I mean, while this isn't the busiest thread I've seen today, it's attracted some attention. Just send a press release to/. announcing that you have developed a new set of tools that's open source, and you can jump start your developer base.
Shame the original post didn't mention what company/product this was for.
Or, you could save the money and look at OpenBooks
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He killed himself - there is no known reason I've read about, no cause, no real news other than he's dead.
Wait, lemme guess - you submitted the story, and are now all irritated that you haven't gotten your karma splash. You'd rather see the/. conspiracy theories start flying than wait to at least let the body get cold.
I'd bet dollars to donuts that when something is known, you'll see it here.
I have to say, if you'd join the evo mailing list, you'd be very up to date on what problems people are having.
Note that I have no experience with the connector portion, as I convinced my corporate masters long ago that Exchange was a tool of the devil [;)], but the most common issues I see on the list are:
1) lack of inline pgp/gpg support 2) spell check problems 3) inability to mail calendar items (which may or may not be solved by Connector).
http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evoluti on
In all, I don't think I could *ever* go back to netscape or mozilla for mail. When I finally can ditch windows at the office, I expect the app that lets me get away with it will be Evolution.
Seems that communication is the key for both sides. My gf is a PM, and here is what she had to say after reading the comments in this article:
Interesting in that it's only from a technical standpoint. Notice how
none of them say, "Well, as an engineer, I refuse to give the project
manager any information that would actually be useful to their job.
That way, they have to take a broad guess based on riddles I give them
regarding how long it will take to complete. Then I have someone to
blame if my programming takes longer than I thought, or the product
isn't what the customer wanted."
See, I am the type of project manager that knows my engineers know how
long it takes to finish something. Whatever timeline they give me (if I
pull a rabbit out of a hat and actually get a timeline) is still padded
slightly to allow for any last minute problems that crop up.:)
(Note that these were her opinions/experiences, don't bother flaming me.)
What I'm guessing is that you make the same mistake that many people make: you don't store your data off-site, otherwise, you'd never be recommending hard drives as a backup media solution. That could be your downfall. I hope you never suffer for it, but all it's going to take is a theft, fire, water damage or similar at the office to make you realize the error of your ways
How so? I backup every available share on the network via a script, and then have a cron job move it offsite to a remote location. Once a week, I burn to a CD from *both locations*, which goes to a 3rd location. No tapes, no mess.
I hate tape.
Re:BTW, there's a discussion about this.
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So I'm thinking then that M$ will suddenly start to look at thin clients in a whole new light.
If the OS is commoditized, they still have to make their money elsewhere.
*wavy lines*
Office? No problem! Don't buy that expensive Dell workstation - buy the cheapo thin client for your drones, and a big old server running WinXX and use.NET to leverage!
Oh yeah, now we got you where we want you on per seat licensing, and even though you just realized it, what you gonna do? Eat the cost of those 400 thin clients? Or pay us our per-seat fee?
I used to live two doors down from this guy, and I'm wondering if he hasn't annoyed Belo into sicking the lawyers on him. Avi Adelman usually means well, but his implementation always left a little to be desired.
Case in point: He asked us for our phone number so he could call us in case of an emergency. It was unlisted and unpublished. We thought he was just being neighborly, until we noticed he had put together a phone book and distributed it all over the neighborhood!
He also needs to mow his lawn and maybe repaint his house instead of tilting at yet another windmill.
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Forget about a national ID card. Instead, the federal government might use Microsoft's Passport technology to verify the online identity of America's citizens, federal employees and businesses, according to the White House technology czar.
On Sept. 30, the government plans to begin testing Web sites where businesses can pay taxes and citizens can learn about benefits and social services. It's also exploring how to verify the identity of users so the sites can share private information.
Microsoft's Passport is being considered as a way to authenticate users of the Web sites, said Mark Forman, associate director of information technology at the White House.
"They are involved in that discussion,'' he said, adding that the government has not yet selected which technology it will use.
Forman, who is overseeing the government's purchases of $100 billion worth of technology this year and next, was a featured speaker at the Microsoft Government Leaders Conference in Seattle this week.
Forman is a former Senate staffer who worked for IBM and Unisys before he joined the Bush administration.
Describing himself as the government's chief information officer, he said his priorities are to impose businesslike approaches for technology deployments and to monitor improvements they bring.
After the Sept. 11 attacks, some politicians and business leaders have called for a national identification card, but Forman said that's not in the works. "We don't have any plans for a national ID card," he said.
The White House is instead pursuing an "e-identification" initiative, an effort to develop ways to authenticate people and businesses online who already have government identification numbers such as Social Security, business-registration and employer-identification numbers.
At the government-leaders conference, attended by representatives of 75 countries, Microsoft presented a blueprint for its "e-government" strategy that suggests they use Passport to verify the identity of visitors to their Web sites. It also suggested that its bCentral business Web site could be used to process business tax payments and that citizens could use its MSN Web site to handle address changes and voter registration.
Governments have long been some of Microsoft's biggest customers. Its desktop software for office workers and back-end software running networks are widely by used by state and federal agencies, and the company has developed Internet portals for the United Kingdom, Mexico and other nations.
But getting the United States to use Passport to authenticate its 285 million citizens online would be a coup for the Redmond software company. It would also be a large step toward fulfilling Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates' stated goal of getting everyone on the Internet to use Passport as their sign-on tool.
Yesterday, appearing at the conference, Gates reiterated the goal, saying he expects governments in many countries will find it difficult getting to "critical mass" with authentication systems they develop on their own. He said some governments may opt to use companies such as Microsoft or America Online as "the bank" that registers people for online usage.
Passport was introduced in 1999 and is the keystone of an array of online services the company introduced a year ago, when Gates revealed his ambitions for the service.
After privacy advocates attacked the plan and a coalition of major corporations formed an alliance to develop standards for authentication systems that would work together, Microsoft toned down its approach. It now acknowledges that Passport will co-exist with other tools.
Forman said his team has also been contacted by the coalition, called the Liberty Alliance, and will meet with them at some point.
The current version of Passport requires little personal information other than an e-mail address, but a new, more secure version expected by mid-2003 may be used to store sensitive data on Microsoft's network.
Microsoft says it has 200 million people registered to use Passport, most of whom signed up because Microsoft told them it was needed to use other Microsoft services, such as its free Hotmail e-mail service or Windows XP operating system. According to Gartner, a research company based in Stamford, Conn., only 2 percent signed up because of the service's stated purpose: to avoid having to use multiple identifications and passwords at different Web sites.
Avivah Litan, vice president and research director at Gartner, said expanding Passport benefits Microsoft by drawing more Web traffic, making its sites more appealing to advertisers and enabling the company to charge "click through" fees for online sales executed using the service.
But the company may ultimately decide it's not worthwhile to boost the service from a tool of convenience for consumers to a verification service relied upon by businesses and government.
"Once you start vouching for identity, that makes you liable for fraud, that makes you liable for identity theft," Litan said.
Also at the conference, Microsoft announced plans to bring Internet access to government services to Mexico through a network of kiosks developed with the company's technology.
From the WC III FAQ:
Are there any plans to port a Linux version? We are currently developing WarCraft III for the PC and Macintosh and have no plans for versions on other operating systems.
Would have been nice to know if was going to be available under OSX or Classic. Perhaps I just missed where it was listed??
Are there any groups that are actively standing out against spam and lobbying the politicians? If so, I'm ready to join, if not, I need to start one.
http://www.cauce.org/
"CAUCE began as a discussion group called SPAM-LAW, which was an outgrowth of another list called SPAM-L, the Spam Prevention and Discussion List. A number of people who participated in SPAM-L felt that legislation was necessary to stop spam from choking the life out of the Internet. To keep the list topic focused, it was decided to create a separate list, the SPAM-LAW list, to discuss options on how to further legislation to prevent spam."
The objectification of people as sexual objects is the primary cause of violence.
[gems] sparkle in some people's eyes and are thought of as a means to buy sexual company.
So why aren't you out fighting to buy Veronica Moser a diamond ring?
Really? I tried Redhat 7.2 on a PII-333 with 128 MB, and the whole system... ground... to..... a...... halt.
Hrm. I did have to do a text install on the P233, but had no problems other than that with RH 7.2. on either machine. The entire install process took about an hour for each machine. *shrug* I've been using evolution exclusively since about the.11 snapshots and have had no real problems with it either.
Slashdot Mirror
Heh. I think you meant *ask* on slashdot.
/. announcing that you have developed a new set of tools that's open source, and you can jump start your developer base.
I mean, while this isn't the busiest thread I've seen today, it's attracted some attention. Just send a press release to
Shame the original post didn't mention what company/product this was for.
A lot of this seems to be covered in Web Client Programming with Perl.
Along with the other comments listing many references for Perl & LWP, I don't think I'll be rushing out to spend the money quick-like...
Because there isn't a story there yet?
/. conspiracy theories start flying than wait to at least let the body get cold.
No. Serious.
He killed himself - there is no known reason I've read about, no cause, no real news other than he's dead.
Wait, lemme guess - you submitted the story, and are now all irritated that you haven't gotten your karma splash. You'd rather see the
I'd bet dollars to donuts that when something is known, you'll see it here.
I have to say, if you'd join the evo mailing
i on
list, you'd be very up to date on what problems
people are having.
Note that I have no experience with the connector
portion, as I convinced my corporate masters
long ago that Exchange was a tool of the devil
[;)], but the most common issues I see on the
list are:
1) lack of inline pgp/gpg support
2) spell check problems
3) inability to mail calendar items (which may or
may not be solved by Connector).
http://lists.ximian.com/mailman/listinfo/evolut
In all, I don't think I could *ever* go back to netscape or mozilla for mail. When I finally can ditch windows at the office, I expect the app that lets me get away with it will be Evolution.
you can set up a cron job to order beer.
This is seriously cool. And I want one yesterday.
Seems that communication is the key for both sides. My gf is a PM, and here is what she had to say after reading the comments in this article:
:)
Interesting in that it's only from a technical standpoint. Notice how
none of them say, "Well, as an engineer, I refuse to give the project
manager any information that would actually be useful to their job.
That way, they have to take a broad guess based on riddles I give them
regarding how long it will take to complete. Then I have someone to
blame if my programming takes longer than I thought, or the product
isn't what the customer wanted."
See, I am the type of project manager that knows my engineers know how
long it takes to finish something. Whatever timeline they give me (if I
pull a rabbit out of a hat and actually get a timeline) is still padded
slightly to allow for any last minute problems that crop up.
(Note that these were her opinions/experiences, don't bother flaming me.)
This would be a welcome feature addition for Evolution.
What I'm guessing is that you make the same mistake that many people make: you don't store your data off-site, otherwise, you'd never be recommending hard drives as a backup media solution. That could be your downfall. I hope you never suffer for it, but all it's going to take is a theft, fire, water damage or similar at the office to make you realize the error of your ways
How so? I backup every available share on the network via a script, and then have a cron job move it offsite to a remote location. Once a week, I burn to a CD from *both locations*, which goes to a 3rd location. No tapes, no mess.
I hate tape.
So I'm thinking then that M$ will suddenly start to look at thin clients in a whole new light.
.NET to leverage!
If the OS is commoditized, they still have to make their money elsewhere.
*wavy lines*
Office? No problem! Don't buy that expensive Dell workstation - buy the cheapo thin client for your drones, and a big old server running WinXX and use
Oh yeah, now we got you where we want you on per seat licensing, and even though you just realized it, what you gonna do? Eat the cost of those 400 thin clients? Or pay us our per-seat fee?
Good boy, sign here.
*/end wavy lines*
Seems like IBM is making out like gangbusters in
these deals.
Perhaps there was something to that slashback article
last night....
might be Genitope. Their method for controlling/curing indolent Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma seem to be way ahead of the curve.
Call the BSA!
I used to live two doors down from this guy, and I'm
wondering if he hasn't annoyed Belo into sicking the
lawyers on him. Avi Adelman usually means well, but
his implementation always left a little to be desired.
Case in point: He asked us for our phone
number so he could call us in case of an emergency.
It was unlisted and unpublished. We thought he was
just being neighborly, until we noticed he had put
together a phone book and distributed it all over
the neighborhood!
He also needs to mow his lawn and maybe repaint his
house instead of tilting at yet another windmill.
Time to get out your keyboards/pen&paper and write to your Congresscritter on the Appropriations Committee.
Remember to be polite when explaining why you disagree with this.
that Pink was the new Black?!?!!
*must turn in goth membership card*
Feds might use Microsoft product for online ID
By Brier Dudley
Seattle Times technology reporter
Mark Forman
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Forget about a national ID card. Instead, the federal government might use Microsoft's Passport technology to verify the online identity of America's citizens, federal employees and businesses, according to the White House technology czar.
On Sept. 30, the government plans to begin testing Web sites where businesses can pay taxes and citizens can learn about benefits and social services. It's also exploring how to verify the identity of users so the sites can share private information.
Microsoft's Passport is being considered as a way to authenticate users of the Web sites, said Mark Forman, associate director of information technology at the White House.
"They are involved in that discussion,'' he said, adding that the government has not yet selected which technology it will use.
Forman, who is overseeing the government's purchases of $100 billion worth of technology this year and next, was a featured speaker at the Microsoft Government Leaders Conference in Seattle this week.
Forman is a former Senate staffer who worked for IBM and Unisys before he joined the Bush administration.
Describing himself as the government's chief information officer, he said his priorities are to impose businesslike approaches for technology deployments and to monitor improvements they bring.
After the Sept. 11 attacks, some politicians and business leaders have called for a national identification card, but Forman said that's not in the works. "We don't have any plans for a national ID card," he said.
The White House is instead pursuing an "e-identification" initiative, an effort to develop ways to authenticate people and businesses online who already have government identification numbers such as Social Security, business-registration and employer-identification numbers.
At the government-leaders conference, attended by representatives of 75 countries, Microsoft presented a blueprint for its "e-government" strategy that suggests they use Passport to verify the identity of visitors to their Web sites. It also suggested that its bCentral business Web site could be used to process business tax payments and that citizens could use its MSN Web site to handle address changes and voter registration.
Governments have long been some of Microsoft's biggest customers. Its desktop software for office workers and back-end software running networks are widely by used by state and federal agencies, and the company has developed Internet portals for the United Kingdom, Mexico and other nations.
But getting the United States to use Passport to authenticate its 285 million citizens online would be a coup for the Redmond software company. It would also be a large step toward fulfilling Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates' stated goal of getting everyone on the Internet to use Passport as their sign-on tool.
Yesterday, appearing at the conference, Gates reiterated the goal, saying he expects governments in many countries will find it difficult getting to "critical mass" with authentication systems they develop on their own. He said some governments may opt to use companies such as Microsoft or America Online as "the bank" that registers people for online usage.
Passport was introduced in 1999 and is the keystone of an array of online services the company introduced a year ago, when Gates revealed his ambitions for the service.
After privacy advocates attacked the plan and a coalition of major corporations formed an alliance to develop standards for authentication systems that would work together, Microsoft toned down its approach. It now acknowledges that Passport will co-exist with other tools.
Forman said his team has also been contacted by the coalition, called the Liberty Alliance, and will meet with them at some point.
The current version of Passport requires little personal information other than an e-mail address, but a new, more secure version expected by mid-2003 may be used to store sensitive data on Microsoft's network.
Microsoft says it has 200 million people registered to use Passport, most of whom signed up because Microsoft told them it was needed to use other Microsoft services, such as its free Hotmail e-mail service or Windows XP operating system. According to Gartner, a research company based in Stamford, Conn., only 2 percent signed up because of the service's stated purpose: to avoid having to use multiple identifications and passwords at different Web sites.
Avivah Litan, vice president and research director at Gartner, said expanding Passport benefits Microsoft by drawing more Web traffic, making its sites more appealing to advertisers and enabling the company to charge "click through" fees for online sales executed using the service.
But the company may ultimately decide it's not worthwhile to boost the service from a tool of convenience for consumers to a verification service relied upon by businesses and government.
"Once you start vouching for identity, that makes you liable for fraud, that makes you liable for identity theft," Litan said.
Also at the conference, Microsoft announced plans to bring Internet access to government services to Mexico through a network of kiosks developed with the company's technology.
There won't be one.
From their FAQ:
Are there any plans to port a Linux version?
We are currently developing WarCraft III for the PC and Macintosh and have no plans for versions on
other operating systems.
From the WC III FAQ: Are there any plans to port a Linux version?
We are currently developing WarCraft III for the PC and Macintosh and have no plans for versions on other operating systems.
Would have been nice to know if was going to be available under OSX or Classic. Perhaps I just missed where it was listed??
I have three cats, I know they can't see when they are born.
:)
That said, I'm often an idiot.
No, it'd only be Bcc: if they had poked it's eyes out.
be the basis of a new encryption system?
:)
SecureGene 1.0! Now available in fine stores everywhere!
Maybe it should be the basis of a new audio codec - it's pretty small in the first place.
I want my MPGene!
OS Resale might be the answer to your problems. :)
Are there any groups that are actively standing out against spam and lobbying the politicians? If so, I'm ready to join, if not, I need to start one.
:)
http://www.cauce.org/
"CAUCE began as a discussion group called SPAM-LAW, which was an outgrowth of another list called SPAM-L, the Spam Prevention and Discussion List. A number of people who participated in SPAM-L felt that legislation was necessary to stop spam from choking the life out of the Internet. To keep the list topic focused, it was decided to create a separate list, the SPAM-LAW list, to discuss options on how to further legislation to prevent spam."
HTH.
The objectification of people as sexual objects is the primary cause of violence.
[gems] sparkle in some people's eyes and are thought of as a means to buy sexual company.
So why aren't you out fighting to buy Veronica Moser a diamond ring?
Really? I tried Redhat 7.2 on a PII-333 with 128 MB, and the whole system... ground... to..... a...... halt.
.11 snapshots and have had no real problems with it either.
Hrm. I did have to do a text install on the P233, but had no problems other than that with RH 7.2. on either machine. The entire install process took about an hour for each machine. *shrug* I've been using evolution exclusively since about the