Look, the knowledge how to use the force has withered over time and is lost for now. But everybody who has enough midiclorians, is clearly a Jedi. The midiclorians of course can't be measured. But a true Jedi can of course feel the force of anotherone.
It's like the selection of the pope. The holy ghost decides who the next pope will be. It is only known that he will choose among male catholics. So far he always chose a cardinal, which seems kind of strange at first. But since the selection of cardinals is too guided by the holy spirit, it makes perfect sense.
And this is a true pro-science stance. Most here on slashdot believe themselves to be pro science, when in fact they are just for the latest whizbang nerdy, star-treky stuff.
Science is about learning about the world. And in the case of something complex like an organism, the effect of a new substance can only be found out by vigorous testing. Empircal evidence is the only thing that can be refered to in such cases, not rationalizations. This is why all medications go through years of studies with double blind tests, before they are allowed on the market.
Rushing to the latest and gratest without testing is what brought us asbestos and similar once great, now shunned technologies. Especially very small particles can be dangerous, since our body can't get rid of them. The human trachea for example has small hairs which constantly carry particles out such that everything below the glotis remains a sterile enivornment. Particles, which are to small for these hairs to carry out, well they just stay in. This is what allows the development of a smoker's lung or what makes asbestos dangerous.
So, since most of the arguments against the protesters here seems to be the ad hominems of the usual kind, let me in their defence denigrate the militant high-tech-fanboy. All they are really saying is: "Mommy, Mommy, these mean pro-science consumer protectionists want to take my toys away!"
Does apples announcement today mean that your friends computer just all of a sudden stops working?
You have to understand. His friend is probably disappointed, because Apple lied to him about the greatness of the G5. Ordinary consumers wouldn't mind. It's marketing after all. But some Mac zealots believe their consumerism to be an act of revolution and consider the words Steve Jobs to be gospel.
Your main point is that more existing x86 software will be available on OSX either through emulation or recompilation.
Well, the same is true the other side as well. Once OSX applications come in the form of x86 binaries, it will be possible to run them on Linux or Windows.
A rough implementation of Cocoa, the most important part from the application side, already exists through GNUstep. And Cocoa doesn't change as rapidly as the various Windows-APIs. Thus it will be higly likely, that a WINE-like implementation of the Mac OS X API will allow us to run Mac applications on Linux!
GNUStep may arise to be a considerable competitor to KDE, GNOME and even Apple! WHo knows. The coming times will certainly be interesting.
It will also be fun to watch MAC zealots deny and undo all their previos anit-x86 propaganda and pro PPC apolegetics. Mhz myth anyone? Well, Steve Jobs talked about Mhz/Watt already.
3. None of the typical Apple rumors sites seem to have heard anything more on this.
Mac rumor sites not reporting it actually gives a lot of credibility to the claim.
4b. The x86 instruction set would be a pretty significant step BACKWARDS, architecturally. x86-64 fixes this, more or less, but it's AMD whose proven most successful at this, and not Intel. Intel has tried to come out with a way to move beyond x86's limitations, and has consistently fallen back to favouring designs that instead manage to make x86 faster (and it is to their credit that they've managed this for so long).
I emphasized the important part of your quote. Yes, they've managed so far and will manage in the future to trump PPC chips. Your argument is purely technical and geeky. The x86 just works as empirical evidence clearly showed that time and time again. Instruction sets don't matter that much anymore anyway. They are just a way to tell the CPU what to do. They don't dictate the internals of a CPU. To call x86 an architecture is kind of a misnomer.
Nonetheless, the *only* reason to choose straight x86 is its backwards compatability -- which has no value to Apple.
x86 instructions are of variable length. This leads to more compact code and thus a more efficient use of code caches. x86 has rational arguments going fo it.
I don't think Apple is this stupid. But it's one helluva way to build anticipation for an announcement on Monday, and if the result is egg all over CNet's face, well, that would be pretty funny.
Actually it would be business as usual. I highly doubt that this incarnation of an ancient rumor will turn out to be true.
But if it were true, now that would be really entertaining. I would take great pleasure in watching all of the Mac zealots denying all of the previous anti-x86 propaganda they spread and all of their PPC apolegetics. Mhz myth? We never seen no Mhz myth.
Oh, and for those people that only talk about electricity savings, well, why not get rid of your SUV and buy a scooter instead? You'll save a LOT of gas and money (a lot more than swtiching monitors could ever make you save)!
You would have to consider the amount of ressources and energy used in building LCD and CRTs as well. I don't really know which one is more hostile to the environment over its lifetime.
One thing is for sure. As long as I can buy a used 21" CRT for 40 at my second-hand shop around the corner, I'll stick to CRTs over LCDs any time. That's certainly the most environmentally friendly option and also has the greatest bang for my buck.
But let's just shift the geeky arguments aside for a moment. The main reason why LCDs took off, is that you can buy them at the mall and easily take them home right away, even in urban european areas where many don't even have cars and use public transportation. This is why CRTs virtually disappeared from store shelves about two years ago, even though at the time mass-produced CRTs cost a fraction and were way superior on technical grounds and LCDs were nothing but an insult to human eyesight.
Traditional desktop systems are IMHO not that much cheaper to offset their disadvantages, compared to notebooks. When I browse sites like Newegg, I conclude the price premium for notebooks is less than 15 percent, taking the integrated 15-17 inch TFT screen into account.
Desktops are way cheaper in the long run. I haven't bought myself an entirely new desktop for seven years. I incrementally upgraded it many times since then, whenever some components started to be to small, to slow or they lacked features.
I spend a maximum of 250€ per year on my PC and usually have a decent and robust system.
It takes alot of energy and resources to build a new WRT54G. (The amount of used energy cannot be deduced from its price, since we don't know which form of energy and at what price went into the production of said device.) Plus appliences use energy in operation as well. (upto 12W for the WRT54G according to the specs) The difference between the power consumption of a PC and of the appliance matters.
100 Watt 24/7 is furthermore pretty unrealistic for a PC in use as a router or music player. It would have to be extremely misconfigured or running seti@home to draw that much power.
My Linux based DVR draws less, even though it has an MPEG2 decoder and two DVB-s receiver cards and it doesn't run 24/7.
General purpose computers can be adapted to new needs, while you have to throw appliances away and buy a new one, as soon as one single new feature you need isn't supported. On top of that, PCs can do many things at the same time.
So at the end of the day, much speaks for reusing old stuff with Linux.
SuSE isn't based on Red Hat at all. It forked from Slackware way back. And Mandrake forked a long time ago from Red Hat but has changed a lot over time.
The debian based distros on the other hand continue to be based on debian. They are not completely independent forks.
If there were no copyright, then what CherryOS is doing to PearPC would be perfectly fine. Copyright exists in part to prevent just this sort of thing.
If there were no copyright, CherryOS would have no business modell and therefore they would not have plagiarized PearOS in the first place.
If there were no copyright, I could download CherryOS, rebrand it myself and sell it for money.
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I would disagree. If the players are bigger and stronger they will hit the ball harder and run faster, thus making the game more exciting for the spectators.
Could you tell the speed difference with your naked eye?
Even if you could, the field could be reduced to achieve the same visual result, namely a faster game. All balls fly at a parabolic trajectory. A lighter ball, a longer bat or again a smaller field could easily compensate for anything steroids do.
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Not so fast, says Canseco. Steroids in baseball are good. Steroids help players get stronger, and enjoy longer careers.
So? Baseball is a competition. This guy makes it sound like they are actually doing something where the quantity of work matters by itself. If everybody uses steroids, then everybody will run faster. So how are steroids going to improve the sport as a whole?
Same thing about him gaining confidence by using steroids and growth hormone to grow from skinny to grotesque. If everybody does it, we're back to square one.
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Baseball and almost all other sports are about competition. Baseball players are not producing anything of which the actual quantity matters. Canesco claims that steroids are good for baseball because players get stronger, run faster and have longer careers with it. But if everybody does it, everybody is back to square one. There is no true improvement for the sport.
Same thing about him gaining confidence by using steroids and growth hormone to grow from skinny to grotesque. This is again no general solution for those who lack confidence because of their bodies. Increased use of steroids and growth hormone will simply shift the perception of what is skinny.
Re:Good LORD it's got some useless stuff!
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Moon Phase Display?!?!?!?! Who in the hell needs a dynamic MOON PHASE display???
Bensdorp is even worse.
I don't usually eat chocolate. But choclate with a transfair sign is usually great. EZA Mascao Nuß. Yummy.
(Nuß == nut)
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I'm an Austrian. Over here at least, IT is one of these Anglicisms, which doesn't really mean anything specific. You can't study IT over here. We've got Informatik, which is basically the equivalent to Computer Science.
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Project management in turn is a people skills exercise. You have to be very good at dealing with people, understand them, communicate effectively and so on. Women are much better at (unconsciously) manipulating people (especially men, above all geeks) into doing something they want.
I doubt that. Why aren't women then ruling the world?
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How do they define IT in the first place? It seems like an increasingly vague concept to me.
Does writing content for websites count as IT?
There used to be a time when women had the majority. Then, coding was seen as a boring women's thing. Later men realized that it can be fun and drove the women out. Could this be a wave of retirement women?
So you are basically saying that there are few genuine Gnome apps.
No, he's saying that newer GTK+ apps are really Gnome apps. GTK+ has been getting a lot of new features lately.
The parent poster didn't mention this supposed progress in his post at all. I didn't follow GTK+ lately. Can you name the parts of GTK+ which were added recently and would count as fundamental for a desktop environment, but go beyond the scope of a widget set?
True Gnome apps come with a load of dependencies, as well..snip.. Try to install these on a KDE-only system and you'll see.
And on KDE I get the super-mega-huge-takes-eons-to-compile kde-libs as a dependency.
Yes, of course. A desktop environment needs a lot of interaction and commonalities between apps. And this is done by sharing lots of code. Desktop apps are not independent of each other and this is why they have lots of dependencies. I never claimed that KDE does magically without sharing code. I wanted to point out that true GNOME apps, share a lot of code as well and need many libraries to do so, just like comparable KDE apps.
Many KDE apps provide embeddable as KParts for example. What are the equivalents in GNOME and how many apps actually use them?
So you are basically saying that there are few genuine Gnome apps.
And I agree with that. Most so-called Gnome apps are really GTK-apps. Especially the more advanced features like Bonobo are seldomly used.
KDE is different. I see a lot more interoperability and consistency accross the board of KDE-apps. (I may be mistaken about that, but that's my subjective experience)
True Gnome apps come with a load of dependencies, as well. Gnumeric, GnuCash,... Try to install these on a KDE-only system and you'll see.
The question remains how the general public would have decided, if this issue would have gotten engough media coverage.
A couple of motorcyclists special interest groups can't hardly count as representative of public opinion. In fact I would bet that the average european would be in favor of caps on motorcycles. (btw. 100PS = 100HP) Bikers are not exactly popular.
You suspect protection of BMW? Are you kidding? Don't you think that BMW can't easily build >100HP bikes? This makes me especially suspicious. If a corporation goes out of its way and voluntarily abstains from skimming a lucrative market segment, the suspicion arises that maybe, just maybe, this actually may have been an ethical and good choice.
In Austria, the national tv station usually airs the Superbowl for free. Not that anybody is interested in Football over here. Funny, how capitalism works. We don't care about the superbowl, therefore it is worthless over here and this it why we get it for free.
They didn't show this years' infamous superbowl-commercials though. Instead those from last year were shown, because they couldn't get the rights for the new ones.
According to Wikipedia, Opera added tabbed browsing in Version 4 in March 2000.
The changelog of galeon reads:
2000-12-29 Matt Aubury <matt@ookypooky.com>
* src/browser.c
* src/browser_callbacks.c
* src/galeon.h
* src/portal.c
* src/prefs.c
* ui/galeon.glade: VERY early code for tabbed browsing. It doesn't
work right at all yet, but it's a start
NetCaptor was the first browser according to the Wikipedia article.
Funny, you mention DS9 and Voyager. Many fans rejected those two as well. I still liked TNG, but my interest declined with DS9. Voyager had a couple of good specials, but was in general not really exiting. (I enjoyed the episode featuring the two greedy ferengi, who went through worm hole in TNG)
Anyway, I'm quite sure that in a couple of years, we will see the same happening with the next version of StarTrek. Fans will complain about it ruining StarTrek and that it went downhill only after Enterprise.
So why did it start to bore me and why do fans reject newer incarnations of Star Trek? Well it just gets dull over time. There is only a certain set of plots they keep using and that's it. The ship/station/whatever gets into some kind of intergalactical storm/quantum fluctuation. The crew redirects the sodium flow through the flux compensator... problem solved. Things like that.... The life within the Star Trek universe too is not really that exciting. It is a 14-year-old geek's wet dream,... but the worst nightmare of everybody else. There are no emotions, no individuality. There is neither drama nor humor.
The shows would have to grow with the audience, add complexity, character development, food for thought, but they can't and they won't, because after all, a new generation of teenaged geeks want their Star Trek too.
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Look, the knowledge how to use the force has withered over time and is lost for now. But everybody who has enough midiclorians, is clearly a Jedi. The midiclorians of course can't be measured. But a true Jedi can of course feel the force of anotherone.
It's like the selection of the pope. The holy ghost decides who the next pope will be. It is only known that he will choose among male catholics. So far he always chose a cardinal, which seems kind of strange at first. But since the selection of cardinals is too guided by the holy spirit, it makes perfect sense.
Yeah and how are the kids supposed to take notes for themselves?
I hate it, when stupid PR pieces like these are forwarded with no critical comment whatsoever in the mainstream media.
And this is a true pro-science stance. Most here on slashdot believe themselves to be pro science, when in fact they are just for the latest whizbang nerdy, star-treky stuff.
Science is about learning about the world. And in the case of something complex like an organism, the effect of a new substance can only be found out by vigorous testing. Empircal evidence is the only thing that can be refered to in such cases, not rationalizations. This is why all medications go through years of studies with double blind tests, before they are allowed on the market.
Rushing to the latest and gratest without testing is what brought us asbestos and similar once great, now shunned technologies. Especially very small particles can be dangerous, since our body can't get rid of them. The human trachea for example has small hairs which constantly carry particles out such that everything below the glotis remains a sterile enivornment. Particles, which are to small for these hairs to carry out, well they just stay in. This is what allows the development of a smoker's lung or what makes asbestos dangerous.
So, since most of the arguments against the protesters here seems to be the ad hominems of the usual kind, let me in their defence denigrate the militant high-tech-fanboy. All they are really saying is: "Mommy, Mommy, these mean pro-science consumer protectionists want to take my toys away!"
You have to understand. His friend is probably disappointed, because Apple lied to him about the greatness of the G5. Ordinary consumers wouldn't mind. It's marketing after all. But some Mac zealots believe their consumerism to be an act of revolution and consider the words Steve Jobs to be gospel.
Your main point is that more existing x86 software will be available on OSX either through emulation or recompilation.
Well, the same is true the other side as well. Once OSX applications come in the form of x86 binaries, it will be possible to run them on Linux or Windows.
A rough implementation of Cocoa, the most important part from the application side, already exists through GNUstep. And Cocoa doesn't change as rapidly as the various Windows-APIs. Thus it will be higly likely, that a WINE-like implementation of the Mac OS X API will allow us to run Mac applications on Linux!
GNUStep may arise to be a considerable competitor to KDE, GNOME and even Apple! WHo knows. The coming times will certainly be interesting.
It will also be fun to watch MAC zealots deny and undo all their previos anit-x86 propaganda and pro PPC apolegetics. Mhz myth anyone? Well, Steve Jobs talked about Mhz/Watt already.
Mac rumor sites not reporting it actually gives a lot of credibility to the claim.
I emphasized the important part of your quote. Yes, they've managed so far and will manage in the future to trump PPC chips. Your argument is purely technical and geeky. The x86 just works as empirical evidence clearly showed that time and time again. Instruction sets don't matter that much anymore anyway. They are just a way to tell the CPU what to do. They don't dictate the internals of a CPU. To call x86 an architecture is kind of a misnomer.
x86 instructions are of variable length. This leads to more compact code and thus a more efficient use of code caches. x86 has rational arguments going fo it.
Actually it would be business as usual. I highly doubt that this incarnation of an ancient rumor will turn out to be true.
But if it were true, now that would be really entertaining. I would take great pleasure in watching all of the Mac zealots denying all of the previous anti-x86 propaganda they spread and all of their PPC apolegetics. Mhz myth? We never seen no Mhz myth.
One thing is for sure. As long as I can buy a used 21" CRT for 40 at my second-hand shop around the corner, I'll stick to CRTs over LCDs any time. That's certainly the most environmentally friendly option and also has the greatest bang for my buck.
But let's just shift the geeky arguments aside for a moment. The main reason why LCDs took off, is that you can buy them at the mall and easily take them home right away, even in urban european areas where many don't even have cars and use public transportation. This is why CRTs virtually disappeared from store shelves about two years ago, even though at the time mass-produced CRTs cost a fraction and were way superior on technical grounds and LCDs were nothing but an insult to human eyesight.
It takes alot of energy and resources to build a new WRT54G. (The amount of used energy cannot be deduced from its price, since we don't know which form of energy and at what price went into the production of said device.) Plus appliences use energy in operation as well. (upto 12W for the WRT54G according to the specs) The difference between the power consumption of a PC and of the appliance matters.
100 Watt 24/7 is furthermore pretty unrealistic for a PC in use as a router or music player. It would have to be extremely misconfigured or running seti@home to draw that much power.
My Linux based DVR draws less, even though it has an MPEG2 decoder and two DVB-s receiver cards and it doesn't run 24/7.
General purpose computers can be adapted to new needs, while you have to throw appliances away and buy a new one, as soon as one single new feature you need isn't supported. On top of that, PCs can do many things at the same time.
So at the end of the day, much speaks for reusing old stuff with Linux.
SuSE isn't based on Red Hat at all. It forked from Slackware way back. And Mandrake forked a long time ago from Red Hat but has changed a lot over time. The debian based distros on the other hand continue to be based on debian. They are not completely independent forks.
So? Baseball is a competition. This guy makes it sound like they are actually doing something where the quantity of work matters by itself.
If everybody uses steroids, then everybody will run faster. So how are steroids going to improve the sport as a whole?
Same thing about him gaining confidence by using steroids and growth hormone to grow from skinny to grotesque. If everybody does it, we're back to square one.
Baseball and almost all other sports are about competition. Baseball players are not producing anything of which the actual quantity matters. Canesco claims that steroids are good for baseball because players get stronger, run faster and have longer careers with it. But if everybody does it, everybody is back to square one. There is no true improvement for the sport.
Same thing about him gaining confidence by using steroids and growth hormone to grow from skinny to grotesque. This is again no general solution for those who lack confidence because of their bodies. Increased use of steroids and growth hormone will simply shift the perception of what is skinny.
Bensdorp is even worse. I don't usually eat chocolate. But choclate with a transfair sign is usually great. EZA Mascao Nuß. Yummy. (Nuß == nut)
I'm an Austrian. Over here at least, IT is one of these Anglicisms, which doesn't really mean anything specific. You can't study IT over here. We've got Informatik, which is basically the equivalent to Computer Science.
How do they define IT in the first place? It seems like an increasingly vague concept to me.
Does writing content for websites count as IT?
There used to be a time when women had the majority. Then, coding was seen as a boring women's thing. Later men realized that it can be fun and drove the women out. Could this be a wave of retirement women?
The parent poster didn't mention this supposed progress in his post at all. I didn't follow GTK+ lately. Can you name the parts of GTK+ which were added recently and would count as fundamental for a desktop environment, but go beyond the scope of a widget set?
Yes, of course. A desktop environment needs a lot of interaction and commonalities between apps. And this is done by sharing lots of code. Desktop apps are not independent of each other and this is why they have lots of dependencies. I never claimed that KDE does magically without sharing code. I wanted to point out that true GNOME apps, share a lot of code as well and need many libraries to do so, just like comparable KDE apps.
Many KDE apps provide embeddable as KParts for example. What are the equivalents in GNOME and how many apps actually use them?
So you are basically saying that there are few genuine Gnome apps.
... Try to install these on a KDE-only system and you'll see.
And I agree with that. Most so-called Gnome apps are really GTK-apps. Especially the more advanced features like Bonobo are seldomly used.
KDE is different. I see a lot more interoperability and consistency accross the board of KDE-apps. (I may be mistaken about that, but that's my subjective experience)
True Gnome apps come with a load of dependencies, as well. Gnumeric, GnuCash,
The question remains how the general public would have decided, if this issue would have gotten engough media coverage.
A couple of motorcyclists special interest groups can't hardly count as representative of public opinion. In fact I would bet that the average european would be in favor of caps on motorcycles. (btw. 100PS = 100HP) Bikers are not exactly popular.
You suspect protection of BMW? Are you kidding? Don't you think that BMW can't easily build >100HP bikes? This makes me especially suspicious. If a corporation goes out of its way and voluntarily abstains from skimming a lucrative market segment, the suspicion arises that maybe, just maybe, this actually may have been an ethical and good choice.
In Austria, the national tv station usually airs the Superbowl for free. Not that anybody is interested in Football over here. Funny, how capitalism works. We don't care about the superbowl, therefore it is worthless over here and this it why we get it for free. They didn't show this years' infamous superbowl-commercials though. Instead those from last year were shown, because they couldn't get the rights for the new ones.
The changelog of galeon reads:NetCaptor was the first browser according to the Wikipedia article.
Funny, you mention DS9 and Voyager. Many fans rejected those two as well. I still liked TNG, but my interest declined with DS9. Voyager had a couple of good specials, but was in general not really exiting. (I enjoyed the episode featuring the two greedy ferengi, who went through worm hole in TNG)
... problem solved. Things like that.... ... but the worst nightmare of everybody else. There are no emotions, no individuality. There is neither drama nor humor.
Anyway, I'm quite sure that in a couple of years, we will see the same happening with the next version of StarTrek. Fans will complain about it ruining StarTrek and that it went downhill only after Enterprise.
So why did it start to bore me and why do fans reject newer incarnations of Star Trek? Well it just gets dull over time. There is only a certain set of plots they keep using and that's it. The ship/station/whatever gets into some kind of intergalactical storm/quantum fluctuation. The crew redirects the sodium flow through the flux compensator
The life within the Star Trek universe too is not really that exciting. It is a 14-year-old geek's wet dream,
The shows would have to grow with the audience, add complexity, character development, food for thought, but they can't and they won't, because after all, a new generation of teenaged geeks want their Star Trek too.
Boy am I going to loose karma because of this....