped). A more thorough count of all "key" packages (as defined by testing migration criteria) in Debian Stretch, where I tried to guess gender based on first name, ldap, ~60 seconds of web search for that person -- shown 0.9% of last uploaders being female, with each female having only 60% packages on the average (although, with low population of data, this last figure might be not significant enough).
Thus, I believe this is approximately the natural gender ratio of skilled software engineers. If your company has 25% or 50%, it's you who's discriminating based on sex.
It's exactly as unfair to disregard a brilliant woman as it is to deny that people with penises have worse ability with colors but higher average strength and technical skills than ones with vaginas, and likewise certain racial stats being correlated with others.
It is easier to look at something easier to measure, like strength: it is obvious that men are stronger, on the average, than women -- so no one insists that a wood-cutting company employs 50% female lumberjacks -- but also, because individual variance trumps averages, I really wouldn't want to get into a fight with a lady who applies for that lumberjack job.
So far, doubleplusungood opinions can only get you fired from your job, ousted from company you founded, or get you arrested. Flying ban is only for those who happen to share a part of a name with a "person of interest".
But, worry not, a campaign of reeducation is underway. You have a teacher snowflake who demands to be called made-up pronouns (not merely the other of two genders) but other employees balk at that? The school gets to pay a $60k fine. And so on, so on.
The US, despite having a right-wing president, is going left to a ridiculous degree. But meanwhile, in some other countries the rightthink is different yet not-so-different. In Poland, we get all-out worship of "Cursed Soldiers", whose heroic deeds were alike that of Bury who didn't kill a single Nazi or Soviet but loved gathering villagers who happened to be Orthodox rather than Catholics into buildings, setting them on fire and shooting those who managed to get out.
Then, the rightthink in Islamic countries hasn't changed for 1439 years, consequences for disobeying it being well-known.
Sounds like a Pinebook knock-off. A real Pinebook has only 16GB "disk", of which the system takes 2GB which you are free to reduce a lot further (no need for many kinds of bloat). If, as you say, that reduced Windows takes 27GB and needs manual steps to complete point release updates with 5GB free, sounds like Windows is a complete no-go on such machines.
Sorry guys I forgot that "I'm a feminist" is your trigger phrase.
Well yes, because reasonable feminism seems to be extinct. I can't say a single good word about an alleged "human" that disagrees with First Wave. The Second Wave was also pretty sane, at least excluding its last parts. But the Third Wave are hostis humani generis and need to be stopped at all costs. Fourth Wave looks like a joke that most but not all of its preachers are aware of.
on virtual screen (2,1) i currently have SIX 80x60 xterms stacked up 3x2
For those of us who start having eyesight problems, and would prefer that going worse (staring all day at tiny letters will degrade your sight further rapidly), tiled xterms are a very bad idea.
I instead use fairly big font on maximized terminal, 10+ tabs on every monitor on every workspace, and switch between them (with two terminals visible at once because of two monitors).
But that means the physical aspect ratio matters -- ie, anything worse than 4:3 would leave me with an useless narrow "wide" strip. The primary monitor is vertical, but 16:9 is unfit for rotating thus it needs to be 4:3 (3:4) as well.
You misspelled "16:12" (aka 4:3). Especially if you can make it vertical, which sadly doesn't apply to laptops (unless we somehow invent good alternate keyboard layouts).
I for one don't watch movies, which means basically every single task I'm doing at the computer is better done in portrait. Reading webpages, coding in a terminal, reading/writing mails, etc. Heck, even most porn pictures are vertical, only clips are landscape.
On the desktop, I can do both: I have one small monitor in landscape and one big one in portrait, both 4:3. No such option on laptop -- and sadly, a keyboard phone that's about to get delivered has useless 16:8.
so never? meat and milk substitutes still suck arse, only vegans and vegetarians or the ignorant make the claims that it tastes almost as good.
While it indeed will take like 50-100 years for fake meat to approach the real thing, you can bet on certain governments banning actual meat within less than 20 years of fakes entering mass production.
I can't stand having two pythons installed to do the same job >:(
So do like me: ignore both pythons, consider them necessary evil (unless you have good replacements for programs implemented in Python), and use Perl for actual work.
Europe needs to get ready for a few years of colder winters.
For now, I'm not seeing any. Just see the "War on Christmas": when I was a kid, the Christmas was white every single year, with multiple months of snow. There wasn't a single white Christmas this decade. This year, there was a single day of snow, the day before Easter.
(Yeah, a real scientist would look at measurements rather than color of Christmas, but using this particular set of data points is far more accessible to an average voter.)
That's about it about northern Poland getting cooler. Once the current stops down for real, we'll see the effects, but for now, we're getting full brunt of literal "global warming".
A typical C++ STL-using project has a lot of pointers. Then, you get larger struct alignment. Java is even worse.
The performance hit from reduced cache sharing between processes for common shared libraries was greater than the performance win from x32.
On not a single machine I even have x32 and amd64 multi-arched within the same container, so there'd be no cache sharing anyway. And who cares about the host if 99.99% of resources are spent by the payload?
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Tacitus' work was written AD 116; he himself wasn't even born decades after Jesus' alleged death. The passage in question reads:
Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind.
Show me a mention of "Jesus", "Jehoshuah" or anything of the kind. All that Tacitus reports is that, during the great fire of Rome, a group popularly referred to as "Christians" did exist and that their name was tied to a person named "Christus", a common biblical term that means "anointed one" -- which required far less chutzpah to claim than "messiah" (which, at the time, would bring a torches-and-pitchforks mob of their jewish neighbours who haven't been expelled yet).
Jesus most certainly existed. There is plenty of documented proof of that.
Any documentation comes from 2nd century, and is very obviously tainted -- either comes from Christians themselves or is a copy of their works. If a preacher leading a popular movement of anything of the scale postulated in the Bible happened, it would be mentioned in secular sources, which have quite detailed records of those times. Yet, any such mentions are conspicuously absent.
On the other hand, there was a lot of religious kooks (this particular thing hasn't changed...), thus it's possible the story has some basis in truth, but has been mangled beyond recognition.
So, it's like that old Russian joke: "Did you hear that in Moscow they give Volga cars for free?" "Sure, they do, you just got three details wrong. First, not in Moscow but in Leningrad. Second, not Volga cars but Zavmash bikes. Third, they don't give but take away.". Thus, Jesus might indeed have existed, save for some little details...
So multiple murders were alleged but all that was proven was 55 days of kidnapping. I think we have to sentence based on what was proven; for that which was not proven we must not assume guilt.
The penalty in this case wouldn't be meaningfully different, thus bothering to prove anything more would be a waste of taxpayers' money. The law doesn't allow for a prison sentence, merely a fine -- and $120M is enough to bankrupt the culprit into the ground.
Camel Pilot and me argue that it would be reasonable to consider this crime to be on par with multiple murders (as the harm to society is comparable, merely split between many people), but that would require changing the law, and lex retro non agit.
if we take those 80,000 confirmed calls and assume about 1 minute for each, we get about 2 months
The article says 96 million calls; that means 183 years. The agency indeed confirmed only 80000; ie 55 days. It's the equivalent of a battery after which you land in hospital for a few months; victims lost productive awake time while lifespan lost to murder also includes sleep and dementia (observing family members in their 80s-90s, I wouldn't be very sad to lose that time of my life).
Thus, as you say, that hoe squad would be appropriate for what was proven. On the other hand, what was alleged (and within the current law the agency has no reason to bother proving more), I consider the crime to be as harmful as multiple murders, and that it should be punished appropriately.
Since he has aggregately stole or taken away several human lifespans... I say capital punishment would be appropriate.
This. Somehow, people are afraid about travelling by plane but don't think twice before entering a car, despite the chance of dying in the latter being many times higher. Or, they are more than a bit hateful against concentration camp operators while having no ill will against those running a coal power plant, despite the latter causing more deaths and sickness (concentration not death camp, distinction is important!)? A robber who takes a few $150 cell phones can land multiple years in the slammer while a bank executive who deprives millions of their livelihood gets a slap-on-the-wrist fine, if anything at all.
A single spamming or robo call campaign can take multiple life spans from the victims. Let's have the punishment take this into account.
One space. The typewriter is dead, please donâ(TM)t bring two spaces back.
As evidenced by that "â(TM)t", you use a device not equipped with a proper keyboard. For those of us on an actual computer, spaces and readability do matter, thus two spaces help. If such a small detail improves reading speed by a few percent (per the article), that's huge. And besides, one space is a heresy -- I'll bring torches and pitchforks to deal with those who think otherwise.
Things haven't changed much. If you search ancient papyri, I bet there's one from a Hittite prince kidnapped by Mittanian pirates who beseeches help from a kind Egyptian noble such as you who could help pay the ransom and then be handsomely rewarded -- just use this new money transfer service those Phoenician devils invented.
Wait, so why do you even have staging servers, if a fatal problem they show still doesn't stop propagation to production?
I miss a real email about once a year from SPAM filters in Gmail, and it's usually a shady email. I literally never check my Gmail SPAM just because.
Seriously?
Let's take Linus, he somehow still uses Gmail. I'm too small a fry to send him pull requests, but I did make an April first one. (The mail archive web display mangles UTF-8 but it's correct in the actual mail, pretty vital for this actual patch set.). See Linus' complaint. Here we have correspondence from someone who had just participated in a two-way thread with Linus (something about modversions), the mail is GPG signed by a key one indirect node away, the mail being a well-formed pull request of the kind he gets tons of every day.
How do you get a MORE valid mail for this particular recipient? (Aside of runes support in the tty layer not being an entirely reasonable feature.)
I hear him complain about having to fish a pull request out of Gmail's "spam" roughly monthly, and that's only cases when he bothers to mention this and I happen to read that particular response (reading the entirety of LKML is not humanly possible).
Thus, Gmail is so bad in the false positive department that I don't think it's usable. Even worse, when it discards a mail this way, it doesn't notify the sender the way any sane server is supposed to!
I wasn't presenting an argument. I was calling you out for being a disingenuous shitstain.
Fair enough, in such case -- as you don't contribute to diversity of discussion, merely insult people -- I don't wish to hear what you say any longer. Judging from your posting history, that's long overdue.
Alas, Slashdot doesn't implement an ignore list; as I use the "Foes" feature to mark kooks (as crap-posters tend to do it AC), I'll have to do so by hand. Please forgive me if I ever forget and reply to you anyway.
The test suite can be... fun.
As long as you're a woman, you're fine. The problem is with individuals who have organs of both genders. You see, human gene code is written so badly that it puts the worst Visual Basic PHP node.js code monkeys to shame -- whoever designed it sure wasn't intelligent. Most of the time it doesn't even compile (fails before or short after implantation).
Yeah, the split is somewhat arbitrary, but without it, we would have to exclude all true women from most sport disciplines (and men from some like gymnastics), leaving only men (if it was complete free-for-all) or genetic hybrids (if the rule stopped at "mostly female").
Neither coding nor lumberjacking has any reason to care about gender, so any discrimination of any kind, either negative or "positive", is entirely, completely harmful.
Uhm no, you're disregarding what I'm calling the "Bible studies effect": if a majority of researchers of a subject come with a preconceived bias, they will produce more studies and more literature that promote their point of view. Thus, it might seem that there is a certain consensus. Another example is the notion that somehow male circumcision reduces chances of AIDS transmission. And so on, so on.
Another thing is: out of eight sentences in your post, you presented zero actual arguments, yet somehow thought it fitting to include quite a few insults. I don't believe these belong in a post that starts moderation at +2.
Here's some data: by an informal count of gender-recognizable top 1000 kernel contributors to Linux kernel I did several years ago, there were 8 women (I recognize western and slavic names, first names I didn't recognize were skipped). A more thorough count of all "key" packages (as defined by testing migration criteria) in Debian Stretch, where I tried to guess gender based on first name, ldap, ~60 seconds of web search for that person -- shown 0.9% of last uploaders being female, with each female having only 60% packages on the average (although, with low population of data, this last figure might be not significant enough).
Thus, I believe this is approximately the natural gender ratio of skilled software engineers. If your company has 25% or 50%, it's you who's discriminating based on sex.
It's exactly as unfair to disregard a brilliant woman as it is to deny that people with penises have worse ability with colors but higher average strength and technical skills than ones with vaginas, and likewise certain racial stats being correlated with others.
It is easier to look at something easier to measure, like strength: it is obvious that men are stronger, on the average, than women -- so no one insists that a wood-cutting company employs 50% female lumberjacks -- but also, because individual variance trumps averages, I really wouldn't want to get into a fight with a lady who applies for that lumberjack job.
So far, doubleplusungood opinions can only get you fired from your job, ousted from company you founded, or get you arrested. Flying ban is only for those who happen to share a part of a name with a "person of interest".
But, worry not, a campaign of reeducation is underway. You have a teacher snowflake who demands to be called made-up pronouns (not merely the other of two genders) but other employees balk at that? The school gets to pay a $60k fine. And so on, so on.
The US, despite having a right-wing president, is going left to a ridiculous degree. But meanwhile, in some other countries the rightthink is different yet not-so-different. In Poland, we get all-out worship of "Cursed Soldiers", whose heroic deeds were alike that of Bury who didn't kill a single Nazi or Soviet but loved gathering villagers who happened to be Orthodox rather than Catholics into buildings, setting them on fire and shooting those who managed to get out.
Then, the rightthink in Islamic countries hasn't changed for 1439 years, consequences for disobeying it being well-known.
not understanding that if the recipient is not under Google's control, the "confidentiality" features are useless
or if the recipient uses the only usable Gmail UI (ie, IMAP)
Sounds like a Pinebook knock-off. A real Pinebook has only 16GB "disk", of which the system takes 2GB which you are free to reduce a lot further (no need for many kinds of bloat). If, as you say, that reduced Windows takes 27GB and needs manual steps to complete point release updates with 5GB free, sounds like Windows is a complete no-go on such machines.
Sorry guys I forgot that "I'm a feminist" is your trigger phrase.
Well yes, because reasonable feminism seems to be extinct. I can't say a single good word about an alleged "human" that disagrees with First Wave. The Second Wave was also pretty sane, at least excluding its last parts. But the Third Wave are hostis humani generis and need to be stopped at all costs. Fourth Wave looks like a joke that most but not all of its preachers are aware of.
on virtual screen (2,1) i currently have SIX 80x60 xterms stacked up 3x2
For those of us who start having eyesight problems, and would prefer that going worse (staring all day at tiny letters will degrade your sight further rapidly), tiled xterms are a very bad idea.
I instead use fairly big font on maximized terminal, 10+ tabs on every monitor on every workspace, and switch between them (with two terminals visible at once because of two monitors).
But that means the physical aspect ratio matters -- ie, anything worse than 4:3 would leave me with an useless narrow "wide" strip. The primary monitor is vertical, but 16:9 is unfit for rotating thus it needs to be 4:3 (3:4) as well.
You misspelled "16:12" (aka 4:3). Especially if you can make it vertical, which sadly doesn't apply to laptops (unless we somehow invent good alternate keyboard layouts).
I for one don't watch movies, which means basically every single task I'm doing at the computer is better done in portrait. Reading webpages, coding in a terminal, reading/writing mails, etc. Heck, even most porn pictures are vertical, only clips are landscape.
On the desktop, I can do both: I have one small monitor in landscape and one big one in portrait, both 4:3. No such option on laptop -- and sadly, a keyboard phone that's about to get delivered has useless 16:8.
so never? meat and milk substitutes still suck arse, only vegans and vegetarians or the ignorant make the claims that it tastes almost as good.
While it indeed will take like 50-100 years for fake meat to approach the real thing, you can bet on certain governments banning actual meat within less than 20 years of fakes entering mass production.
I can't stand having two pythons installed to do the same job >:(
So do like me: ignore both pythons, consider them necessary evil (unless you have good replacements for programs implemented in Python), and use Perl for actual work.
Europe needs to get ready for a few years of colder winters.
For now, I'm not seeing any. Just see the "War on Christmas": when I was a kid, the Christmas was white every single year, with multiple months of snow. There wasn't a single white Christmas this decade. This year, there was a single day of snow, the day before Easter.
(Yeah, a real scientist would look at measurements rather than color of Christmas, but using this particular set of data points is far more accessible to an average voter.)
That's about it about northern Poland getting cooler. Once the current stops down for real, we'll see the effects, but for now, we're getting full brunt of literal "global warming".
So wait until past 6am or even 8am -- you'll get to bed really, really early. That should make you beat all records of lifespan!
A typical C++ STL-using project has a lot of pointers. Then, you get larger struct alignment. Java is even worse.
The performance hit from reduced cache sharing between processes for common shared libraries was greater than the performance win from x32.
On not a single machine I even have x32 and amd64 multi-arched within the same container, so there'd be no cache sharing anyway. And who cares about the host if 99.99% of resources are spent by the payload?