It proves that there's no proof of any of the statements that were supposed to be heinous enough to fully remove the account. An account, I might add, anyone can post to (it was a "confessional" much like grouphug). So, easily, and I'm not saying this WAS the case, but others have postulated it's likely: she could have made the posts, reported them, and they were "caught" by the person running the confessional as being bad before the people at Twitter had the chance to look at them.
They'd love to, but when the community manager of Pownce (a twitter clone with a few more features) wants to sully the name of Twitter as Pownce is failing, you've gotta be a loud damsel in distress, don't you?
There's a good comment there pointing out that this is all a bit of an attention whoring scheme (where's the full disclosure that the blogger crying out works for Pownce, a twitter competitor?), right here.
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I have a list of 13 tweets that Ariel sent us as examples of the abuse from the account she wanted banned. According to our records, this is everything she sent us, except for those from the âoeconfessionsâ account, which Ariel says was not the main problem. (I couldnâ(TM)t look those up, because the posts themselves were deleted before we could look at them.)
I would *love* to post the whole file of these examples. I think it would clear a lot of things up. Unfortunately, since this content is the source of all this strife, and itâ(TM)s now off the Internet, that seemsâ¦well, not quite right.
What I will tell you is this:
Out of these posts, exactly one mentions Ariel by name. It calls her âoeexperienced.â The others do not personally identify Ariel.
One of them uses the word âoecuntâ (with a quote, presumably from Ariel). None contain either âoecrackâ or âoewhore.â None contain threats, physical or otherwise. Most are insults about physical or personality attributes without referring to anyone specifically. If you were following both Ariel and the account of this woman when these posts were made, it may have been clear who she was referring to. Out of that context, you would probably have no clue. But even if they would have mentioned Ariel by name, most of them are not actionable, because we donâ(TM)t have a rule against insulting people or hurting their feelings.
Caveat: Many of the examples she sent us were from Flickr. I didnâ(TM)t look at all of these, becauseâ¦well, we donâ(TM)t run Flickr.
Our stance is this: We stand by our TOS. We have deleted accounts for abuse of various kinds. We had to make a judgement call here, as one does in all such cases. This didnâ(TM)t meet the bar for being banned, in our opinion.
You can disagree with our judgment call. And thatâ(TM)s fine. But youâ(TM)re choosing to do that without seeing the content, and someone has very carefully painted a picture that has misled many people. (One might ask why Ariel didnâ(TM)t post the full tweets in order to strengthen her case.)
Even if you do disagree with our judgment call, this is not an argument about whether or not weâ(TM)re enforcing our TOS; this is an argument about how we define âoeharassmentâ or âoeabuse.â
THAT IS ALL. # Evan Williams said on May 23rd, 2008 at 6:45 pm:
One more thing:
@Russ: âoeâ¦a lawsuit, seems to be a concern of yours correct?â
No, not correct. That is a total red herring that was probably constructed to make us look like a cowardly corporation (clever!).
Not that we canâ(TM)t be sued â" sure, we can. But that has not motivated our actions here.
Now the content of the "Ariel says" comment:
# Ariel Waldman Says: May 23rd, 2008 at 12:52 pm
@ericabiz youâ(TM)re right and I have worked with kosso and thanked him in the past and I very much appreciated his objective understanding of the issue.
I chose not to mention him because the majority of the harassment I reference was created by a different account than the one he had created and I didnâ(TM)t want to drag him through this.
All preserved so that when they try to cover it up, slashdot has a backup.
Indeed. An interesting mention is international mail, because you put US stamps on letters going to Paris, so how do the French get paid for their part of the route? slate did a good writeup on this last year.
I think the people interested in Net Neutrality need to use international mail as an example.
You can buy the NIM and use it instead. I agree, it's a shit router, and I had it setup (this breaks on demand and the guide with the method i used) so that it was just a dumb passthrough device to my regular router.
There's another guide that makes the router act as a NIM and somehow brings VOD and the guide back also on dsl reports that I have not tried, but I did confirm with the tech that if I got a NIM that it would work (he actually mentioned he was experimenting at home with various setups, which was neat).
So yes, the actiontec sucks shit, but I have to use it because until I get a NIM, my girlfriend gets infuriated that she can't find out which channel is playing CSI at the current second.
I can see Bush figuring that attacking Sweden would be a piece of cake, seeing as how they're a neutral country with no army. Tell my wife I said... Hello.
I think you're close, but not fully there. If Dell gave users an option to install both with dual boot setup easily (which might require license haggling), it could be bigger. "No worries, if Linux isn't good for you, switch back to Windows by rebooting!" It's working for Mac, isn't it?
ex post facto adj. Formulated, enacted, or operating retroactively. [Med Lat., from what is done afterwards] Source: AHD
In U.S. Constitutional Law, the definition of what is ex post facto is more limited. The first definition of what exactly constitutes an ex post facto law is found in Calder v Bull (3 US 386 [1798]), in the opinion of Justice Chase:
1st. Every law that makes an action done before the passing of the law, and which was innocent when done, criminal; and punishes such action. 2d. Every law that aggravates a crime, or makes it greater than it was, when committed. 3d. Every law that changes the punishment, and inflicts a greater punishment, than the law annexed to the crime, when committed. 4th. Every law that alters the legal rules of evidence, and receives less, or different, testimony, than the law required at the time of the commission of the offense, in order to convict the offender.
Sony sells you stuff direct, but there's a minimum $5 charge. If you buy something less than $5, you get charged $5, and the remainder goes on your balance.
I happen to use an Apple Airport Extreme myself, because I can hook any usb hard disk/storage device to it (even though a hub) and share it over the network. It has the ability to have unrestricted access, guest access for the 'public' portion, accounts with passwords and their own private shares (sorry, no quotas, but I think you can setup partitions directly on a computer and it'll work fine). Works with Mac and Windows easily, and probably with Linux since it works with Windows. I personally like it a lot, and freedom of drive model/manufacturer choice is nice.
Mark Russinovich, formerly of Sysinternals, stated that there were shortcomings in the software design of the Sony BMG installed rootkit that manifest themselves as security holes that can be exploited by malicious software such as worms or viruses. He also mentioned that the XCP software installed silently before the EULA appeared, that the EULA does not mention the XCP software, and that there was no uninstaller, all of which are illegal in various ways in various jurisdictions.
I don't know if the Warden is mentioned, and I don't know about illegality, but if the WoW software can be hacked, what is to prevent the Warden itself from manipulation from outside programs? Such programs that may steal WoW account information so that gold farmers and the like can misuse under-used accounts for profit?
I don't know if they thought this out fully. If you got a million dollars for your right to vote, you could influence multiple people to vote the way you wanted with that money. Truly turning the tables, right?
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It proves that there's no proof of any of the statements that were supposed to be heinous enough to fully remove the account. An account, I might add, anyone can post to (it was a "confessional" much like grouphug). So, easily, and I'm not saying this WAS the case, but others have postulated it's likely: she could have made the posts, reported them, and they were "caught" by the person running the confessional as being bad before the people at Twitter had the chance to look at them.
It's like if I trolled myself as an AC...
And Staff Sargent Max Fightmaster!
They'd love to, but when the community manager of Pownce (a twitter clone with a few more features) wants to sully the name of Twitter as Pownce is failing, you've gotta be a loud damsel in distress, don't you?
Now the content of the "Ariel says" comment:
All preserved so that when they try to cover it up, slashdot has a backup.
"some" meaning "all"
Beat ya by a minute probably more if this damn slow commenting system wasn't so damn slow
Titan A.E. reference, obviously
Indeed. An interesting mention is international mail, because you put US stamps on letters going to Paris, so how do the French get paid for their part of the route? slate did a good writeup on this last year.
I think the people interested in Net Neutrality need to use international mail as an example.
Are they really going to verify it, though? Learn2Lie.
Hang on now, he was probably using Freenet to post his comment.
You can buy the NIM and use it instead. I agree, it's a shit router, and I had it setup (this breaks on demand and the guide with the method i used) so that it was just a dumb passthrough device to my regular router.
There's another guide that makes the router act as a NIM and somehow brings VOD and the guide back also on dsl reports that I have not tried, but I did confirm with the tech that if I got a NIM that it would work (he actually mentioned he was experimenting at home with various setups, which was neat).
So yes, the actiontec sucks shit, but I have to use it because until I get a NIM, my girlfriend gets infuriated that she can't find out which channel is playing CSI at the current second.
Excuse me, can you check inside this box for me? It's holding Schrödinger's Wikipedia.
An Obamanation talking about "the enemy" forming Smug. Hah.
Roadnav?
You have to switch indexing off first though!
no no no, it costs $100 of USD... for the date it was conceived. The value of the dollar has plummeted since then.
I think you're close, but not fully there. If Dell gave users an option to install both with dual boot setup easily (which might require license haggling), it could be bigger. "No worries, if Linux isn't good for you, switch back to Windows by rebooting!" It's working for Mac, isn't it?
ex post facto adj. Formulated, enacted, or operating retroactively. [Med Lat., from what is done afterwards] Source: AHD
In U.S. Constitutional Law, the definition of what is ex post facto is more limited. The first definition of what exactly constitutes an ex post facto law is found in Calder v Bull (3 US 386 [1798]), in the opinion of Justice Chase:
Sony sells you stuff direct, but there's a minimum $5 charge. If you buy something less than $5, you get charged $5, and the remainder goes on your balance.
Then we'd miss out on a valuable source of entertainment. By the way, just How is babby formed?
Even the Integral Fast Reactor?
The NFSU2? I had read about it as a linux server.
I happen to use an Apple Airport Extreme myself, because I can hook any usb hard disk/storage device to it (even though a hub) and share it over the network. It has the ability to have unrestricted access, guest access for the 'public' portion, accounts with passwords and their own private shares (sorry, no quotas, but I think you can setup partitions directly on a computer and it'll work fine). Works with Mac and Windows easily, and probably with Linux since it works with Windows. I personally like it a lot, and freedom of drive model/manufacturer choice is nice.
As you may have forgotten about the 2005 Sony BMG CD copy prevention scandal, let me refresh your memory.
Mark Russinovich, formerly of Sysinternals, stated that there were shortcomings in the software design of the Sony BMG installed rootkit that manifest themselves as security holes that can be exploited by malicious software such as worms or viruses. He also mentioned that the XCP software installed silently before the EULA appeared, that the EULA does not mention the XCP software, and that there was no uninstaller, all of which are illegal in various ways in various jurisdictions.
I don't know if the Warden is mentioned, and I don't know about illegality, but if the WoW software can be hacked, what is to prevent the Warden itself from manipulation from outside programs? Such programs that may steal WoW account information so that gold farmers and the like can misuse under-used accounts for profit?
I'm not saying it's guaranteed, but it's happened before.
I don't know if they thought this out fully. If you got a million dollars for your right to vote, you could influence multiple people to vote the way you wanted with that money. Truly turning the tables, right?