Um yeah.... If they were attempting to kill non-US citizens on non-US territory, the US would have no right to hold them. That doesn't mean it would be "ok", but it would be Canada's job to arrest and hold them. And don't think that they wouldn't.
Yeah - if I were a non-American I might be interested in knocking America down a peg on the world super power scale, and then I'd want John Kerry too... Of course, since I'm American I'm going to vote for who will do the best job for Americans. Given the two choices, I'll have to grit my teeth and vote for Bush. Yeah, he pushed that horrible "no child left behind" (and none can get ahead either) act, but he turned a recession around, and I haven't seen US territory get hit with another major attack in the last three years.
Turning a PC remotely on seems to me like it would require hardware (wake on LAN or a management card). Turning a PC off remotely is as easy as opening an SSH session and issuing a shutdown.
As for the other innovation that they mention: Searches will extend across all data like e-mail, photos, Word. "We're creating things," he says.
I can search email and most document types with find/grep. Photos? What am I going to search except for the file name? I can do that with find also. And oddly enough, Windows 2000 (hell, even 95) supports this, and Windows XP broke it so it would only work with certain file types. This is innovation?
The Brits are extremely pompous and annoying, but at least we can thank them for Led Zep, Pink Floyd, The Beatles, The Who, The Clash, and others. Ireland? Forget it.
Reasonably lawful? Mass murder, government supported rape and torture, these are examples of a "reasonably lawful" control? Wow...
Yeah, there are bad things about this war - there are about any war, but that was some statement.
By the way... I love how everyone seems to forget two things. First that Russia gave the US intelligence that Saddam had plans to attack the US on our soil, and second that there was massive support for this war at the time that it started - including from John Kerry and Jon Edwards.
Iraq planned attacks against the US. And that came from Vladimir Putin. He and the Russian intelligence community told our government about these plans in the time leading up to our operations in Iraq.
WMDs have been found in small quantities - just not the stockpiles that had been claimed. Also the engines required for delivery of these weapons (engines which were banned themselves) have been found among scrap metal sent to other countries from Iraq during the time in which the inspections were going on.
I don't remember a connection directly to 9/11 being hyped by anyone in the administration. Sure, there was press speculation of Iraq financially backing it, but that's all. The administration said that there were ties to al Qaeda regarding training with chemical weapons. The types that have been found in small quantities, and the types that an al Qaeda member caught in Saudi Arabia a couple months ago admitted he'd been trained on in Iraq.
Hmmm... That's an interesting one. Let me go back and read my initial post. Ummm yeah - the point of it was summed up in the sentance
"It seems a little ironic that people who are so against what the Bush administration has done in Iraq are so excited about the freedoms that the Iraqi people are starting to see as a result of those actions."
I don't really give a damn if they're working on Linux over there. There are enough people working on it as it is. Read the thread if you want justifications for the war.
As far as your claims on WMD and al Qaeda ties, stop reading the New York Times and look at the smaller stocks of serin and vx that have been found and listen to even the most liberal of the 9/11 Commission calling BS on the reports that they've found no ties to al Qaeda. They released statements after that report came out two weeks ago that the report was false and that there was plenty of credible evidence of ties.
The Saudi government has assisted in tracking down terrorists in their country.
I'm not arguing on China. There are horrible violations over there.
The USSR happened to gain a leader in Gorbachev who saw that his country was failing and was open to change as a way to help the issues.
If Saddam had stopped his human rights violations and complied with U.N. resolutions (which as I stated in another reply clearly stated consequences), there would have been no reason to invade.
We left Afghanistan? When? Can you tell that to my friend who's there right now? I think he'd like to come home (or get into Iraq) if we've truely ceased operations there.
And we didn't leave Afghanistan under a dictator. We got rid of the Taliban and then (with the U.N.) helped them hold elections.
However, if you want to know the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan, look at years of U.N. resolutions that Saddam's government summarilly dismissed. The consequence of regime change was outlined in the resolutions. The U.N. showed a weak side and backed down, but someone had to be willing to stand up for this. If the world continued to show that there are no consequences for actions, terrorists and corrupt governments would continue to become more emboldened.
How many times can you tell someone "no" and then let them continue before they move on to something bigger?
...if it weren't for one of the people most vilified by slashdotters. It seems a little ironic that people who are so against what the Bush administration has done in Iraq are so excited about the freedoms that the Iraqi people are starting to see as a result of those actions. Yeah - Bush has problems, but the course in Iraq was the right one to take.
AH, but if you make the assumption that this was the same pair of AC's posting over and over, you missed one thing... The one that was being more childish (and yeah - they both were) said that he was liberal - not that he was right wing. He's just being pushed that way by the anti-war movement.
Had one for two years, and I loved it for most of the time, but the battery will sharply die off on you any day now if you've had it for a year. Everyone I know who's had this phone has had that problem. The only other complaint I had was that I had to lock the keypad with a multi-key code to avoid accidental dialing - and it won't let you answer a call without unlocking. Hitting four keys to answer a ringing phone was too much, so I have a flip-phone now.
Yes, well....I have a cell phone that I love having, but I hate cell phones in general - because as we all know, "everyone else is an idiot." People use them in situations where they shouldn't (I'll never forgive the idiot who left their phone on WITH THE RINGER TURNED ON during Return of The King!)
It's only $35/month (768/128) in my area. You can pay up to $80 for 1.5/512. This doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Comparable to DSL, and that's not available to me.
Agreed - ending it with any other line ("Well, I'm back.") would leave me horribly disappointed. That's the one comment I made to the people I saw FotR with.
They can do with the cash as they please, they can give it away, burn it, wipe their ass with it, buy drugs with it, buy whores with it, buy atomic bombs with it, whatever they want to do with it, it's theirs and I have no say so in what they do with the cash.
Maybe YOU aren't telling them they can't buy drugs and whores, but that doesn't make it legal for them to do so. And you actually CAN tell them what they can do with the money. If you get it in writing with their signature, it may even be enforceable. Take a look at loans - the lender is essentially buying future money for current money, and often they do tell you what you can do with the money they give you (buy a house, go to school, etc).
Joss once said something to the effect of, "We went on the premise that there may be such things as lazer guns, but not everyone could afford them." (Please excuse my lack of the exact quote.) That pretty much covers #2. Everyone else has clobbered #1 and #3.
Uh - try again. The fact that those are liberal ideals does NOT mean that "All liberals aspire to be communists." There are several that do and several that don't, but you'd be hard pressed to find a conservative who believed in communism. The two are mutually exclusive, and the post I replied to was saying that our government made a communist one look liberal. I say to that, "No shit."
They provide a mailing address and fax number, and everyone knows that they'll consider a letter more important than an email anyways. If you have something important to say, use a stamp.
providing the political excuse for accelerating legislation through congress that makes the former pre-Gorbochov soviet parliament look positively liberal by comparison
You do realize, don't you, that socialism and communism are liberal ideals? Are you sure you didn't mean to say "libertarian?"
You also ignore Tshirt sales, and other little sales artists make at shows.
Yeah - like CD sales for the smaller artists like those that started this whole thread.
But there's one important thing you're missing. Artists of any magnitude don't tend to take a cut of each ticket - they get paid a flat fee. And all their costs come out of that fee. As I said, a semi-popular artist (i.e. one that can sell out a large theater but isn't n'sync, eminem, or korn) will pull down somewhat less than $10,000 per show (you might occaisionally see one that's been around forever but still isn't one of the TOP acts pull down $20,000 to $30,000, but they're rare), and all touring costs will come out of that.
But the real point of this thread is one that you just agreed with yourself by saying that income comes from "other little sales artists make at shows." You've basically shot your own argument in the foot. If filesharing without artists' permission is fine, you've just cut off a large percentage of those little sales.
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Um yeah.... If they were attempting to kill non-US citizens on non-US territory, the US would have no right to hold them. That doesn't mean it would be "ok", but it would be Canada's job to arrest and hold them. And don't think that they wouldn't.
Yeah - if I were a non-American I might be interested in knocking America down a peg on the world super power scale, and then I'd want John Kerry too... Of course, since I'm American I'm going to vote for who will do the best job for Americans. Given the two choices, I'll have to grit my teeth and vote for Bush. Yeah, he pushed that horrible "no child left behind" (and none can get ahead either) act, but he turned a recession around, and I haven't seen US territory get hit with another major attack in the last three years.
Turning a PC remotely on seems to me like it would require hardware (wake on LAN or a management card). Turning a PC off remotely is as easy as opening an SSH session and issuing a shutdown.
As for the other innovation that they mention:
Searches will extend across all data like e-mail, photos, Word. "We're creating things," he says.
I can search email and most document types with find/grep. Photos? What am I going to search except for the file name? I can do that with find also. And oddly enough, Windows 2000 (hell, even 95) supports this, and Windows XP broke it so it would only work with certain file types. This is innovation?
The Brits are extremely pompous and annoying, but at least we can thank them for Led Zep, Pink Floyd, The Beatles, The Who, The Clash, and others. Ireland? Forget it.
Ummm... The Pogues?
Reasonably lawful? Mass murder, government supported rape and torture, these are examples of a "reasonably lawful" control? Wow...
Yeah, there are bad things about this war - there are about any war, but that was some statement.
By the way... I love how everyone seems to forget two things. First that Russia gave the US intelligence that Saddam had plans to attack the US on our soil, and second that there was massive support for this war at the time that it started - including from John Kerry and Jon Edwards.
Iraq was never any sort of threat to us.
Iraq planned attacks against the US. And that came from Vladimir Putin. He and the Russian intelligence community told our government about these plans in the time leading up to our operations in Iraq.
WMDs have been found in small quantities - just not the stockpiles that had been claimed. Also the engines required for delivery of these weapons (engines which were banned themselves) have been found among scrap metal sent to other countries from Iraq during the time in which the inspections were going on.
I don't remember a connection directly to 9/11 being hyped by anyone in the administration. Sure, there was press speculation of Iraq financially backing it, but that's all. The administration said that there were ties to al Qaeda regarding training with chemical weapons. The types that have been found in small quantities, and the types that an al Qaeda member caught in Saudi Arabia a couple months ago admitted he'd been trained on in Iraq.
Hmmm... That's an interesting one. Let me go back and read my initial post. Ummm yeah - the point of it was summed up in the sentance
"It seems a little ironic that people who are so against what the Bush administration has done in Iraq are so excited about the freedoms that the Iraqi people are starting to see as a result of those actions."
I don't really give a damn if they're working on Linux over there. There are enough people working on it as it is. Read the thread if you want justifications for the war.
As far as your claims on WMD and al Qaeda ties, stop reading the New York Times and look at the smaller stocks of serin and vx that have been found and listen to even the most liberal of the 9/11 Commission calling BS on the reports that they've found no ties to al Qaeda. They released statements after that report came out two weeks ago that the report was false and that there was plenty of credible evidence of ties.
Osama was outcast by his family.
The Saudi government has assisted in tracking down terrorists in their country.
I'm not arguing on China. There are horrible violations over there.
The USSR happened to gain a leader in Gorbachev who saw that his country was failing and was open to change as a way to help the issues.
If Saddam had stopped his human rights violations and complied with U.N. resolutions (which as I stated in another reply clearly stated consequences), there would have been no reason to invade.
We left Afghanistan? When? Can you tell that to my friend who's there right now? I think he'd like to come home (or get into Iraq) if we've truely ceased operations there.
And we didn't leave Afghanistan under a dictator. We got rid of the Taliban and then (with the U.N.) helped them hold elections.
However, if you want to know the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan, look at years of U.N. resolutions that Saddam's government summarilly dismissed. The consequence of regime change was outlined in the resolutions. The U.N. showed a weak side and backed down, but someone had to be willing to stand up for this. If the world continued to show that there are no consequences for actions, terrorists and corrupt governments would continue to become more emboldened.
How many times can you tell someone "no" and then let them continue before they move on to something bigger?
...if it weren't for one of the people most vilified by slashdotters. It seems a little ironic that people who are so against what the Bush administration has done in Iraq are so excited about the freedoms that the Iraqi people are starting to see as a result of those actions. Yeah - Bush has problems, but the course in Iraq was the right one to take.
AH, but if you make the assumption that this was the same pair of AC's posting over and over, you missed one thing... The one that was being more childish (and yeah - they both were) said that he was liberal - not that he was right wing. He's just being pushed that way by the anti-war movement.
Hmm... I guess I should have had the software updated on mine. That probably would have taken care of it.
Had one for two years, and I loved it for most of the time, but the battery will sharply die off on you any day now if you've had it for a year. Everyone I know who's had this phone has had that problem.
The only other complaint I had was that I had to lock the keypad with a multi-key code to avoid accidental dialing - and it won't let you answer a call without unlocking. Hitting four keys to answer a ringing phone was too much, so I have a flip-phone now.
Yes, well... .I have a cell phone that I love having, but I hate cell phones in general - because as we all know, "everyone else is an idiot." People use them in situations where they shouldn't (I'll never forgive the idiot who left their phone on WITH THE RINGER TURNED ON during Return of The King!)
It's only $35/month (768/128) in my area. You can pay up to $80 for 1.5/512. This doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Comparable to DSL, and that's not available to me.
You may not like VB, but if that's what your employer wants to use, the excuse "but VB is lame!" won't hold up very well.
SIG - Boycott SCO
I'm all for boycotting SCO, but what if your employer wants to use it?
Agreed - ending it with any other line ("Well, I'm back.") would leave me horribly disappointed. That's the one comment I made to the people I saw FotR with.
They can do with the cash as they please, they can give it away, burn it, wipe their ass with it, buy drugs with it, buy whores with it, buy atomic bombs with it, whatever they want to do with it, it's theirs and I have no say so in what they do with the cash.
Maybe YOU aren't telling them they can't buy drugs and whores, but that doesn't make it legal for them to do so. And you actually CAN tell them what they can do with the money. If you get it in writing with their signature, it may even be enforceable. Take a look at loans - the lender is essentially buying future money for current money, and often they do tell you what you can do with the money they give you (buy a house, go to school, etc).
and criticism of spelling makes such good argument.
Joss once said something to the effect of, "We went on the premise that there may be such things as lazer guns, but not everyone could afford them." (Please excuse my lack of the exact quote.) That pretty much covers #2. Everyone else has clobbered #1 and #3.
One of those screenshots shows the Gimp running. Apparently it must work.
Uh - try again. The fact that those are liberal ideals does NOT mean that "All liberals aspire to be communists." There are several that do and several that don't, but you'd be hard pressed to find a conservative who believed in communism. The two are mutually exclusive, and the post I replied to was saying that our government made a communist one look liberal. I say to that, "No shit."
They provide a mailing address and fax number, and everyone knows that they'll consider a letter more important than an email anyways. If you have something important to say, use a stamp.
providing the political excuse for accelerating legislation through congress that makes the former pre-Gorbochov soviet parliament look positively liberal by comparison
You do realize, don't you, that socialism and communism are liberal ideals? Are you sure you didn't mean to say "libertarian?"
You also ignore Tshirt sales, and other little sales artists make at shows.
Yeah - like CD sales for the smaller artists like those that started this whole thread.
But there's one important thing you're missing. Artists of any magnitude don't tend to take a cut of each ticket - they get paid a flat fee. And all their costs come out of that fee. As I said, a semi-popular artist (i.e. one that can sell out a large theater but isn't n'sync, eminem, or korn) will pull down somewhat less than $10,000 per show (you might occaisionally see one that's been around forever but still isn't one of the TOP acts pull down $20,000 to $30,000, but they're rare), and all touring costs will come out of that.
But the real point of this thread is one that you just agreed with yourself by saying that income comes from "other little sales artists make at shows." You've basically shot your own argument in the foot. If filesharing without artists' permission is fine, you've just cut off a large percentage of those little sales.