...I believe this is a more respectable solution. As much as I enjoy Enterprise, milking what is proving to be an inferior cow doesn't bode well for the future of the Star Trek legacy.
If the Original Series can come back and make a string of viable mainstream theatrical releases as it did, certainly the more recent offerings from the Star Trek universe can make a go of it.
But it won't happen if the last thing on the general public's AND fans' minds is a long painful struggle on life support.
Think Elvis in his waning years and that ought to dissuade the motivation for a embarrasging and glory-less "last hurrah".
Good idea from the viewpoint of saving a series and exploring a marketable idea with appeal to just the type of thinking for crowd that stereotypically would follow this series, but... (on to the next poster)
And the MPAA used HTML 4 TRANSITIONAL (LOOSE!) for the repl. scare page.
Hypocrites!!
BTW, is it obvious to anyone else that the person who dreamt up that page is a former hall monitor?
In other news, M.A.D.D. has successfully removed beer bottles and cans from store shelves in the Southeast US leaving the beer in place. They state that the containers "facilitate the illegal consumption of alcohol by minors".
Curiously, wine, and its containers, were left untouched...
Was Lord of the Rings on Network TV? Was it 47 minutes broken into pieces for commercials? Oh and gee, what WAS their budget?
I see your point, but film is another creature. You aren't comparing apples to apples there.
TV is loaded with crap, to be sure. Especially UPN. But I think the failure of Enterprise is the result of abuse by its parents, not because it was born stupid.
BTW, how many people who watch Enterprise do you honestly think are represented here? *Insert witty remark on how they're ALL here*
Nothing can hold a flame to The Next Generation, we agree there I think.
But the issue of Enterprise looking too modern to convincingly take place in time prior to The Original Series is just Trekkie-fodder. You simply can't produce a modern science fiction/fantasy show on Network TV (i.e. acceptably mainstream production values) AND please die-hards of a beloved franchise who want it to be treated with respect. There may exceptions, such as The Next Generation perhaps, but even then you're talking HUGE compromises for one of those sides.
Name a popular (by the numbers) show on the SciFi channel that you think would last even as long as Enterprise below 13 on your television dial. Shows last on Network TV because they generate revenue for the network. Period.
And this whole business with the opening credits? Please, that's a seperate NON-issue. They make opening credits to compliment the character of the show according to current trends and to simply credit the actors. You all are WAY over ANALyzing them.
I agree with the Matrix plot theories. I read a couple myself that were far superior to the "real thing". The only parts that justified the sequels' existence to me, were the Zion shootout and Trinity dying. Both of which could have been put into one quality follow-up instead of one cash-cow string-along (#2) and one sappy cop-out (#3).
Ditto your X-Files idea for trolling for good ideas. Too bad that won't happen. It could be the one thing that could justify an X-Files flick (just pretend the first one didn't exist, it was just another franchise fan-pandering/scamming piece).
I feel bad for the true fans out there (I don't qualify, I gave up at Season 4 or 5 os so). They're going to be expecting fresh breastmilk straight from momma's teet.
Instead they're going to be unpleasantly shocked at getting some nasty stanky "formula" action.
Isn't it nice to know what you say always comes out perfect and your words are never paraphrased and rearranged to sound as bad as possible.
Why don't you just start a mass chain eemail and clog up everyone's inbox with this vitriol.
What a bunch of whiny hypocrites we've become.
And isn't it sad to think I'll probably be accused of being a M$ employee or Bill's gimp or some Luddite for DARE even SOUNDNG like I'm defending Bill Gates.
I ask you: Who's the communists?
Why don't you just grab a camcorder and a bandana and film yourselves burning Bill in effigy. Post it on the internet to claim your 15 minutes and get it all over with. In the unlikely event an OS, or some large succesful softweare corporation, is ever perfected "enough", what wil you cry foul about then? That the sky isn't blue enough or the grass isn't green enough?
How 'bout we shut our mouths and let our actions do the talking by supporting & promoting ANY exceptional software whether it's Open Source or not?!
So I we Firefox and they put a 2-page ad in a big newspaper. So we use Linux and despise Windows. Whoop-dee-freakin'-doo! So what?!
We act like that's gonna CHANGE the WORLD! Like some starving kid in Rwanda is going to sleep better tonight knowing Linux MAY have a 10% market share in 10 years.
Empty altruitic rantings aside, where's the beef, people?!
*phew...*
I run iTunes all day long at work and it's the first place I look to get a song. Though somewhat altruistic, I believe in supporting artists. If only in principle somethies.
My point was that there are very simple methods to skirt the limitation you cited.
And one of the main reasons I skirt it, is for the very reason you cited: So I can play those songs using the Home Media Option.
I don't share the resulting MP3 files on any "networks" and I'm only doing what could be done by the "Burn CD. Rip CD." approach.
I purchased the Pioneer 810H-S a few months ago. Yes, the TiVo service is great. (All the Anti's in the peanut gallery can leave now...)
I would do it again given that while I am highly tech-savvy, my wife is not. She knows her way around a computer but let's just say I won't be hacking my box any time soon. It's just not worth it to mess with what is working. FYI, I've only HAD to restart my box once due to any sort of technical issue.
As far as what you should buy "now" (vs. waiting indefinitely for the
"perfect" device), I highly recommend looking at one of the TV Guide-based HD recorder/DVD burners out there. Even with the $100 rebate on activating the Plus service (I went with the unit lifetime), I'm still out $500-600 for the pleasure. FYI, TiVo equipped DVD burners come with a free Basic service. Off-brand units (LiteOn, et al) can be had for under 4 c-notes (like here or here...) with many of the same functions. Though I can't vouch for their usability. One thing that could really be an advantage would be the ability to edit out the commercials for burning to DVD, which my unit won't do.
Another consideration you had was the noise and I'll just tell you my unit is NOT quiet, thanks to a rear-mounted ~60 or 80mm fan. To keep it in perspective, it IS being used for television and movie watching. So it's not as though you can hear it very much. I wouldn't recommend this unit for a bedroom.
The nifty, but lesser used, features are nice. Like the Photo & Music over the wireless network from my computer. Or the online scheduling. Nice & handy, but those shouldn't be a deal breaker. To me, this new TiVoToGo "feature" falls in this catergory.
I think I covered the bases, but if you have any questions: shoot.
some months with 30 days, some with 31? a "mini-month" every once in a while? that's easier for the average joe?? this fella needs to go into retail customer service for a time, me thinks.
i'm for the metric system in USA. even open to a base-10 time table. but that calendar is just one man's delusional lust for immortality.
proving, once again, that charisma can overcome reason.
he should just admit that his hidden plan was to "deal with" the black, yellow, & red skins as they just introduce too many "variables" into his "perfect" calendar plan...
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...I believe this is a more respectable solution. As much as I enjoy Enterprise, milking what is proving to be an inferior cow doesn't bode well for the future of the Star Trek legacy.
If the Original Series can come back and make a string of viable mainstream theatrical releases as it did, certainly the more recent offerings from the Star Trek universe can make a go of it.
But it won't happen if the last thing on the general public's AND fans' minds is a long painful struggle on life support.
Think Elvis in his waning years and that ought to dissuade the motivation for a embarrasging and glory-less "last hurrah".
Good idea from the viewpoint of saving a series and exploring a marketable idea with appeal to just the type of thinking for crowd that stereotypically would follow this series, but... (on to the next poster)
that's like saying "Books are Made of English."
you will be yet more saddened when your children are speaking that in a dialect that neither of us shall comprehend...
ok, Dr. Semantic
what TYPE of "audio files"?!
and since when was the "web" just "HTML"?!
Booyah!
correction: mp44 63574p0 l337
And the MPAA used HTML 4 TRANSITIONAL (LOOSE!) for the repl. scare page.
Hypocrites!!
BTW, is it obvious to anyone else that the person who dreamt up that page is a former hall monitor?
In other news, M.A.D.D. has successfully removed beer bottles and cans from store shelves in the Southeast US leaving the beer in place. They state that the containers "facilitate the illegal consumption of alcohol by minors".
Curiously, wine, and its containers, were left untouched...
I know you think your post wasn't a gross over-generalization. But you're wrong.
Obviously if people sneeze, cough, burp or fart they are beyond useless.
*BUUUZZZ* Wrong answer! Thank you for playing.
Was Lord of the Rings on Network TV? Was it 47 minutes broken into pieces for commercials? Oh and gee, what WAS their budget?
I see your point, but film is another creature. You aren't comparing apples to apples there.
TV is loaded with crap, to be sure. Especially UPN. But I think the failure of Enterprise is the result of abuse by its parents, not because it was born stupid.
BTW, how many people who watch Enterprise do you honestly think are represented here? *Insert witty remark on how they're ALL here*
Repeat after me kids: Vocal Minority. Great job!
Nothing can hold a flame to The Next Generation, we agree there I think. But the issue of Enterprise looking too modern to convincingly take place in time prior to The Original Series is just Trekkie-fodder. You simply can't produce a modern science fiction/fantasy show on Network TV (i.e. acceptably mainstream production values) AND please die-hards of a beloved franchise who want it to be treated with respect. There may exceptions, such as The Next Generation perhaps, but even then you're talking HUGE compromises for one of those sides. Name a popular (by the numbers) show on the SciFi channel that you think would last even as long as Enterprise below 13 on your television dial. Shows last on Network TV because they generate revenue for the network. Period. And this whole business with the opening credits? Please, that's a seperate NON-issue. They make opening credits to compliment the character of the show according to current trends and to simply credit the actors. You all are WAY over ANALyzing them.
Deep Space Nine wasn't even a Star Trek series.
But I feel you on the mini-series. If it was HALF as good Band of Brothers, you'd have something to write home about.
Acting?! Look and feel?!
OK, the old cast was endearing and all, but WTF?!!!?
Did any of you WATCH The Original Series?!
Would YOU watch a new show that has crappier sets than Kirk had, so it could "feel" like it took place before him?
For the love, it was plywood looking like an overly lit nuclear facility!
I agree with the Matrix plot theories. I read a couple myself that were far superior to the "real thing". The only parts that justified the sequels' existence to me, were the Zion shootout and Trinity dying. Both of which could have been put into one quality follow-up instead of one cash-cow string-along (#2) and one sappy cop-out (#3).
Ditto your X-Files idea for trolling for good ideas. Too bad that won't happen. It could be the one thing that could justify an X-Files flick (just pretend the first one didn't exist, it was just another franchise fan-pandering/scamming piece).
I feel bad for the true fans out there (I don't qualify, I gave up at Season 4 or 5 os so). They're going to be expecting fresh breastmilk straight from momma's teet.
Instead they're going to be unpleasantly shocked at getting some nasty stanky "formula" action.
We all WISH you could milk that performance from $499.
Actually it's called iBook.
Is this option available for that dough?
If you don't understand what you're reading, the action-packed demo movie won't help.
But it does include an intense space sequence featuring high-speed satellite fly-bys!
Awwww, did somebody get up too early and not have their lil cup o' coffee-woffee?
How cuuute?
Isn't it nice to know what you say always comes out perfect and your words are never paraphrased and rearranged to sound as bad as possible.
Why don't you just start a mass chain eemail and clog up everyone's inbox with this vitriol.
What a bunch of whiny hypocrites we've become.
And isn't it sad to think I'll probably be accused of being a M$ employee or Bill's gimp or some Luddite for DARE even SOUNDNG like I'm defending Bill Gates.
I ask you: Who's the communists?
Why don't you just grab a camcorder and a bandana and film yourselves burning Bill in effigy. Post it on the internet to claim your 15 minutes and get it all over with. In the unlikely event an OS, or some large succesful softweare corporation, is ever perfected "enough", what wil you cry foul about then? That the sky isn't blue enough or the grass isn't green enough?
How 'bout we shut our mouths and let our actions do the talking by supporting & promoting ANY exceptional software whether it's Open Source or not?!
So I we Firefox and they put a 2-page ad in a big newspaper. So we use Linux and despise Windows. Whoop-dee-freakin'-doo! So what?!
We act like that's gonna CHANGE the WORLD! Like some starving kid in Rwanda is going to sleep better tonight knowing Linux MAY have a 10% market share in 10 years.
Empty altruitic rantings aside, where's the beef, people?! *phew...*
I agree. In fact, I fit that profile to a tee.
I run iTunes all day long at work and it's the first place I look to get a song. Though somewhat altruistic, I believe in supporting artists. If only in principle somethies.
My point was that there are very simple methods to skirt the limitation you cited.
And one of the main reasons I skirt it, is for the very reason you cited: So I can play those songs using the Home Media Option.
I don't share the resulting MP3 files on any "networks" and I'm only doing what could be done by the "Burn CD. Rip CD." approach.
What are your thoughts?
Oh and the LiteOn unit has a IEEE 1394 port up front.
Another point against my box.
Given the options around that, I'd say: why?
And why would you want your files stuck in a proprietary format, Mr. Legal Eagle?
C'mon, everybody's doin' it!
=)
I purchased the Pioneer 810H-S a few months ago. Yes, the TiVo service is great. (All the Anti's in the peanut gallery can leave now...)
I would do it again given that while I am highly tech-savvy, my wife is not. She knows her way around a computer but let's just say I won't be hacking my box any time soon. It's just not worth it to mess with what is working. FYI, I've only HAD to restart my box once due to any sort of technical issue.
As far as what you should buy "now" (vs. waiting indefinitely for the "perfect" device), I highly recommend looking at one of the TV Guide-based HD recorder/DVD burners out there. Even with the $100 rebate on activating the Plus service (I went with the unit lifetime), I'm still out $500-600 for the pleasure. FYI, TiVo equipped DVD burners come with a free Basic service. Off-brand units (LiteOn, et al) can be had for under 4 c-notes (like here or here...) with many of the same functions. Though I can't vouch for their usability. One thing that could really be an advantage would be the ability to edit out the commercials for burning to DVD, which my unit won't do.
Another consideration you had was the noise and I'll just tell you my unit is NOT quiet, thanks to a rear-mounted ~60 or 80mm fan. To keep it in perspective, it IS being used for television and movie watching. So it's not as though you can hear it very much. I wouldn't recommend this unit for a bedroom.
The nifty, but lesser used, features are nice. Like the Photo & Music over the wireless network from my computer. Or the online scheduling. Nice & handy, but those shouldn't be a deal breaker. To me, this new TiVoToGo "feature" falls in this catergory.
I think I covered the bases, but if you have any questions: shoot.
some months with 30 days, some with 31? a "mini-month" every once in a while? that's easier for the average joe?? this fella needs to go into retail customer service for a time, me thinks.
i'm for the metric system in USA. even open to a base-10 time table. but that calendar is just one man's delusional lust for immortality.
proving, once again, that charisma can overcome reason.
he should just admit that his hidden plan was to "deal with" the black, yellow, & red skins as they just introduce too many "variables" into his "perfect" calendar plan...