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Once again, you, like many before you, seem under informed both in the history of copyright and its current implementation. For a nice examination of the history and the current state of affairs, go read Lawrence Lessig's Free Culture. The book, if you don't want to buy it, is also available for free as a PDF released under the creative commons license.
Until then, I'd really suggest you not make blanket statements for which you are not logically equipped to back up.
Copyrighted works have value and, in the case of music, it is demostrated value (people pay for it). Because people are obtaining the music without paying for it, against the wishes of the copyright holder, when they would have had to pay for it
Used music purchases are often against the "wishes" of the copyright holder, do not benefit the copyright holder, and deprive the copyright holder 'income'. Copyright law wasn't about protecting holder's incomes, in fact it was really the opposite. Copyright law was designed to force things into the public domain, as the common law at the time allowed for the argument of perpetual copyright. It isn't until recently that there is all this crying over derivative works, insanely long copyright terms and instant copyright of everything without application and without application for extensions. These benefit the corporations, the holders, and do not benefit the people or public in any way. It undermines the public domain and reduces creative possibilities.
Unless you can prove that all the people who downloaded the work would never have paid for it, arguing that downloaders would not have bought the music does not stand.
Actually it is a valid argument. If those in favor of stringent copyright laws want to argue in favor of "lost sales" without providing any proof to the matter other than made up numbers, then yes, the otherside can say "I wouldn't have bought it anyway."
I'm not against copyright and I do believe that creators deserve protection. But there needs to modifications to take into account current technology, and the lifetime of a copyright needs to be severly reduced to encourage innovation and allow the public domain, and thus the public, to flourish. And, contrary to what people want you to believe, the point of the following line is to LIMIT the term of IP protection:
To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
Why? Was this for a business? I don't know why anyone would buy from Dell...or any retail PC manufacturer. It takes 20 minutes to put together a computer with quality, known components.
OSS can compete with commercial offerings, it just usually takes more time to mature. Now, I'd expect to see a burgeoning market for MySQL support companies or companies offering database services and supports based on customized OSS MySQL sources. I use MySQL for websites and such, it's a great little database but I had no idea how much it scaled:
MySQL has a demonstrated capacity for managing very large databases. Mytrix, Inc. maintains an extensive collection of Internet statistics in a one terabyte (1 TB) data warehouse that contains 20 billion rows of data. Sabre Holdings runs the oldest and largest online travel reservation system. It replicates 10-60 gigabytes per day from its master database to a MySQL server farm. The MySQL databases are used to support a shopping application that can accommodate a million fare changes per day.
Well yes, gamers are usually the first on the bleeding edge and AMD64 is still considered to be just that. That said, my next box build would be an AMD643000 just for the fact its only 40$ more than the same speed AMDXP processor. I've been wishlisting forever and the AMD64 3000 hasn't budged from 146$ on Newegg. In fact, since theyve inflated shipping costs its pretty much gone up. Is it just cause the processor pricing is tierbased? And thats the lowest that proc will ever be, though it may be replaced with a slightly better one in that tiers slot?
ummm...while your efforts are noble the confusion comes from the fact that for most words 's denotes possesion. It's better to explain it as a special case than to try to explain ' as denoting a replacement, as its use is not always that way.
Go read Lessig's Free Culture, then come back to the discussion with a little more realistic perspective.
Apparently you missed the real cruft of this situation. It is less about copyright issues right now and more about corporations abusing the legal system and bullying people into submission.
What an ignorant statement. The current equivalent to Tamagotchi is Nintendogs which is one neat piece of software and is the type of thing I have come to expect from Nintendo. I may play my games on an xbox or pc or ps2, but I always enjoy seeing what new quirky things nintendo is trying to hock on the public.
Yeah, it always amazes me that we've been talking for years about web platforms, etc. No one wants to have to be logged on to write a quick letter in a word processor. Maybe under some circumstances it would make sense (corporate networks using centralized programs) but that can be done anyways without the web.
You hit it right here:the world of users was ebullient when it shook off the shackels of having to connect to a mainframe to do work; why would they want to give that freedom up?
If anything, cheap, selfcontained multipurpose computing devices could become a threat but that is doubtful.
Is most/all google's revenue from adwords?
I think he means they can't boot at all FROM an sata CD drive. Id suspect any modern livecd to support sata hard drives. Hes prolly right about the cd support though.
And it should be that way...whenever I see Minimum Credit Card Purchase Signs...I intentionally purchase less than posted. Most know not to argue and when asked will say its just a courtesy suggestion not a requirement but Im sure many people fall for it.
I agree the feedback system is fundamentally flawed but wtf are you saying? So they will refuse to do business with you cause you left negative feedback? Well...I dont see much problem with that....burning bridges....
What Id like to see is bans for all the: If you post negative, ill post negative.
Ebay isnt really suited for "deals" on a mac mini. Ebay is best (both for buying and selling) obscure, niche things that people know what they are looking for. Best example is used car parts for older cars. Sure, you can sell books and music and dvds on amazon, Im not sure about other things though.
Im all for the competition. And yes, ebay is flooded with spammy things and scams. And yes, ebay as a corp is pretty greedy and turns a blind eye because of fees. but if you know how to use it right and are wary (as in any internet dealings), ebay is just as useful as it ever was.
First....Its 333.39 for a new PC with no monitor but INET access and software
Surplus store/Garage: 50$ + 12*10(cheap dialup) =170$ and the pc will be used and who know what if any software or whatnot.
Recycler: 130$ same thing.
Dumpster: YMMV
As far as extra 2-4$ a month for dsl...nuh uh. By the time you add taxes and other "fees" that they are allowed to charge now...it is way more than they advertise.
Not to mention the main flaw of your arguement: A person who would be satisified with this level of computer would prolly be satisified with dial up. You know...it does work for web and email fairly well....
How would you like it if a 'vigilante' defaced your site claiming you were a fraud?
My site isn't a blatant copy of CitiBank's. This isn't a grey area...these sites are black and white...the grey area argument does not apply here.
You watch too many scifi movies. As bad as advertising is...it is not going to go places where consumers won't tolerate. It is passive on TV, it becomes intrusive on your coffee cup.
I agree with tvs in bedroom == bad idea, but removal from the house is a little extreme. The TV, like anything, has pros and cons and can be put to good uses.
Even with that it's more of an individual effort with random comments on other individuals than any sort of community? Slashdot is more communal than any sort of blog. There needs to be a balance.
Not that this would technically be possible, but that's what musicians and the like often face.
Ummm. No it is not. No one is stopping them from making money. In fact, they are making money just fine. CD sales are up. You can't legitimately claim lost money because people have obtained copies of your work. Go read that Nirvan producers manifesto. Bands don't make much from CDs. The noncontentproducers: labels, publishers rake in the dough. A musician is better off giving away their music for free and then performing for money.
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Until then, I'd really suggest you not make blanket statements for which you are not logically equipped to back up.
Copyrighted works have value and, in the case of music, it is demostrated value (people pay for it). Because people are obtaining the music without paying for it, against the wishes of the copyright holder, when they would have had to pay for it
Used music purchases are often against the "wishes" of the copyright holder, do not benefit the copyright holder, and deprive the copyright holder 'income'. Copyright law wasn't about protecting holder's incomes, in fact it was really the opposite. Copyright law was designed to force things into the public domain, as the common law at the time allowed for the argument of perpetual copyright. It isn't until recently that there is all this crying over derivative works, insanely long copyright terms and instant copyright of everything without application and without application for extensions. These benefit the corporations, the holders, and do not benefit the people or public in any way. It undermines the public domain and reduces creative possibilities.
Unless you can prove that all the people who downloaded the work would never have paid for it, arguing that downloaders would not have bought the music does not stand.
Actually it is a valid argument. If those in favor of stringent copyright laws want to argue in favor of "lost sales" without providing any proof to the matter other than made up numbers, then yes, the otherside can say "I wouldn't have bought it anyway."
I'm not against copyright and I do believe that creators deserve protection. But there needs to modifications to take into account current technology, and the lifetime of a copyright needs to be severly reduced to encourage innovation and allow the public domain, and thus the public, to flourish. And, contrary to what people want you to believe, the point of the following line is to LIMIT the term of IP protection: To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;
Why? Was this for a business? I don't know why anyone would buy from Dell...or any retail PC manufacturer. It takes 20 minutes to put together a computer with quality, known components.
OSS can compete with commercial offerings, it just usually takes more time to mature. Now, I'd expect to see a burgeoning market for MySQL support companies or companies offering database services and supports based on customized OSS MySQL sources. I use MySQL for websites and such, it's a great little database but I had no idea how much it scaled: MySQL has a demonstrated capacity for managing very large databases. Mytrix, Inc. maintains an extensive collection of Internet statistics in a one terabyte (1 TB) data warehouse that contains 20 billion rows of data. Sabre Holdings runs the oldest and largest online travel reservation system. It replicates 10-60 gigabytes per day from its master database to a MySQL server farm. The MySQL databases are used to support a shopping application that can accommodate a million fare changes per day.
Well yes, gamers are usually the first on the bleeding edge and AMD64 is still considered to be just that. That said, my next box build would be an AMD643000 just for the fact its only 40$ more than the same speed AMDXP processor. I've been wishlisting forever and the AMD64 3000 hasn't budged from 146$ on Newegg. In fact, since theyve inflated shipping costs its pretty much gone up. Is it just cause the processor pricing is tierbased? And thats the lowest that proc will ever be, though it may be replaced with a slightly better one in that tiers slot?
It should be public record, so I don't think it would matter. They charge a 'reasonable fee' to access, but the information is public information.
ummm...while your efforts are noble the confusion comes from the fact that for most words 's denotes possesion. It's better to explain it as a special case than to try to explain ' as denoting a replacement, as its use is not always that way.
Go read Lessig's Free Culture, then come back to the discussion with a little more realistic perspective. Apparently you missed the real cruft of this situation. It is less about copyright issues right now and more about corporations abusing the legal system and bullying people into submission.
What an ignorant statement. The current equivalent to Tamagotchi is Nintendogs which is one neat piece of software and is the type of thing I have come to expect from Nintendo. I may play my games on an xbox or pc or ps2, but I always enjoy seeing what new quirky things nintendo is trying to hock on the public.
Yeah, it always amazes me that we've been talking for years about web platforms, etc. No one wants to have to be logged on to write a quick letter in a word processor. Maybe under some circumstances it would make sense (corporate networks using centralized programs) but that can be done anyways without the web. You hit it right here:the world of users was ebullient when it shook off the shackels of having to connect to a mainframe to do work; why would they want to give that freedom up? If anything, cheap, selfcontained multipurpose computing devices could become a threat but that is doubtful. Is most/all google's revenue from adwords?
I think he means they can't boot at all FROM an sata CD drive. Id suspect any modern livecd to support sata hard drives. Hes prolly right about the cd support though.
And it should be that way...whenever I see Minimum Credit Card Purchase Signs...I intentionally purchase less than posted. Most know not to argue and when asked will say its just a courtesy suggestion not a requirement but Im sure many people fall for it.
I agree the feedback system is fundamentally flawed but wtf are you saying? So they will refuse to do business with you cause you left negative feedback? Well...I dont see much problem with that....burning bridges.... What Id like to see is bans for all the: If you post negative, ill post negative.
BS, theres no way they are removing auctions on any sort of regular basis. Have you seen the obvious BS scam shit on there?
Ebay isnt really suited for "deals" on a mac mini. Ebay is best (both for buying and selling) obscure, niche things that people know what they are looking for. Best example is used car parts for older cars. Sure, you can sell books and music and dvds on amazon, Im not sure about other things though. Im all for the competition. And yes, ebay is flooded with spammy things and scams. And yes, ebay as a corp is pretty greedy and turns a blind eye because of fees. but if you know how to use it right and are wary (as in any internet dealings), ebay is just as useful as it ever was.
Use taxes are the biggest scam in the tax system today.
give me a tool to create the stuff in linux and id be happy
First....Its 333.39 for a new PC with no monitor but INET access and software Surplus store/Garage: 50$ + 12*10(cheap dialup) =170$ and the pc will be used and who know what if any software or whatnot. Recycler: 130$ same thing. Dumpster: YMMV As far as extra 2-4$ a month for dsl...nuh uh. By the time you add taxes and other "fees" that they are allowed to charge now...it is way more than they advertise. Not to mention the main flaw of your arguement: A person who would be satisified with this level of computer would prolly be satisified with dial up. You know...it does work for web and email fairly well....
How would you like it if a 'vigilante' defaced your site claiming you were a fraud? My site isn't a blatant copy of CitiBank's. This isn't a grey area...these sites are black and white...the grey area argument does not apply here.
You watch too many scifi movies. As bad as advertising is...it is not going to go places where consumers won't tolerate. It is passive on TV, it becomes intrusive on your coffee cup.
I agree with tvs in bedroom == bad idea, but removal from the house is a little extreme. The TV, like anything, has pros and cons and can be put to good uses.
If sony didn't use yet another prop memory stick then I'd be all over this in a heartbeat.
Even with that it's more of an individual effort with random comments on other individuals than any sort of community? Slashdot is more communal than any sort of blog. There needs to be a balance.
Not that this would technically be possible, but that's what musicians and the like often face. Ummm. No it is not. No one is stopping them from making money. In fact, they are making money just fine. CD sales are up. You can't legitimately claim lost money because people have obtained copies of your work. Go read that Nirvan producers manifesto. Bands don't make much from CDs. The noncontentproducers: labels, publishers rake in the dough. A musician is better off giving away their music for free and then performing for money.
So the movie theatre is getting screwed by the studios and I'm supposed to support their broken business model? No thanks.
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