You're using the terms (Israeli) Arabs and Palestinians interchangeably, which of course they are, it's the same families and people as next door in Palestine just they have Israeli IDs, and of course own land and vote. In fact the first Sunni Muslim Arab was just this week appointed a cabinet member.
Palestinians are those who fled/were forced to flee in 1948 when the Arabs tried to kill the Jews. They own their own land (which is also taken by settlers/government/army) and they do vote, but not in Israel. If they continue to vote the way they do, there'll probably be another war and then they will be back in Israel, but that's a different story altogether.
And Palestinians have been in the Knesset, not on it. Sorry to nit pick, but the details are important.
Still, despite it being a hoax I got bluetooth pinged on the train, I hoped by young hotties, but alas it was the Cabir Symbian bluetooth worm which just got onto my phone and tried to propagate itself (it did to my Mac where I dismantled it).
There is a piece of software to help you against this, but now to avoid getting infected in the first place I wrapped my phone in a condom. If I do get infected again, at least it can't reproduce. It also means that if I do get lucky with young hotties I have a (slightly soiled) condom to hand. Result!
Unfortunately my touch screen doesn't work so well now
Yeah, just ask the Chinese about Tibet, or the Iraqi's about Kirkuk, the Russians about the Baltic states, the British about Northern Ireland and Wales, the French about Algeria....
If you're on the commercial side of an open source company, it is imperative you read this report.
This report answers bucketloads of questions about where to approach the market and how to do so. It also provides clear impartial metrics which you can present to decision makers and strategy people at your customers. Miss this at your peril.
Actually space programs seem to have pessimism-induced affluence. Because "they" could rule space, we need to plough millions into programs that may possibly at some unspecified point have some use;-)
I tried to leave you a voicemail a couple of light years ago, but haven't heard back so I'm taking the liberty to approach you out-of-the-blue.
The President of Earth is planning a road trip in your region over the next few eons and we're looking to set up strategic meetings with partners and potential reference enterprise star systems to grow our activity in your area. As we grow our unique blend of factional religious wars, fossil-fueled planetary suicide, coca-colonial capitalism, short sighted foreign policy, anti-social youth, teenage pregnancy, drug trafficking, blood diamonds and illegal arms transfers we're looking for partners in our long run success.
If you would like to arrange an introductory meeting with our President, we'll show you how you can implement our unique flavour of self-destruction.
RSVP by radio please.
Mr. L. Presidente
------------------------
Seriously, why should anyone want to hear from us? can't we leave these poor fuckers alone?
Perhaps I'm wrong, but doesn't GPS need a satellite signal for it to provide location info? I can see all those MacBook toting trendies (me included!) hanging out of top floor windows just trying to get some reception (unless of course Wifi hotspots will all have GPS tags associated with them!)
1) Microsoft has the partners and retail gravy train wrapped up very nicely. I don't think saving $10 is interesting for most people when they are terrified of installing anything to do with Windows and don't even know what an "Operating System" is.
2) Linux afficionados have traditionally mocked "marketing" but this has to change to appeal to Joe & Josie Blogs.
I say better to sell specialized Linux boxes for home/Media Center use, small business server use etc... or internet-centric ones via large telco ISPs. Of course it's the same stuff in different hardware boxes and GUI wrappers.
Community has no sales reps, no in-store trainers, no incentives programs. But - the community has a kick-ass support system. What if you could have free 24/7 online real human support for all apps built into your OS? There are a bunch of things Linux could do to compete on a completely different level.
For the sake of argument: I am a large consumer electronics store. I can charge more for my Windows machines (adds to my top line) and get a nicer margin. Why on earth would I sell Linux boxes?
I'm waiting for the meme "Forrester, the beleaguered research company" to take root.
Personally, I think Forrester should stick to advice and should outsource all their research to "Apple should outsource hardware to Dell" Gartner.
It's tough being a research analyst - you can press your face to the window, you can hear the music and see the guests, but they'll never let you into the party.
> While I don't currently have or need a support contract from MySQL
I think this says it all for most Debian users. They are either in-house experts, testing the water for their app or don't have a culture of procurement (read: lower budget or just plain cheap). This is not a criticism, it's just a business reality.
MySQL is a business, unless we want them to go out of business and drop support for everything there's not much to complain about.
the radio technology is not such a big deal - in any case it's handled by chips from people like Broadcom, Nokia and Motorola don't do the chipsets.
3rd party apps will be handled by dashboard widgets and probably J2ME - Apple will supply a decent stack of most important apps on the phone anyway as with Mac OS - probably cut-down versions of some of the desktop stuff.
The one thing this phone must support are Powerpoint Presentations like Windows Mobile does... er, maybe not..
All businesses operate for-profit, that doesn't make them an inherently good investment. MySQL is venture funded, so you can't put any money in until they go public (which could be quite a way off)
I don't think Apple need to commission original programming, and this is the bit you missed.
If you look at what record companies do/did: 1) find artists and buy their souls 2) produce music packages (albums in studios) 3) print CDs 4) ship CDs 5) market 6) sue (this stage used to be optional;))
Now let's look at the new world: 1) find artists etc.. - no need, just open a space on MySpace, then iTunes or produce them on American Idol (or local equivalent) 2) product music package - that's not so hard any more, you need some funding (music VC? sell shares to early fans?) or can do it yourself with a Mac & software totalling less than $5K. 3) print CDs - no need 4) ship CDs - no need 5) market - organic long tail growth via MySpace/iTunes/blogs or for mass market iTunes recommendations filters & emails.... 6) sue - no need
Well, can you see record companies there? - Didn't think so.
How 'bout they go after (read: sign deal with/sue for) the money in the list above: 1) Users - check 2) MySpace - check 3) iTunes - check 4) Artists - hmmmm
See, you're not left with many choices any more as a music label, the only place you're still really relevant is providing musicians with a steady stream of quality narcotics....
Ray - couple of questions for you:
1) Any idea why it's UMG who are always suing? What's with the other 3 majors?
2) How do these law suits bubble up? Do you think it's a business objective looking for more revenue streams? Is it UMG's lawyers pro-actively pushing a list of targets?
If I choose to buy an item from a retailer that is my business, it's my money after all.
M&S have no right to know what I have bought, this is a clear breach of my privacy.
P.S. Anybody else notice the big cameras on the ceiling?
Open source technical primadonna customers (majority of users) will use your software, not contribute anything and also not pay you for support. No profit. Many IT Directors still equate open source as free (as in beer). No profit.
In short, you could have left point 3 as just a "?" and saved typing profit.
The majority of the value in open source are by the users, not by the creators. So while the title of the posting was right on with "How Do You Make a Profit While Using Open Source?", he's actually asking "How Do You Make a Profit While Creating Open Source?"
Oddly, open source users are maligned as Communists. Personally I think open source is the biggest rip-off of excess capital even more than the capitalist system.
The "make loads of money on support" myth is based on Red Hat (are Novell and MySQL so financially cashed up from customer money...?) and basically promoting a business model based on the charity of strangers or a small user base where you have a very close personal relationship (yeah, that's scalable!). Better to sell consulting based around your technology, rather than insurance.
You are jumping semantic hoops. Perhaps you would be happier if he said he was interested in a "final solution of the Jewish Problem" - then at least we'd be able to tell he was only trying to help, not cause any harm...
Seriously, if you lived in the region you'd be **very** concerned. If you want to go into Talmudic dissection of his words you can, but I think (and so does almost anyone else) it's quite clear from Iranian foreign policy and military investment what the intent is.
Ahmadinejad repeatedly comes out with things like this. If he's not linguistically spot-on as you suggest, you may agree that it's an unusual subject to keep speaking about.
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er... are you sure you were responding to my comment? What is 5/6ths and how is it opposite?
tropical rainforests create their own clouds and rainfall this way, this is one of the reasons that cutting them down creates dustbowls
You're using the terms (Israeli) Arabs and Palestinians interchangeably, which of course they are, it's the same families and people as next door in Palestine just they have Israeli IDs, and of course own land and vote. In fact the first Sunni Muslim Arab was just this week appointed a cabinet member.
Palestinians are those who fled/were forced to flee in 1948 when the Arabs tried to kill the Jews. They own their own land (which is also taken by settlers/government/army) and they do vote, but not in Israel. If they continue to vote the way they do, there'll probably be another war and then they will be back in Israel, but that's a different story altogether.
And Palestinians have been in the Knesset, not on it. Sorry to nit pick, but the details are important.
Still, despite it being a hoax I got bluetooth pinged on the train, I hoped by young hotties, but alas it was the Cabir Symbian bluetooth worm which just got onto my phone and tried to propagate itself (it did to my Mac where I dismantled it).
There is a piece of software to help you against this, but now to avoid getting infected in the first place I wrapped my phone in a condom. If I do get infected again, at least it can't reproduce. It also means that if I do get lucky with young hotties I have a (slightly soiled) condom to hand. Result!
Unfortunately my touch screen doesn't work so well now
Yeah, just ask the Chinese about Tibet, or the Iraqi's about Kirkuk, the Russians about the Baltic states, the British about Northern Ireland and Wales, the French about Algeria....
If you're on the commercial side of an open source company, it is imperative you read this report.
This report answers bucketloads of questions about where to approach the market and how to do so. It also provides clear impartial metrics which you can present to decision makers and strategy people at your customers. Miss this at your peril.
include_once "bill_is_that_you.inc".....
> Don't forget the affluence-induced pessimism.
;-)
Actually space programs seem to have pessimism-induced affluence. Because "they" could rule space, we need to plough millions into programs that may possibly at some unspecified point have some use
Hi,
I tried to leave you a voicemail a couple of light years ago, but haven't heard back so I'm taking the liberty to approach you out-of-the-blue.
The President of Earth is planning a road trip in your region over the next few eons and we're looking to set up strategic meetings with partners and potential reference enterprise star systems to grow our activity in your area. As we grow our unique blend of factional religious wars, fossil-fueled planetary suicide, coca-colonial capitalism, short sighted foreign policy, anti-social youth, teenage pregnancy, drug trafficking, blood diamonds and illegal arms transfers we're looking for partners in our long run success.
If you would like to arrange an introductory meeting with our President, we'll show you how you can implement our unique flavour of self-destruction.
RSVP by radio please.
Mr. L. Presidente
------------------------
Seriously, why should anyone want to hear from us? can't we leave these poor fuckers alone?
Perhaps I'm wrong, but doesn't GPS need a satellite signal for it to provide location info? I can see all those MacBook toting trendies (me included!) hanging out of top floor windows just trying to get some reception (unless of course Wifi hotspots will all have GPS tags associated with them!)
I basically had 2 points:
1) Microsoft has the partners and retail gravy train wrapped up very nicely. I don't think saving $10 is interesting for most people when they are terrified of installing anything to do with Windows and don't even know what an "Operating System" is.
2) Linux afficionados have traditionally mocked "marketing" but this has to change to appeal to Joe & Josie Blogs.
I say better to sell specialized Linux boxes for home/Media Center use, small business server use etc... or internet-centric ones via large telco ISPs. Of course it's the same stuff in different hardware boxes and GUI wrappers.
Community has no sales reps, no in-store trainers, no incentives programs. But - the community has a kick-ass support system. What if you could have free 24/7 online real human support for all apps built into your OS? There are a bunch of things Linux could do to compete on a completely different level.
For the sake of argument:
I am a large consumer electronics store.
I can charge more for my Windows machines (adds to my top line) and get a nicer margin.
Why on earth would I sell Linux boxes?
I'm waiting for the meme "Forrester, the beleaguered research company" to take root.
Personally, I think Forrester should stick to advice and should outsource all their research to "Apple should outsource hardware to Dell" Gartner.
It's tough being a research analyst - you can press your face to the window, you can hear the music and see the guests, but they'll never let you into the party.
> While I don't currently have or need a support contract from MySQL
I think this says it all for most Debian users. They are either in-house experts, testing the water for their app or don't have a culture of procurement (read: lower budget or just plain cheap). This is not a criticism, it's just a business reality.
MySQL is a business, unless we want them to go out of business and drop support for everything there's not much to complain about.
ROFLMAO
"Many people are now discovering".... the article you link to is from 2002, pre dating many things in PHP.
Who has heard of "GBDirect"? Perhaps more people know Yahoo & Wanadoo.....
Cool! You've also read the Bell Curve! Until I read that book I thought I just had a big ego. Turns out I am indeed superior.
the radio technology is not such a big deal - in any case it's handled by chips from people like Broadcom, Nokia and Motorola don't do the chipsets.
3rd party apps will be handled by dashboard widgets and probably J2ME - Apple will supply a decent stack of most important apps on the phone anyway as with Mac OS - probably cut-down versions of some of the desktop stuff.
The one thing this phone must support are Powerpoint Presentations like Windows Mobile does... er, maybe not..
All businesses operate for-profit, that doesn't make them an inherently good investment.
MySQL is venture funded, so you can't put any money in until they go public (which could be quite a way off)
I don't think Apple need to commission original programming, and this is the bit you missed.
;))
If you look at what record companies do/did:
1) find artists and buy their souls
2) produce music packages (albums in studios)
3) print CDs
4) ship CDs
5) market
6) sue (this stage used to be optional
Now let's look at the new world:
1) find artists etc..
- no need, just open a space on MySpace, then iTunes or produce them on American Idol (or local equivalent)
2) product music package
- that's not so hard any more, you need some funding (music VC? sell shares to early fans?) or can do it yourself with a Mac & software totalling less than $5K.
3) print CDs
- no need
4) ship CDs
- no need
5) market
- organic long tail growth via MySpace/iTunes/blogs or for mass market iTunes recommendations filters & emails....
6) sue
- no need
Well, can you see record companies there? - Didn't think so.
How 'bout they go after (read: sign deal with/sue for) the money in the list above:
1) Users - check
2) MySpace - check
3) iTunes - check
4) Artists - hmmmm
See, you're not left with many choices any more as a music label, the only place you're still really relevant is providing musicians with a steady stream of quality narcotics....
Ray - couple of questions for you: 1) Any idea why it's UMG who are always suing? What's with the other 3 majors? 2) How do these law suits bubble up? Do you think it's a business objective looking for more revenue streams? Is it UMG's lawyers pro-actively pushing a list of targets?
Goodness, the Nazi's may have been evil Dude, we're talking about Icebergs, not Goldbergs - what's the Nazi link?
If I choose to buy an item from a retailer that is my business, it's my money after all. M&S have no right to know what I have bought, this is a clear breach of my privacy. P.S. Anybody else notice the big cameras on the ceiling?
This is a big gamble.
Open source technical primadonna customers (majority of users) will use your software, not contribute anything and also not pay you for support. No profit.
Many IT Directors still equate open source as free (as in beer). No profit.
In short, you could have left point 3 as just a "?" and saved typing profit.
The majority of the value in open source are by the users, not by the creators.
So while the title of the posting was right on with "How Do You Make a Profit While Using Open Source?", he's actually asking "How Do You Make a Profit While Creating Open Source?"
Oddly, open source users are maligned as Communists. Personally I think open source is the biggest rip-off of excess capital even more than the capitalist system.
The "make loads of money on support" myth is based on Red Hat (are Novell and MySQL so financially cashed up from customer money...?) and basically promoting a business model based on the charity of strangers or a small user base where you have a very close personal relationship (yeah, that's scalable!). Better to sell consulting based around your technology, rather than insurance.
You are jumping semantic hoops. Perhaps you would be happier if he said he was interested in a "final solution of the Jewish Problem" - then at least we'd be able to tell he was only trying to help, not cause any harm...
Seriously, if you lived in the region you'd be **very** concerned. If you want to go into Talmudic dissection of his words you can, but I think (and so does almost anyone else) it's quite clear from Iranian foreign policy and military investment what the intent is.
Ahmadinejad repeatedly comes out with things like this. If he's not linguistically spot-on as you suggest, you may agree that it's an unusual subject to keep speaking about.
no, most people posting seem to like RoR or Python. User base is something else (much lower by all metrics).