...of when I was doing tech support for a DSL provider, and we had people that called that still used AOL alongside DSL. When informed that they didn't need to AOL software to access the internet anymore, they responded "We want to keep our AOL email address for our business."
This isn't a technology reporting site, nor is it news.
Oh, I'm sorry. I must have been mistaken when I read the slogan reading "News for nerds. Stuff that matters." I must have been totally out of my mind to think this was a site for the news! Maybe they should change the slogan to "Circle-jerks for nerds. Stuff that splatters."
Fuck you mods, I'm leaving this poor excuse of a technology reporting site. Digg has a way better method of promoting stories to the frontpage. Sick and tired of seeing all these stupid fucking articles being posted to the homepage. Like that guy on Ask/. that was asking how for advice on looking for a job... c'mon this shit is actually NEWSWORTHY??? This is supposed to be a NEWS SITE people, bickering whether or not cutscenes are cool in games or not is NOT THE FUCKING NEWS.
Space exploration is a job for probots, not people.
I unlike some people actually dream of someday flying into space. It may be just a dream right now, but so was the idea of man flying 250 years ago (keep in mind balloons.)
...asking whether or not Verizon has the right to set aside bandwidth for its own projects.
Verizon has the right to do whatever it wants with the bandwidth it pays for. If you don't like it, switch to another service. I'm sure they have a clause somewhere deep in their TOS that allows them to change the bandwidth available to their customers, otherwise they wouldn't be doing this. Anyone with conflicting info care to respond?
I can just imagine what it will be like when a patent dispute happens. We already have enough BS patents out there clogging up the patent office that slow them down, how is this going to help any? I agree that patents need to be granted more quickly, but is giving out patents without formal examination really the answer?
The worldwide high score for Geometry Wars is 12.8 million.
No offense, but this is news? Go ahead, mod me troll, but it will just prove my point even further that this site has lost a lot of it's credibility when it comes to reporting worthwhile news.
...of number crunchers and the oregon trail. Schools have been doing this for a long time, this isn't really a *new* concept. However I do think it's a great idea to use games to teach kids things, it keeps them interested in the subject at hand unlike a boring textbook.
If it gains usage, then it starts being targetted with code for popups etc.
Well, since FF blocks popups by default, I don't see how this would become a problem. If it was a possibility, it would have become a problem a long time ago seeing as FF does have a pretty decent chunk of the market share already. Thing is, even with IE7, it still doesn't block popups by default, you have to go in and turn that feature on. I agree with you though as my post shows, I really don't care if I'm the only person using FF or if the whole world uses it. If you like it, then use it. If you don't, then try using something else.
Heh, just realised my mistake. Had I said 99.99% for IE it would've worked, but... oh well. I was just trying to make a point and wasn't really thinking about the exact math behind it at the time.
I'm so sick of statistics. Who really cares whether IE or Firefox has more market share? Even if Firefox has.005% market share, and IE has 99.999% market share, I will continue to use Firefox. If 99.999% of the world jumped off a bridge, would you do the same thing?
From TFA: For approximately 250,000 of the patients, Social Security numbers were on the records, according to the health system. Some of the records also included patient financial information.
Honestly... what the hell does this have to do with technology, science, or anything pertinent to this site? This is the most retarded post I've ever seen on/. (no offense to the poster.) Dude, go talk to your parents about this kind of thing. Slashdotters are losers anyways (me included); why would you want advice from us? More importantly though, how did this question make it to the homepage? One will never know...
Yeah Sony should just make it super easy for people to pirate games and then the game system would do really well! And you could put tons of porn on an UMD! Think of the possibilities!
Oh wait, they already included a MemoryStick slot which can use 2GB cards. I can put my porn on an overpriced MemoryStick, Stick it in my PSP, and then Stick my *ahem* in my hand. In the end, Sony shoves their Stick up my ass and everyone is happy (especially my anus which now has a rootkit installed)
This kind of reminds me of the whole Shenmue thing. When are we going to see Shenmue 15 as promised? Ryo needs to find "that man" he's been looking for.
I've been using it as my primary platform for four years, at which point i decided that the desktop would never be polished enough. But i still use Linux most of the time, remotly, and in fact my work is something like maybe 50% development 50% Linux admin.
Wait... so you used Linux for four years and only then finally decided the desktop would never be polished enough? How is this so, with increased reliability, ease of use, and yes, even polish being added every year?
Dude if i took the time to write explorer.exe it's because i'm not talking about internet explorer, but about explorer.exe . The Windows's shell and window manager, that is.
My bad. Let me just repost what I had said earlier:
I will agree, explorer does suck. But why did it take them this long to finally rewrite it? Knowing Microsoft and their coding practices, there will still be many bugs and just as many security holes as before. M$ has not been known for releasing stable / bug free / secure software. Now maybe they will prove me wrong, but honestly I don't care because I already have a stable and secure GUI. No need for me to try out a commercial product that comes bundled with a horrible OS when I have an OSS alternative that is much better and costs nothing.
And No, Windows box do not "crash ALL the time". It's just that you're so sure of it that you've never taken the time to understand how Windows works, and you're probably using it in totally stupid ways. That's what makes me laugh about people like you: you can't be bothered to learn a single thing about windows, and yet when something goes wrong you decide that it's the system's fault.
You are awfully certain of my background in computers before you even know me. I've used almost every single Microsoft Product since DOS, including Win 3.1, 95, 98, even ME, 2000, and XP. I know plenty about Windows. The only way you can use Windows is in a stupid way. They make you run in admin to run most games, or install most programs. When something goes wrong, it usually IS the systems fault. It's not like I would go deleting files out of the system32 folder for fun, I knew how to setup Windows and maintain it properly. Unfortunately, even this does not prevent crashes and lockups, and this can be verified with many people I know who run Windows and have it crash on them. However, the larger problem is the spyware / viruses.
If it was Linux, you'd be thinking that you must have done something wrong, because linux IS stable, you've been taughted. But no, you act like the most braindead user you can find, run as admin, and basically act in ways you wouldn't even think of in Linux.
"You've been taughted?" Windows MAKES you run in admin if you want to play games or install most programs. Of course I wouldn't think of running in admin in Linux because I can still play games and do most everything as a normal user, and su when I need to.
I know that, because let me tell you i've had several XP boxes, and I can't remember a *SINGLE* crash on any of them.
Well thats great for you. However, there are millions of people out there that experience crashes in Windows and just seem to live with it because they don't mind a reboot. Why is this considered normal? Why is it "normal" to have to install 3 or 4 anti-spyware programs and an anti-virus checker?
I've have some BSODs but they were all due to bad hardware and the issue was resolved as soon as i changed the hardware. You don't seem to understand that the 9x era is over, and that the NT branch is a totally different system, as different from 9x that linux was different from 9x. But you just look at the UI and think that it's the same thing because you can't see the difference...
I can't see the difference because it's coming from the same company that bought a Quick and Dirty Operating System and sold it to IBM as if they had made it themselves.
Despite the general feeling here, i'm starting to be really interested in vista... It seems they have fixed almost everything that was wrong with windows. I mean:
Please don't make claims such as this (fixed almost everything) because it makes you sound like a M$ PR guy (or fanboy) which you probably are.
* Explorer rewriten from scratch. This was long, long overdue and that alone would make me interested in Vista. Explorer makes windows looks buggy sometimes but it's only explorer.exe which sucks...
I will agree, explorer does suck. But why did it take them this long to finally rewrite it? Knowing Microsoft and their coding practices, there will still be many bugs and just as many security holes as before. M$ has not been known for releasing stable / bug free / secure software. Now maybe they will prove me wrong, but honestly I don't care because I already have a stable and secure browser in Firefox. No need for me to try out a commercial product that comes bundled with a horrible OS when I have an OSS alternative that is much better and costs nothing.
* Monad. A real shell, which could possibly be much more powerfull than say bash+ standard Unix commands (or cygwin...)
Please expand on this... such as what commands will actually be useful and powerful compared to Linux/Unix where almost anything (even watching videos) can be done through the CLI.
* They're moving the graphics subsystems and all the bloody drivers in userland. That means it will be dead stable, period. 2000 and Xp are already at least as stable as Linux, and maybe more. After that i'm sorry but Linux will compare the same way to Windows that Win95 did to Linux...
How are the drivers "bloody?" Drivers, if you don't know, are what make your computer work. Without them, your computer would be pretty "bloody" useless. 2000 and XP as stable as Linux? Maybe more? Are you ignorant, or being payed off by M$? Windows has numerous problems with memory leaks and Windows boxes crash ALL the time. Maybe not from BSOD anymore, but leave a brand new Windows PC on for a few months, it will crash or get to a point where it runs extremely slow. Linux is known to have uptimes of multiple years, usually the only reason a linux server will go down is a hardware failure! I'd like to hear the same of a Windows box (not to mention the viruses and spyware which can destroy a Windows PC) Comparing Windows 95 to Linux? Back in '95? Yeah, I'm sure Windows was a little more polished, considering Linux had only been around for 4 years and was still a complete hobbyist project at the time...
* A hardware accelerated graphic system, ala Quartz. It should rock even if They'll probably make it look and act totally stupid out of the box, overusing their new power...
Big deal, a hardware rendered GUI. OS-X has been doing it for a while now, and there are projects in Linux for KDE and Gnome to have hardware accelerated graphics. Nothing new here, just MS hopping on the bandwagon again.
And people complain that there is nothing new in Vista, phew... I mean if they manage to do all those things, and do them the right way like they seem to be decided to (for once...) it will be damn worth a new release... And no, i'm not a microsoft fanboy, i've been using Linux since 97 and I really like it where it shines. But if you have even a little objectivity you can't say the stuff they're putting here is not interesting...
No one is saying MS isn't putting anything new in Vista. We're just saying its similar to Windows ME, which really didn't fix any of the problems inherent in 98 & 95 (in fact made it worse) and just tacked a bunch of eyecandy and useless features that bloat the system. If you've been using Linux since 97, then why aren't you still using Linux? It has far surpassed Windows in terms of functionality and stability. It sounds to me like you "tried out" Linux in 97, were put off by
Either that, or at the time there were no Linux drivers for my graphics card or webcam, there were no decent games for it, and the only available web browser even remotely compatible with most sites was POS Netscape.
It's unfortunate that people purchase hardware without checking into compatibility first. I like to investigate products I purchase to make sure they work with my particular setup. I play many Windows games in Linux, such as TFC, Counter-Strike, World of Warcraft, Guild Wars... etc. All running perfectly smooth with low pings. How do I do this? It's called Cedega. Not to mention there are thousands of fun (and free) homebrew Linux games out there. Is IE any better than "POS" Netscape? Firefox is better than both. What's your point?
Take your own "you couldn't figure out how to use Linux" elitist BS back into your hole.
Just because I'm defending Linux doesn't make me an "elitist." I'm defending it because I'm sick of hearing stupid BS being talked about how Linux sucks so bad when you don't want to take the time to learn how to use it properly.
That's why they're not there.
Weren't we also talking about OSX? Rich people that doen't know what to do with their money, and graphic designers / multimedia artists with lots of money? Millions of them? This wouldn't appeal to the average hacker or spyware writer? Suuuuuure.
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...of when I was doing tech support for a DSL provider, and we had people that called that still used AOL alongside DSL. When informed that they didn't need to AOL software to access the internet anymore, they responded "We want to keep our AOL email address for our business."
That made me laugh.
And what makes /. so great, is NOT the stories themselves, but instead the further discussion of them
We already discussed this today! Is it really a topic worth posting a SECOND time, for a SECOND discussion?
This isn't a technology reporting site, nor is it news.
Oh, I'm sorry. I must have been mistaken when I read the slogan reading "News for nerds. Stuff that matters." I must have been totally out of my mind to think this was a site for the news! Maybe they should change the slogan to "Circle-jerks for nerds. Stuff that splatters."
Fuck you mods, I'm leaving this poor excuse of a technology reporting site. Digg has a way better method of promoting stories to the frontpage. Sick and tired of seeing all these stupid fucking articles being posted to the homepage. Like that guy on Ask /. that was asking how for advice on looking for a job... c'mon this shit is actually NEWSWORTHY??? This is supposed to be a NEWS SITE people, bickering whether or not cutscenes are cool in games or not is NOT THE FUCKING NEWS.
Must be a slow news day, ehh?
Space exploration is a job for probots, not people.
I unlike some people actually dream of someday flying into space. It may be just a dream right now, but so was the idea of man flying 250 years ago (keep in mind balloons.)
It is good to see the cost of deploying satellites dropping. Maybe this will free the astronauts to do what they were meant to do, explore space.
...asking whether or not Verizon has the right to set aside bandwidth for its own projects.
Verizon has the right to do whatever it wants with the bandwidth it pays for. If you don't like it, switch to another service. I'm sure they have a clause somewhere deep in their TOS that allows them to change the bandwidth available to their customers, otherwise they wouldn't be doing this. Anyone with conflicting info care to respond?
I can just imagine what it will be like when a patent dispute happens. We already have enough BS patents out there clogging up the patent office that slow them down, how is this going to help any? I agree that patents need to be granted more quickly, but is giving out patents without formal examination really the answer?
The worldwide high score for Geometry Wars is 12.8 million.
No offense, but this is news? Go ahead, mod me troll, but it will just prove my point even further that this site has lost a lot of it's credibility when it comes to reporting worthwhile news.
...of number crunchers and the oregon trail. Schools have been doing this for a long time, this isn't really a *new* concept. However I do think it's a great idea to use games to teach kids things, it keeps them interested in the subject at hand unlike a boring textbook.
If it gains usage, then it starts being targetted with code for popups etc.
Well, since FF blocks popups by default, I don't see how this would become a problem. If it was a possibility, it would have become a problem a long time ago seeing as FF does have a pretty decent chunk of the market share already. Thing is, even with IE7, it still doesn't block popups by default, you have to go in and turn that feature on. I agree with you though as my post shows, I really don't care if I'm the only person using FF or if the whole world uses it. If you like it, then use it. If you don't, then try using something else.
Oh yeah, and it would add up to 100.004% BTW =P
Heh, just realised my mistake. Had I said 99.99% for IE it would've worked, but... oh well. I was just trying to make a point and wasn't really thinking about the exact math behind it at the time.
I'm so sick of statistics. Who really cares whether IE or Firefox has more market share? Even if Firefox has .005% market share, and IE has 99.999% market share, I will continue to use Firefox. If 99.999% of the world jumped off a bridge, would you do the same thing?
First shot! err... post
From TFA: For approximately 250,000 of the patients, Social Security numbers were on the records, according to the health system. Some of the records also included patient financial information.
Thanks for the tip!
Honestly... what the hell does this have to do with technology, science, or anything pertinent to this site? This is the most retarded post I've ever seen on /. (no offense to the poster.) Dude, go talk to your parents about this kind of thing. Slashdotters are losers anyways (me included); why would you want advice from us? More importantly though, how did this question make it to the homepage? One will never know...
Yeah Sony should just make it super easy for people to pirate games and then the game system would do really well! And you could put tons of porn on an UMD! Think of the possibilities!
Oh wait, they already included a MemoryStick slot which can use 2GB cards. I can put my porn on an overpriced MemoryStick, Stick it in my PSP, and then Stick my *ahem* in my hand. In the end, Sony shoves their Stick up my ass and everyone is happy (especially my anus which now has a rootkit installed)
This kind of reminds me of the whole Shenmue thing. When are we going to see Shenmue 15 as promised? Ryo needs to find "that man" he's been looking for.
You can no more prove the existence of your god than I can disprove it. So what's the point?
-- An atheist.
Wouldn't this make you an agnostic?
...welcome our new acid-swallowing, skeleton-challeneged, bitch-slappin' miniature overlords!
I've been using it as my primary platform for four years, at which point i decided that the desktop would never be polished enough. But i still use Linux most of the time, remotly, and in fact my work is something like maybe 50% development 50% Linux admin.
Wait... so you used Linux for four years and only then finally decided the desktop would never be polished enough? How is this so, with increased reliability, ease of use, and yes, even polish being added every year?
Dude if i took the time to write explorer.exe it's because i'm not talking about internet explorer, but about explorer.exe . The Windows's shell and window manager, that is.
My bad. Let me just repost what I had said earlier:
I will agree, explorer does suck. But why did it take them this long to finally rewrite it? Knowing Microsoft and their coding practices, there will still be many bugs and just as many security holes as before. M$ has not been known for releasing stable / bug free / secure software. Now maybe they will prove me wrong, but honestly I don't care because I already have a stable and secure GUI. No need for me to try out a commercial product that comes bundled with a horrible OS when I have an OSS alternative that is much better and costs nothing.
And No, Windows box do not "crash ALL the time". It's just that you're so sure of it that you've never taken the time to understand how Windows works, and you're probably using it in totally stupid ways. That's what makes me laugh about people like you: you can't be bothered to learn a single thing about windows, and yet when something goes wrong you decide that it's the system's fault.
You are awfully certain of my background in computers before you even know me. I've used almost every single Microsoft Product since DOS, including Win 3.1, 95, 98, even ME, 2000, and XP. I know plenty about Windows. The only way you can use Windows is in a stupid way. They make you run in admin to run most games, or install most programs. When something goes wrong, it usually IS the systems fault. It's not like I would go deleting files out of the system32 folder for fun, I knew how to setup Windows and maintain it properly. Unfortunately, even this does not prevent crashes and lockups, and this can be verified with many people I know who run Windows and have it crash on them. However, the larger problem is the spyware / viruses.
If it was Linux, you'd be thinking that you must have done something wrong, because linux IS stable, you've been taughted. But no, you act like the most braindead user you can find, run as admin, and basically act in ways you wouldn't even think of in Linux.
"You've been taughted?" Windows MAKES you run in admin if you want to play games or install most programs. Of course I wouldn't think of running in admin in Linux because I can still play games and do most everything as a normal user, and su when I need to.
I know that, because let me tell you i've had several XP boxes, and I can't remember a *SINGLE* crash on any of them.
Well thats great for you. However, there are millions of people out there that experience crashes in Windows and just seem to live with it because they don't mind a reboot. Why is this considered normal? Why is it "normal" to have to install 3 or 4 anti-spyware programs and an anti-virus checker?
I've have some BSODs but they were all due to bad hardware and the issue was resolved as soon as i changed the hardware. You don't seem to understand that the 9x era is over, and that the NT branch is a totally different system, as different from 9x that linux was different from 9x. But you just look at the UI and think that it's the same thing because you can't see the difference...
I can't see the difference because it's coming from the same company that bought a Quick and Dirty Operating System and sold it to IBM as if they had made it themselves.
I guess if you used HURD with k
Despite the general feeling here, i'm starting to be really interested in vista...
It seems they have fixed almost everything that was wrong with windows. I mean:
Please don't make claims such as this (fixed almost everything) because it makes you sound like a M$ PR guy (or fanboy) which you probably are.
* Explorer rewriten from scratch. This was long, long overdue and that alone would make me interested in Vista. Explorer makes windows looks buggy sometimes but it's only explorer.exe which sucks...
I will agree, explorer does suck. But why did it take them this long to finally rewrite it? Knowing Microsoft and their coding practices, there will still be many bugs and just as many security holes as before. M$ has not been known for releasing stable / bug free / secure software. Now maybe they will prove me wrong, but honestly I don't care because I already have a stable and secure browser in Firefox. No need for me to try out a commercial product that comes bundled with a horrible OS when I have an OSS alternative that is much better and costs nothing.
* Monad. A real shell, which could possibly be much more powerfull than say bash+ standard Unix commands (or cygwin...)
Please expand on this... such as what commands will actually be useful and powerful compared to Linux/Unix where almost anything (even watching videos) can be done through the CLI.
* They're moving the graphics subsystems and all the bloody drivers in userland. That means it will be dead stable, period. 2000 and Xp are already at least as stable as Linux, and maybe more. After that i'm sorry but Linux will compare the same way to Windows that Win95 did to Linux...
How are the drivers "bloody?" Drivers, if you don't know, are what make your computer work. Without them, your computer would be pretty "bloody" useless. 2000 and XP as stable as Linux? Maybe more? Are you ignorant, or being payed off by M$? Windows has numerous problems with memory leaks and Windows boxes crash ALL the time. Maybe not from BSOD anymore, but leave a brand new Windows PC on for a few months, it will crash or get to a point where it runs extremely slow. Linux is known to have uptimes of multiple years, usually the only reason a linux server will go down is a hardware failure! I'd like to hear the same of a Windows box (not to mention the viruses and spyware which can destroy a Windows PC) Comparing Windows 95 to Linux? Back in '95? Yeah, I'm sure Windows was a little more polished, considering Linux had only been around for 4 years and was still a complete hobbyist project at the time...
* A hardware accelerated graphic system, ala Quartz. It should rock even if They'll probably make it look and act totally stupid out of the box, overusing their new power...
Big deal, a hardware rendered GUI. OS-X has been doing it for a while now, and there are projects in Linux for KDE and Gnome to have hardware accelerated graphics. Nothing new here, just MS hopping on the bandwagon again.
And people complain that there is nothing new in Vista, phew... I mean if they manage to do all those things, and do them the right way like they seem to be decided to (for once...) it will be damn worth a new release...
And no, i'm not a microsoft fanboy, i've been using Linux since 97 and I really like it where it shines. But if you have even a little objectivity you can't say the stuff they're putting here is not interesting...
No one is saying MS isn't putting anything new in Vista. We're just saying its similar to Windows ME, which really didn't fix any of the problems inherent in 98 & 95 (in fact made it worse) and just tacked a bunch of eyecandy and useless features that bloat the system. If you've been using Linux since 97, then why aren't you still using Linux? It has far surpassed Windows in terms of functionality and stability. It sounds to me like you "tried out" Linux in 97, were put off by
Either that, or at the time there were no Linux drivers for my graphics card or webcam, there were no decent games for it, and the only available web browser even remotely compatible with most sites was POS Netscape.
It's unfortunate that people purchase hardware without checking into compatibility first. I like to investigate products I purchase to make sure they work with my particular setup. I play many Windows games in Linux, such as TFC, Counter-Strike, World of Warcraft, Guild Wars... etc. All running perfectly smooth with low pings. How do I do this? It's called Cedega. Not to mention there are thousands of fun (and free) homebrew Linux games out there. Is IE any better than "POS" Netscape? Firefox is better than both. What's your point?
Take your own "you couldn't figure out how to use Linux" elitist BS back into your hole.
Just because I'm defending Linux doesn't make me an "elitist." I'm defending it because I'm sick of hearing stupid BS being talked about how Linux sucks so bad when you don't want to take the time to learn how to use it properly.
That's why they're not there.
Weren't we also talking about OSX? Rich people that doen't know what to do with their money, and graphic designers / multimedia artists with lots of money? Millions of them? This wouldn't appeal to the average hacker or spyware writer? Suuuuuure.