You don't. Some people won't ever believe anything you tell them, regardless of what proof, studies, etc. you have. The solution is to not waste your time worrying about those few people. If you tax inefficent incandescent bulbs and make them cost 1+X% of what they do now, you'll get the vast majority of people to switch, and that's really what counts.
As a civil libertarian, I hate to see taxes as a solution to anything, but sometimes you have to recognize reality too;-)
Really? I'm posting this from an Inspiron 9300 running Ubuntu.
Granted, I had to do a little bit of fucking around with the Radeon Mobile drivers to get the 3D support to work (and they're not open source, but I don't care), but everything else (thumbpad, LCD screen, buttons on the front) worked out of the box. Infact, I'm a *gamer* (Warcraft III, Black & White) using a Dell laptop.
The only trouble with Svensmark's idea -- apart from its being politically incorrect -- was that meteorologists denied that cosmic rays could be involved in cloud formation. After long delays in scraping together the funds for an experiment, Svensmark and his small team at the Danish National Space Center hit the jackpot in the summer of 2005.
Why didn't the oil cartel fund his experiment if they were so interested in it? Or did you just choose to assume, without actually reading the article?
Global warming is a concern, but so is the economics of the US. Right now corn farmers in my state get tons of money, more than the tax cuts of 2-5 cents/gallon are worth on all the ethanol sold in my state. We import a lot of oil, and we run at a very high trade deficit. If we can make a product that is nearly the same ourselves, why wouldn't we?
Also for the record, if I change my driving habits (i.e. not floor it every time I accellerate... coast more and use the breaks less), I make a significant change in the amount of fuel I use compared to what I might lose burning ethanol.
I go to a big Ag/Engineering school in the Midwest, Obama will be speaking at our school tomorrow. I'm lucky to live in a unique area of the US where the energy alternatives (mainly ethanol) are actually cheaper than the regular fuels because of all of the tax cuts. If he brings pricing everywhere in the US to the levels it is in my state (about $.02-.05/gallon cheaper than non-ethanol fuels) I'll be much more likely to vote for him.
Honestly, I don't even see a negative side to ethanol (other than it's still a fossil fuel). It reduces our dependance on foregin oil, and would (presumably) lower our national trade deficit and keep more money within the borders (something that conservatives are sure to be happy about).
It will be interesting to see Obama's commitment levels on the issue as we progress toward Nov, 2008.
I read this on my phone earlier, and havn't had a chance to reply until now. Anyways:
I highly doubt he could do much about the "most important problems." So he chose one that he was passionate about and focused his efforts. I wish more people would at least be passionate about something. Most times I honestly don't care what about, just that they feel passionately about something.
Just another regulation. Why doesn't the government just make them worth less by changing the composition. If they can't, they should discontinue making them. I don't actually use pennies, I buy everything with a credit/debit card. That's my.73 they're wasting, and my $1,000,000 to enforce this law.
I'm a student in EE/CprE at a state university, and I like to consider myself somewhat technically literate. I know various programming languages (C, Python, Java, PHP, etc), I know things about hardware design... the basics.
This article pointed out to me one thing - that I've never taken a formal class on how to use the internet. I suppose some of us 'just figure it out' and others don't.
With the week ending July 8, 2006 market share figure of 4.5% of all the US Internet visits.
4.5% of all bits transferred over the internet? 4.5% of all bits transferred over http? 4.5% of all requests made over http? Something tells me giganews.com transfers more bits than myspace.com, but that's just a hunch.
I'm a college student at a state university in the midwest.
Have you seen what MS charges college students? You only get a discount on XP Pro last I checked, and its still 99 dollars. With the special Microsoft licensing deal at my last uni, I could get it for 89.. wow the savings.
At the bookstore, I can get a copy of Windows XP for $7. With the university 10mbit line, I can download a disk w/ a keygen from usenet in a matter of minutes (a shorter time than it takes me to walk to the bookstore and back). I'm writing this on a slackware system.
Apparently you make enough that 99 dollars isn't much money. To some people, thats a fifth of their rent or half their weekly paycheck before taxes! If Microsoft shut them out, they would be forced to use an alternative OS. Microsoft doesn't want to lose poor people. I got into computing in my teens while I lived in a trailer park. I can tell you that everyone with a computer ran windows 3.1 or 95 in there. (well except me and a friend who pirated NT4) I was a freak when i tried redhat 5. Aside from the obvious hatred of trailer parks I now have, I don't see these people affording anything or wanting to switch off windows.
I have completed one year of schooling in the Electrical Engineering field. I work at a shipping warehouse for a large department store.
Next year, my monthly rent will be $296. Nowhere near the $500 you imply in your post. Also my biweekly paycheck after taxes is about $850 (working 60 hours/week).
Grant funds are closely watched as to what is charged to them.
Oh? At my local university, professors buy pc hardware for use around the office when their grant is about to run out. I know of one instance where nearly $10,000 was spent on laptops... who the hell needs 10 laptops for research, especially three days before the grant expires?
Now, not to say that all grant money goes to waste (and, this was a $3.2 million grant, so it's not like it was a large percentage), but it could've paid for 1/100,000,000 of the budget for the new stealth bomber or whatever it is. I mean, come on!
Another reason why Islam > Christianity. I don't believe in either, but Islam is superior to Christianity in many ways, including their view on riches in society.
What would you rather this guy do, give all his money to Bill and go beg for soup at the foundation doors?
* Currently, women's positions in the field accurately matches their skills and qualifications?
I should certianly hope so. What kind of inept manager would hire a man who was worse at the job than a woman, simply because he had a penis?
* Girls and young women are given adequate education, motivation, and acceptance when it comes to even considering entering the field?
Why give someone more (or less) motivation because of their anatomy? Either way is stupid. I give people motivation based on their ability to apply their skillset.
I'll never understand your viewpoint. Why the fuck wouldn't you hire the best person for the job, regardless of their gender? Who cares if they have a vagina, or a penis, or antannae?
Although it's good that Intel has lost some of their marketshare, we'd better hope this Conroe thing turns out to be as good as promised. I hate to see AMD and Intel just switching places... competition is good for everyone.
I don't know about this buisness model. I don't want to upload some company's files for them, so I'll either not use it, or turn my upload all the way off. Companies should be responsible for uploading their own material, that stress certianly shouldn't be put off on the user.
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You don't. Some people won't ever believe anything you tell them, regardless of what proof, studies, etc. you have. The solution is to not waste your time worrying about those few people. If you tax inefficent incandescent bulbs and make them cost 1+X% of what they do now, you'll get the vast majority of people to switch, and that's really what counts.
;-)
As a civil libertarian, I hate to see taxes as a solution to anything, but sometimes you have to recognize reality too
Really? I'm posting this from an Inspiron 9300 running Ubuntu.
Granted, I had to do a little bit of fucking around with the Radeon Mobile drivers to get the 3D support to work (and they're not open source, but I don't care), but everything else (thumbpad, LCD screen, buttons on the front) worked out of the box. Infact, I'm a *gamer* (Warcraft III, Black & White) using a Dell laptop.
From TFA:
The only trouble with Svensmark's idea -- apart from its being politically incorrect -- was that meteorologists denied that cosmic rays could be involved in cloud formation. After long delays in scraping together the funds for an experiment, Svensmark and his small team at the Danish National Space Center hit the jackpot in the summer of 2005.
Why didn't the oil cartel fund his experiment if they were so interested in it? Or did you just choose to assume, without actually reading the article?
Global warming is a concern, but so is the economics of the US. Right now corn farmers in my state get tons of money, more than the tax cuts of 2-5 cents/gallon are worth on all the ethanol sold in my state. We import a lot of oil, and we run at a very high trade deficit. If we can make a product that is nearly the same ourselves, why wouldn't we?
Also for the record, if I change my driving habits (i.e. not floor it every time I accellerate... coast more and use the breaks less), I make a significant change in the amount of fuel I use compared to what I might lose burning ethanol.
Yeah, that's what I meant - hydrocarbon. It was late and I was drunk, give me a break :o
I go to a big Ag/Engineering school in the Midwest, Obama will be speaking at our school tomorrow. I'm lucky to live in a unique area of the US where the energy alternatives (mainly ethanol) are actually cheaper than the regular fuels because of all of the tax cuts. If he brings pricing everywhere in the US to the levels it is in my state (about $.02-.05/gallon cheaper than non-ethanol fuels) I'll be much more likely to vote for him.
Honestly, I don't even see a negative side to ethanol (other than it's still a fossil fuel). It reduces our dependance on foregin oil, and would (presumably) lower our national trade deficit and keep more money within the borders (something that conservatives are sure to be happy about).
It will be interesting to see Obama's commitment levels on the issue as we progress toward Nov, 2008.
I read this on my phone earlier, and havn't had a chance to reply until now. Anyways:
I highly doubt he could do much about the "most important problems." So he chose one that he was passionate about and focused his efforts. I wish more people would at least be passionate about something. Most times I honestly don't care what about, just that they feel passionately about something.
Unofficial +5 insightful for that.
Will ISPs still be able to throttle BitTorrent traffic now that a significant proportion of it is legit?
Says who? Not that I disagree, but it would be interesting to read a study done on the matter...
Just another regulation. Why doesn't the government just make them worth less by changing the composition. If they can't, they should discontinue making them. I don't actually use pennies, I buy everything with a credit/debit card. That's my .73 they're wasting, and my $1,000,000 to enforce this law.
Since when are libertarians unconcerned with global warming? I they/we just have a different idea of how to solve it.
I'm a student in EE/CprE at a state university, and I like to consider myself somewhat technically literate. I know various programming languages (C, Python, Java, PHP, etc), I know things about hardware design... the basics.
This article pointed out to me one thing - that I've never taken a formal class on how to use the internet. I suppose some of us 'just figure it out' and others don't.
With the week ending July 8, 2006 market share figure of 4.5% of all the US Internet visits.
4.5% of all bits transferred over the internet? 4.5% of all bits transferred over http? 4.5% of all requests made over http? Something tells me giganews.com transfers more bits than myspace.com, but that's just a hunch.
I'm a college student at a state university in the midwest.
Have you seen what MS charges college students? You only get a discount on XP Pro last I checked, and its still 99 dollars. With the special Microsoft licensing deal at my last uni, I could get it for 89.. wow the savings.
At the bookstore, I can get a copy of Windows XP for $7. With the university 10mbit line, I can download a disk w/ a keygen from usenet in a matter of minutes (a shorter time than it takes me to walk to the bookstore and back). I'm writing this on a slackware system.
Apparently you make enough that 99 dollars isn't much money. To some people, thats a fifth of their rent or half their weekly paycheck before taxes! If Microsoft shut them out, they would be forced to use an alternative OS. Microsoft doesn't want to lose poor people. I got into computing in my teens while I lived in a trailer park. I can tell you that everyone with a computer ran windows 3.1 or 95 in there. (well except me and a friend who pirated NT4) I was a freak when i tried redhat 5. Aside from the obvious hatred of trailer parks I now have, I don't see these people affording anything or wanting to switch off windows.
I have completed one year of schooling in the Electrical Engineering field. I work at a shipping warehouse for a large department store.
Next year, my monthly rent will be $296. Nowhere near the $500 you imply in your post. Also my biweekly paycheck after taxes is about $850 (working 60 hours/week).
Grant funds are closely watched as to what is charged to them.
Oh? At my local university, professors buy pc hardware for use around the office when their grant is about to run out. I know of one instance where nearly $10,000 was spent on laptops... who the hell needs 10 laptops for research, especially three days before the grant expires?
Now, not to say that all grant money goes to waste (and, this was a $3.2 million grant, so it's not like it was a large percentage), but it could've paid for 1/100,000,000 of the budget for the new stealth bomber or whatever it is. I mean, come on!
Another reason why Islam > Christianity. I don't believe in either, but Islam is superior to Christianity in many ways, including their view on riches in society. What would you rather this guy do, give all his money to Bill and go beg for soup at the foundation doors?
Also note that as much as this guy hates the M$ pyramid scheme, he used Excel 95 to provide his information...
* Currently, women's positions in the field accurately matches their skills and qualifications? I should certianly hope so. What kind of inept manager would hire a man who was worse at the job than a woman, simply because he had a penis? * Girls and young women are given adequate education, motivation, and acceptance when it comes to even considering entering the field? Why give someone more (or less) motivation because of their anatomy? Either way is stupid. I give people motivation based on their ability to apply their skillset. I'll never understand your viewpoint. Why the fuck wouldn't you hire the best person for the job, regardless of their gender? Who cares if they have a vagina, or a penis, or antannae?
I love how this commercial site is using imageshack to host their images.
Although it's good that Intel has lost some of their marketshare, we'd better hope this Conroe thing turns out to be as good as promised. I hate to see AMD and Intel just switching places... competition is good for everyone.
I don't know about this buisness model. I don't want to upload some company's files for them, so I'll either not use it, or turn my upload all the way off. Companies should be responsible for uploading their own material, that stress certianly shouldn't be put off on the user.