Why, when more does exactly what I need it to do.:-)
I was just trolling on about everyone's obsession with less when more (contemporary versions anyway) is just as capable. More on a SunOS 5.4 machine sucks, but geez, that's 9 year old software...
Having come from a failed.com, let me tell you what little I know about rebranding. Take customers. You have customers. Important customers. The ones who've never migrated off of Novell 3.11/4 (whatever). Those customers are only going to stay on 3.x/4 for as long as their computers stay running. When those computers finally die, you don't want those customers, who don't know any better, getting any inkling that you've given up on them, because they'll go to your competitor.
Rebranding could hurt Novell in serious ways. For banks, I don't think it matters, a bank is a bank is a bank, and they are all out to screw us. For software though, a brand image (no matter how tarnished) is the difference between keeping a customer, and him fleeing to Microsoft.
How about you don't buy an xbox, that way, when the units don't sell, they get cut to disgusting prices, or even better, get sold into an overstock channel?
Why give them *ANY* money if you want to prevent them from increasing market share?
Such a silly argument. It's like advocating buying CD's but then breaking them into tiny bits and mailing them back to Sony to get back at the RIAA?
I fucking HATE less. Get that piece of shit out of my sight. If you have $PAGER=less, and you man "anything", if you quit "man/less" at a specific page, it clears the whole fucking screen, making it useless for on the fly command comprehension. It's the one default in SuSE that I utterly despise and wish they hadn't inflicted upon all my servers.
If the Russians can manage to get a Progress resupply vehicle to the ISS without killing the cosmonauts inside it, I have faith that American engineering can do the same with Hubble for 25x the cost.
SuSE at least picks sensible defaults, like bash color values that you can actually read when you need to list a directory, unlike RedHat's dark blue on black scheme. And the horrible vim highlighting... shudder.
While I like both, I spent more time configuring redhat to not be trivially annoying than I ever did SuSE.
I may be wrong, chances are good, it's happened once or twice... but how exactly can you "infringe trade secrets"? By definition, it's not secret anymore.
Not to say either the Judge or author isn't a complete moron...
Um, have you SEEN a Symmetrix? Are you sure you want just ANYONE touching that mass of drives, controllers and aluminum nastiness? Only with a sledgehammer, man...
Not really. If you knew about enough pulsars, their signatures and locations in the cosmos, you *COULD* in theory triangulate your position on earth. But you would also need to know where earth was in space relative to these pulsars. And that changes every day. I would think the software requirements would be more intensive than the plan we have now.
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Fuel is inconsequential when you have to bring food, water, and environmental processing facilities in your space ship to survive round trip times appraching 12-18 months.
Mars direct suffers from the same short-sightedness as Apollo. We only need 3 or 4 launchers, and we can end the program. There's no commitment for infrastructure, no design for construction vehicles, permanent occupation. Zubrin's plan is to launch lots of ships to lots of sites and basically leave them there, rather than launching lots of cargo to one site, building a space port, and exploring from there.
Interplanetary vehicles SHOULDN'T be launched from planet surface. It's like trying to drive your car over the ocean from N.Y. to London. We can take advantage of high-mass, high-efficiency, low-thrust engines in space, but not fighting planet gravity.
Um, millions of dollars of advertising is why we know about Nissan and Mazda. That, and the fact that car dealerships are notoriously placed right next to each other (one the same street even!!!) so figuring out there are choices is simple.
And every Linux distribution ships at least 4 different web browsers, so your comparison is somewhat (though not totally) flawed. Why whould Microsoft be no different? Oh, they wrote one? Big deal.
While I disagree on the above points, I agree with your conclusion. It's too far gone in the game to try and force anyones hand. So we take it underground. I've already converted a dozen people to Firefox because of recent virus trends (a recent LAN party infected ten computers).
Actually, I think it was the fact that IE was the ONLY guaranteed browser a user would have that started the glut of IE only applications. It's the reason a number of my custom intranet apps were targeted to IE before I got educated...
I'd sure like to see a reference... My googling hasn't turned up any (except one in Bolivia that led to one death due to depressurization from engine disintegration destroying windows) crashdatabase.com
Isn't the F15 the only aircraft known to have flown with only one wing? Israel AF pilot who lost a wing in a collision?
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http://tailslide.firelight.dynip.com/f15wing.as
Not disagreeing with the Lawn Dart analogy though...
He's Q. He can resurrect Data if he wishes...
Why, when more does exactly what I need it to do. :-)
I was just trolling on about everyone's obsession with less when more (contemporary versions anyway) is just as capable. More on a SunOS 5.4 machine sucks, but geez, that's 9 year old software...
Soos
Soos ee
Soos-uh <- official
soos-ay
soos-ee <- mine.
Having come from a failed .com, let me tell you what little I know about rebranding. Take customers. You have customers. Important customers. The ones who've never migrated off of Novell 3.11/4 (whatever). Those customers are only going to stay on 3.x/4 for as long as their computers stay running. When those computers finally die, you don't want those customers, who don't know any better, getting any inkling that you've given up on them, because they'll go to your competitor.
Rebranding could hurt Novell in serious ways. For banks, I don't think it matters, a bank is a bank is a bank, and they are all out to screw us. For software though, a brand image (no matter how tarnished) is the difference between keeping a customer, and him fleeing to Microsoft.
I was just introduced to this cfengine thing in another thread. I took a look at it, and I'm interested. Thanks for the tip!
How about you don't buy an xbox, that way, when the units don't sell, they get cut to disgusting prices, or even better, get sold into an overstock channel?
Why give them *ANY* money if you want to prevent them from increasing market share?
Such a silly argument. It's like advocating buying CD's but then breaking them into tiny bits and mailing them back to Sony to get back at the RIAA?
Less also has this freakish tendency to do a screen-clear when you exit, making it completely useless for reference work in a shell.
/etc/profile.
If someone has a way to make this stop, then I'll forgive less, but it still won't stop me from doing
PAGER=more
export PAGER
in
Please explain yourself. I personally find less annoying, but I'm old school...
I fucking HATE less. Get that piece of shit out of my sight. If you have $PAGER=less, and you man "anything", if you quit "man/less" at a specific page, it clears the whole fucking screen, making it useless for on the fly command comprehension. It's the one default in SuSE that I utterly despise and wish they hadn't inflicted upon all my servers.
If the Russians can manage to get a Progress resupply vehicle to the ISS without killing the cosmonauts inside it, I have faith that American engineering can do the same with Hubble for 25x the cost.
Why not SuSE x86_64? or amd64 even? ;-) And updates *ARE* free.
SuSE at least picks sensible defaults, like bash color values that you can actually read when you need to list a directory, unlike RedHat's dark blue on black scheme. And the horrible vim highlighting... shudder.
While I like both, I spent more time configuring redhat to not be trivially annoying than I ever did SuSE.
Evidence: the massive numbers of people going to Jiffy Lube and other quick-lube places. I've seen lines 2 hours long at some popular Jiffy Lubes.
I may be wrong, chances are good, it's happened once or twice... but how exactly can you "infringe trade secrets"? By definition, it's not secret anymore.
Not to say either the Judge or author isn't a complete moron...
Um, have you SEEN a Symmetrix? Are you sure you want just ANYONE touching that mass of drives, controllers and aluminum nastiness? Only with a sledgehammer, man...
Not really. If you knew about enough pulsars, their signatures and locations in the cosmos, you *COULD* in theory triangulate your position on earth. But you would also need to know where earth was in space relative to these pulsars. And that changes every day. I would think the software requirements would be more intensive than the plan we have now.
Fuel is inconsequential when you have to bring food, water, and environmental processing facilities in your space ship to survive round trip times appraching 12-18 months.
Mars direct suffers from the same short-sightedness as Apollo. We only need 3 or 4 launchers, and we can end the program. There's no commitment for infrastructure, no design for construction vehicles, permanent occupation. Zubrin's plan is to launch lots of ships to lots of sites and basically leave them there, rather than launching lots of cargo to one site, building a space port, and exploring from there.
Interplanetary vehicles SHOULDN'T be launched from planet surface. It's like trying to drive your car over the ocean from N.Y. to London. We can take advantage of high-mass, high-efficiency, low-thrust engines in space, but not fighting planet gravity.
Wouldn't that be a monty python quote? Help Help, I'm being repressed?!
Um, millions of dollars of advertising is why we know about Nissan and Mazda. That, and the fact that car dealerships are notoriously placed right next to each other (one the same street even!!!) so figuring out there are choices is simple.
And every Linux distribution ships at least 4 different web browsers, so your comparison is somewhat (though not totally) flawed. Why whould Microsoft be no different? Oh, they wrote one? Big deal.
While I disagree on the above points, I agree with your conclusion. It's too far gone in the game to try and force anyones hand. So we take it underground. I've already converted a dozen people to Firefox because of recent virus trends (a recent LAN party infected ten computers).
Actually, I think it was the fact that IE was the ONLY guaranteed browser a user would have that started the glut of IE only applications. It's the reason a number of my custom intranet apps were targeted to IE before I got educated...
Ummm... hasn't Netscape been free for non-commercial use for it's entire lifetime?
Which is why they invented ripstop. YOu know, that stuff sailboats use to keep their sails from getting destroyed when a seagull crashes through 'em?
And the big key is this: only about a dozen countries and organizations have done it WITH government backing.
I'd sure like to see a reference... My googling hasn't turned up any (except one in Bolivia that led to one death due to depressurization from engine disintegration destroying windows) crashdatabase.com