Re:Why work to shut down discussion?
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You're absolutely right, and to look back at my comment, it was pretty snide flamebait (at least one moderator agreed). I should have cut it off after "get things done" -- since that's what the real movers, including those of GPL'd software, actually do. Discussions and arguments are for the peanut galleries.
Still, there's a certain pretension among those who talk about licenses and don't actually write the code the license covers. I used to get things done, used to do, not talk. Got lazy in my old age I guess.
Technically, encryption does rely on an "obscure algorithm". It relies on the fact that it takes a good long time to find that obscure algorithm unless the receiver possesses all or part of it.
Not that that's the point the GP was ignorantly trying to make, but in the end, it's all about obscurity:)
The "reasonable person" standard prevails. Remember, they have to explain the existence of that extra padding in the document. The jury, assuming it's composed of reasonable people...
sorry, had to take a moment. my co-workers are no doubt wondering what the hysterical laughter was about...
the jury is not likely to believe that you signed away your rights. Now if the employer's document specified a million-dollar signing bonus, then he pulled a switch on you to simply remove it, then the jury might be less inclined to believe you.
Doubtful this sort of thing could happen with employment. A government contract on the other hand...
I'm glad it doesn't have an SD slot. It would be too easy to pull the SD card out of a BlackBerry and therefore steal all my information.
Remind me what the "S" in SD stands for again?
Fact is, the device is good for what it does, which is pretty damn limited. Those of us who need to upload a config from an SD card onto a server they check into with PalmVNC aren't going to use a Blackberry, and we have just as much right as the next blackberry fan to say why. A series of justifications cannot make one device objectively better than another for even a majority of circumstances, let alone all.
The problem they're facing now is getting 1.21 jiggawats through your home power lines. The heat also tends to work the fans a tad.
Re:the code of conduct for free software distribut
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No, the BSD folks will do what they usually do: get things done without stirring up a tempest over the politics, especially that of "who speaks for whom", the precise definitions of "Free Software", and whether a license should or should not fit on a 3x5 card.
Goldwater spoke out before he died against the frauds coopting his movement, but Buckley surfed the swollen wave of power to his grave
Uh, Buckley is still alive. Goldwater's the dead one.
And Goldwater was a staunch supporter of Mcarthy. Not just the man, the ideal. This was the same guy who wanted to escalate the Vietnam War into a nuclear one.
Buckley's more a libertarian than a modern conservative. I doubt he has any real love for the Republican party either.
Sounds a bit like Winchester House. Most of the house was built by Sarah Winchester, the wife of William Winchester, who created the rifle company that bears his name. First her infant son died, then her husband, and she went nuts; she became convinced that her house was haunted by the spirits of native americans who had been killed by winchester rifles. So she had builders come in and build and build and build onto the house, believing that would appease the spirits, or perhaps just keep them busy. The place has 160 rooms and over 40 fireplaces, with stairs that go up to a blank ceiling, cabinets that are actually doors, windows in the floor.
Except the place is actually built really well. Completely deranged, but still with the finest materials and workmanship. Goes to show you can have a psychotic UI on top of a solid base, I guess.
Give it up, I'd argue with you some more, but I'm late and I have to catch my bus and transfer to another, and it takes a while to take two bii to work.
> Independant developers not associated with debian can't make packages and have them available to apt by default.
You can add third-party repositories any time, and nothing prevents people from packaging up a.deb and offering it on their site. This is the same issue you get with redhat, and frankly even slackware. Gentoo makes third party portage subtrees *really* complicated.
The contrast is the fact that the central repository simply doesn't even exist for Windows or MacOS, so everyone's had to use a different distribution method. God knows the packaging mechanism in Windows isn't much to emulate (actually MSI's are quite good, but add/remove programs still sucks immensely), but MacOS might be on t o something with.DMG.
Given the state of GUI package management tools (synaptic is frankly quite clumsy), I don't think integration of packages with the desktop has been a high priority in many people's minds...
Kingdom of Loathing appears to be the graphical evolution of ProgressQuest. It even has some of the same classes and items, e.g. the Beer Giant and Filthy Corduroys.
> Pull your head out of the sand and quit modding me as a troll.
I don't actually care about your content. I actually agree with some of it. I just want you to cease your fucking whining about moderation. How hard is that to understand?
I'm just making you an example. You're hardly the only one this is addressed to.
> (Look at the list of books banned in various parts of the US - "The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe"???)
Go import that piece of superstition into China and notice how the central government bans it. Now watch what a mere local magistrate here does to the ruling of some ignorant redneck backwater. Notice the difference in official policy.
I believe it's a mote in our eye, fella. Them biblical writers were clever, no?
After all, this is the fella who said the mouse would never catch on. His batting average is getting dangerously above epsilon, so out he comes with another idiotic prognostication.
But hey, maybe he's right. I mean, we all know how all C doesn't work on PPC or anything, which is why OSS hackers always stuck with x86 platforms, since nothing can actually compile on a Mac. It's not like gcc ever worked on a Mac or anything, and nothing was ever actually ported. And now that OSX will run on every single cheap x86 platform and will be completely free of charge and open to any customization possible with just a recompile, why run Linux? Changing the machine architecture of course means all that, it's just a natural consequence in Dvorak-land.
Anyone keeping a scorecard of Dvorak's prognostications?
I predict that some people will try to mod me down to suppress the truth, but they will fail.
Then repost it, but for gods sakes, do any of the rest of us give a rat's turd about your fucking persecution complex? I may even agree with some of your points, but if I had mod points, I'd still stuff your whiny ass into the earth's fucking core.
This goes for all the "I'll probably get modded down for this" fucknuts out there as well.
Their behavior boils down to "Wah, I offered my friend a lollipop and he took it."
No, that's slashdot's behavior. Most of the KHTML developers really wish slashdot would keep their damn uninformed blathering to themselves, and while they're at it, get a little informed and stop demanding that KHTML support Safari features within 1 day of implementation because "they're the same codebase, right?"
No one but slashbots are griping incessantly about the licensing.
You can put all the thought and effort into writing intricate story, drama, and atmosphere into a world, make it as immersive as you can, fantastic or authentic, put life into your NPC's with detail, background, motivations, and aspirations, and create a world to enchant the player...
And he will have to share it with thousands of people who use the letter "u" as a pronoun.
Give Trails a try. It's built on Hibernate, and it's still a whole lot more verbose than Rails, but it's probably the closest thing.
I'm glad I work in a company where they just ask me to write the app and don't really care what it's written in. I could write my apps in APL, though they might have kind of a problem with that after the fact. If I had to ask to use Ruby, they'd probably say no, no one else uses it, but if I say "I wrote it in Ruby", they'll hear "I wrote it" first, then I just tell them that Ruby's a lot like perl, and they're fine with it. It's an advantage to being one of the few real coders (relatively speaking) among a department full of perl and shell scripters -- they're just happy you can do it in the first place.
Real nerds don't listen to what random fools on slashdot say about their membership list. I don't despise anyone, including you. Slashdot on the other hand, I'm considering quitting again.
The bath scene. Hardly a sex scene... it was all "off camera". Very PG. However, what was there was done exquisitely and tastefully, which was the thrust (ahem) of the article. I'm quite sure the artistic and writing talent behind that game could have gone on to show an even more erotic scene, but that would get the "AO" label slapped on it, Wal-Mart wouldn't carry it, and the console makers wouldn't publish it. Welcome to the repression of the "free" market.
Not that I think it would have been entirely appropriate to put such a scene in that particular game, but sheesh, I'm 32 years old, I think I could handle it. Games are still for kids. Come to think of it, just about every mass-marketed entertainment out there is -- if not for actual children, then ones that are mentally.
> Didn't the enemies stop moving once they stopped seeing you or does that only happen at lower skill levels?
Some did. Others started moving in erratic patterns, some would take a few shots and then head for an exit. I suppose none of them had real AI, just triggered behavior, but at least it felt like it. Every enemy in Doom3 just makes a beeline straight for you.
I mean yes, they're zombies, but it gets tiresome.
> Ubuntu is only successful because it uses Debian. Get rid of Debian and you'd soon see how successful Ubuntu's approach was.
Get rid of Debian and the Debian developers will flock to Ubuntu. The governing bureaucrats will of course take 18 months to switch, at which time Ubuntu will have picked up the developers without the deadwood.
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You're absolutely right, and to look back at my comment, it was pretty snide flamebait (at least one moderator agreed). I should have cut it off after "get things done" -- since that's what the real movers, including those of GPL'd software, actually do. Discussions and arguments are for the peanut galleries.
Still, there's a certain pretension among those who talk about licenses and don't actually write the code the license covers. I used to get things done, used to do, not talk. Got lazy in my old age I guess.
Technically, encryption does rely on an "obscure algorithm". It relies on the fact that it takes a good long time to find that obscure algorithm unless the receiver possesses all or part of it.
:)
Not that that's the point the GP was ignorantly trying to make, but in the end, it's all about obscurity
> Who'd have to explain things then?
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The "reasonable person" standard prevails. Remember, they have to explain the existence of that extra padding in the document. The jury, assuming it's composed of reasonable people
sorry, had to take a moment. my co-workers are no doubt wondering what the hysterical laughter was about
the jury is not likely to believe that you signed away your rights. Now if the employer's document specified a million-dollar signing bonus, then he pulled a switch on you to simply remove it, then the jury might be less inclined to believe you.
Doubtful this sort of thing could happen with employment. A government contract on the other hand
I'm glad it doesn't have an SD slot. It would be too easy to pull the SD card out of a BlackBerry and therefore steal all my information.
Remind me what the "S" in SD stands for again?
Fact is, the device is good for what it does, which is pretty damn limited. Those of us who need to upload a config from an SD card onto a server they check into with PalmVNC aren't going to use a Blackberry, and we have just as much right as the next blackberry fan to say why. A series of justifications cannot make one device objectively better than another for even a majority of circumstances, let alone all.
The problem they're facing now is getting 1.21 jiggawats through your home power lines. The heat also tends to work the fans a tad.
No, the BSD folks will do what they usually do: get things done without stirring up a tempest over the politics, especially that of "who speaks for whom", the precise definitions of "Free Software", and whether a license should or should not fit on a 3x5 card.
I think most of the jokes just whoosh right over you.
Different groups would be created to fullfill every human needs. Through a system that the main goal isnt profit but true human needs.
Complete this sentence for me, will ya?
"From each according to his ability, ____________________________________."
Though with the reference to open source, I and the rest may have simply been taken in by a stunningly bravura troll.
Goldwater spoke out before he died against the frauds coopting his movement, but Buckley surfed the swollen wave of power to his grave
Uh, Buckley is still alive. Goldwater's the dead one.
And Goldwater was a staunch supporter of Mcarthy. Not just the man, the ideal. This was the same guy who wanted to escalate the Vietnam War into a nuclear one.
Buckley's more a libertarian than a modern conservative. I doubt he has any real love for the Republican party either.
Sounds a bit like Winchester House. Most of the house was built by Sarah Winchester, the wife of William Winchester, who created the rifle company that bears his name. First her infant son died, then her husband, and she went nuts; she became convinced that her house was haunted by the spirits of native americans who had been killed by winchester rifles. So she had builders come in and build and build and build onto the house, believing that would appease the spirits, or perhaps just keep them busy. The place has 160 rooms and over 40 fireplaces, with stairs that go up to a blank ceiling, cabinets that are actually doors, windows in the floor.
Except the place is actually built really well. Completely deranged, but still with the finest materials and workmanship. Goes to show you can have a psychotic UI on top of a solid base, I guess.
Give it up, I'd argue with you some more, but I'm late and I have to catch my bus and transfer to another, and it takes a while to take two bii to work.
> Independant developers not associated with debian can't make packages and have them available to apt by default.
.deb and offering it on their site. This is the same issue you get with redhat, and frankly even slackware. Gentoo makes third party portage subtrees *really* complicated.
.DMG.
You can add third-party repositories any time, and nothing prevents people from packaging up a
The contrast is the fact that the central repository simply doesn't even exist for Windows or MacOS, so everyone's had to use a different distribution method. God knows the packaging mechanism in Windows isn't much to emulate (actually MSI's are quite good, but add/remove programs still sucks immensely), but MacOS might be on t o something with
Given the state of GUI package management tools (synaptic is frankly quite clumsy), I don't think integration of packages with the desktop has been a high priority in many people's minds...
Kingdom of Loathing appears to be the graphical evolution of ProgressQuest. It even has some of the same classes and items, e.g. the Beer Giant and Filthy Corduroys.
> Pull your head out of the sand and quit modding me as a troll.
I don't actually care about your content. I actually agree with some of it. I just want you to cease your fucking whining about moderation. How hard is that to understand?
I'm just making you an example. You're hardly the only one this is addressed to.
> (Look at the list of books banned in various parts of the US - "The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe"???)
Go import that piece of superstition into China and notice how the central government bans it. Now watch what a mere local magistrate here does to the ruling of some ignorant redneck backwater. Notice the difference in official policy.
I believe it's a mote in our eye, fella. Them biblical writers were clever, no?
After all, this is the fella who said the mouse would never catch on. His batting average is getting dangerously above epsilon, so out he comes with another idiotic prognostication.
But hey, maybe he's right. I mean, we all know how all C doesn't work on PPC or anything, which is why OSS hackers always stuck with x86 platforms, since nothing can actually compile on a Mac. It's not like gcc ever worked on a Mac or anything, and nothing was ever actually ported. And now that OSX will run on every single cheap x86 platform and will be completely free of charge and open to any customization possible with just a recompile, why run Linux? Changing the machine architecture of course means all that, it's just a natural consequence in Dvorak-land.
Anyone keeping a scorecard of Dvorak's prognostications?
I predict that some people will try to mod me down to suppress the truth, but they will fail.
Then repost it, but for gods sakes, do any of the rest of us give a rat's turd about your fucking persecution complex? I may even agree with some of your points, but if I had mod points, I'd still stuff your whiny ass into the earth's fucking core.
This goes for all the "I'll probably get modded down for this" fucknuts out there as well.
Their behavior boils down to "Wah, I offered my friend a lollipop and he took it."
No, that's slashdot's behavior. Most of the KHTML developers really wish slashdot would keep their damn uninformed blathering to themselves, and while they're at it, get a little informed and stop demanding that KHTML support Safari features within 1 day of implementation because "they're the same codebase, right?"
No one but slashbots are griping incessantly about the licensing.
You can put all the thought and effort into writing intricate story, drama, and atmosphere into a world, make it as immersive as you can, fantastic or authentic, put life into your NPC's with detail, background, motivations, and aspirations, and create a world to enchant the player ...
And he will have to share it with thousands of people who use the letter "u" as a pronoun.
Give Trails a try. It's built on Hibernate, and it's still a whole lot more verbose than Rails, but it's probably the closest thing.
I'm glad I work in a company where they just ask me to write the app and don't really care what it's written in. I could write my apps in APL, though they might have kind of a problem with that after the fact. If I had to ask to use Ruby, they'd probably say no, no one else uses it, but if I say "I wrote it in Ruby", they'll hear "I wrote it" first, then I just tell them that Ruby's a lot like perl, and they're fine with it. It's an advantage to being one of the few real coders (relatively speaking) among a department full of perl and shell scripters -- they're just happy you can do it in the first place.
Real nerds don't listen to what random fools on slashdot say about their membership list. I don't despise anyone, including you. Slashdot on the other hand, I'm considering quitting again.
You consider hentai games to be "sexy" and mature?
Golly. That stuff is more puerile than any USA porn ever could be.
The bath scene. Hardly a sex scene ... it was all "off camera". Very PG. However, what was there was done exquisitely and tastefully, which was the thrust (ahem) of the article. I'm quite sure the artistic and writing talent behind that game could have gone on to show an even more erotic scene, but that would get the "AO" label slapped on it, Wal-Mart wouldn't carry it, and the console makers wouldn't publish it. Welcome to the repression of the "free" market.
Not that I think it would have been entirely appropriate to put such a scene in that particular game, but sheesh, I'm 32 years old, I think I could handle it. Games are still for kids. Come to think of it, just about every mass-marketed entertainment out there is -- if not for actual children, then ones that are mentally.
> Didn't the enemies stop moving once they stopped seeing you or does that only happen at lower skill levels?
Some did. Others started moving in erratic patterns, some would take a few shots and then head for an exit. I suppose none of them had real AI, just triggered behavior, but at least it felt like it. Every enemy in Doom3 just makes a beeline straight for you.
I mean yes, they're zombies, but it gets tiresome.
> Ubuntu is only successful because it uses Debian. Get rid of Debian and you'd soon see how successful Ubuntu's approach was.
Get rid of Debian and the Debian developers will flock to Ubuntu. The governing bureaucrats will of course take 18 months to switch, at which time Ubuntu will have picked up the developers without the deadwood.
Sounds like a win to me.