And yeah, God forbid that after reading the classifieds, hoofing it around in the day to try to find a job, a poor person would find the time in their hectic schedule to watch TV.
Don't forbid it, just don't expect me to pay for it. If they don't want to be poor, they should have picked up books at the library and be learning something worthwhile. If they don't care about being poor, then so be it, but do not expect me to subsidize them sitting around on their asses being fed bullshit propaganda by the boob tube.
Actively working to get stupider, is not something to be encouraged.
I'd trust Bush with them more, any day of the week. That's the whole point.
It's wise not to trust anybody with those powers, but to trust Bush more than Obama proves you to be a fucking moron. Hot tip, Sparky, there is no speculation whatsoever. We know Bush abused those powers for his own gain and to the detriment of the nation. With Obama it's only speculation. Therefore, you are proven by your own words to be a fucking moron. There is no possible way for you to contradict that.
I mean you'd have to be dumb as fuck to be a Republican ever since Nixon since they've gone completely downhill from there in every way, but damn you are way fucking stupider than even that.
Pull your head out of your ass and look around just for a second. I mean you're not even sounding remotely sane. "Durrr I'd pick the proven traitor over somebody I speculate might be one".
Seriously, you're such an extremist partisan hack and douche that you fail to grasp the pure insanity of that statement. You, and the rest of the fucking douchebags who treat political parties like football teams are the primary problem with this country. Go die in a fire you stupid scumbag piece of shit.
Also, for every spectacular pizzeria, there are at least five or ten crappy ones in its vicinity. The pizza here is nothing to marvel about, most of the time. Whoever tells you that doesn't know pizza from a Big Mac.
Ain't that the truth. You have to come here to Chicago if you want real pizza.
Don't even get me started on how pathetic your government has gotten at corruption either....slackers;-)
I recently (6 months ago) gave up driving a truck (18 wheeler for the US residents) because although the physical act of driving was easy, the mental stress of being abused by just about everybody else on the road led to me being pissed off the whole time.
Come on now, you quit because people started frowning on all the hooker killing, right?
If that link you posted is authentic, considering that Luther very explicitly said that the only source of religious teaching is the Bible itself, one should only need to ask him "which part of 'thou shall not kill' you don't understand".
Typical laughable idiotic response. It's called the "No true Scotsman" fallacy. Using it is a sure sign that your brain doesn't work. Obviously the link is legit. It's Luther's book. He was quite proud of it and you could easily verify it yourself. Hell, since you're spouting his praises I'm forced to assume that you've spent a couple minutes out of your life learning something about him and so were already well aware of it. Assuming you were so fucking stupid and ignorant as to praise such a fucking monster while never even bothering to learn anything meaningful about him would be very mean and I try to think the best of people.
Seriously, try reading the fucking bible rather than demanding it's true because some fucking pedophile told you it was. You do know, don't you, that the same god who said thou shall not kill told the Hebrews to murder every man woman and child in the promised land in order to steal it, right?
Norwegians are Lutherans and Martin Luther never told his followers to kill people who don't follow Martin Luther's teachings.
Damn, dude, you might consider reading the shit that monster wrote before spouting such idiotic, insane nonsense. Have you ever heard of the holocaust? That was his plan, every single step of the way. Hitler just implemented it. Luther justified it in the context of Christianity.
You won't find any Christian who's afraid to criticize David Koresh or Jim Jones, but how many Islamists are ready to make a critical comment about Mohammed Atta?
Yet you see plenty of Christians defending extremist hate mongers like the Pope, Jerry Falwell, and a whole bunch of other frothing loons.
Yeah, when you consider the kind of people who are generally privileged enough to get bunker access, I'd be happier staying outside... especially if I had to share the bunker with Elijah Wood and Tea Leoni.
Completely wrong kind of privilege, Dude. Picture sharing a bunker with Dick Cheney and Hillary Clinton. Elija and Tea would only make it if they were somebody's property.
I don't think that Oil Liberation has proven to be all that economical
What do you mean? We the people paid for it (socialized costs) the oil and weapons industries profited massively (privatized profit). That is a perfect example of fascist economics running smoothly and well. Everything went exactly according to plan.
just burn/copy/save/whatever your home directory, install the OS clean, copy all the stuff back, and boom, you're upgraded. App preferences saved, all your files exist, everything just works.
Sure, back it all up, but unless something goes wrong, don't even bother copying stuff back. Just don't reformat/home and everything just stays there. I just converted from Gentoo to Ubuntu and had everything intact afterward with no issues at all.
"[citation to make someone actually believe this stupid assertion needed, but impossible to supply]
Provide a citation of some credible *military* threat justifying even 80% of our "defense" budget I fucking dare you, shit for brains. You will fail utterly.
Until you can do that, my assertion stands as your rejection of depends entirely upon your apparent belief that we're under a constant barrage of *military* attacks justifying paying more than then next 5 countries put together.
What, you can't come up with *any* justification for even 1/20th of our current spending let alone the 1/10th I suggested reducing it to?
Then shut the fuck up, moron. My assertion quite obviously isn't stupid as you can come up with nothing to justify the contrary. Learn to think, not just whine when intelligent people talk. Your ignorant, cowardly, inability to understand what the words I use mean doesn't mean that your whining little bitchery has any value. If you want to pay 10 times what's even sane, do it yourself and keep your cowardly, thieving, idiotic little paw out of my pocket and grow a pair.
National security is more important than a bunch of bloated social programs that tend not to work very well.
Except that security theater, police state bullshit and propping up the military industrial complex has nothing to do with national security and that's far and away the vast majority of the money that gets spent on "national security".
We could cut the "defense" and "homeland security" budgets by 90+% and have no national security issues at all.
Still when has anyone successfully robbed a gun store?
I've heard hilarious stories about people who have tried. Hopefully just urban legends though...that's a whole level of stupid I don't like think about actually existing.
For a few selected DRAM producers yes, but in general governments should not let large players in major industries fail.
And you base this ridiculous notion on what exactly? It's a fact that the US auto makers sell products most people don't want. Handing them my cash won't magically make their cars better. So allbailing them out will do is hurt the economy by making me have less to spend on worthwhile things. Keeping them in business making crap which they made crap on purpose due to their policy of planned obsolescence isn't going to help anything because people will still not want their crap.
We're not in charge of economic policy and those who are know what they are doing most of the time. Economics is not an easy game to play, with no real correct solutions at times, just good estimates based on past, present and predicted results.
Your second sentence directly contradicts your first.
There isn't any kind of insane conspiracy scheme to keep businesses floating along when they don't deserve to, but there is a desire to keep the economy afloat and improving, with reasonable inflation, unemployment and interest rates.
I didn't claim any such thing. However merely handing cash to failed businesses who failed due to their own poor decision to try and screw the American people through planned obsolescence and the subsequent handing to them of their own asses by the Japanese auto makers who didn't buy into planned obsolescence doesn't do any of the things you're trying to claim it does. All it does is hand money to failurews so they can keep being failures a little longer. It's called throwing good money after bad and it's a bad idea.
Market forces are not the be all and end all of policy, and to follow the markets purely would result in disaster every time. That would be batshit insane.
I've never claimed otherwise. Handing out cash to failures isn't the sole alternative to a strict market solution.
Especially as the current global economic problems do not stem from poor business models, but initially from the banks failure to curb lending to sub-prime mortgages in the US.
The failure of the US auto industry has been going on far longer than the current economic situation, and it is almost entirely due to their piss poor decision making.
I'm with the economists on this one - bail outs are new territory, but it will shorten the current crisis and have real benefits at the end of it, from economic to social.
Well, you're with some economists. I fail to see how propping up failures so they don't learn from their failures is supposed to shorten a crisis caused by unrealistic assumptions. What *will* happen is at best a temporary improvement leading to an even bigger crash as a crash is inevitable given the unsustainable requirement for continuous exponential growth upon which this mess is based. You go ahead and keep believing in magic though.
Keeping them going is the best option, no matter if the government is helping them out. It is simply sound economic policy.
How exactly is it sound economic policy to make me pay a company whose products people don't want to stay in business *making products people don't want*.
All you're talking about is pumping money into failed enterprises to keep them failing for a bit longer. That's not sound economic policy, it's batshit insane. Yes, there will be hardship, but it will eventually be adjusted for. Your policy will make the eventual hardship worse and longer lasting with zero long term benefit. It's stupid.
If you think for one second that he is going to do anything different form Illinois business as usual you are seriously mistaken.
want to know what Illinois business as usual is, look at the news for the past week.
You're right that assuming Obama is going to magically fix things is wrong, but had you paid any attention at all to the situation in Illinois (I live here), you'd know that Obama got a hearty "Fuck that guy" from Blago because he wasn't interested in playing those games and expected him to do the job he was being paid for without being bribed.
The difference is that the republicans ran a democrat for president and then expected a pretty face from Alaska to settle their concerns about being given a choice between a part time democrat and a full time liberal.
No, the Republicans ran a Republican. That was the problem. The Republican party hates Republicans. That's why Reagan is their saint and they passed over the Republican Barry Goldwater for that fascist douche.
There is nothing worse the a dumbass who thinks he is smarter then someone else when it is their own ignorance creating that impression.
Yes, that would be you. I was talking about the fact that the god of the bible talks about other gods. You ranted about the two mutually inconsistent creation myths in the bible.
So according to you, there's nothing worse than you?
*sigh* Cueing the millionth identical replay of the exact same longwinded "BSD is freer because...." "No, GPL is freer because...." discussion subthread, in which the contributors get to restate the established position using the same old arguments to make the same old points, and neither side changes the other's mind.
Yeah, they're probably Emacs users, the lot of them.
It does say that there were other people around, but depending on the version you are looking at it isn't clear at all where the hell these other mysterious groups of people came from.
Presumably they were created by one of the many other gods that the Judeo/Christian god believes in and is so jealous of.
That to me is one of the funniest parts of that whole mythology. You have a bunch of montheists worshipping a polytheistic god. It's like "Sure, god, you're crazy as fuck to believe in all those other fantasy gods, but you're the boss".
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And yeah, God forbid that after reading the classifieds, hoofing it around in the day to try to find a job, a poor person would find the time in their hectic schedule to watch TV.
Don't forbid it, just don't expect me to pay for it. If they don't want to be poor, they should have picked up books at the library and be learning something worthwhile. If they don't care about being poor, then so be it, but do not expect me to subsidize them sitting around on their asses being fed bullshit propaganda by the boob tube.
Actively working to get stupider, is not something to be encouraged.
We use R for thousands of massively parallel computations on TeraGrid, using its database interface to querty remoted DBs.
Ummm, it's spelled "qwerty", although how you could make that mistake is beyond me ;-)
I always heard it was:
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I'd trust Bush with them more, any day of the week. That's the whole point.
It's wise not to trust anybody with those powers, but to trust Bush more than Obama proves you to be a fucking moron. Hot tip, Sparky, there is no speculation whatsoever. We know Bush abused those powers for his own gain and to the detriment of the nation. With Obama it's only speculation. Therefore, you are proven by your own words to be a fucking moron. There is no possible way for you to contradict that.
I mean you'd have to be dumb as fuck to be a Republican ever since Nixon since they've gone completely downhill from there in every way, but damn you are way fucking stupider than even that.
Pull your head out of your ass and look around just for a second. I mean you're not even sounding remotely sane. "Durrr I'd pick the proven traitor over somebody I speculate might be one".
Seriously, you're such an extremist partisan hack and douche that you fail to grasp the pure insanity of that statement. You, and the rest of the fucking douchebags who treat political parties like football teams are the primary problem with this country.
Go die in a fire you stupid scumbag piece of shit.
Also, for every spectacular pizzeria, there are at least five or ten crappy ones in its vicinity. The pizza here is nothing to marvel about, most of the time. Whoever tells you that doesn't know pizza from a Big Mac.
Ain't that the truth. You have to come here to Chicago if you want real pizza.
Don't even get me started on how pathetic your government has gotten at corruption either....slackers ;-)
I recently (6 months ago) gave up driving a truck (18 wheeler for the US residents) because although the physical act of driving was easy, the mental stress of being abused by just about everybody else on the road led to me being pissed off the whole time.
Come on now, you quit because people started frowning on all the hooker killing, right?
If that link you posted is authentic, considering that Luther very explicitly said that the only source of religious teaching is the Bible itself, one should only need to ask him "which part of 'thou shall not kill' you don't understand".
Typical laughable idiotic response. It's called the "No true Scotsman" fallacy. Using it is a sure sign that your brain doesn't work. Obviously the link is legit. It's Luther's book. He was quite proud of it and you could easily verify it yourself. Hell, since you're spouting his praises I'm forced to assume that you've spent a couple minutes out of your life learning something about him and so were already well aware of it. Assuming you were so fucking stupid and ignorant as to praise such a fucking monster while never even bothering to learn anything meaningful about him would be very mean and I try to think the best of people.
Seriously, try reading the fucking bible rather than demanding it's true because some fucking pedophile told you it was. You do know, don't you, that the same god who said thou shall not kill told the Hebrews to murder every man woman and child in the promised land in order to steal it, right?
Fucking disgustingly evil moron.
Norwegians are Lutherans and Martin Luther never told his followers to kill people who don't follow Martin Luther's teachings.
Damn, dude, you might consider reading the shit that monster wrote before spouting such idiotic, insane nonsense. Have you ever heard of the holocaust? That was his plan, every single step of the way. Hitler just implemented it. Luther justified it in the context of Christianity.
You won't find any Christian who's afraid to criticize David Koresh or Jim Jones, but how many Islamists are ready to make a critical comment about Mohammed Atta?
Yet you see plenty of Christians defending extremist hate mongers like the Pope, Jerry Falwell, and a whole bunch of other frothing loons.
Yeah, when you consider the kind of people who are generally privileged enough to get bunker access, I'd be happier staying outside... especially if I had to share the bunker with Elijah Wood and Tea Leoni.
Completely wrong kind of privilege, Dude.
Picture sharing a bunker with Dick Cheney and Hillary Clinton.
Elija and Tea would only make it if they were somebody's property.
I don't think that Oil Liberation has proven to be all that economical
What do you mean? We the people paid for it (socialized costs) the oil and weapons industries profited massively (privatized profit). That is a perfect example of fascist economics running smoothly and well. Everything went exactly according to plan.
just burn/copy/save/whatever your home directory, install the OS clean, copy all the stuff back, and boom, you're upgraded. App preferences saved, all your files exist, everything just works.
Sure, back it all up, but unless something goes wrong, don't even bother copying stuff back. Just don't reformat /home and everything just stays there. I just converted from Gentoo to Ubuntu and had everything intact afterward with no issues at all.
"[citation to make someone actually believe this stupid assertion needed, but impossible to supply]
Provide a citation of some credible *military* threat justifying even 80% of our "defense" budget I fucking dare you, shit for brains. You will fail utterly.
Until you can do that, my assertion stands as your rejection of depends entirely upon your apparent belief that we're under a constant barrage of *military* attacks justifying paying more than then next 5 countries put together.
What, you can't come up with *any* justification for even 1/20th of our current spending let alone the 1/10th I suggested reducing it to?
Then shut the fuck up, moron.
My assertion quite obviously isn't stupid as you can come up with nothing to justify the contrary. Learn to think, not just whine when intelligent people talk. Your ignorant, cowardly, inability to understand what the words I use mean doesn't mean that your whining little bitchery has any value. If you want to pay 10 times what's even sane, do it yourself and keep your cowardly, thieving, idiotic little paw out of my pocket and grow a pair.
National security is more important than a bunch of bloated social programs that tend not to work very well.
Except that security theater, police state bullshit and propping up the military industrial complex has nothing to do with national security and that's far and away the vast majority of the money that gets spent on "national security".
We could cut the "defense" and "homeland security" budgets by 90+% and have no national security issues at all.
Still when has anyone successfully robbed a gun store?
I've heard hilarious stories about people who have tried. Hopefully just urban legends though...that's a whole level of stupid I don't like think about actually existing.
For a few selected DRAM producers yes, but in general governments should not let large players in major industries fail.
And you base this ridiculous notion on what exactly?
It's a fact that the US auto makers sell products most people don't want. Handing them my cash won't magically make their cars better. So allbailing them out will do is hurt the economy by making me have less to spend on worthwhile things. Keeping them in business making crap which they made crap on purpose due to their policy of planned obsolescence isn't going to help anything because people will still not want their crap.
We're not in charge of economic policy and those who are know what they are doing most of the time. Economics is not an easy game to play, with no real correct solutions at times, just good estimates based on past, present and predicted results.
Your second sentence directly contradicts your first.
There isn't any kind of insane conspiracy scheme to keep businesses floating along when they don't deserve to, but there is a desire to keep the economy afloat and improving, with reasonable inflation, unemployment and interest rates.
I didn't claim any such thing. However merely handing cash to failed businesses who failed due to their own poor decision to try and screw the American people through planned obsolescence and the subsequent handing to them of their own asses by the Japanese auto makers who didn't buy into planned obsolescence doesn't do any of the things you're trying to claim it does. All it does is hand money to failurews so they can keep being failures a little longer. It's called throwing good money after bad and it's a bad idea.
Market forces are not the be all and end all of policy, and to follow the markets purely would result in disaster every time. That would be batshit insane.
I've never claimed otherwise. Handing out cash to failures isn't the sole alternative to a strict market solution.
Especially as the current global economic problems do not stem from poor business models, but initially from the banks failure to curb lending to sub-prime mortgages in the US.
The failure of the US auto industry has been going on far longer than the current economic situation, and it is almost entirely due to their piss poor decision making.
I'm with the economists on this one - bail outs are new territory, but it will shorten the current crisis and have real benefits at the end of it, from economic to social.
Well, you're with some economists. I fail to see how propping up failures so they don't learn from their failures is supposed to shorten a crisis caused by unrealistic assumptions. What *will* happen is at best a temporary improvement leading to an even bigger crash as a crash is inevitable given the unsustainable requirement for continuous exponential growth upon which this mess is based. You go ahead and keep believing in magic though.
Keeping them going is the best option, no matter if the government is helping them out. It is simply sound economic policy.
How exactly is it sound economic policy to make me pay a company whose products people don't want to stay in business *making products people don't want*.
All you're talking about is pumping money into failed enterprises to keep them failing for a bit longer.
That's not sound economic policy, it's batshit insane.
Yes, there will be hardship, but it will eventually be adjusted for. Your policy will make the eventual hardship worse and longer lasting with zero long term benefit. It's stupid.
You must be new here!
Well, I did just move into the state a few years ago.
(just some good old Chicago humor)
Well, I am dead and I voted early and often ;-)
look Obama is a elected official, from Chicago!
If you think for one second that he is going to do anything different form Illinois business as usual you are seriously mistaken.
want to know what Illinois business as usual is, look at the news for the past week.
You're right that assuming Obama is going to magically fix things is wrong, but had you paid any attention at all to the situation in Illinois (I live here), you'd know that Obama got a hearty "Fuck that guy" from Blago because he wasn't interested in playing those games and expected him to do the job he was being paid for without being bribed.
The difference is that the republicans ran a democrat for president and then expected a pretty face from Alaska to settle their concerns about being given a choice between a part time democrat and a full time liberal.
No, the Republicans ran a Republican. That was the problem. The Republican party hates Republicans. That's why Reagan is their saint and they passed over the Republican Barry Goldwater for that fascist douche.
Once you go moose, you never stop being loose.
There is nothing worse the a dumbass who thinks he is smarter then someone else when it is their own ignorance creating that impression.
Yes, that would be you. I was talking about the fact that the god of the bible talks about other gods. You ranted about the two mutually inconsistent creation myths in the bible.
So according to you, there's nothing worse than you?
Your nick is certainly appropriate.
Really? Because I thought that Stallman really did have lawyers nesting in his beard!
Don't listen to that guy. It's true.
*sigh* Cueing the millionth identical replay of the exact same longwinded "BSD is freer because...." "No, GPL is freer because...." discussion subthread, in which the contributors get to restate the established position using the same old arguments to make the same old points, and neither side changes the other's mind.
Yeah, they're probably Emacs users, the lot of them.
It does say that there were other people around, but depending on the version you are looking at it isn't clear at all where the hell these other mysterious groups of people came from.
Presumably they were created by one of the many other gods that the Judeo /Christian god believes in and is so jealous of.
That to me is one of the funniest parts of that whole mythology. You have a bunch of montheists worshipping a polytheistic god. It's like "Sure, god, you're crazy as fuck to believe in all those other fantasy gods, but you're the boss".
Which is a total cop out of a term, but you're allowed to cop out and make up new terms if your name is Gauss.
Cauchy used to give him shit about it though.