Nope. And unless it is made the traditional way using fermentation, it is fairly indigestible and very unhealthy. I don't even think there is any fermented soy available in the US, so it's probably best to just avoid it when possible.
It seems that the tensile strength of the liquid would allow some fluids to work in a vacuum. Water, due to it's very strong tensile strength, will still work in a siphon in a vacuum. If there was a low tensile fluid in the siphon, it would do like you said. Perhaps the gap between two separating parts of the fluid would itself be a vacuum or near vacuum as some of the fluid might evaporate due to low pressure in the forming gap. Again from the wikipedia article:
in the laboratory, some siphons have been demonstrated to work in a vacuum – see vacuum siphons – indicating the tensile strength of the liquid is contributing to the operation of siphons at very low pressures.
And the paragraph on vacuum siphons mentioned says this:
Experiments have shown that siphons can operate in a vacuum, via cohesion and tensile strength between molecules, provided that the liquids are pure and degassed and surfaces are very clean.
I have found this discussion very insightful as I have had to think and learn a lot more about what makes a siphon actually work than I have bothered to do in the past. It's nice to increase one's understanding of the world.
It would seem you have the common misunderstanding of how a siphon works. Pasted below is a section from the wikipedia article on siphons. Note how the siphon works even when there are air bubbles in the tube. Thus no cohesiveness needed.
An occasional misunderstanding of siphons is that they rely on the tensile strength of the liquid to pull the liquid up and over the rise.[6][13] While water has been found to have a great deal of tensile strength in some experiments (such as with the z-tube[14]), and siphons in vacuum rely on such cohesion, common siphons can easily be demonstrated to need no liquid tensile strength at all to function.[4][6][13] Furthermore, since common siphons operate at positive pressures throughout the siphon, there is no contribution from liquid tensile strength, because the molecules are actually repelling each other in order to resist the pressure, rather than pulling on each other.[4] To demonstrate, the longer lower leg of a common siphon can be plugged at the bottom and filled almost to the crest with liquid as in Figure 4, leaving the top and the shorter upper leg completely dry and containing only air. When the plug is removed and the liquid in the longer lower leg is allowed to fall, the liquid in the upper reservoir will then typically sweep the air bubble down and out of the tube. The apparatus will then continue to operate as a siphon. As there is no contact between the liquid on either side of the siphon at the beginning of this experiment, there can be no cohesion between the liquid molecules to pull the liquid over the rise.
Some of these posts have shown me that gravity is the force involved. But it seems to be a bit of a trick. Atmospheric pressure is also due to gravity. So the air pressure, or water pressure in the mercury example, are ultimately due to gravity. The only example that tries to take air pressure completely out of the equation, by running the siphon in a vacuum chamber, will not work unless the fluid has insufficient tension capabilities. So it does seem to be a combination of both, as in a normal siphon the water in the tube is under pressure, not tension. The air pressure is pushing the water up the tube, it's not being pulled up the tube. The only reason the air pressure pushes the water up the tube is because the water in the downward side of the siphon has fallen down, due to gravity, and made less pressure at the top of the tube.
Actually, the wikipedia article on siphons shows an experiment done by Pascal where two beakers of mercury were positioned with a siphon between them. But in this version, the siphon had a third tube projecting upwards from where the top of the bend in the siphon is. The whole thing, excepting the end of the upward projecting tube, was positioned under water. So there is no ability for a vacuum to form in the siphon tube since it is open to air. The mercury still moved from the higher beaker to the lower from the pressure of the water. From this experiment, it would seem that this guy has it wrong and it is the pressure that pushes the fluid up and through the siphon.
I think it's kind of funny how the slashdot community uses xkcd comics pretty regularly by posting just the link. It always reminds me of the joke where everyone just shouts out the number of the joke and the rest of the group laughs. I have pasted the joke below for those who have not heard it before.
In a bar in a remote Alaskan town, a newcomer hears people yell out numbers (#23!, #56, etc.) and then everyone laughs. He asks the guy next to him what's going on, and he says the jokes have been told so many times, people just yell out their numbers instead of retelling them. So he yells out #27! but nobody laughs. The guy next to him says, "Some people can tell a joke, and some people can't."
if 90% vote against it the sponsors of the bill get permanently ejected from federal government work.
I like this idea. I would only add that the sponsors also get the guillotine. Otherwise someone else can try to adjust the wording of the law a little bit and keep trying to slip it through. We need zero tolerance for the people who abuse the constitution and pass illegal laws.
Which just shows that the "anonymous" call was actually placed by the DEA or NSA or whoever had some illegally gotten information. Remember how they like to perform what they call "Parallel Construction". And now the supreme court has ruled that OK.
Does it create the possibility that 64 players will be roaming room to room with silencers in a hotel while ignoring the rest of a large map? Yes, and that's perfect.
So you think a perfect game will be one where the level is so large and with so many rooms and buildings with hundreds of floors that nobody ever spots anybody else. Basically you want to play Battlefield by yourself? That sounds pretty boring to most people who want to actually find other people so they can shoot at them.
[BTW, turtles-all-the-way-down means that our god is the worst god of all. Since he was unable to create a being capable of creating a universe.]
Unless we someday create a new universe! This could be by starting a new Big Bang in one of the empty spaces of our universe, or by creating a powerful simulation where the life forms inside it think it is reality or really, it would be their reality. Nobody said we have to create the new universe immediately.
"We can survive bacteria, viruses and parasites and wounds"
So can most animals otherwise the most complex life would still be a sponge. And to use my dog as an example again - he can happily drink water from streams and puddles that would put me on the toilet for 2 days.
If you drank water from the puddles and streams often you would probably not end up on the toilet. Don't the people in Mexico (or other countries where they tell tourists not to drink the water) drink the water just fine?
It is a very good tactic for getting a child to do what you want. You make them feel that they had a choice even if it didn't matter at all. "You can have your bath either before or after dinner." But either way they are having a bath! Once I have heard about that trick and how it applies to politics I can see it in use a lot.
It isn't the designing that CAD falls short. It is in the manufacturing process.
An example that I saw that is not directly related to CAD design, but was due to one-off hand build prototype that does not lend itself to assembly line manufacturing: There were bolts where the head was inside of an assembly and you could not get to them to put it together. Now a good CAD engineer should notice that and not design it that way in the first place. These people did not so much design the machine, the just built it and got it working and then we took over manufacturing it for them. We did some quick re-design of some parts to make it easier and quicker to assemble. But it is very conceivable that even with a good CAD engineer you might not notice improvements that could be made during the manufacture of the part. The CAD designs are concerned with what the finished part looks like, not so much the material the part is made out of before it is machined or stamped or whatever process it goes through.
Some people still try to debate things that are already settled and others look for solutions before everything becomes a problem. Mankind has a huge list of fuckups to fix - but we either continue as is or we continue to try to improve things. Your viewpoint is incredibly pessimistic. Very few people would say life was better 200 years ago than it is today. Let's take that viewpoint and move forward with it.. We need more Star Trek and less Water World.
Either way, we should be investigating options like these.. You're being pessimistic during the initial stages of discussion - so it brings very little to the table.
/sarcasm/ Yep, and we should be investigating on more species that we can introduce to new areas that they currently don't live. Because that works out so well./sarcasm/
Some things are impossible to fix once you mess them up. There is no putting the genii back into the bottle once you open it, so you have to tread very carefully or things will surely get worse.
I like your post, very reasoned thoughts and I would say I agree with you in general. I would only lean towards the altered vaccine schedule as that might also help with the overloading of the immune system or whatever might be the cause.
The real reason I am posting is just a little fact as I understand it about the aluminum in the vaccines. It may serve as a preservative, but I believe the main function is to activate the person's immune system. Without the aluminum, the immune system does not always detect that there is something to react to for making the antibodies and thus, the vaccine is much less effective. I found that to be an interesting idea, that the dead or deactivated virus may not cause your immune system to react, so they add something else that helps to get the immune system all fired up where it will then discover the deactivated virus particles and make the antibodies desired from getting the vaccine.
Yeah, Tetanus can be nasty. And I think the vaccine is worth getting. It is worth pointing out that it is also treatable after getting it if you go to the doctor within a reasonable time frame. So it isn't quite as bad of a thing to get as it used to be.
It sucks when your clock doesn't start until you have gone through the badge swipe doors. Then you want the closest spot possible. Why give them the 10 minutes for free!
From a simple analysis I have a couple of answers. One: It's marketing! Our laptop has more ram, or faster Mhz, or shinier screen, on whatever. Just like all the bullet points for a software package, even though most of them don't matter or are basic functions that don't even deserve to be pointed out. So saying the market place has millions of apps sounds better than saying it has thousands. Two: If only one percent of the apps are any good you are more likely to find one that does what you want and is a good one from a market of 1,000,000+ over a market that has only 100,000. Three: It's not it Apple, Google, or Microsoft's benefit to turn away developers who want to pay them money for a developers licence. The more the merrier.
When people believe in gods that can't invent wireless camera phones
Yeah, because if it suddenly started raining iPhones in 5 A.D., that totally wouldn't have turned anybody into gibbering lunatics.
No. if it started raining iPhones, then science would come up with an explanation of how iPhones can be formed in the upper atmosphere via molecular accumulation and then fall from the clouds once fully accumulated. Science can explain everything you know! Just look at the Big Bang and the expansion of the universe and all that other amazing stuff!
The blue turtle shells are the ones that fly in and target the person in first place. If you want to unlock everything you need to get a star grade ranking in every course, that is better than the A grade that I would have thought is the best. And when looking at our old save game, we had D in courses that we got gold cups in, so the star ranking has something to do with how well you race, I think you have to be in first place for 70% or the race or something. With all the items that blast you when you do good it is an exercise in random play rather than in your skill as a racer.
I have been watching "Alaska: The Last Frontier" lately. It's a documentary show about a homesteading family in Alaska. They like the hunter/farmer/subsistence lifestyle. It's pretty amazing watching what they have to do during the short summers to prepare for the long hard winter. And the people love the lifestyle and would not want to move into the civilized world. They certainly work hard each day doing things like hunting for food or growing their vegetables or chopping wood for heat, but at least they aren't working all day in a cube farm and end up with no time to spend with their families or be out in nature.
I don't know about the study, but the results are resonating with me. My wife and I have been playing the Mario Kart Wii version again because we realized we didn't unlock all the vehicles and characters. The controls suck and no matter how good you race you end up getting bombed by a blue turtle shell right before the finish line or something like that. And even when in the fastest bike and up to full speed, I watch all the other computer characters zip right past me in whatever cars and bikes they are in so I know the game cheats. You can also see cheating when you pick up a question mark box for the items. While you and a NPC both get a box at the same time, yours is still spinning while the NPC is using the item already. It's a fraking computer that can drive the perfect line and they make it have to cheat just to make it harder! Sometimes I want to punch the controller or throw it across the room. So I can definitely see that the control system or the feeling of the game cheating can have a much bigger effect on the players emotional control than the content of the game. The original Super Mario always pisses me off also because I feel that Mario has some sort of death wish and falls off the ground into pits no matter what I try to tell it to do with the control system they implemented.
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Nope. And unless it is made the traditional way using fermentation, it is fairly indigestible and very unhealthy. I don't even think there is any fermented soy available in the US, so it's probably best to just avoid it when possible.
So where was the market for all those overproduced E.T. game cartridges for the Atari 2600? They ended up in the landfill, remember.
It seems that the tensile strength of the liquid would allow some fluids to work in a vacuum. Water, due to it's very strong tensile strength, will still work in a siphon in a vacuum. If there was a low tensile fluid in the siphon, it would do like you said. Perhaps the gap between two separating parts of the fluid would itself be a vacuum or near vacuum as some of the fluid might evaporate due to low pressure in the forming gap. Again from the wikipedia article:
in the laboratory, some siphons have been demonstrated to work in a vacuum – see vacuum siphons – indicating the tensile strength of the liquid is contributing to the operation of siphons at very low pressures.
And the paragraph on vacuum siphons mentioned says this:
Experiments have shown that siphons can operate in a vacuum, via cohesion and tensile strength between molecules, provided that the liquids are pure and degassed and surfaces are very clean.
I have found this discussion very insightful as I have had to think and learn a lot more about what makes a siphon actually work than I have bothered to do in the past. It's nice to increase one's understanding of the world.
It would seem you have the common misunderstanding of how a siphon works. Pasted below is a section from the wikipedia article on siphons. Note how the siphon works even when there are air bubbles in the tube. Thus no cohesiveness needed.
An occasional misunderstanding of siphons is that they rely on the tensile strength of the liquid to pull the liquid up and over the rise.[6][13] While water has been found to have a great deal of tensile strength in some experiments (such as with the z-tube[14]), and siphons in vacuum rely on such cohesion, common siphons can easily be demonstrated to need no liquid tensile strength at all to function.[4][6][13] Furthermore, since common siphons operate at positive pressures throughout the siphon, there is no contribution from liquid tensile strength, because the molecules are actually repelling each other in order to resist the pressure, rather than pulling on each other.[4] To demonstrate, the longer lower leg of a common siphon can be plugged at the bottom and filled almost to the crest with liquid as in Figure 4, leaving the top and the shorter upper leg completely dry and containing only air. When the plug is removed and the liquid in the longer lower leg is allowed to fall, the liquid in the upper reservoir will then typically sweep the air bubble down and out of the tube. The apparatus will then continue to operate as a siphon. As there is no contact between the liquid on either side of the siphon at the beginning of this experiment, there can be no cohesion between the liquid molecules to pull the liquid over the rise.
Some of these posts have shown me that gravity is the force involved. But it seems to be a bit of a trick. Atmospheric pressure is also due to gravity. So the air pressure, or water pressure in the mercury example, are ultimately due to gravity. The only example that tries to take air pressure completely out of the equation, by running the siphon in a vacuum chamber, will not work unless the fluid has insufficient tension capabilities. So it does seem to be a combination of both, as in a normal siphon the water in the tube is under pressure, not tension. The air pressure is pushing the water up the tube, it's not being pulled up the tube. The only reason the air pressure pushes the water up the tube is because the water in the downward side of the siphon has fallen down, due to gravity, and made less pressure at the top of the tube.
Actually, the wikipedia article on siphons shows an experiment done by Pascal where two beakers of mercury were positioned with a siphon between them. But in this version, the siphon had a third tube projecting upwards from where the top of the bend in the siphon is. The whole thing, excepting the end of the upward projecting tube, was positioned under water. So there is no ability for a vacuum to form in the siphon tube since it is open to air. The mercury still moved from the higher beaker to the lower from the pressure of the water. From this experiment, it would seem that this guy has it wrong and it is the pressure that pushes the fluid up and through the siphon.
I think it's kind of funny how the slashdot community uses xkcd comics pretty regularly by posting just the link. It always reminds me of the joke where everyone just shouts out the number of the joke and the rest of the group laughs. I have pasted the joke below for those who have not heard it before.
In a bar in a remote Alaskan town, a newcomer hears people yell out numbers (#23!, #56, etc.) and then everyone laughs. He asks the guy next to him what's going on, and he says the jokes have been told so many times, people just yell out their numbers instead of retelling them. So he yells out #27! but nobody laughs. The guy next to him says, "Some people can tell a joke, and some people can't."
if 90% vote against it the sponsors of the bill get permanently ejected from federal government work.
I like this idea. I would only add that the sponsors also get the guillotine. Otherwise someone else can try to adjust the wording of the law a little bit and keep trying to slip it through. We need zero tolerance for the people who abuse the constitution and pass illegal laws.
Which just shows that the "anonymous" call was actually placed by the DEA or NSA or whoever had some illegally gotten information. Remember how they like to perform what they call "Parallel Construction". And now the supreme court has ruled that OK.
Does it create the possibility that 64 players will be roaming room to room with silencers in a hotel while ignoring the rest of a large map? Yes, and that's perfect.
So you think a perfect game will be one where the level is so large and with so many rooms and buildings with hundreds of floors that nobody ever spots anybody else. Basically you want to play Battlefield by yourself? That sounds pretty boring to most people who want to actually find other people so they can shoot at them.
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[BTW, turtles-all-the-way-down means that our god is the worst god of all. Since he was unable to create a being capable of creating a universe.]
Unless we someday create a new universe! This could be by starting a new Big Bang in one of the empty spaces of our universe, or by creating a powerful simulation where the life forms inside it think it is reality or really, it would be their reality. Nobody said we have to create the new universe immediately.
"We can survive bacteria, viruses and parasites and wounds"
So can most animals otherwise the most complex life would still be a sponge. And to use my dog as an example again - he can happily drink water from streams and puddles that would put me on the toilet for 2 days.
If you drank water from the puddles and streams often you would probably not end up on the toilet. Don't the people in Mexico (or other countries where they tell tourists not to drink the water) drink the water just fine?
It is a very good tactic for getting a child to do what you want. You make them feel that they had a choice even if it didn't matter at all. "You can have your bath either before or after dinner." But either way they are having a bath! Once I have heard about that trick and how it applies to politics I can see it in use a lot.
It isn't the designing that CAD falls short. It is in the manufacturing process.
An example that I saw that is not directly related to CAD design, but was due to one-off hand build prototype that does not lend itself to assembly line manufacturing: There were bolts where the head was inside of an assembly and you could not get to them to put it together. Now a good CAD engineer should notice that and not design it that way in the first place. These people did not so much design the machine, the just built it and got it working and then we took over manufacturing it for them. We did some quick re-design of some parts to make it easier and quicker to assemble. But it is very conceivable that even with a good CAD engineer you might not notice improvements that could be made during the manufacture of the part. The CAD designs are concerned with what the finished part looks like, not so much the material the part is made out of before it is machined or stamped or whatever process it goes through.
These debts are mostly from SSI aid to dependent children. The money is sent to the parents, but strictly speaking the children are the beneficiaries.
Interesting logic, so as a parent you could take out a loan with your child as liable for the debt... What could possibly go wrong :)
Ohh, ohh! I want to take out a loan with the IRS as liable for the debt. Turn about is fair play an all!
Some people still try to debate things that are already settled and others look for solutions before everything becomes a problem. Mankind has a huge list of fuckups to fix - but we either continue as is or we continue to try to improve things. Your viewpoint is incredibly pessimistic. Very few people would say life was better 200 years ago than it is today. Let's take that viewpoint and move forward with it.. We need more Star Trek and less Water World.
Either way, we should be investigating options like these.. You're being pessimistic during the initial stages of discussion - so it brings very little to the table.
/sarcasm/ Yep, and we should be investigating on more species that we can introduce to new areas that they currently don't live. Because that works out so well. /sarcasm/
Some things are impossible to fix once you mess them up. There is no putting the genii back into the bottle once you open it, so you have to tread very carefully or things will surely get worse.
I like your post, very reasoned thoughts and I would say I agree with you in general. I would only lean towards the altered vaccine schedule as that might also help with the overloading of the immune system or whatever might be the cause.
The real reason I am posting is just a little fact as I understand it about the aluminum in the vaccines. It may serve as a preservative, but I believe the main function is to activate the person's immune system. Without the aluminum, the immune system does not always detect that there is something to react to for making the antibodies and thus, the vaccine is much less effective. I found that to be an interesting idea, that the dead or deactivated virus may not cause your immune system to react, so they add something else that helps to get the immune system all fired up where it will then discover the deactivated virus particles and make the antibodies desired from getting the vaccine.
Yeah, Tetanus can be nasty. And I think the vaccine is worth getting. It is worth pointing out that it is also treatable after getting it if you go to the doctor within a reasonable time frame. So it isn't quite as bad of a thing to get as it used to be.
It sucks when your clock doesn't start until you have gone through the badge swipe doors. Then you want the closest spot possible. Why give them the 10 minutes for free!
From a simple analysis I have a couple of answers. One: It's marketing! Our laptop has more ram, or faster Mhz, or shinier screen, on whatever. Just like all the bullet points for a software package, even though most of them don't matter or are basic functions that don't even deserve to be pointed out. So saying the market place has millions of apps sounds better than saying it has thousands. Two: If only one percent of the apps are any good you are more likely to find one that does what you want and is a good one from a market of 1,000,000+ over a market that has only 100,000. Three: It's not it Apple, Google, or Microsoft's benefit to turn away developers who want to pay them money for a developers licence. The more the merrier.
When people believe in gods that can't invent wireless camera phones
Yeah, because if it suddenly started raining iPhones in 5 A.D., that totally wouldn't have turned anybody into gibbering lunatics.
No. if it started raining iPhones, then science would come up with an explanation of how iPhones can be formed in the upper atmosphere via molecular accumulation and then fall from the clouds once fully accumulated. Science can explain everything you know! Just look at the Big Bang and the expansion of the universe and all that other amazing stuff!
The blue turtle shells are the ones that fly in and target the person in first place. If you want to unlock everything you need to get a star grade ranking in every course, that is better than the A grade that I would have thought is the best. And when looking at our old save game, we had D in courses that we got gold cups in, so the star ranking has something to do with how well you race, I think you have to be in first place for 70% or the race or something. With all the items that blast you when you do good it is an exercise in random play rather than in your skill as a racer.
I think he means a baby made of stone!? Like the statues you see in fountains.
I have been watching "Alaska: The Last Frontier" lately. It's a documentary show about a homesteading family in Alaska. They like the hunter/farmer/subsistence lifestyle. It's pretty amazing watching what they have to do during the short summers to prepare for the long hard winter. And the people love the lifestyle and would not want to move into the civilized world. They certainly work hard each day doing things like hunting for food or growing their vegetables or chopping wood for heat, but at least they aren't working all day in a cube farm and end up with no time to spend with their families or be out in nature.
I don't know about the study, but the results are resonating with me. My wife and I have been playing the Mario Kart Wii version again because we realized we didn't unlock all the vehicles and characters. The controls suck and no matter how good you race you end up getting bombed by a blue turtle shell right before the finish line or something like that. And even when in the fastest bike and up to full speed, I watch all the other computer characters zip right past me in whatever cars and bikes they are in so I know the game cheats. You can also see cheating when you pick up a question mark box for the items. While you and a NPC both get a box at the same time, yours is still spinning while the NPC is using the item already. It's a fraking computer that can drive the perfect line and they make it have to cheat just to make it harder! Sometimes I want to punch the controller or throw it across the room. So I can definitely see that the control system or the feeling of the game cheating can have a much bigger effect on the players emotional control than the content of the game. The original Super Mario always pisses me off also because I feel that Mario has some sort of death wish and falls off the ground into pits no matter what I try to tell it to do with the control system they implemented.