...than people had feared. According to this article that was posted to Fark yesterday... the school administration, aka the ones who voted to include ID in the curriculum, didn't even bother to research the concept at all.
A couple of choice quotes from one of the Einsteins on that board:
"They said it was a scientific thing," said Geesey, who added that "it wasn't my job" to learn more about intelligent design because she didn't serve on the curriculum committee."
and
"The only people in the school district with a scientific background were opposed to intelligent design... and you ignored them?" he asked.
Yep, and Americans in the 1930's and 1940's didn't think the cute guy/girl they dated for a couple of months in college were any big deal. They didn't think writing a book report for a class was any big deal.
Then along came Senator Joseph McCarthy...
Re:This is why Linux isn't more popular....
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...With Windows, you can download an installation file and know it'll install on any Windows box without any problem. With Linux, you get all sorts of package dependency crap that is simply unacceptable to real users...
Hardly, unless the winbox is totally unsecured, as most are out of the box, unfortunately - and that's why spyware/worms/viruses run so rampant. If the winbox has been setup for security, having seperate user/admin accounts (as should be the case) it's:
Find and download $PROGRAM to install Damn, it's in "compressed" format Go find $DECOMPRESSOR and download Scan $DECOMPRESSOR for viruses Install $DECOMPRESSOR Crap, I'm not admin Log in as admin Install $DECOMPRESSOR Reboot Log in Scan $PROGRAM for viruses Decompress $PROGRAM Doubleclick exe/msi installer Crap, I'm not admin Log in as admin Doubleclick exe/msi installer Click "Next" to continue Accept 27 page EULA Click "Next" to continue Confirm "install type", full/minimal/custom Click "Next" to continue Confirm/alter install path Click "Next" to continue Do you want a program group created? y/n Click "Next" to continue Do you want a desktop icon created? y/n Click "Next" to continue Watch progress bar... Click "Next" to continue Do you want to read the README.txt now? y/n Click "Next" to continue Do you want to create a desktop shortcut? y/n Click "Next" to continue Do you want to run the internet updater? y/n If Y, click "Next" to continue to repeat previous instructions, if N, then click "Next" to continue $PROGRAM has been installed to $PATHBLAHBLAH, please register, would you like to do so now? y/n Click "Next" to continue Installation complete, Click "Exit" to finish You must reboot for changes to take effect, do you want to reboot now? Reboot/Cancel Reboot Log in Click on desktop icon that was created even though 'No' was answered for that question Use $PROGRAM
So that's less difficult than:
Click on the menu Synaptic [insert yast, urmpi, whatever] Enter root pass Find $PROGRAM Install $PROGRAM Close Synaptic Use $PROGRAM
Please... _please_ stop getting "news" about Linux/OSS from zdnet blogs... they're nothing, and have as yet been nothing, but inflamitory bullshit designed to increase adhits.
The band Scatterbrain, aka Ludichrist, had a song called Goodbye Freedom, Hello Mom about 15 years back, sounds like they weren't far off...
We'll ban that book and T.V. show, Forget that movie, no you can't go. Can't sell that record, don't like that song. We know what's right we know what's wrong. Can't have abortions, what's yours ain't yours, Just obey the laws. Too young to drink, say no to drugs...
Bikers wear helmets, cars safety belts You might hurt yourself. We're watching out, We're watching out We're watching out for you...
Well the new right's been at work some time They ain't so new no more Can you hear 'em knockin' Knockin' down your door. 1984 has past, forget about Big Brother, Welcome to the 90's where the government's your mother....
They'll tell you - don't do that. They'll try and tell you - it's for your own good. Big Mother is watching you Mother's protecting you Mommy knows what's right for you...
Goodbye Freedom, Hello Mom The Bill of Rights just disappeared There it is - whoops it's gone! Goodbye Freedom, Hello Mom All your rights just disappeared Everybody stay calm....
Good stuff:)
What's that old saying?
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...The good news about the GUI-based environment is that it's typically fairly easy to pick up a new Windows tool and figure it out. For the semi-casual administrator/developer, that can be immensely useful...
Sorry, but what would a "semi-casual administrator/developer" be doing with $40 grand worth of systems? You'd hope that with money like that being spent, there was nothing "casual" about it.
Ok, guess it's time to pull out my "certs don't mean jack" story here once again...
Since my sister lives several hundred miles away, I'm saved from most "family tech support issues". Her Win98 computer wasn't running so fast a couple of years back, so she decided to add more ram to it to speed things up. Her husband took it to his "MCSE & A+ Certified buddy at work(TM)" to get the job done. "MCSE & A+ Certified buddy at work(TM)" proceeded to drop a screwdriver onto the mobo when it was powered and fried it. He also had the nerve to charge them for a new motherboard, but at least the ram got installed. I was visiting a couple of months later when my sister mentioned that she couldn't get any sound when she tried to play a CD. As I was already almost seething when she'd told me about the motherboard, I figured I knew exactly what the deal was. I peered in through the back to, sure enough, see that "MCSE & A+ Certified buddy at work(TM)" hadn't reconnected the CD audio cable and it was just dangling there. I then grabbed a screwdriver to open the case to connect the cable. Seems "MCSE & A+ Certified buddy at work(TM)" lost the case screws, so "MCSE & A+ Certified buddy at work(TM)" POP-RIVETED THE GOD DAMN CASE SHUT. Another half hour, a drill, and migraine later, she once again had CD audio working.
So, yes... certs might look good on paper, but they don't mean jack when it comes to knowledge.
The laptop I'm typing this on is a Dell Latitude CP 233/128 cirica 1997 running Debian Unstable (Sid). It's also running KDE 3.4.1 - not by any means quickly, but the machine's rock solid other than the crappy pcmcia NIC I have. I'm running Sid because of the later KDE packages than Sarge (Stable) has. This latest version of KDE is considerably better on the overhead than the 3.3.x versions, imo, especially if you minimize the eye candy you use. I could certainly be running a [sic] 'lesser' window manager likde Icewm, blackbox, or even XFCE, but my main desktop machine runs KDE and I like to be able to use those same apps when mobile. Since this laptop is what I've got to use for work, it's got KDE 3.4.1.
I have zero complaints about usability. Things take a bit longer to start up than on my P-III 800 at home, but it's nothing I can't deal with. The only thing that pains me to start is OpenOffice - I like to have a good book nearby if I fire that up, or take that opportunity to hit the bathroom.
I did try Ubuntu on this machine, but I wasn't satisified with their package contents in their repo's. And yes, I know I can mix in Debian's, but I prefer to stay supported when I can. I personally haven't seen an advantage in using Ubuntu, but I'm sure others (w)could argue with me about that until we're blue in the face. Ubuntu uses a bit of a modified Debian Installer, so if you can install Ubuntu, you can install Debian.
I can't say anything about Mandriva as I've not gone near them since a support fiasco way back with Mandrake 8.2. I haven't trusted them since then, and its likely I won't again.
Slashdot Mirror
... that exists is the aneurism that's growing in my brain because /. keeps getting "news" about OSS from friggen ZDNET.
Haha, and how fitting that the turing test to make this post was "travestry".
Let's look at this cynically...
Yes, and perhaps Microsoft can weasel a little last minute provision in there mandating Microsoft "Trusted Computing" be used on all govt machines...
adjusts tinfoil hat
...than people had feared.
... and you ignored them?" he asked.
According to this article that was posted to Fark yesterday... the school administration, aka the ones who voted to include ID in the curriculum, didn't even bother to research the concept at all.
A couple of choice quotes from one of the Einsteins on that board:
"They said it was a scientific thing," said Geesey, who added that "it wasn't my job" to learn more about intelligent design because she didn't serve on the curriculum committee."
and
"The only people in the school district with a scientific background were opposed to intelligent design
"Yes," Geesey said."
Grade-A fucking scary.
Heh.
Once upon a time it was "embrace and extend", now it's "saturate, diffuse, and confuse".
Thre was a deal a while back, and I don't recall exactly who put the slogan type thing out, but it's along the lines of:
Wouldn't it be great if your computer...
Now it can.
Get what you want.
Get Linux.
Yep, and Americans in the 1930's and 1940's didn't think the cute guy/girl they dated for a couple of months in college were any big deal. They didn't think writing a book report for a class was any big deal.
Then along came Senator Joseph McCarthy...
...With Windows, you can download an installation file and know it'll install on any Windows box without any problem. With Linux, you get all sorts of package dependency crap that is simply unacceptable to real users...
Hardly, unless the winbox is totally unsecured, as most are out of the box, unfortunately - and that's why spyware/worms/viruses run so rampant. If the winbox has been setup for security, having seperate user/admin accounts (as should be the case) it's:
Find and download $PROGRAM to install
Damn, it's in "compressed" format
Go find $DECOMPRESSOR and download
Scan $DECOMPRESSOR for viruses
Install $DECOMPRESSOR
Crap, I'm not admin
Log in as admin
Install $DECOMPRESSOR
Reboot
Log in
Scan $PROGRAM for viruses
Decompress $PROGRAM
Doubleclick exe/msi installer
Crap, I'm not admin
Log in as admin
Doubleclick exe/msi installer
Click "Next" to continue
Accept 27 page EULA
Click "Next" to continue
Confirm "install type", full/minimal/custom
Click "Next" to continue
Confirm/alter install path
Click "Next" to continue
Do you want a program group created? y/n
Click "Next" to continue
Do you want a desktop icon created? y/n
Click "Next" to continue
Watch progress bar...
Click "Next" to continue
Do you want to read the README.txt now? y/n
Click "Next" to continue
Do you want to create a desktop shortcut? y/n
Click "Next" to continue
Do you want to run the internet updater? y/n
If Y, click "Next" to continue to repeat previous instructions, if N, then click "Next" to continue
$PROGRAM has been installed to $PATHBLAHBLAH, please register, would you like to do so now? y/n
Click "Next" to continue
Installation complete, Click "Exit" to finish
You must reboot for changes to take effect, do you want to reboot now? Reboot/Cancel
Reboot
Log in
Click on desktop icon that was created even though 'No' was answered for that question
Use $PROGRAM
So that's less difficult than:
Click on the menu
Synaptic [insert yast, urmpi, whatever]
Enter root pass
Find $PROGRAM
Install $PROGRAM
Close Synaptic
Use $PROGRAM
Um... ok.
...but only about half of it was ads. The rest of it consisted of, mostly, hardware and software reviews...
Guess what?
Those were ads too.
or the myriad of zdnet blog entries posted as "news" in recent months
I've been saying that for weeks now.
Article?
It was a blog entry... a damned zdnet blog entry at that.
Please... _please_ stop getting "news" about Linux/OSS from zdnet blogs... they're nothing, and have as yet been nothing, but inflamitory bullshit designed to increase adhits.
Now back to your scheduled flamewar.
The band Scatterbrain, aka Ludichrist, had a song called Goodbye Freedom, Hello Mom about 15 years back, sounds like they weren't far off...
...
...
...
...
:)
We'll ban that book and T.V. show,
Forget that movie, no you can't go.
Can't sell that record, don't like that song.
We know what's right we know what's wrong.
Can't have abortions, what's yours ain't yours,
Just obey the laws.
Too young to drink, say no to drugs
Bikers wear helmets, cars safety belts
You might hurt yourself.
We're watching out, We're watching out
We're watching out for you...
Well the new right's been at work some time
They ain't so new no more
Can you hear 'em knockin'
Knockin' down your door.
1984 has past, forget about Big Brother,
Welcome to the 90's where the government's your
mother.
They'll tell you - don't do that.
They'll try and tell you - it's for your own good.
Big Mother is watching you
Mother's protecting you
Mommy knows what's right for you
Goodbye Freedom, Hello Mom
The Bill of Rights just disappeared
There it is - whoops it's gone!
Goodbye Freedom, Hello Mom
All your rights just disappeared
Everybody stay calm.
Good stuff
I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees
Tell me what they AREN'T changing.
Their network security model.
or even doing a mouse-over on the links... I'm going guess that this is from what... another zdnet blog?
Well, am I correct?
Come on slashdot. Stop getting "news" about Linux/OSS from fucking zdnet.
And How many times...
Is slashdot going to keep posting OSS/Linux "news" from frikken zdnet and frikken zdnet blogs...
...The good news about the GUI-based environment is that it's typically fairly easy to pick up a new Windows tool and figure it out. For the semi-casual administrator/developer, that can be immensely useful...
Sorry, but what would a "semi-casual administrator/developer" be doing with $40 grand worth of systems? You'd hope that with money like that being spent, there was nothing "casual" about it.
Funny, I click the "Enable Digital Audio" checkbox, and I've never had to connect a CD Audio cable.
That's nice, but not available until win98se.
Ok, guess it's time to pull out my "certs don't mean jack" story here once again...
Since my sister lives several hundred miles away, I'm saved from most "family tech support issues". Her Win98 computer wasn't running so fast a couple of years back, so she decided to add more ram to it to speed things up. Her husband took it to his "MCSE & A+ Certified buddy at work(TM)" to get the job done.
"MCSE & A+ Certified buddy at work(TM)" proceeded to drop a screwdriver onto the mobo when it was powered and fried it. He also had the nerve to charge them for a new motherboard, but at least the ram got installed.
I was visiting a couple of months later when my sister mentioned that she couldn't get any sound when she tried to play a CD. As I was already almost seething when she'd told me about the motherboard, I figured I knew exactly what the deal was. I peered in through the back to, sure enough, see that "MCSE & A+ Certified buddy at work(TM)" hadn't reconnected the CD audio cable and it was just dangling there. I then grabbed a screwdriver to open the case to connect the cable.
Seems "MCSE & A+ Certified buddy at work(TM)" lost the case screws, so "MCSE & A+ Certified buddy at work(TM)" POP-RIVETED THE GOD DAMN CASE SHUT.
Another half hour, a drill, and migraine later, she once again had CD audio working.
So, yes... certs might look good on paper, but they don't mean jack when it comes to knowledge.
No, it looks to me like slashdot is once again getting it's "news" about OSS projects from a ^&#$^&%#^& zdnet blog.
clicky clicky
It might be a bit twisted, but it might also get the job done simply...
The laptop I'm typing this on is a Dell Latitude CP 233/128 cirica 1997 running Debian Unstable (Sid). It's also running KDE 3.4.1 - not by any means quickly, but the machine's rock solid other than the crappy pcmcia NIC I have.
I'm running Sid because of the later KDE packages than Sarge (Stable) has. This latest version of KDE is considerably better on the overhead than the 3.3.x versions, imo, especially if you minimize the eye candy you use. I could certainly be running a [sic] 'lesser' window manager likde Icewm, blackbox, or even XFCE, but my main desktop machine runs KDE and I like to be able to use those same apps when mobile. Since this laptop is what I've got to use for work, it's got KDE 3.4.1.
I have zero complaints about usability. Things take a bit longer to start up than on my P-III 800 at home, but it's nothing I can't deal with. The only thing that pains me to start is OpenOffice - I like to have a good book nearby if I fire that up, or take that opportunity to hit the bathroom.
I did try Ubuntu on this machine, but I wasn't satisified with their package contents in their repo's. And yes, I know I can mix in Debian's, but I prefer to stay supported when I can. I personally haven't seen an advantage in using Ubuntu, but I'm sure others (w)could argue with me about that until we're blue in the face. Ubuntu uses a bit of a modified Debian Installer, so if you can install Ubuntu, you can install Debian.
I can't say anything about Mandriva as I've not gone near them since a support fiasco way back with Mandrake 8.2. I haven't trusted them since then, and its likely I won't again.
...obviously doesn't understand...
He _does_ understand. He's just trolling for ad hits.
Not only stolen code, but infringing code as well.