I used to think this way as well. Although, I had a virus scanner installed for scanning downloads, I did not have it actively scanning. Turns out my thinking was as flawed as yours. The problem is that with one vulnerability in your web browser or a browser plugin, malicious code can be executed and that code may run a bunch of detectable viruses. This exact problem happened to me when I was surfing the internet checking out some information on a game I was interested in. Randomly out of nowhere my computer started crawling and upon loading task manager I saw tons of processes spawning. (I shut down promptly and fixed using another computer.) After all was said and done it turned out whatever the exploit was had installed a bunch of different viruses. It was a very interesting attack that I had never expected, just as you have not.
This of course assumes that you browse the internet, which I assume you do.
The part of the summary that the grandparent probably meant you missed was this: "But it's not good if they can extract the HD and get at the data some other way. "
Remote wipe does no good if the hard drive isn't in the machine.
I thought non-profits could have employees who could receive pay, but the organization still keeps its non-profit status. That could of course be abused, so how is it determined whether something is employee compensation vs profit dispersal?
I think there are a lot more people from Montana on slashdot than you know. We have nothing better to do!:P I hail from Columbia Falls, MT. I'm close enough that I can find out the real identity of the Anonymous Coward grandparent post by driving 15 minutes to Safeway.:P (If I didn't want to make a call.:P) Will I do it.. No.:P
Ah, but most people don't read email using a client, they use a browser and a html frontend provided by their service (gmail, yahoo, msn) in which case the browser will run javascript. Javascript should be stripped by gmail, yahoo, msn, and basically all web clients. So the browser shouldn't run it at all. (Unless there is a bug in the web client or maybe a setting?) That's basically Web 101: Don't allow untrusted external code to be ran.
I'll add it here so you don't have to go and read it:
I think this is false. I sent a hard drive to them and they sent it back (and made me $100 poorer) and told me they couldn't recover anything.
The story of the drive: I had my computer (tower) at a party in college and one of the sides was off. I also had one of my storage (not boot) hard drives (which contained various art, pictures, and other valuable stuff to me) laying on the bottom of the 'puter. A buddy came flying out of a door, hit my hand which contained my beer and the beer went flying into the case and all over my hard drive. Needless to say I was pretty well "gone" at that point and toweled the inside/drive off, but left it running. At that point my computer was the party machine pumping loud music and it couldn't be stopped.:P Anyhow, let's skip to the next morning where I go and power down the computer and check out the drive. Well the chips on the controller card were fried. (Physically melted.):(
So the moral of the story is that if you want to make your data unrecoverable, have a party. Space shuttle explosions will not do the trick. Oh, and backups are good.:) And probably about 20 other morals too.:P
Needless to say, I sort of hope that one day I will find a company that can recover the data, because if they can recover a hard drive from a space shuttle explosion, you'd think a little beer would be nothing.:P
See my previous post on Ontrack.
They can recover data from space shuttles, but not from beer. Unless you have an exploding space shuttle I wouldn't be too sure they can get the data.:P
I actually tried this method. However, the drive was a few years old already and it was another year or two before I found something on ebay that was the identical drive. However, the firmware versions on the controller cards were different, so that may have been why it didn't work.
I think the only way to not have Ontrack recover a drive is to literally melt the platters. I think this is false. I sent a hard drive to them and they sent it back (and made me $100 poorer) and told me they couldn't recover anything.
The story of the drive: I had my computer (tower) at a party in college and one of the sides was off. I also had one of my storage (not boot) hard drives (which contained various art, pictures, and other valuable stuff to me) laying on the bottom of the 'puter. A buddy came flying out of a door, hit my hand which contained my beer and the beer went flying into the case and all over my hard drive. Needless to say I was pretty well "gone" at that point and toweled the inside/drive off, but left it running. At that point my computer was the party machine pumping loud music and it couldn't be stopped.:P Anyhow, let's skip to the next morning where I go and power down the computer and check out the drive. Well the chips on the controller card were fried. (Physically melted.):(
So the moral of the story is that if you want to make your data unrecoverable, have a party. Space shuttle explosions will not do the trick. Oh, and backups are good.:) And probably about 20 other morals too.:P
Needless to say, I sort of hope that one day I will find a company that can recover the data, because if they can recover a hard drive from a space shuttle explosion, you'd think a little beer would be nothing.:P
I know people will say, "Well, we'll encrypt the message", but when my phone is a man in the middle, good luck transfering the key without me finding a way to get it.
You wouldn't use a single key for this. You'd use public/private keys. It doesn't matter if you're in the middle using public/private keys. An easy example is https which is ssl over http. There are plenty of points that are traveled through, but it's always encrypted.
Whoops. 4 hours of sleep does that to me.;) I should've posted as AC too, but too late now.
Here ya go:;)
While I can respect his point about the issue being a legal one rather than a free speech issue, I would argue that they took the matter too far. It's one thing to revoke the key, then prosecute the original crackers under the DMCA. (As distasteful as that is.) But once the information is in the public realm, it effectively becomes a lost "trade secret".
The DMCA may not recognize encryption keys as trade secrets, but that's all they are. Once the secret is lost, you cannot recover it. You simply have to move on and extract any damages from the party that disclosed the secret in the first place.
As Mr. Ayers stated, the key was already revoked. If they hadn't tried to put the genie back in the bottle, they wouldn't now have a several-million member strong community of talented and bright individuals trying to crack HD-DVD just to spite them.
While I can respect his point about the issue being a legal one rather than a free speech issue, I would argue that they took the matter too far. It's one thing to revoke the key, then prosecute the original crackers under the DMCA. (As distasteful as that is.) But once the information is in the public realm, it effectively becomes a lost "trade secret".
Having a bigger brain does not necessarily equal smarter. That said, many people don't understand that, so you might still be right about their careers.;) Until I hear 'the extra brain mass seems to enhance intelligence' I'll just accept this as more brain tissue and not a sign of intelligence.
I've been reading about holodiscs since about 1998. Back then they were going to get up to sizes like 500gb and such. Guess how many I've seen on the consumer market. 0. This may be of use to a corporation, if it finally comes out, but us consumers will not probably see this for a long time. Even the wikipedia article you point to says as much.
Now for the weird part, who are these "lifestyle" models they have photoed for the browser's new help and information? The Features shows two girls, looking like they are college crack whores gotten at the 9.0 release party's rave.:) Just some thought here, maybe Opera could actually consult a professional modeling agency for its photo shoots.
I think you need a girlfriend if you're focusing on the girls in a header. They look like normal girls to me. Way to go for being an ass. Here's your gold star: (*)
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I think you guys are missing the original poster's point. I think he is using the standard "right tool for the right job" line. He is saying that the db system shouldn't be an interpreted language since performance is very important there. That is the one system you probably wouldn't want to be in PHP. (Disclaimer: I'm just clarifying what I guess to be their point.)
BTW: I use Perl with Postgres, and yes, I wouldn't want Postgres to be wrote in Perl or PHP. I do, however, love using Perl for most everything else.
They might be using a pre-existing library/module that supports XLS, but not ODF currently. XLS support has been around for a long time and is stable while ODF is relatively new. (And possibly unstable.)
It can't be too surprising...besides, is 50 MHz really that large a discrepancy?
I think it is a big problem, since many people check out reviews and tend to pick the items with the highest benchmarks. A 10% advantage may be just the advantage to put you ahead of the pack and get more sales when your product may actually be inferior.
I'm with you! I watch a decent amount of anime, and somehow I feel myself getting stupider with the dubbed english versions. The original Japanese is usually much higher quality.
My guess is that problems comes from low English budgets combined with the thought that anime = cartoons and cartoons are for kids.
You might as well be cheating if you're exploiting an in-game bug. Or was this meant to be part of the game? "Bag of infinite gold" or "Money Tree/Shrub"
Mods, this is not funny, this joke is old and tired and I'm not even sure this error actually occurs anymore.
I don't know how you got marked Troll.:( I completely agree with you, I've seen this tired old joke about 1,000 times at the top, and it's NOT funny.:( Somehow it always works out that I lose my mod points the day before I see something that actually needs modding. In this case I would mod the original down and your post up, because it most certainly is not a troll in my opinion. Although you could've at least backed it up with a username.
Anyhow thanks for the bandwidth. I downloaded the game to give it a try. Also, the site looks like it doesn't suck, so I'm going to bookmark it to come back to later this weekend and check out some of the games. I like the layout you are using on the front page which makes it easy to quickly discern whether I want to check out a game/movie/patch or not.
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I used to think this way as well. Although, I had a virus scanner installed for scanning downloads, I did not have it actively scanning. Turns out my thinking was as flawed as yours. The problem is that with one vulnerability in your web browser or a browser plugin, malicious code can be executed and that code may run a bunch of detectable viruses. This exact problem happened to me when I was surfing the internet checking out some information on a game I was interested in. Randomly out of nowhere my computer started crawling and upon loading task manager I saw tons of processes spawning. (I shut down promptly and fixed using another computer.) After all was said and done it turned out whatever the exploit was had installed a bunch of different viruses. It was a very interesting attack that I had never expected, just as you have not.
This of course assumes that you browse the internet, which I assume you do.
The part of the summary that the grandparent probably meant you missed was this: "But it's not good if they can extract the HD and get at the data some other way. "
Remote wipe does no good if the hard drive isn't in the machine.
I thought non-profits could have employees who could receive pay, but the organization still keeps its non-profit status. That could of course be abused, so how is it determined whether something is employee compensation vs profit dispersal?
I can think of a couple of purposes for visiting space:
1) Eventual redundancy of our civilization by creating colonies off-world. Keeping all our eggs in one basket is a little dangerous.
2) Mining the resources of the moon or planets.
3) Although, this is a long way away: eventually having more room for our expanding population would be nice.
Both of those will require pretty decent leaps in technology before they're feasible, but with a $0 budget you wouldn't get very far.
Sounds like the spirit mode in Soul Reaver to me.
I think there are a lot more people from Montana on slashdot than you know. We have nothing better to do! :P I hail from Columbia Falls, MT. I'm close enough that I can find out the real identity of the Anonymous Coward grandparent post by driving 15 minutes to Safeway. :P (If I didn't want to make a call. :P) Will I do it.. No. :P
Here is my previous post on the subject in the Ontrack Columbia Article.
I'll add it here so you don't have to go and read it:
I think this is false. I sent a hard drive to them and they sent it back (and made me $100 poorer) and told me they couldn't recover anything.
The story of the drive: I had my computer (tower) at a party in college and one of the sides was off. I also had one of my storage (not boot) hard drives (which contained various art, pictures, and other valuable stuff to me) laying on the bottom of the 'puter. A buddy came flying out of a door, hit my hand which contained my beer and the beer went flying into the case and all over my hard drive. Needless to say I was pretty well "gone" at that point and toweled the inside/drive off, but left it running. At that point my computer was the party machine pumping loud music and it couldn't be stopped.
So the moral of the story is that if you want to make your data unrecoverable, have a party. Space shuttle explosions will not do the trick. Oh, and backups are good.
Needless to say, I sort of hope that one day I will find a company that can recover the data, because if they can recover a hard drive from a space shuttle explosion, you'd think a little beer would be nothing.
See my previous post on Ontrack. :P
They can recover data from space shuttles, but not from beer. Unless you have an exploding space shuttle I wouldn't be too sure they can get the data.
I actually tried this method. However, the drive was a few years old already and it was another year or two before I found something on ebay that was the identical drive. However, the firmware versions on the controller cards were different, so that may have been why it didn't work.
The story of the drive: I had my computer (tower) at a party in college and one of the sides was off. I also had one of my storage (not boot) hard drives (which contained various art, pictures, and other valuable stuff to me) laying on the bottom of the 'puter. A buddy came flying out of a door, hit my hand which contained my beer and the beer went flying into the case and all over my hard drive. Needless to say I was pretty well "gone" at that point and toweled the inside/drive off, but left it running. At that point my computer was the party machine pumping loud music and it couldn't be stopped.
So the moral of the story is that if you want to make your data unrecoverable, have a party. Space shuttle explosions will not do the trick. Oh, and backups are good.
Needless to say, I sort of hope that one day I will find a company that can recover the data, because if they can recover a hard drive from a space shuttle explosion, you'd think a little beer would be nothing.
Read about public key crypto here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public-key_cryptography
Whoops. 4 hours of sleep does that to me. ;) I should've posted as AC too, but too late now.
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Here ya go:
While I can respect his point about the issue being a legal one rather than a free speech issue, I would argue that they took the matter too far. It's one thing to revoke the key, then prosecute the original crackers under the DMCA. (As distasteful as that is.) But once the information is in the public realm, it effectively becomes a lost "trade secret".
The DMCA may not recognize encryption keys as trade secrets, but that's all they are. Once the secret is lost, you cannot recover it. You simply have to move on and extract any damages from the party that disclosed the secret in the first place.
As Mr. Ayers stated, the key was already revoked. If they hadn't tried to put the genie back in the bottle, they wouldn't now have a several-million member strong community of talented and bright individuals trying to crack HD-DVD just to spite them.
Here's the translation for the lazy:
While I can respect his point about the issue being a legal one rather than a free speech issue, I would argue that they took the matter too far. It's one thing to revoke the key, then prosecute the original crackers under the DMCA. (As distasteful as that is.) But once the information is in the public realm, it effectively becomes a lost "trade secret".
I liked it better here:
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http://www.attrition.org/postal/z/033/0871.html
Article giving details here:
http://www.networkworld.com/community/?q=node/999
Having a bigger brain does not necessarily equal smarter. That said, many people don't understand that, so you might still be right about their careers. ;) Until I hear 'the extra brain mass seems to enhance intelligence' I'll just accept this as more brain tissue and not a sign of intelligence.
I've been reading about holodiscs since about 1998. Back then they were going to get up to sizes like 500gb and such. Guess how many I've seen on the consumer market. 0. This may be of use to a corporation, if it finally comes out, but us consumers will not probably see this for a long time. Even the wikipedia article you point to says as much.
I think you guys are missing the original poster's point. I think he is using the standard "right tool for the right job" line. He is saying that the db system shouldn't be an interpreted language since performance is very important there. That is the one system you probably wouldn't want to be in PHP. (Disclaimer: I'm just clarifying what I guess to be their point.)
BTW: I use Perl with Postgres, and yes, I wouldn't want Postgres to be wrote in Perl or PHP. I do, however, love using Perl for most everything else.
They might be using a pre-existing library/module that supports XLS, but not ODF currently. XLS support has been around for a long time and is stable while ODF is relatively new. (And possibly unstable.)
I'm with you! I watch a decent amount of anime, and somehow I feel myself getting stupider with the dubbed english versions. The original Japanese is usually much higher quality.
My guess is that problems comes from low English budgets combined with the thought that anime = cartoons and cartoons are for kids.
You might as well be cheating if you're exploiting an in-game bug. Or was this meant to be part of the game? "Bag of infinite gold" or "Money Tree/Shrub"
LOL, that'd be funny! ;)
Anyhow thanks for the bandwidth. I downloaded the game to give it a try. Also, the site looks like it doesn't suck, so I'm going to bookmark it to come back to later this weekend and check out some of the games. I like the layout you are using on the front page which makes it easy to quickly discern whether I want to check out a game/movie/patch or not.