I gave my grandmother a laptop (my former primary lappy) running Fedora Linux - she can play games, look up recipes and articles, and that's about all she does with it. (She can use XP and Windows 2000 just as well). For simple things, I don't think it matters much what the OS - a little bit of "this is where this is" seems to do the trick.
I think you need to explain your "Windows underneath Linux" remark. There is no Windows underneath Linux, and never was. And our wheel is less reinvented then Microsoft's...
You're assuming my parents even know how to use DVD's or an iPod. Or use Office. Aside from Mapquest, Craigslist, parts lookup, invoicing, and wiring diagram lookup, my father doesn't use the computer for anything else.
Care to tell which version? I can post for 10.4 and 10.6.
ares:~ armanox$ uname -a Darwin ares.home 8.11.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc ares:~ armanox$
hephaestus:~ armanox$ uname -a Darwin hephaestus.home 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 7 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386 hephaestus:~ armanox$
I haven't seen a removable GPU or CPU in a laptop for years (probably since 2005), and even then most of the laptops I've seen the CPU was in the board (going all the way back to an 8088 laptop I have).
The one's I shop at (Laurel, MD; Towson, MD; White Marsh, MD) all had Gigabit Ethernet cards in them last time I was there (been to all three this year).
Wow, someone who uses OI. Are you running it on physical or virtual HW? How is it? It doesn't seem to like VBox on my FX-8120, was wondering how you got it running?
"Yes we know, it's nothing new - just a waste of time. We have no need for ancient ways our world is doing fine. Another toy, that helped destroy the elder race of man. Forget about your silly whim, it doesn't fit the plan." -- 2112: The Presentation
Considering how often I actually use menus in a web browser, I'd rather have the vertical space. Especially since most laptops suck on vertical space (768 is painful). I think IE got it right when they switched to hide the menu bar, push ALT to show. And the status bar? What good was that anyway?
Problem is the previous versions are crap too. I've got better support on my laptop (Radeon HD 3200) with the open source driver then with fglrx (regardless of distro).
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I gave my grandmother a laptop (my former primary lappy) running Fedora Linux - she can play games, look up recipes and articles, and that's about all she does with it. (She can use XP and Windows 2000 just as well). For simple things, I don't think it matters much what the OS - a little bit of "this is where this is" seems to do the trick.
LOL. Mono was removed from the default install on Fedora quite a while ago (I think around F13?), and is not in the default install on RHEL6.
I think you need to explain your "Windows underneath Linux" remark. There is no Windows underneath Linux, and never was. And our wheel is less reinvented then Microsoft's...
You're assuming my parents even know how to use DVD's or an iPod. Or use Office. Aside from Mapquest, Craigslist, parts lookup, invoicing, and wiring diagram lookup, my father doesn't use the computer for anything else.
Care to tell which version? I can post for 10.4 and 10.6.
ares:~ armanox$ uname -a
Darwin ares.home 8.11.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc
ares:~ armanox$
hephaestus:~ armanox$ uname -a
Darwin hephaestus.home 10.8.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.8.0: Tue Jun 7 16:33:36 PDT 2011; root:xnu-1504.15.3~1/RELEASE_I386 i386
hephaestus:~ armanox$
I think so. He even posts on /. every so often.
Well, mine voted no (Sarbanes).
I haven't seen a removable GPU or CPU in a laptop for years (probably since 2005), and even then most of the laptops I've seen the CPU was in the board (going all the way back to an 8088 laptop I have).
Only 98? I've been running Windows 2000 for years!
I don't dabble in OpenGL, but I thought the 2D stuff was supported in the open source drivers?
Well they won't on the ARM edition...
The one's I shop at (Laurel, MD; Towson, MD; White Marsh, MD) all had Gigabit Ethernet cards in them last time I was there (been to all three this year).
I can wait, but my job often can not.
ignore the "off of," I'm not fully awake yet.
Rackable aquired the "SGI" name as part of buying off of the old SGI's assets IIRC.
Another one with an 8100. They also have a replaceable graphics card. Talk about "good old days"
I remember seeing it used in OpenSUSE (post-install).
I've been using a custom kernel on Fedora (and the older Red Hat) for years (Currently running 3.2.x on F14 at home) without issue.
Wow, someone who uses OI. Are you running it on physical or virtual HW? How is it? It doesn't seem to like VBox on my FX-8120, was wondering how you got it running?
Sorry to be off topic...
"Yes we know, it's nothing new - just a waste of time. We have no need for ancient ways our world is doing fine. Another toy, that helped destroy the elder race of man. Forget about your silly whim, it doesn't fit the plan." -- 2112: The Presentation
As soon as ARM tries to catch up to the performance of x86 (and x64) it no longer has the lower power consumption.
Intel is faster per thread on the mid range too. What AMD has is they're cheap.
Considering how often I actually use menus in a web browser, I'd rather have the vertical space. Especially since most laptops suck on vertical space (768 is painful). I think IE got it right when they switched to hide the menu bar, push ALT to show. And the status bar? What good was that anyway?
It's my understanding that it's a feature for exactly that purpose (avoiding injection attacks).
Problem is the previous versions are crap too. I've got better support on my laptop (Radeon HD 3200) with the open source driver then with fglrx (regardless of distro).