You can use Apple itself for that. There are somewhat used machines at Apple's own online store - find the red "SAVE" ribbon in the lower right side of the page. I've ordered a Powerbook and an iPod from there - both times, I save a nice amount of money, and the products don't look used at all.
If you're looking for something actually older that'll cost far below new, you can always check macofalltrades.com.
Yes, yes. As much as I love OS X, it's amazing how much slower it can be than OS 9. I wish my Powerbook could boot it - I'd actually use it at times. (Although I wouldn't appreciate the slow multitasking performace...)
Oh, and I recognized this article as a dupe within seconds, yet CowboyNeal couldn't at all? Ouch.
A bit embarrassing I'm sure, but when GTA3 came out, my main machine was a Pentium 3/500 with 256MB RAM, and a Rage Pro Turbo AGP 2x with 8MB VRAM. I had to go out the next day and buy a 32MB Radeon 7000 with what little I had...and I had to get the PCI version, because the machine was a Compaq with a strange form factor for the AGP slot. (I got it used for $245. It was a hell of a deal). And even then, the game only ran at around 10fps. Despite that, I managed to finish the game. No idea how.
The machine is currently my brother's non-gaming Photoshop/Internet computer, and my current desktop plays GTA3 at 45-70fps even in Wine:D
I've got a pair of these myself. They block very little noise, and the open back actually lets other people know what you're playing - a "feature" I myself aren't very fond of. But for $76 shipped (www.headphone.com), you can't beat the sound quality, and the ear pads are very comfortable (the headband is what gets you). They are a little big overall, but that's only a problem because I have to fit them in a school backpack. Actual adults don't have to worry about that.;)
I consider Tetris the best game ever created, and the original Mac version the best version of it. (I usually get really picky about the physics, and that version gets it perfect.) It's the game that never gets old, and has the simplest concept (next to Pong).
As for Quake 1...I first played it in 1997 on my Windows 95, Pentium 1 computer. I've since played it at some point on every computer I've owned since then. I don't know what it is, but I have yet to find a finer FPS, especially one to replay so much. Perhaps it's the complete lack of scripted events mixed with the oldest-considered realistic graphics and atmosphere...but whatever it is, I can't get enough.
I also have a soft spot for Novastorm, a somewhat mediocre Playstation (1995) sci-fi blaster game. Despite its flaws, I have to play it every now and then, for the primitive charm.
The reason is because you sit closer to a laptop display than a desktop one. Or at least that's my experience. For example, my laptop is 12" 1024x768, and when I sit at a desktop 15" 1024x768, I don't notice a size difference.
You can block ads in Opera using the filter.ini file. Just put in URLs, wildcards allowed, and tada! No more ads. Not as elegant as Firefox AdBlock, but it works much the same.
Yes, my beloved Tetris. Though, I'm very picky about what version I play. I don't like ones without art, ones with the "slow drop" mode with holding down the drop key, and I only like the JKL-space controls. That leaves me to the original Spectrum Holobyte versions, which, luckily, run on my Powerbook.:)
OS 9 may seem fast, but it really isn't when you factor in the whole cooperative multitasking thing in. Switching between apps is incredibly slow. Admittedly, OS 9 is a lot smaller and more elegant than OS X in interface. The Classic System Folder on my PowerBook is 166MB...the 10.4 one is 1.83GB.
Yes, the G4 (as sold by Apple) bus is 167MHz, and has not changed since 2003. You can check System Profiler (click More Info in Apple Menu > About This Mac). Freescale has G4s mostly ready at 200MHz (same socket drop-in replacement) and 667MHz (new socket, dual core capable). Personally, I would've liked to see Apple sell those, but alas.
As for performance anyway, I have a PowerBook 1.5GHz with 167MHz bus, and the computer isn't really slow; RAM affects me more, most of the time. But the bottleneck is very real.
To actually reply, these wouldn't be faster than the G4 if the G4 had a decent bus speed. But it's stuck at 167MHz. Double that, and G4 performance would go up almost as much, I bet.
What are you talking about? My 12" PowerBook gets around 4 hours on low brightness, usually closer to 3 1/2 hours. I love the thing, but I won't pretend Apple's "5 hours" claim is true.
The question was, "How long will it take for the free software community to come up with something like this?" Judging by your response, the answer is "16 years with no 1.0 release in sight."
Which really disappoints me, because I think the HURD would be a great system to have around if it got enough developer attention to actually be released.
Printer drivers take up 1.2GB of the OS X x86 install, as can be seen in the screenshot. It probably also includes all the developer tools (this IS a developer release, after all), along with whatever else Apple wanted. The "Essential System Software" section in the article is 2.2GB - but even that's bigger than the PPC Tiger install I did last week.
Uh...that's 24.5W @ 1.25GHz, last I checked. If you're talking about the newer 970FXs, that's 1.6GHz @ 24.5W, tops. The P-M goes much higher (2GHz+) at 27W.
You can buy iPod batteries and install them yourself. They even give you the tools required. Okay, it's not as straightforward as it is on devices such as PSP, cell phones, and such - but it's not too hard. The easiest to do it with are the big iPods, with the mini being somewhat more difficult.
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You can use Apple itself for that. There are somewhat used machines at Apple's own online store - find the red "SAVE" ribbon in the lower right side of the page. I've ordered a Powerbook and an iPod from there - both times, I save a nice amount of money, and the products don't look used at all.
If you're looking for something actually older that'll cost far below new, you can always check macofalltrades.com.
Oh, and I recognized this article as a dupe within seconds, yet CowboyNeal couldn't at all? Ouch.
I did, that's for sure. They *do* have an album out this year.
The machine is currently my brother's non-gaming Photoshop/Internet computer, and my current desktop plays GTA3 at 45-70fps even in Wine
I've got a pair of these myself. They block very little noise, and the open back actually lets other people know what you're playing - a "feature" I myself aren't very fond of. But for $76 shipped (www.headphone.com), you can't beat the sound quality, and the ear pads are very comfortable (the headband is what gets you). They are a little big overall, but that's only a problem because I have to fit them in a school backpack. Actual adults don't have to worry about that. ;)
I consider Tetris the best game ever created, and the original Mac version the best version of it. (I usually get really picky about the physics, and that version gets it perfect.) It's the game that never gets old, and has the simplest concept (next to Pong).
As for Quake 1...I first played it in 1997 on my Windows 95, Pentium 1 computer. I've since played it at some point on every computer I've owned since then. I don't know what it is, but I have yet to find a finer FPS, especially one to replay so much. Perhaps it's the complete lack of scripted events mixed with the oldest-considered realistic graphics and atmosphere...but whatever it is, I can't get enough.
I also have a soft spot for Novastorm, a somewhat mediocre Playstation (1995) sci-fi blaster game. Despite its flaws, I have to play it every now and then, for the primitive charm.
Maybe now I can finally figure out how Tetris ends!
The reason is because you sit closer to a laptop display than a desktop one. Or at least that's my experience. For example, my laptop is 12" 1024x768, and when I sit at a desktop 15" 1024x768, I don't notice a size difference.
Um...that's completely wrong. Apple has called them PowerBooks since the 68k days. The name has nothing to do with PowerPC.
Haha! My pageout number is 968,666. 29 days uptime. I have a lot of widgets and only 512MB.
You can block ads in Opera using the filter.ini file. Just put in URLs, wildcards allowed, and tada! No more ads. Not as elegant as Firefox AdBlock, but it works much the same.
At least AMD tries to base theirs off something tangible.
;)
Yeah, they base it off Intel's GHz rate.
Yes, my beloved Tetris. Though, I'm very picky about what version I play. I don't like ones without art, ones with the "slow drop" mode with holding down the drop key, and I only like the JKL-space controls. That leaves me to the original Spectrum Holobyte versions, which, luckily, run on my Powerbook. :)
OS 9 may seem fast, but it really isn't when you factor in the whole cooperative multitasking thing in. Switching between apps is incredibly slow. Admittedly, OS 9 is a lot smaller and more elegant than OS X in interface. The Classic System Folder on my PowerBook is 166MB...the 10.4 one is 1.83GB.
Yes, the G4 (as sold by Apple) bus is 167MHz, and has not changed since 2003. You can check System Profiler (click More Info in Apple Menu > About This Mac). Freescale has G4s mostly ready at 200MHz (same socket drop-in replacement) and 667MHz (new socket, dual core capable). Personally, I would've liked to see Apple sell those, but alas.
As for performance anyway, I have a PowerBook 1.5GHz with 167MHz bus, and the computer isn't really slow; RAM affects me more, most of the time. But the bottleneck is very real.
To actually reply, these wouldn't be faster than the G4 if the G4 had a decent bus speed. But it's stuck at 167MHz. Double that, and G4 performance would go up almost as much, I bet.
What are you talking about? My 12" PowerBook gets around 4 hours on low brightness, usually closer to 3 1/2 hours. I love the thing, but I won't pretend Apple's "5 hours" claim is true.
Which really disappoints me, because I think the HURD would be a great system to have around if it got enough developer attention to actually be released.
Printer drivers take up 1.2GB of the OS X x86 install, as can be seen in the screenshot. It probably also includes all the developer tools (this IS a developer release, after all), along with whatever else Apple wanted. The "Essential System Software" section in the article is 2.2GB - but even that's bigger than the PPC Tiger install I did last week.
Apple is hoping that Intel chips circa mid-2006 will beat/match AMD.
Apple is selling more computers this year over last year, so those are doing rather well too.
Sorry, try again.
He did? I wasn't aware. XCode supports all those languages.
and in 15-20 years when your umm might say -well ageged-, that your eathernet and wifi controllers choices will make a hillarious laugh.
Um...huh?
And learn to spell. It helps your credibility.
Uh...that's 24.5W @ 1.25GHz, last I checked. If you're talking about the newer 970FXs, that's 1.6GHz @ 24.5W, tops. The P-M goes much higher (2GHz+) at 27W.
You can buy iPod batteries and install them yourself. They even give you the tools required. Okay, it's not as straightforward as it is on devices such as PSP, cell phones, and such - but it's not too hard. The easiest to do it with are the big iPods, with the mini being somewhat more difficult.