I didn't get into this field because I wanted money. I got into it because I loved working on computers and I thought it would be a great way to make a living. Many people in the late 90's would tell me how much they hated computers and were only in it for the money. I hope that attitude doesn't come back. Last thing I want is to work with an overpaid incompetent tech that doesn't know what an inode is or a tech that thinks the Windows command line went away with W2k.
I believe that the salaries stabilized over the last 7-10 years and the wages for people in the Computers field is fair for the employees and employers. I remember the salaries back in the late 90's it was easy to make anywhere between 100,000 to 200,000 a year and some employers would even throw in a BWM as your own company car. I believe the people who love their craft and stayed around after the bubble will gain all the financial benefits from sticking around and will still have the pleasure of working on computers.
On the other hand Admins today are asked to do more with less and sacrifice more time for their employers. If the Admins are making more money today it's because they have earned it.
I think it's a Windows guy pretending to be a Linux guy spreading FUD so IIS looks bad and Apache looks good.
This way it will make the Linux community look as if they are the ones spreading the FUD.
"Sneaky little hobbitses." (Gullum)
Ok, so who will put the clock at midnight?
If doomsday arrives there will be no one to advance the clock.
Or will doomsday only arrive if we put the clock at midnight.
I wonder if there will be a way to reboot the software when it hangs?
Maybe a big reboot button next to the emergency flashers or on the steering wheel next to the cruise control. Maybe, the car will DING, DING, DING and a message will display under your speedometer informing you to perform service. And will the services provided be updated like current WIndows software. I can picture me going down Interstate 40 at 90MPH reading/. and getting my fill of youtube and myspace when a call Microsoft to activate your services popup appears.
However, on the safe side the quote below makes me think that an executive has driven a ford lately and uses Windows on their desktop.
"The software does not, apparently, run the engine or do anything directly connected with transportation."
If it's that important sign it and encrypt it.
If you're a manager and you are sending out financial or personal information plain text you shouldn't have your job.
You should work for the VA.
Defining peace Iran Style - Peace can be achieved by the destruction of Israel and "all" western ideology.
There is only one god. And anyone who does not believe in Ala (and Mohammed as his Prophet) are evil.
And it is probably Bush's fault the world is so messed up.
I read about people trying to defend Iran, Syria, Hamas, Hezbulla simply because of their hatred of the current US president or their hatred for the US. Can't you people see it is simply pure hatred that is driving Iran and Syria to do what they are doing? It is not a Bush thing or a US thing.
There is no negotiation there is no compromise Iran's plans have been laid out in front for everyone to see but some people do not see it or choose not to believe it. Seriously, did your mothers or fathers teach you that if you suck up to someone you get them to do what you want. Maybe we should send Bill Richardson with flowers and chocolates to talk to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Ali Khamenei. Maybe Richard will say. Yup, they want to convert us or kill us.
If the World (and including the UN) allows Iran to get their way get used to getting up for early morning prayers. Punishing your wife for displaying here skin and believe that Jesus is not the real messiah only Mohammed and Ala.
I think we (the world) are dragging our feet because we do not know how to deal with this much evil and deception. And no leaders in the world have the gonads to take on this evil except Bush and Olmert. Yes Virginia, I do believe it is a Jihad. Remember 9/11 it was then officially declared. And some of you heard about it but didn't actually listen.
If you have several product that are new and want to start manufacturing there is somebody sitting there with no physical product but just some stupid idea that they have with no concept on how build. And you have to work around them or pay them to give up the damn patent. These Patent trolls are as big as a pain in the butt as those people at sourceforge who sit on programs but never code.
Imagine a trojan that removes other trojans and various spyware programs then removes itself. And tells you to have a nice day.
-Wow that would be nice.
The phone companies have been recording this information for some time. I believe since 1991-1992. President Bush's phone history is part of phone companies' records as well. The NSA has been collecting this information via a third party since 2001 and this is not the same as having a camera installed in your home. But, it might be the same as having a camera installed down the street on top of a streetlight. Which records events that are out in the public. Just like a phone call to a private company that is recording your phone number. The recording/logging of the number you called is made from outside of your house at a privately owned switching station.
And the president's call to Saudi Arabia is not a call that would be planning the next 9-11 style attack. However, multiple calls to Saudi Arabia to a know terrorist from a middle eastern citizen or arms dealer in the united states might be useful to prevent another disaster. Your regular Sunday call to your mother is of no value to the NSA.
I hate the way the media has twisted this story. Most of the headlines are along the lines of "The NSA has secretly recorded" or "Our government has secretly recorded" and the democrat agenda is "Lets destroy the republican party so we can win in 2008". Seems like all the democrats are jumping on the bandwagon to try to use this story to influence people politically even though there is not much of a story there. "blah blah blah" is all I hear. This story will be dropped by the democrats and focus will be turned into the Presidents immigrant solutions.
So, it's ok for Bellsouth, Qwest, SBC, Verizon, and Comcast or any phone company to actually record some phone conversations and phone number for legal reasons and demographics but, if the government agency like the NSA records only phone numbers for pattern matching and it is done for the benefit of national security it is not.
I am not young enough to know everything. -Oscar Wilde
So if it doesn't work out of the box it's broken? Seems like all the Windows and Macintosh users want instant gratification with no work. And why not the admins are used to clicking on things and so are the users. No knowledge required. Sure, computers should be easy to use and for the most part are. But my god maybe a little bit of reading wouldn't kill you. http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialVideo.ht ml
I think that Linux could be easier if you take the control away and simply guide the user through preset options with no alternatives. Put the user in a complete moronic bliss that every user on Macintosh and Windows is accustomed to. And at the end of clicking on things you can say WoW! it works really really well.
Q: What would it be called to hire a security expert to hack your system? A: An legal invitation that is bound by contract.
If you hire a security firm to audit you network . They have to follow the guidelines that you have put in place. There is a lot of communication between the security firm and the person employing them. Everything is documented everything can be proven. It is not a free for all for one person. And it seems like a lot of these self proclaimed white hat hackers try to do their own penetration testing and that's where they usually screw up. You should not run a buffer overflow simply because you think you can. And after doing it fess up to it. The laws that are being laid down benefit no one and are only duck tape on a bigger problem. Big problems like vendors selling grandpa an insecure systems (linksys, actiontek etc..)and sometime incompetent Admins. The sad part is if you War drive in any city you will come across banks, lawyers offices, debt collection agencies, retail shops and many other business whose wireless networks are wide open. Telling the owners or admins anything might get you a big thank you or might land you in a middle of a lawsuit. The lawsuits happens after they company you informed about their security problem finds out you were test driving their network by scanning, penetrating, attempted overflows etc...
If any machine on the Internet is wide open you should stop there.
From what I understand the U.S Attorney Michael Zweiback is charging you with allegedly accessing and copying student records not simply reporting that the servers were wide open. I do not know all the details of the case or if the news link below is correct but your web site fails to mention the specific detail on why they are charging you with with violating 18 U.S.C. 1030(a)(5)(A)(i)(B)(i) Computer Intrusion.
http://www.10news.com/education/8881082/detail.htm l
--Clip from Link--
Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Zweiback alleged McCarty accessed "information on a number of students." The prosecutor declined to give an exact figure on how many students' records were allegedly accessed.
McCarty copied several applicants' records, prosecutors allege in a criminal complaint unsealed Thursday.
I think that Apple has generated enough revenue from the Ipods that they actually think they can take on Microsoft in their market. I think Apple forgot who bailed them out last time by giving them 150 Million. And Microsoft allowing office X for the Macintosh. Microsoft allows Macintosh an existence in the computer world and not the other way around. The Geeky guy in the suit is the cool guys Daddy. Right Junior.
It seems like at one time a certification was a sure thing that you had a basic understanding. Certifications have evolved from basic understanding and through marketing changed to expert knowledge and now back to a pretty piece of paper that you can hang on your wall. The people who provide the certifications like CISCO or Microsoft made their own certification useless by passing people who cram for the exams. Any employer that hires strictly on certification deserves what they get. Certifications are a volume business. Several hundred dollars for a certificate. Who cares if you have knowledge. The Interview questions and the consensus of the interviewers are vital to hiring a new employee. Employers need to get of their butt's and put more emphasis on the interview process.
I want the Internet to never be down. I want computers to do what I want them to. I want 99.9999999999999999998% uptime not 99.9999998%. I want acces to all printer that I see. I want Administrator acces so I can do anything I want. I want my mouse to carry out the execution of my thoughts. I want to type commands that I makeup and have them work the way I think they should. I want all blame to be on the IT department. I want SUID root on remote shares for all my scripts. I want IT to redo my source when I can't compile. I want IT to remove security - It gets in my way. I want, I want, I want----- etc.... This is not the entire list but this is a start. Maybe my IT department will get off thier butt. My IT department sits around and does nothing but stare at monitors all day and types in meaningless garbage. And always speak gobly gop to try to confuse you. Like IPtables, TCPslashIP, Flamewalls and IDS - blah,blah blah.
Al Gore invented the Internet and he is suppose to be a Baptist -- When he's not talking about Eastern religions. Maybe there should be a Babtist 1001 inventions as well. And while were at at it maybe a scientoligy 1001 inventions just to be fair. And if a person changes religions does the credit for invention go to the current religion or the one he was a member of at the time. Another story can bee 1001 inventions by people with bad hygiene or 1001 inventions by people who were left handed.
You can pick at this book all day and see that the majority of complaints were incompetent users and trivial problems. It is funny! and sad that these developers can't figure out their own working environment. And itis true! -- The users in the book are lusers. Most of these complaints are typical newbie Unix problems. Like path conventions, standard I/O, use of quotations. Not bothering reading the man man page or any man page for that matter. A lot of the solutions were to get the geek to help them. This users/whiners should of taken a intro to Unix class. And I have no problems with making any Unix based system better or easier. I just have a problem with incompetent users shifting blame.
Harder is sometimes a necessity like writing device drivers for custom hardware or adding new custom functionality into the kernel. I would like to see things like this become easier but, anyone writing driver should know the hardware as well as the interaction with the OS.
Why bother this is a bunch of developers whining about the OS. Something developers have always done even before Unix. A lot of the people I work with have engineering degrees and think that since they used Unix in college they are the system experts. The time frame the book was published is kind of old. But the same lame ass users are still doing the very same things today. It is funny to read it and look at all the wrong information in it. Like running the file command and expecting the file extension to tell you the file type. Setting variable -- oh heavens not that. We love buffer overflows in our scripts. Other morons have no basic knowledge of Absolute and relative path conventions or what forward, double, back quotes do. This one is funny to watch unfold #find . -name '*.el' -- Single quotes = literal? This is funny to. -- So you type mv *.m *.c The shell expands this to mv A.m B.m . It expands to that? I can sit here and pick at this all day and point out the dumb examples they use in this paper. However, this gives you a view into the ignorance that System Admins have to deal with on a day-to-day basis. And the misinformation that publication like this put out.
So, the point. You should at a minimum take a basic intro to Unix class or read a book before developing on it. everyone is willing to do this for Windows. And there is such a thing as ignorant users.
I wonder if the author still touts Macintosh now that it has Unix in it. The horror.
Man that is a confusing article. And here I always managed to sum it up as -- Am I working on a system V or BSD varient. And the most important part -- Do I have man pages? But, I usually only work on Irix, HP-UX, SunOS, True64 or Linux.
With hundreds of open Wireless access points residential and business. Add to that PC's sharing out their C:\ drives with no password courtesy of the person who installed it. You don't even have to be l33t script kiddie. You just might be on your neighbors access point strictly by accident. We salute you Mr. linksys admin:admin wireless residential internet service providerrrr.
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I didn't get into this field because I wanted money. I got into it because I loved working on computers and I thought it would be a great way to make a living. Many people in the late 90's would tell me how much they hated computers and were only in it for the money. I hope that attitude doesn't come back. Last thing I want is to work with an overpaid incompetent tech that doesn't know what an inode is or a tech that thinks the Windows command line went away with W2k. I believe that the salaries stabilized over the last 7-10 years and the wages for people in the Computers field is fair for the employees and employers. I remember the salaries back in the late 90's it was easy to make anywhere between 100,000 to 200,000 a year and some employers would even throw in a BWM as your own company car. I believe the people who love their craft and stayed around after the bubble will gain all the financial benefits from sticking around and will still have the pleasure of working on computers. On the other hand Admins today are asked to do more with less and sacrifice more time for their employers. If the Admins are making more money today it's because they have earned it.
I think it's a Windows guy pretending to be a Linux guy spreading FUD so IIS looks bad and Apache looks good. This way it will make the Linux community look as if they are the ones spreading the FUD. "Sneaky little hobbitses." (Gullum)
Ok, so who will put the clock at midnight? If doomsday arrives there will be no one to advance the clock. Or will doomsday only arrive if we put the clock at midnight.
I wonder if there will be a way to reboot the software when it hangs? Maybe a big reboot button next to the emergency flashers or on the steering wheel next to the cruise control. Maybe, the car will DING, DING, DING and a message will display under your speedometer informing you to perform service. And will the services provided be updated like current WIndows software. I can picture me going down Interstate 40 at 90MPH reading /. and getting my fill of youtube and myspace when a call Microsoft to activate your services popup appears.
However, on the safe side the quote below makes me think that an executive has driven a ford lately and uses Windows on their desktop.
"The software does not, apparently, run the engine or do anything directly connected with transportation."
If it's that important sign it and encrypt it. If you're a manager and you are sending out financial or personal information plain text you shouldn't have your job. You should work for the VA.
Ok.
--- my machine is crashing less now --
Defining peace Iran Style - Peace can be achieved by the destruction of Israel and "all" western ideology. There is only one god. And anyone who does not believe in Ala (and Mohammed as his Prophet) are evil. And it is probably Bush's fault the world is so messed up. I read about people trying to defend Iran, Syria, Hamas, Hezbulla simply because of their hatred of the current US president or their hatred for the US. Can't you people see it is simply pure hatred that is driving Iran and Syria to do what they are doing? It is not a Bush thing or a US thing. There is no negotiation there is no compromise Iran's plans have been laid out in front for everyone to see but some people do not see it or choose not to believe it. Seriously, did your mothers or fathers teach you that if you suck up to someone you get them to do what you want. Maybe we should send Bill Richardson with flowers and chocolates to talk to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Ali Khamenei. Maybe Richard will say. Yup, they want to convert us or kill us. If the World (and including the UN) allows Iran to get their way get used to getting up for early morning prayers. Punishing your wife for displaying here skin and believe that Jesus is not the real messiah only Mohammed and Ala. I think we (the world) are dragging our feet because we do not know how to deal with this much evil and deception. And no leaders in the world have the gonads to take on this evil except Bush and Olmert. Yes Virginia, I do believe it is a Jihad. Remember 9/11 it was then officially declared. And some of you heard about it but didn't actually listen.
If you have several product that are new and want to start manufacturing there is somebody sitting there with no physical product but just some stupid idea that they have with no concept on how build. And you have to work around them or pay them to give up the damn patent.
These Patent trolls are as big as a pain in the butt as those people at sourceforge who sit on programs but never code.
Need to remove OSX from this thing and let it breath with Linux.
I wonder how well Linux would run on this machine?
Imagine a trojan that removes other trojans and various
spyware programs then removes itself. And tells you to have
a nice day.
-Wow that would be nice.
Darn it this e911 chip seems to screw up all my evil plans.
http://www.fcc.gov/911/enhanced/
And the president's call to Saudi Arabia is not a call that would be planning the next 9-11 style attack. However, multiple calls to Saudi Arabia to a know terrorist from a middle eastern citizen or arms dealer in the united states might be useful to prevent another disaster. Your regular Sunday call to your mother is of no value to the NSA.
I hate the way the media has twisted this story. Most of the headlines are along the lines of "The NSA has secretly recorded" or "Our government has secretly recorded" and the democrat agenda is "Lets destroy the republican party so we can win in 2008". Seems like all the democrats are jumping on the bandwagon to try to use this story to influence people politically even though there is not much of a story there. "blah blah blah" is all I hear. This story will be dropped by the democrats and focus will be turned into the Presidents immigrant solutions.
I authorized the National Security Agency to intercept the international communications of people with known links to al Qaeda and related terrorist organizations.0 060511-1.html
-President Bush
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/05/2
"then they naturally wouldn't care if someone published THEIR private AND professional phone call logs."
The President and his Lackeys phone records are being recorded by companies like Bell south, Qwest etc. and naturally by the NSA.
No one is publicly publishing anything here.
Get real -
But if you really need to call the president here:
Comments: 202-456-1111
Switchboard: 202-456-1414
What that's you say, you don't want to? Why? Do you have something to hide?
So, it's ok for Bellsouth, Qwest, SBC, Verizon, and Comcast or any phone company to actually record some phone conversations and phone number for legal reasons and demographics but, if the government agency like the NSA records only phone numbers for pattern matching and it is done for the benefit of national security it is not.
I am not young enough to know everything.
-Oscar Wilde
So if it doesn't work out of the box it's broken?t ml
Seems like all the Windows and Macintosh users want instant gratification with no work. And why not the admins are used to clicking on things and so are the users. No knowledge required.
Sure, computers should be easy to use and for the most part are. But my god maybe a little bit of reading wouldn't kill you.
http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialVideo.h
I think that Linux could be easier if you take the control away and simply guide the user through preset options with no alternatives. Put the user in a complete moronic bliss that every user on Macintosh and Windows is accustomed to. And at the end of clicking on things you can say WoW! it works really really well.
Q: What would it be called to hire a security expert to hack your system?
A: An legal invitation that is bound by contract.
If you hire a security firm to audit you network .
They have to follow the guidelines that you have put in place.
There is a lot of communication between the security firm and the person employing them.
Everything is documented everything can be proven.
It is not a free for all for one person.
And it seems like a lot of these self proclaimed white hat hackers try to do their own penetration testing and that's where they usually screw up. You should not run a buffer overflow simply because you think you can. And after doing it fess up to it.
The laws that are being laid down benefit no one and are only duck tape on a bigger problem. Big problems like vendors selling grandpa an insecure systems (linksys, actiontek etc..)and sometime incompetent Admins. The sad part is if you War drive in any city you will come across banks, lawyers offices, debt collection agencies, retail shops and many other business whose wireless networks are wide open. Telling the owners or admins anything might get you a big thank you or might land you in a middle of a lawsuit. The lawsuits happens after they company you informed about their security problem finds out you were test driving their network by scanning, penetrating, attempted overflows etc...
If any machine on the Internet is wide open you should stop there. From what I understand the U.S Attorney Michael Zweiback is charging you with allegedly accessing and copying student records not simply reporting that the servers were wide open. I do not know all the details of the case or if the news link below is correct but your web site fails to mention the specific detail on why they are charging you with with violating 18 U.S.C. 1030(a)(5)(A)(i)(B)(i) Computer Intrusion. http://www.10news.com/education/8881082/detail.htm l
--Clip from Link--
Assistant U.S. Attorney Michael Zweiback alleged McCarty accessed "information on a number of students." The prosecutor declined to give an exact figure on how many students' records were allegedly accessed.
McCarty copied several applicants' records, prosecutors allege in a criminal complaint unsealed Thursday.
I think that Apple has generated enough revenue from the Ipods that they actually think they can take on Microsoft in their market.
I think Apple forgot who bailed them out last time by giving them 150 Million. And Microsoft allowing office X for the Macintosh. Microsoft allows Macintosh an existence in the computer world and not the other way around. The Geeky guy in the suit is the cool guys Daddy.
Right Junior.
It seems like at one time a certification was a sure thing that you had a basic understanding. Certifications have evolved from basic understanding and through marketing changed to expert knowledge and now back to a pretty piece of paper that you can hang on your wall. The people who provide the certifications like CISCO or Microsoft made their own certification useless by passing people who cram for the exams. Any employer that hires strictly on certification deserves what they get. Certifications are a volume business. Several hundred dollars for a certificate. Who cares if you have knowledge. The Interview questions and the consensus of the interviewers are vital to hiring a new employee. Employers need to get of their butt's and put more emphasis on the interview process.
Ok I'll bite onto this Troll bait.
I want the Internet to never be down.
I want computers to do what I want them to.
I want 99.9999999999999999998% uptime not 99.9999998%.
I want acces to all printer that I see.
I want Administrator acces so I can do anything I want.
I want my mouse to carry out the execution of my thoughts.
I want to type commands that I makeup and have them work the way I think they should.
I want all blame to be on the IT department.
I want SUID root on remote shares for all my scripts.
I want IT to redo my source when I can't compile.
I want IT to remove security - It gets in my way.
I want, I want, I want----- etc....
This is not the entire list but this is a start.
Maybe my IT department will get off thier butt.
My IT department sits around and does nothing but stare at monitors all day and types in meaningless garbage.
And always speak gobly gop to try to confuse you. Like IPtables, TCPslashIP, Flamewalls and IDS - blah,blah blah.
Amen Brother.
You are correct 100%.
Al Gore invented the Internet and he is suppose to be a Baptist -- When he's not talking about Eastern religions.
Maybe there should be a Babtist 1001 inventions as well.
And while were at at it maybe a scientoligy 1001 inventions just to be fair.
And if a person changes religions does the credit for invention go to the current religion or the one he was a member of at the time.
Another story can bee 1001 inventions by people with bad hygiene or 1001 inventions by people who were left handed.
You can pick at this book all day and see that the majority of complaints were incompetent users and trivial problems.
It is funny! and sad that these developers can't figure out their own working environment.
And itis true! -- The users in the book are lusers.
Most of these complaints are typical newbie Unix problems. Like path conventions, standard I/O, use of quotations. Not bothering reading the man man page or any man page for that matter.
A lot of the solutions were to get the geek to help them.
This users/whiners should of taken a intro to Unix class.
And I have no problems with making any Unix based system better or easier.
I just have a problem with incompetent users shifting blame.
Harder is sometimes a necessity like writing device drivers for custom hardware or adding new custom functionality into the kernel. I would like to see things like this become easier but, anyone writing driver should know the hardware as well as the interaction with the OS.
Why bother this is a bunch of developers whining about the OS.
Something developers have always done even before Unix.
A lot of the people I work with have engineering degrees and think that since they used Unix in college they are the system experts.
The time frame the book was published is kind of old.
But the same lame ass users are still doing the very same things today.
It is funny to read it and look at all the wrong information in it.
Like running the file command and expecting the file extension to tell you the file type.
Setting variable -- oh heavens not that. We love buffer overflows in our scripts.
Other morons have no basic knowledge of Absolute and relative path conventions or what forward, double, back quotes do.
This one is funny to watch unfold #find . -name '*.el' -- Single quotes = literal?
This is funny to. -- So you type mv *.m *.c The shell expands this to mv A.m B.m . It expands to that?
I can sit here and pick at this all day and point out the dumb examples they use in this paper.
However, this gives you a view into the ignorance that System Admins have to deal with on a day-to-day basis. And the misinformation that publication like this put out.
So, the point.
You should at a minimum take a basic intro to Unix class or read a book before developing on it.
everyone is willing to do this for Windows.
And there is such a thing as ignorant users.
I wonder if the author still touts Macintosh now that it has Unix in it.
The horror.
Man that is a confusing article. And here I always managed to sum it up as --
Am I working on a system V or BSD varient.
And the most important part -- Do I have man pages?
But, I usually only work on Irix, HP-UX, SunOS, True64 or Linux.
With hundreds of open Wireless access points residential and business. Add to that PC's sharing out their C:\ drives with no password courtesy of the person who installed it. You don't even have to be l33t script kiddie. You just might be on your neighbors access point strictly by accident.
We salute you Mr. linksys admin:admin wireless residential internet service providerrrr.