I know it's bad. I just wanted to make sure everybody knew the distinction, because it could be even worse.
In Sweden they are going to let the intelligence bureau (FRA) do an automatic live search through all communication that go over the country's borders, including 98% of all the Internet traffic, in the search for terrorists and other threats against the nation.
This law is necessary for all countries which are members of the European Union to implement, because it is a EU directive. Germany are not the only country in EU that will pass this law. Every country in the union are obliged to have their telephone companies and ISPs keep the information for at least six years (I think Sweden are going to recuire the companies to keep the data for at least a year, but I have not followed the debate for the last months).
It is important to point out, however, that it's only the metadata that will be saved. You can see that a person have contacted another person, and probably even where this was (if it's a mobile phone), but you can't see what they have been talking about.
Are you kidding me? Why can't criminals vote? And why are there _any_ sort of restrictions? Aren't everyone humans and part of the country, after all?
I'm from Sweden, where we get a letter a month before the election day with all the information we may need to get our vote counted. We don't have to register at all. If we can't vote on the election day we may even go to a nearby library, post office or embassy and vote there. They start the elections a few weeks before election day.
Communism and democracy is not each others opposites. You can very well have a communist country where you have your right to free speech, where you can choose your leaders and so on.
If it's supposed to be a "free market", why would we grant some people monopolies for something that wouldn't be profitable otherwise?
This isn't a question about "communism vs socialism vs liberalism vs capitalism". I am myself a socialist and think that the society as a whole would benefit a lot from copying, sampling and from using other peoples work as a ground for new inventions.
I was in an argument with pv2b (the one you just called "communist") once, and he was more radical in his opinions than I am. I have a big ideological problem right now because I am a member of the Swedish Pirate Party and at the same time am I worrying about the GPL. He, on the other hand, doesn't care about GPL being useless because everyone will benefit from the copying anyway and he think it is everyones right to build upon a work without having to comply to any artificial restrictions, that "intellectual property" is just nonsense. I would call his opinions liberalism, not communism (remember that you don't take away the original authors right to use his work. You just make a copy of it and build upon it).
Anyone, from whichever end of the political scale, can have opinions about intellectual property, both pro and against.
I don't know about you, but I have never read a book on a computer screen, nor have I had the time to print it out (I wouldn't want to read from thos printouts anyway. A book is much better).
I know this is sort of a bad argument when there's digital paper under development. But then again, there will always be ways to earn money from what people want. You can sell it beforehand and tell your customers that it won't be any new book if they don't pay you. You can sell merchandising (I've seen a few web comics earning their living this way), or you could just trust me when I say that books won't go away any day soon.
Yes, it's kind of slow, especially at peak hours, but it works! They definitly need more servers running so if you have some spare bandwith I think they would love you for setting up a Tor server.
You are right about IT don't doing it's job here. But even if they were more skilled, wouldn't it be hard to block for example Tor running over port 80, or Apache running at home with mod_proxy? Just to find out that someone is using these services is pretty hard if you don't have good log file statistics, and even then it could be a pretty tough job if the students have a dynamic ip address, if they know of new software bypassing the filters and so on.
Do not underestimate the skills of the pupils. I'm 19 years old. My last five or six years in school, between the lessons, has been dedicated to breaking through the filters in the network. Not because I need it but because I can.
There's a shitload of ways to use our network, ranging from the almost unknown, unprotected wireless access point in a small part of the school to setting up that Tor server and client and setting it to use port 80 through the main proxies. We even have an obscure unfiltered proxy (with logging disabled, I've been told) in the library at another school which, for some reason, can be used from any public school in the whole town because we share the same network.
A few years ago I used to maintain an application that anyone could use to get through the filtering, but it was kind of boring. I prefer to test my (and the IT staff's) skills and not actually using my tricks for anything useful.
My point is that it's not always easy to set up one proxy to rule them all when you have pupils interested in computers and networking.
I don't think that the principal should have so much power over the IT staff. IT should do his job: keeping the IT services running. He shouldnät waste his time doing private stuff for the principal.
The media companies win, the network operators win, Thomson wins, and the consumers win
Here in Sweden the kids are the ones choosing the network operator. They are the ones who actually know anything at all about the many operators you can choose from. These kids will surely not pick any ISP which are strongly discouraged by the piracy lobby. In fact, the ISP's that are opposing the media industry is the ones that get the most customers.
The network operator who disagree to use both Thompson's technology and the media companies' content, that operator will be the big winner because it will be promoted by the piracy lobby by word of mouth.
The ISP should not decide what we use our connection for.
I got an SonyEricsson J100i from my mobile service provider for $10 (no hidden fees and no monthly fee) here in Sweden. You can call and text people from it. Simple as that.
No, it's not a joke. The prosecutor compared The Pirate Bureau (a piracy think tank) to Sinn Féin and The Pirate Bay to IRA. That was of course really stupid and he never used that analogy again.
But _did_ use some really terrible comparisons later when he in court compared this case with a car theft in the 80's where the police had to keep the car for a long period of time during investigation. Of course that's just bullshit because they can't copy a car but they can (and do) copy the hard drives for investigation and leave the computers untouched, so they could have returned the computers right away (as was The Pirate Bay's demand).
Yes, but if my ISP won't allow me to connect to the television's website, then the problem wouldn't be on my side. It's the ISP who have blocked my access, and I therefore have no equipment that can receive the material. To receive the TV shows I have to get a new ISP.
If we put it another way: I go to my friend's home and watch his TV, do I have to pay? I have, after all, the equipment (my friend) that is needed to see TV shows. It doesn't matter if he don't let me into his home - I still have to pay because it is possible for him to change his mind later. Right?
There's a similar update of the laws in Sweden. This may very well spread to a lot of countries.
Will the next big thing be an ISP which doesn't give access to the website's of the nations public TV and radio stations' websites? Or will even The Pirate Bay and Google Video be recognized as sites where you can access TV and radio programs, thus making any such attempts from the ISPs worthless?
Selling music is profitable, with or without copyright laws. Music isn't just "single copies that you can play when you want it". Music could be that you go to a concert and listen, play by yourself, go and dance or whatever. It could be an live experince.
The "single copy"-music is just a tiny bit of the music system.
Keep in mind that what's your talking about is the American Law. Here in Sweden, there's no such thing as "fair use". Google would not hold up in court under our legislation. Our copyright laws are strictly opt-in - you have to ask BEFORE you do the copying, otherwise it's copyright infringement. The lack of a robots.txt file is not the same thing as saying "Here, copy what you want and store it in your cache". An opt-out system is not enough neither, 'cause the copy has already been made.
But he IS right. It's VERY clear what will be installed. I have used Messenger Plus since version one point something (I just switched to a MacBook and are not using MSN Messenger anymore, but before that I used to have the latest versions of both MSN Messenger and Messenger Plus). I have been following the discussions and controversy when Patchou begun the sponsor program and I have been following the changes in the installer.
It doesn't look like an EULA anymore, and you have to specificially enable the sponsor program by your own free will. It's very clear that you don't have to enable it to use the full version av Messenger Plus.
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I know it's bad. I just wanted to make sure everybody knew the distinction, because it could be even worse.
In Sweden they are going to let the intelligence bureau (FRA) do an automatic live search through all communication that go over the country's borders, including 98% of all the Internet traffic, in the search for terrorists and other threats against the nation.
This law is necessary for all countries which are members of the European Union to implement, because it is a EU directive.
Germany are not the only country in EU that will pass this law. Every country in the union are obliged to have their telephone companies and ISPs keep the information for at least six years (I think Sweden are going to recuire the companies to keep the data for at least a year, but I have not followed the debate for the last months).
It is important to point out, however, that it's only the metadata that will be saved. You can see that a person have contacted another person, and probably even where this was (if it's a mobile phone), but you can't see what they have been talking about.
Are you kidding me? Why can't criminals vote? And why are there _any_ sort of restrictions? Aren't everyone humans and part of the country, after all?
I'm from Sweden, where we get a letter a month before the election day with all the information we may need to get our vote counted. We don't have to register at all. If we can't vote on the election day we may even go to a nearby library, post office or embassy and vote there. They start the elections a few weeks before election day.
Every vote is important.
Communism and democracy is not each others opposites. You can very well have a communist country where you have your right to free speech, where you can choose your leaders and so on.
I guess you was just wanting your revenge on all those fire alarms who had been pulling you in Soviet Russia...
I can see it now. 400 000 Slashdotters suddenly stopped tagging articles "dupe". They're all "clone"s from now on.
If it's supposed to be a "free market", why would we grant some people monopolies for something that wouldn't be profitable otherwise?
This isn't a question about "communism vs socialism vs liberalism vs capitalism". I am myself a socialist and think that the society as a whole would benefit a lot from copying, sampling and from using other peoples work as a ground for new inventions.
I was in an argument with pv2b (the one you just called "communist") once, and he was more radical in his opinions than I am. I have a big ideological problem right now because I am a member of the Swedish Pirate Party and at the same time am I worrying about the GPL. He, on the other hand, doesn't care about GPL being useless because everyone will benefit from the copying anyway and he think it is everyones right to build upon a work without having to comply to any artificial restrictions, that "intellectual property" is just nonsense. I would call his opinions liberalism, not communism (remember that you don't take away the original authors right to use his work. You just make a copy of it and build upon it).
Anyone, from whichever end of the political scale, can have opinions about intellectual property, both pro and against.
I don't know about you, but I have never read a book on a computer screen, nor have I had the time to print it out (I wouldn't want to read from thos printouts anyway. A book is much better).
I know this is sort of a bad argument when there's digital paper under development. But then again, there will always be ways to earn money from what people want. You can sell it beforehand and tell your customers that it won't be any new book if they don't pay you. You can sell merchandising (I've seen a few web comics earning their living this way), or you could just trust me when I say that books won't go away any day soon.
A big part of the Swedish movie industry is funded by the government.
Yes, it's kind of slow, especially at peak hours, but it works!
They definitly need more servers running so if you have some spare bandwith I think they would love you for setting up a Tor server.
You are right about IT don't doing it's job here. But even if they were more skilled, wouldn't it be hard to block for example Tor running over port 80, or Apache running at home with mod_proxy? Just to find out that someone is using these services is pretty hard if you don't have good log file statistics, and even then it could be a pretty tough job if the students have a dynamic ip address, if they know of new software bypassing the filters and so on.
Do not underestimate the skills of the pupils. I'm 19 years old. My last five or six years in school, between the lessons, has been dedicated to breaking through the filters in the network. Not because I need it but because I can.
There's a shitload of ways to use our network, ranging from the almost unknown, unprotected wireless access point in a small part of the school to setting up that Tor server and client and setting it to use port 80 through the main proxies. We even have an obscure unfiltered proxy (with logging disabled, I've been told) in the library at another school which, for some reason, can be used from any public school in the whole town because we share the same network.
A few years ago I used to maintain an application that anyone could use to get through the filtering, but it was kind of boring. I prefer to test my (and the IT staff's) skills and not actually using my tricks for anything useful.
My point is that it's not always easy to set up one proxy to rule them all when you have pupils interested in computers and networking.
I don't think that the principal should have so much power over the IT staff. IT should do his job: keeping the IT services running. He shouldnät waste his time doing private stuff for the principal.
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Here in Sweden the kids are the ones choosing the network operator. They are the ones who actually know anything at all about the many operators you can choose from. These kids will surely not pick any ISP which are strongly discouraged by the piracy lobby. In fact, the ISP's that are opposing the media industry is the ones that get the most customers.
The network operator who disagree to use both Thompson's technology and the media companies' content, that operator will be the big winner because it will be promoted by the piracy lobby by word of mouth.
The ISP should not decide what we use our connection for.
I got an SonyEricsson J100i from my mobile service provider for $10 (no hidden fees and no monthly fee) here in Sweden. You can call and text people from it. Simple as that.
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No, it's not a joke. The prosecutor compared The Pirate Bureau (a piracy think tank) to Sinn Féin and The Pirate Bay to IRA.
That was of course really stupid and he never used that analogy again.
But _did_ use some really terrible comparisons later when he in court compared this case with a car theft in the 80's where the police had to keep the car for a long period of time during investigation. Of course that's just bullshit because they can't copy a car but they can (and do) copy the hard drives for investigation and leave the computers untouched, so they could have returned the computers right away (as was The Pirate Bay's demand).
Yes, but if my ISP won't allow me to connect to the television's website, then the problem wouldn't be on my side. It's the ISP who have blocked my access, and I therefore have no equipment that can receive the material. To receive the TV shows I have to get a new ISP.
If we put it another way: I go to my friend's home and watch his TV, do I have to pay? I have, after all, the equipment (my friend) that is needed to see TV shows. It doesn't matter if he don't let me into his home - I still have to pay because it is possible for him to change his mind later. Right?
There's a similar update of the laws in Sweden. This may very well spread to a lot of countries.
Will the next big thing be an ISP which doesn't give access to the website's of the nations public TV and radio stations' websites?
Or will even The Pirate Bay and Google Video be recognized as sites where you can access TV and radio programs, thus making any such attempts from the ISPs worthless?
Selling music is profitable, with or without copyright laws. Music isn't just "single copies that you can play when you want it". Music could be that you go to a concert and listen, play by yourself, go and dance or whatever. It could be an live experince.
The "single copy"-music is just a tiny bit of the music system.
I think this one goes as "housekeeping the developers expect the users to do".
Keep in mind that what's your talking about is the American Law. Here in Sweden, there's no such thing as "fair use". Google would not hold up in court under our legislation. Our copyright laws are strictly opt-in - you have to ask BEFORE you do the copying, otherwise it's copyright infringement. The lack of a robots.txt file is not the same thing as saying "Here, copy what you want and store it in your cache". An opt-out system is not enough neither, 'cause the copy has already been made.
But he IS right. It's VERY clear what will be installed. I have used Messenger Plus since version one point something (I just switched to a MacBook and are not using MSN Messenger anymore, but before that I used to have the latest versions of both MSN Messenger and Messenger Plus). I have been following the discussions and controversy when Patchou begun the sponsor program and I have been following the changes in the installer.
It doesn't look like an EULA anymore, and you have to specificially enable the sponsor program by your own free will. It's very clear that you don't have to enable it to use the full version av Messenger Plus.
The article is not fair on this point.