Think that's funky? INMARSAT, a satellite system used widely in the US Navy, had an issue where clapping next to it would cause the modem to trip off line and reset. Wiggled the cables around... nothing. Shook the rack around, banged on it... nothing. Clapped your hands ah! reset. Yelled at it loudly... nothing. Clapped... ah. Never figured it out.
Getting used to it doesn't necessarily bring us closer to understanding it which is the point of discussing it.
I wonder if the psychological implications of having to take care of our old and frail parents and grand parents some how has altered our way of living. "I never wanna die." "If I ever get that old just kill me." There seems to be a genuine fear of becoming useless or less than functional. Could this never give in attitude toward ageing be part of it?
This is interesting because by taking care of our old we live longer?
Read more carefully. The ships entire command and control structure were relegated to Windows NT at that time. After testing, the Navy fell back to existing solutions; whether this remains the case I don't know, but I do remember the test I described as being the first test of an "all Windows NT" solution. The article I cited was not specific to the test I remember (it was a long time ago, after all), but was intended to refute the AC's assertion that NT wasn't in use.
What am I to read more carefully? Show me where you read that Aegis weapon system was ever Windows NT based. It's true that NT was widely adopted and replaced many Unix systems in the Navy aboard ships (primarily supply, logistics, maintenance management systems) but not at the core of the Aegis weapon system or the Aegis display system.
Yes there are NT boxes where there shouldn't be (ie the box that rendered Yorktown's gas turbine propulsion system useless). Yes NT is widely used for many things, but not for Aegis. Been there, seen it, worked with it on two different ships. One ship was old as dirt and one was fairly new.
From your article: "This is the only time this casualty has occurred and the only propulsion casualty involved with the control system since May 2, 1997, when software configuration was frozen," Vice Adm. Henry Giffin, commander of the Atlantic Fleet's Naval Surface Force, reported in an Oct. 24, 1997, memorandum.
The Propulsion system is not Aegis. IT21 not Aegis either. Don't be confused by the ship being Aegis class. Just because I throw a Dell on an Aegis class ship doesn't make it an Aegis Dell computer.
Anybody remember the first tests of the Aegis-class cruiser? The first US Navy vessel controlled exclusively by a Microsoft product (Windows NT)?
What are you talking about? Aegis is Unix, VX Works, and Cisco. Windows NT is whats used to receive e-mail on a completely separate LAN. Aegis is a piece of crap, but it's not Windows powered.
I believe the "Greenness" is based on the efficiency of the device. How much heat is generated (waste) vs useful output in PSUs for example. Weather manufactures are labeling them justly or not that's another question. Can a PC be labeled "green" and not be Energy Star?
Ok, that's the extreme case but what about the average or mean times? While I personally do have my doubts about the worth of many "world-class support" options, this example isn't necessarily representative of the business as a whole. If I were to gamble on it, where would my odds lie?
If I chose an open source solution are my odds better at getting the support I need?
DGMR, I'm not claiming one side or the other, just find the discussion interesting.
"Not everything has to be done now, now, now. At least not in my world."
Call me young--I'm 30 and I'd like that reassurance--but how long should one wait? I personally don't want to wait until my hardware is obsolete to use it otherwise I'd just buy obsolete hardware to begin with.
What can AMD and ATI bring to the table as a team? I find this whole line of discussion is interesting. But the questions that rack my impatient young mind are what will they bring and when will they bring it?
Don't get me wrong, I am optimistic but at the same time my ATI card is going on three years. That's a long time when product life cycles--both hardware and software--are taken into the picture.
A "cup of tea" sells reliable time tried products, but "Now, Now, Now" sells new products. Both are not without merit.
That's just it isn't it. To think that neither ATI or NVidia has never, even at a cursory level, revers engineered their competition's work seems a bit far fetched. NVidia probably knows more about ATI's work than what ATI provides publicly and vice versa.
The real reason the drivers are underdeveloped is that you can't build closed source software of any serious complexity with an underdeveloped budget.
I look forward to the money I will save and you will spend on Vista. I look forward to the knowledge I will gain and you will be ignorant of. I look forward to modifying my system and my code to my liking, while you look forward to being locked out, broken apps and slashed features, and unsolvable crashes. (lest I forget the required reboots and reinstalls)
Recently I switched from Mandriva 2006 to Suse 10.1. I have had nothing but trouble with getting any kind of performance (when the drivers do work) on my ATI video card. I switched to Suse because the Mandriva croud just doesn't seem to have much activity within the user and support communities. Also ATI claims support for Suse. While I like Suse much better and find the community much richer, my Linux install is still crippled.
I'm not a kernel/driver programmer. Quite frankly, while it is completely possible for me to dig in to every aspect of Linux programming, I don't have that kind of time and resource. You can call me "ignorant" all you want. While you look forward to choosing specific hardware for Linux, modifying you system code to get it working, and calling people ignorant for not knowing what you know, I look forward to not buying all new hardware (thousands of dollars and a gamble to boot) just to get a functional system.
I'll still enjoy open source when I can but I can't make fixing it "way of life." I still use OpenOffice.orgOpenOffice.org, Firefox GIMP, and a host of other software packages that don't cost me money even on Windows. Windows isn't perfect and Microsoft sucks, but I don't have to alter my way of life and become a system programmer to make it work--and I don't think that is all that ignorant.
[...] If the Chinese people don't like the way their government is restricting their access to information then they have a moral obligation to overthrow that government, either peacefully via voting in the next election, or by force using a militia formed from the people.
It's too bad they will never hear your view point. Instead they will hear a completely different version of what their "moral obligation" is.
By showing the Chinese people ways to exist comfortably within the restrictions imposed by an immoral government we're not helping them to reach a better place in life.. namely a free and democratic Republic of China.
How comfortable are they knowing that the only way to experience certain freedoms is to break the law? Just because they know how to break the law doesn't necessarily mean that they are comfortable doing it.
By nature, Google cannot be as elusive as the "purveyors of said pornography" try to be. Google is public and an easier target with far more attention in the press. It's not about pornography, the children, laws, or morals. These are lawyers.
Is it Google trying to put their content on child porn sights or are the child porn sights trying to put their content on Google? Google is making an effort to block the content. However, like spamers, child pornographers are working to circumvent the good intent of blocking mechanisms.
If distributed with the option disabled, it might as well be not present. If distributed with the option enabled, the bulk of users either won't know how to turn it off or won't recognize it as a potential problem. If it doesn't directly effect the presentation of the software most users won't know any better.
While one could argue that Firefox users are generally more tech savvy, that may not always be the case if Firefox becomes significantly popular. Because its dwarfing competition doesn't support the feature points in either direction are mute at this time (There's not enough of a significant advantage for web developers to write a separate branch just for Firefox when the same result can be obtained through other means that function in nearly all popular browsers by default).
I think your post would have been more "insightful" in the context of the discussion if you had actually posted some scores from different file systems. Basically all I gathered was that you ran some benchmarks and they were different from the articles on your machine.
"Seriously, Microsoft has to have done something right to have come this far [...]"
I don't know that I would necessarily call it right. If right simply means successful then I could be a very right drug dealer.
It's not their success that our ideological "idiots" wish to "deride." It's the methodology that consistently leaves the customer with less than their money's worth that idiots like me have a problem with.
(FWIW, I'm with you that the parent post was far less than insightful.)
I've used the Microsoft side most of my life. Linux is a very recent thing for me. I chose Mandriva 2006. If the applications were not sorted by category in the kmenu (ie it was just a flat list) I would not know what does what. The names in Linux are obscure and icons aren't necessarily full of clues as to what the application does. It's annoying to see K this and G that, or X this. The K and G do not add anything to the usefulness of the menu. They detract from it.
It would be nice to see K, G, and X go away. And things like "Kaffeine" read more like "Kaffeine Media Player." If I'm looking for a basic calculator I should find it under Calculator or Calc. KCalc is hard to find because I'm looking for a word that starts with C. I really don't care who made it or for what desktop it's for as long as I can find it and use it effectively and quickly.
Now when I use my windows box I don't find MCalc, MSolitare, MPBrush, MIE, MControlPannel, or MNotepad. Apparently it isn't a system limitation to start with K, G, or X and contain no spaces.
Microsoft is against ISPs doing anything that would restrict customers' choice of software.
Realistically that should read: "Microsoft is against ISPs doing anything that would restrict customers' choice of MICROSOFT software."
If anything, ISPs will restrict that which no major money player has any stake in. Follow the money. The average user will not notice as long as their IM, web browser, and e-mail still work. Most users is where the money is. Most computers running windows is where the money is.
Also politicians lack the vocabulary for describing what and what isn't a secure system. Their idea is ban all insecure systems. We don't know what one is so we'll leave that up to whomever. So as long as your ISP can say "Yup we did something." they are in the clear.
You know 'cause I just sit around and read the lyrics without the music playing and without any interest in the artist's musical presentation. Hell I think that they should all give up their cheesy guitars, drums, and keyboards and just become poets. No one really wants to hear that crap.
I can see why the music industry is so protective of "their" lyrics.
"There is really nothing dangerous in them, LCD's cathodes don't use more than 1kv, and unlike CRT's, there is no significant capacitor that will remain charged when the monitor is turned off. [...]"
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it the large coil connected to the anode of a CRT which holds the charge (not a capacitor)? Either way most modern CRT monitors/TVs have a bleeder resister that will discharge the stored energy within a few minutes to minimize the risk.
How does one go about determining if a search or seizure is unreasonable? A warrant would be a good argument that a search was reasonable. When there is no warrant it is left open to the question of weather any attempt was made to ascertain its reasonability (which would be unreasonable IMHO).
IANAL either, but I think it could be argued that any search is unreasonable with out a warrant.
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Think that's funky? INMARSAT, a satellite system used widely in the US Navy, had an issue where clapping next to it would cause the modem to trip off line and reset. Wiggled the cables around... nothing. Shook the rack around, banged on it... nothing. Clapped your hands ah! reset. Yelled at it loudly... nothing. Clapped... ah. Never figured it out.
But there are enough criminals. It's just that the police can't catch them without some lawyer nullifying their work. Kill all the lawyers.
Getting used to it doesn't necessarily bring us closer to understanding it which is the point of discussing it.
I wonder if the psychological implications of having to take care of our old and frail parents and grand parents some how has altered our way of living. "I never wanna die." "If I ever get that old just kill me." There seems to be a genuine fear of becoming useless or less than functional. Could this never give in attitude toward ageing be part of it?
This is interesting because by taking care of our old we live longer?
Read more carefully. The ships entire command and control structure were relegated to Windows NT at that time. After testing, the Navy fell back to existing solutions; whether this remains the case I don't know, but I do remember the test I described as being the first test of an "all Windows NT" solution. The article I cited was not specific to the test I remember (it was a long time ago, after all), but was intended to refute the AC's assertion that NT wasn't in use.
What am I to read more carefully? Show me where you read that Aegis weapon system was ever Windows NT based. It's true that NT was widely adopted and replaced many Unix systems in the Navy aboard ships (primarily supply, logistics, maintenance management systems) but not at the core of the Aegis weapon system or the Aegis display system.
Yes there are NT boxes where there shouldn't be (ie the box that rendered Yorktown's gas turbine propulsion system useless). Yes NT is widely used for many things, but not for Aegis. Been there, seen it, worked with it on two different ships. One ship was old as dirt and one was fairly new.
From your article: "This is the only time this casualty has occurred and the only propulsion casualty involved with the control system since May 2, 1997, when software configuration was frozen," Vice Adm. Henry Giffin, commander of the Atlantic Fleet's Naval Surface Force, reported in an Oct. 24, 1997, memorandum.
The Propulsion system is not Aegis. IT21 not Aegis either. Don't be confused by the ship being Aegis class. Just because I throw a Dell on an Aegis class ship doesn't make it an Aegis Dell computer.
Anybody remember the first tests of the Aegis-class cruiser? The first US Navy vessel controlled exclusively by a Microsoft product (Windows NT)?
What are you talking about? Aegis is Unix, VX Works, and Cisco. Windows NT is whats used to receive e-mail on a completely separate LAN. Aegis is a piece of crap, but it's not Windows powered.
I believe the "Greenness" is based on the efficiency of the device. How much heat is generated (waste) vs useful output in PSUs for example. Weather manufactures are labeling them justly or not that's another question. Can a PC be labeled "green" and not be Energy Star?
Ok, that's the extreme case but what about the average or mean times? While I personally do have my doubts about the worth of many "world-class support" options, this example isn't necessarily representative of the business as a whole. If I were to gamble on it, where would my odds lie?
If I chose an open source solution are my odds better at getting the support I need?
DGMR, I'm not claiming one side or the other, just find the discussion interesting.
"Not everything has to be done now, now, now. At least not in my world."
Call me young--I'm 30 and I'd like that reassurance--but how long should one wait? I personally don't want to wait until my hardware is obsolete to use it otherwise I'd just buy obsolete hardware to begin with.
What can AMD and ATI bring to the table as a team? I find this whole line of discussion is interesting. But the questions that rack my impatient young mind are what will they bring and when will they bring it?
Don't get me wrong, I am optimistic but at the same time my ATI card is going on three years. That's a long time when product life cycles--both hardware and software--are taken into the picture.
A "cup of tea" sells reliable time tried products, but "Now, Now, Now" sells new products. Both are not without merit.
That's just it isn't it. To think that neither ATI or NVidia has never, even at a cursory level, revers engineered their competition's work seems a bit far fetched. NVidia probably knows more about ATI's work than what ATI provides publicly and vice versa.
The real reason the drivers are underdeveloped is that you can't build closed source software of any serious complexity with an underdeveloped budget.
I look forward to the money I will save and you will spend on Vista. I look forward to the knowledge I will gain and you will be ignorant of. I look forward to modifying my system and my code to my liking, while you look forward to being locked out, broken apps and slashed features, and unsolvable crashes. (lest I forget the required reboots and reinstalls)
Recently I switched from Mandriva 2006 to Suse 10.1. I have had nothing but trouble with getting any kind of performance (when the drivers do work) on my ATI video card. I switched to Suse because the Mandriva croud just doesn't seem to have much activity within the user and support communities. Also ATI claims support for Suse. While I like Suse much better and find the community much richer, my Linux install is still crippled.
I'm not a kernel/driver programmer. Quite frankly, while it is completely possible for me to dig in to every aspect of Linux programming, I don't have that kind of time and resource. You can call me "ignorant" all you want. While you look forward to choosing specific hardware for Linux, modifying you system code to get it working, and calling people ignorant for not knowing what you know, I look forward to not buying all new hardware (thousands of dollars and a gamble to boot) just to get a functional system.
I'll still enjoy open source when I can but I can't make fixing it "way of life." I still use OpenOffice.orgOpenOffice.org, Firefox GIMP, and a host of other software packages that don't cost me money even on Windows. Windows isn't perfect and Microsoft sucks, but I don't have to alter my way of life and become a system programmer to make it work--and I don't think that is all that ignorant.
[...] If the Chinese people don't like the way their government is restricting their access to information then they have a moral obligation to overthrow that government, either peacefully via voting in the next election, or by force using a militia formed from the people.
It's too bad they will never hear your view point. Instead they will hear a completely different version of what their "moral obligation" is.
By showing the Chinese people ways to exist comfortably within the restrictions imposed by an immoral government we're not helping them to reach a better place in life.. namely a free and democratic Republic of China.
How comfortable are they knowing that the only way to experience certain freedoms is to break the law? Just because they know how to break the law doesn't necessarily mean that they are comfortable doing it.
Although I hate to say it or otherwise condone it, perhaps what we need are a few vigilante motherf*%@ers.
Cowboys and Indians... on the Moon?
* ducks *
By nature, Google cannot be as elusive as the "purveyors of said pornography" try to be. Google is public and an easier target with far more attention in the press. It's not about pornography, the children, laws, or morals. These are lawyers.
Is it Google trying to put their content on child porn sights or are the child porn sights trying to put their content on Google? Google is making an effort to block the content. However, like spamers, child pornographers are working to circumvent the good intent of blocking mechanisms.
If distributed with the option disabled, it might as well be not present. If distributed with the option enabled, the bulk of users either won't know how to turn it off or won't recognize it as a potential problem. If it doesn't directly effect the presentation of the software most users won't know any better.
While one could argue that Firefox users are generally more tech savvy, that may not always be the case if Firefox becomes significantly popular. Because its dwarfing competition doesn't support the feature points in either direction are mute at this time (There's not enough of a significant advantage for web developers to write a separate branch just for Firefox when the same result can be obtained through other means that function in nearly all popular browsers by default).
I think your post would have been more "insightful" in the context of the discussion if you had actually posted some scores from different file systems. Basically all I gathered was that you ran some benchmarks and they were different from the articles on your machine.
"Seriously, Microsoft has to have done something right to have come this far [...]"
I don't know that I would necessarily call it right. If right simply means successful then I could be a very right drug dealer.
It's not their success that our ideological "idiots" wish to "deride." It's the methodology that consistently leaves the customer with less than their money's worth that idiots like me have a problem with.
(FWIW, I'm with you that the parent post was far less than insightful.)
I've used the Microsoft side most of my life. Linux is a very recent thing for me. I chose Mandriva 2006. If the applications were not sorted by category in the kmenu (ie it was just a flat list) I would not know what does what. The names in Linux are obscure and icons aren't necessarily full of clues as to what the application does. It's annoying to see K this and G that, or X this. The K and G do not add anything to the usefulness of the menu. They detract from it.
It would be nice to see K, G, and X go away. And things like "Kaffeine" read more like "Kaffeine Media Player." If I'm looking for a basic calculator I should find it under Calculator or Calc. KCalc is hard to find because I'm looking for a word that starts with C. I really don't care who made it or for what desktop it's for as long as I can find it and use it effectively and quickly.
Now when I use my windows box I don't find MCalc, MSolitare, MPBrush, MIE, MControlPannel, or MNotepad. Apparently it isn't a system limitation to start with K, G, or X and contain no spaces.
Microsoft is against ISPs doing anything that would restrict customers' choice of software.
Realistically that should read: "Microsoft is against ISPs doing anything that would restrict customers' choice of MICROSOFT software."
If anything, ISPs will restrict that which no major money player has any stake in. Follow the money. The average user will not notice as long as their IM, web browser, and e-mail still work. Most users is where the money is. Most computers running windows is where the money is.
Also politicians lack the vocabulary for describing what and what isn't a secure system. Their idea is ban all insecure systems. We don't know what one is so we'll leave that up to whomever. So as long as your ISP can say "Yup we did something." they are in the clear.
You know 'cause I just sit around and read the lyrics without the music playing and without any interest in the artist's musical presentation. Hell I think that they should all give up their cheesy guitars, drums, and keyboards and just become poets. No one really wants to hear that crap.
I can see why the music industry is so protective of "their" lyrics.
"There is really nothing dangerous in them, LCD's cathodes don't use more than 1kv, and unlike CRT's, there is no significant capacitor that will remain charged when the monitor is turned off. [...]"
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it the large coil connected to the anode of a CRT which holds the charge (not a capacitor)? Either way most modern CRT monitors/TVs have a bleeder resister that will discharge the stored energy within a few minutes to minimize the risk.
"This is slashdot. Anything with google in the title is published - often before anyone's even bothered to read it."
Cool maybe I'll finally get moderated without regard to actual content. Thanks for the tip!
How does one go about determining if a search or seizure is unreasonable? A warrant would be a good argument that a search was reasonable. When there is no warrant it is left open to the question of weather any attempt was made to ascertain its reasonability (which would be unreasonable IMHO). IANAL either, but I think it could be argued that any search is unreasonable with out a warrant.
I'm drunk and haven't RTFA and it still pisses me off. don't drink and /;.