But is mathematics not a law of nature (or more accurately an abstraction thereof)?
From what I have gathered from reading things like Bertrand Russel's Principia and looking into Godel's incompleteness theory, mathematics is fairly fundamental. Mathematics seems to be a science in and of itself as well as the language of science. All of this would seem to make mathematics as immutable as any other law of nature. Also, consider that the mathematics of programming is an abstraction of the operation of millions of transistors that definitely obey any "classical" laws of nature.
As stupid and irrational as Frosty is, his biggest fault is that he isn't even correct.
I am watching An Inconvenient Truth right now and Al Gore just referred to 2004-2005's weather patterns as being like "a nature hike through Revelations."
Maybe it was just a figure of speech, but the point was still addressed.
The idea of physical determinism is not a new one. Philosophers have been debating this exact point for a long time now. This entire pursuit is further complicated by dificulties in actually defining free will. The great Scottish philosopher David Hume (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hume) even argued that physical determinism and free will are not mutually exclusive. He went as far to say that free will is incompatible with anything but determinism. This is because if things occurred indeterministically, they would occur randomly. As decisions based on free will are not random, but based on aspects of our character and incentives/disincentives, indeterminism would not really work out. Hume defined free will as meaning that should one have a different value set or incentives when making a decision, the decision could be different. Free Will in Hume's world view was more of a hypothetical ability, but an important one nonetheless.
Using Compatibilism (Free will and determinism), people would still be responsible for their own actions. What is a person beyond a collection of knowledge and algorithms (emotional and rational) in a physical shell? If one's value sets are "warped" and the incentives of obeying the law/doing the right thing are not personally great enough, then it should be said that transgressions are made of ones "free will".
I suggest reading some David Hume. People have already thought of this problem and ways to counteract it.
Also, while tumors aren't subtle, most criminal behaviour is a much more complex mesh of incentives and values that are, as any economist will tell you, hard to determine for certain. Jurisprudence still works!
Yeah same story here. 16 years. QBASIC - 8 years (gave it up when better things came around), C++ - 7 years, HTML - 7 years, PHP - 2 years, Perl - 1 year, BASH - 3 years, and Javascript - 3 weeks!
Still with all this crap and a boatload of linux server admin experience I still get bitchslapped in my "journalism" class and told to read the damn book on indesign because its so dificult to move the windows around and figure things out. This message presented with help of No Child Allowed To Get Ahead Act and President George W. Bush (because, is our children learning?)
How is WalMart bashing anti-capitalist? Yes, walmart has the right to treat employees badly, not give good healthcare, buy goods from the cheapest distributor, and carry on its way. However, I have the right to support or not support WalMart based on my values. Voting with ones dollars is not illegal, nor should it be, it is the basis of capitalism!
I am a rabid freemarket libertarian who does not support WalMart because I prefer diversity and competition among smaller entities. I do not support them, however, I am not crying to the government (I only do that for IP), or employing any noncapitalist strategies. Distributing information is not kommunist, contrary to popular belief
Seriously guys, having a computer that adjusts based on mood is a bad idea. Are we not geeks, have we not read Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. Genuine People Personality is a really irritating thing.
Oh well, this thing will go through and the best we can hope for is that they will teach it how to make tea.
Insomniak`: Stupid fucking Google Insomniak`: "The" is a common word, and was not included in your search Insomniak`: "Who" is a common word, and was not included in your search
Well, most distros aren't actually allowed to umm... include the mp3 libraries. Fedora, SuSE, and Ubuntu require that they be installed seperately, and the process isn't as easy as one would expect for installing full featured media packages, on SuSE you have to download special builds off of a third party server, uninstall all the old things, and force your new packages in.
Your argument against the GP was that because average users like mp3s, we shouldn't worry about them. Average people caused the RIAA to make life hell. While they certainly didn't help, the industry trade groups have always tried to destroy new things and it is the fault of the RIAA and corrupt politicians that we have these laws. This is essentially the same as a rapist arguing that the girl had it coming, and was just asking for it. If you know what you are doing, mp3/media support isn't a big deal, but in many cases it is still a PITA to get these packages set up, and more so if the user expects mp3s to just work. That said, I use gentoo, no mp3 problems there.
well its actually
Brian Griffin Sorry. The VCR hasn't worked since you tried to tape Monday Night Football.
FBI Agent Do you have the written consent of ABC Sports and the National Football League?
Peter Griffin Just ABC.
I just found the script
FBI: Do you have permission from the National Football League and the American Broadcasting Company to record this viewing of Monday Night Football?
Peter: Ummm. I only have permission from ABC.
As someone who is using it now, I will reccommend it highly. Screenshots do not do it justice. The effects that are everywhere and the polish really make everything happy. I used to be a fluxbox user because I am into the minimalism, but I now use E17 all the time because it is just as fast. E17 has also been quite stable for me, more stable than kde in any case. It is a bit of an adventure to get it installed (I use gentoo so its not bad) but it is highly worth the effort. If you are used to fluxbox like stuff, then you will appreciate it, it is not a windows clone type thing at all.
the devs are working on it, they aren't a secret cabal of enlightened devs, they publish a list of features they will implement on get-e.org and other places
I hate DST and timezones. We should all use GMT. People, the numbers are arbitrary! Converting between timezones is pain and really unnescesary. As it is times aren't standard due to culture (even with time zones), compare the eating times of someone in spain to someone in America for example. The whole system in antiquated and unnescesary. Yes I realise it won't ever change but heck, this is slashdot.
I am a bit young right now (10th grade) but I know that I want to do something with computer science. I have pretty much decided that apps programming is not for me (other than open source endeavors), as I don't feel like losing my job to outsourcing and I prefer complex math things. I am kind of intrigued by theoretical computer science (hypercomputing and the like) but I don't know if my interest in that could coincide with my interest in eating. Would I be able to get a job in theoretical computer science? Or should I just try and get into normal IT (sysadmin, application development, etc)? In any case what sort of education should I look into? Any advice...
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The justice system
Compulsory Education
Fair Punishment
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But is mathematics not a law of nature (or more accurately an abstraction thereof)?
From what I have gathered from reading things like Bertrand Russel's Principia and looking into Godel's incompleteness theory, mathematics is fairly fundamental. Mathematics seems to be a science in and of itself as well as the language of science. All of this would seem to make mathematics as immutable as any other law of nature. Also, consider that the mathematics of programming is an abstraction of the operation of millions of transistors that definitely obey any "classical" laws of nature.
As stupid and irrational as Frosty is, his biggest fault is that he isn't even correct.
I am watching An Inconvenient Truth right now and Al Gore just referred to 2004-2005's weather patterns as being like "a nature hike through Revelations."
Maybe it was just a figure of speech, but the point was still addressed.
would be Apple Computer Inc.
The idea of physical determinism is not a new one. Philosophers have been debating this exact point for a long time now. This entire pursuit is further complicated by dificulties in actually defining free will. The great Scottish philosopher David Hume (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hume) even argued that physical determinism and free will are not mutually exclusive. He went as far to say that free will is incompatible with anything but determinism. This is because if things occurred indeterministically, they would occur randomly. As decisions based on free will are not random, but based on aspects of our character and incentives/disincentives, indeterminism would not really work out. Hume defined free will as meaning that should one have a different value set or incentives when making a decision, the decision could be different. Free Will in Hume's world view was more of a hypothetical ability, but an important one nonetheless.
Using Compatibilism (Free will and determinism), people would still be responsible for their own actions. What is a person beyond a collection of knowledge and algorithms (emotional and rational) in a physical shell? If one's value sets are "warped" and the incentives of obeying the law/doing the right thing are not personally great enough, then it should be said that transgressions are made of ones "free will".
I suggest reading some David Hume. People have already thought of this problem and ways to counteract it.
Also, while tumors aren't subtle, most criminal behaviour is a much more complex mesh of incentives and values that are, as any economist will tell you, hard to determine for certain. Jurisprudence still works!
How can firefox continue to solve the major problems of the world like bad html/javascript, war, and the cancellation of firefly?
Can firefox or open source help solve any of these problems?
John Dvorak, QED
Yeah same story here. 16 years. QBASIC - 8 years (gave it up when better things came around), C++ - 7 years, HTML - 7 years, PHP - 2 years, Perl - 1 year, BASH - 3 years, and Javascript - 3 weeks!
Still with all this crap and a boatload of linux server admin experience I still get bitchslapped in my "journalism" class and told to read the damn book on indesign because its so dificult to move the windows around and figure things out. This message presented with help of No Child Allowed To Get Ahead Act and President George W. Bush (because, is our children learning?)
How is WalMart bashing anti-capitalist? Yes, walmart has the right to treat employees badly, not give good healthcare, buy goods from the cheapest distributor, and carry on its way. However, I have the right to support or not support WalMart based on my values. Voting with ones dollars is not illegal, nor should it be, it is the basis of capitalism!
I am a rabid freemarket libertarian who does not support WalMart because I prefer diversity and competition among smaller entities. I do not support them, however, I am not crying to the government (I only do that for IP), or employing any noncapitalist strategies. Distributing information is not kommunist, contrary to popular belief
Have they been alerted of this vulnerability, or has it happened already?
Seriously guys, having a computer that adjusts based on mood is a bad idea. Are we not geeks, have we not read Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. Genuine People Personality is a really irritating thing. Oh well, this thing will go through and the best we can hope for is that they will teach it how to make tea.
Insomniak`: Stupid fucking Google
Insomniak`: "The" is a common word, and was not included in your search
Insomniak`: "Who" is a common word, and was not included in your search
Mars, bitches
Forget about Iraq, its Mars bitches!
Spell it correctly as it were.
Well, most distros aren't actually allowed to umm... include the mp3 libraries. Fedora, SuSE, and Ubuntu require that they be installed seperately, and the process isn't as easy as one would expect for installing full featured media packages, on SuSE you have to download special builds off of a third party server, uninstall all the old things, and force your new packages in.
Your argument against the GP was that because average users like mp3s, we shouldn't worry about them. Average people caused the RIAA to make life hell. While they certainly didn't help, the industry trade groups have always tried to destroy new things and it is the fault of the RIAA and corrupt politicians that we have these laws. This is essentially the same as a rapist arguing that the girl had it coming, and was just asking for it. If you know what you are doing, mp3/media support isn't a big deal, but in many cases it is still a PITA to get these packages set up, and more so if the user expects mp3s to just work. That said, I use gentoo, no mp3 problems there.
well its actually Brian Griffin Sorry. The VCR hasn't worked since you tried to tape Monday Night Football. FBI Agent Do you have the written consent of ABC Sports and the National Football League? Peter Griffin Just ABC. I just found the script
FBI: Do you have permission from the National Football League and the American Broadcasting Company to record this viewing of Monday Night Football? Peter: Ummm. I only have permission from ABC.
As someone who is using it now, I will reccommend it highly. Screenshots do not do it justice. The effects that are everywhere and the polish really make everything happy. I used to be a fluxbox user because I am into the minimalism, but I now use E17 all the time because it is just as fast. E17 has also been quite stable for me, more stable than kde in any case. It is a bit of an adventure to get it installed (I use gentoo so its not bad) but it is highly worth the effort. If you are used to fluxbox like stuff, then you will appreciate it, it is not a windows clone type thing at all.
the devs are working on it, they aren't a secret cabal of enlightened devs, they publish a list of features they will implement on get-e.org and other places
or you could code to standards and have the same effect
I hate DST and timezones. We should all use GMT. People, the numbers are arbitrary! Converting between timezones is pain and really unnescesary. As it is times aren't standard due to culture (even with time zones), compare the eating times of someone in spain to someone in America for example. The whole system in antiquated and unnescesary. Yes I realise it won't ever change but heck, this is slashdot.
I am a bit young right now (10th grade) but I know that I want to do something with computer science. I have pretty much decided that apps programming is not for me (other than open source endeavors), as I don't feel like losing my job to outsourcing and I prefer complex math things. I am kind of intrigued by theoretical computer science (hypercomputing and the like) but I don't know if my interest in that could coincide with my interest in eating. Would I be able to get a job in theoretical computer science? Or should I just try and get into normal IT (sysadmin, application development, etc)? In any case what sort of education should I look into? Any advice...
You can't fight here, this is the war room
I misread the "Newsweek article" as the "Newspeak article" and I was all like woah, damn dyslexia.
your signature makes it infinitely funnier