BEDEVERE:
Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
VILLAGER #1:
Are there?
VILLAGER #2:
Ah?
VILLAGER #1:
What are they?
CROWD:
Tell us! Tell us!...
BEDEVERE:
Tell me. What do you do with witches?
VILLAGER #2:
Burn!
VILLAGER #1:
Burn!
CROWD:
Burn! Burn them up! Burn!...
BEDEVERE:
And what do you burn apart from witches?
VILLAGER #1:
More witches!
From TFA The more avid users download the upgrades in between, but of XP users how many downloaded a browser that was more advanced than the one they had? Maybe you and the people you know all did, but most people don't.
Yes, Bill, they do, and that browser's name is Firefox.
From TFA: Other issues
This analysis is limited to the replacement of fuels for ground transportation and electric generation. I include no energy to replace heating fuel, industrial energy consumption or several other types of essentials; some of this demand might be handled with better architecture and cogeneration, but the details are beyond the scope of this analysis. Neither do I consider the wisdom of relying entirely on biomass-derived energy and liquids to replace liquid motor fuel and fossil fuel for electric generation. Reliance on a single source risks all end-uses if the supply is interrupted. This would probably be very unwise indeed, and it appears foolhardy not to add large amounts of e.g. wind generation in the mix. The combination of battery-electric vehicles, wind farms and easily-throttled fuel cells would certainly have a total effect greater than the sum of the parts.
It looks like you and your mouthpiece have forgotten how to read. The "Other Issues" section is about 1/4 down the page. If you disagree with any of the quoted facts in the article, please, enlighten us with facts to the contrary. If, however, this article simply ruffles your feathers by not agreeing with your personal politics, don't try to disguise your Troll as an educated post, it's annoying.
That's actually not all that unusual. Building Automation is definitely taking MAJOR advantage of Wireless Technologies. So, that WAP you saw in the boiler room is probably associated with the Building Automation System and thus very unlikely to be connected to the internet and DEFINITELY not connected to MIT's Intranet.
Wireless solutions are being deployed much more frequently in newer buildings and also in older facilities in lieu of having to replace devices that are depracated and run new wires (both of which can be impractical/impossible/expensive).
Who could possibly care about this enough to go through the effort to sign up for something so retarded? If your life is running so short on excitement that your idea of a "thrill" is seeing some hackneyed catchphrase of your choosing displayed over the interstate as you drive by it everyday, you may just need to get out of your parents' basement!
Moreover, imagine the cases of road rage this could inspire. Some douchebag decides to have something offensive/annoying displayed as he/she drives past a billboard EVERY day in bumper to bumper rush hour traffic and some other poor soul who already hates his/her commute has to see the same message if they happen to commute home on the same route at the same time. I can definitely see how someone might snap like Milton after the 10,000th viewing of "Real men drive Fords" or "Know Jesus, know peace....".
...I think it should just produce the music I want to hear when I hammer at it like a retarded orangutang.
That's the tenacious attitude that has provided us with such fabulous "new rock" bands, so please, don't be discouraged. Nevermind that pesky "notes" and "rhythm" stuff, just make sure you wear LOTS of black eyeliner, play a 7-string tuned down a whole tone, and put so much distortion on the vocals that it sounds like a sperm whale with throat cancer and you've got yourself a hit record!!
Or sometimes an "S-trap" depending on the application. You are correct in its designed purpose, but incorrect in its maintenance.
There shouldn't really be a large problem with evaporation provided that there is proper building pressurization/envelope control (remember, changes in building pressure will affect evaporation) and a working Trap Primer system (usually required by Plumbing Code). It is a misconception that floor drains should just "dry out" if the facility is being maintained and was constructed properly. A trap primer operating intermittently to "re-wet" a trap uses a lot less water than even a small trickle from a faucet.
In short, if you're smelling that nasty odor, there's something wrong that requires a fix beyond letting a tap drip, as this merely treats the symptom and not the disease.
Don't let the blowhards get to you. Truth is, I'm still teaching myself Linux. I was first exposed to it years ago when I was pursuing ProSoft's CIW Certification (what a waste of money). Anyway, I was intrigued, but wanted a way to tinker with Linux so I could learn it at my own pace and to a greater degree than was being done in the classroom.
I, like you, was in a position where I needed a Windows box for a variety of Windows-Only apps I was using, and for a while was quite frustrated as to how I was EVER going to get exposed to Linux beyond just reading books. Then I decided to try "dual boot". I've never looked back. I have no idea why so many supporters of the FOSS community seem to shy away from this idea, but for me, it's great. I have my Windows XP partition where I can run all the Windows only stuff I need, and then I have my Linux partition that I can boot into and do whatever I like to. Since it's just for learning, who cares if I screw it up somehow (although, thus far I haven't done any irreparable damage).
In fact, after a year or so of tinkering on my Linux partition, I got brave enough and upgraded my "main" computer, and made my old desktop a dedicated Linux server. Since I had tinkered around and "learned by doing" on my dual boot system, I didn't feel as much like I was in totally uncharted waters. Thus far, I've been able to set up a successful Web Server, FTP server, and if it weren't for my ISP blocking incoming port 25, I'd have an email server too!
Incidentally, I've learned using Fedora, and I like it. There are a lot of distros out there. Try some. Try a LiveCD to get the basic feel of a few. When you find one you like, install it as a dual boot. Fedora was able to take care of installing "around" my Windows XP Pro system no problem (including the boot loader) so if you're worried that you'll hose your Windows partition, don't be, it's not as big a deal as people make it out to be, just be sure that Windows is on there first (it seems to need to think that it's the only OS on the drive). Come on, join the bandwagon, you sound like a smart and thankfully tenacious person. You'll be glad you jumped on board. I'm still learning where I can, and am by no means at all an expert (hell, I'm barely a novice), but at least I know more than I used to.;-)
I share your disdain for "idiots" and ignorance/intolerance in general. However, there are provisions such as "Mrs. Murphy's Exemption" which allow for legal discrimination under certain circumstances.
Actually, it was their Charlotte, NC SMC (they stopped calling them IMC/IPC's for some reason). Never got to the Plano site, but I agree, it is 1 bad mother.
"Modern Generators" as you call them do not happily sync together under load. If you have PLC Controlled Switchgear associated with them, then you will be able to sync them, and even then they'll never be perfect. If one generator lags and becomes a "slave" it also becomes a load to the "master" generator, thus reducing your available power to the critical load. It's definitely not as simple as just dropping a few generators in a row and wiring them to the same buss, I assure you.
Also, a 1MW generator is pretty large, as is the switchgear and any fuel storage tanks associated with it. As far as the UPS's, true, they will take care of brownouts and frequency errors, but you want the power coming in (either utility or generator) to be as clean as possible so that you're not beating the shit out of your batteries every few minutes to take care of spikes. Batteries do have a shelf life and they're not cheap.
Our datacenter has about 24,000 sq feet of raised floor (not huge by datacenter standards) and we have 2 x 2MegaWatt Generators (as well as redundant utility feeds). To say that 2MW is too much power in this case shows your lack of understanding of what a "MAJOR data center with plenty of redundancy" means.
Prior to working here, I was an engineer at one of the main datacenters for a big Texas based IT provider (think Ross Perot) and their datacenter had over 100,000 sq feet of raised floor. At last count, they were up to 9 750KW generators and badly in need of more.
While we're on it, cooling towers do not provide chilled water, they provide CONDENSER WATER, and I promise you that they would not be able to satisfy your cooling needs in a MAJOR datacenter for 2 hours in the event of a chiller failure.
I can appreciate your being surprised at the power/cooling requirements of a datacenter, but don't let your experience at 1 "datacenter" fool you into thinking you know about all datacenters, as like most things, they are not all created equal. In truth, what is one man's datacenter is another man's "server room".
Yes 2 Megawatts. I work running the engineering department for a major financial provider and our campus has two 2 Megawatt generators dedicated to our datacenter (as well as 2 more for the rest of the campus). We actually have most of the infrastructure in place for a third 2 Megawatt generator as we develop the need for power.
You'd be surprised at how much the average load in KW/sq ft has increased in the last several years for a datacenter. Moore's law is FIRMLY in place and it's getting harder and harder to provide adequate, clean, redundant power in critical environments. Server manufacturers are really upping the ante on power consumption which in turn ups the ante on cooling the space(s).
As for your question "wouldn't it make sense to get two smaller units?" , the short answer is no. Mainly, you'd have to have more electrical components (switchgear, breakers, transfer switches, etc) in order to have more than one, plus you've now got another generator to maintain and you're going to need the physical space for it (and all the gear associated with it which is quite a lot). Add to that all the safety equipment you need (FM-200 fire supression, CO2 fire suppresion, Building Automation monitoring, fuel level/leakage detection) and you get really expensive really quickly.
From TFA: Acknowledgements
Thanks to everyone on the Simmons Rush team that helped with the installation including soldering, duct taping, and cutting. Thanks to Simmons Hall for providing the funding for this project.
While I agree that "overcommercialization" of this would indeed suck, I was thinking of it more in a sponsorship type of income opportunity. You know, getting a PC vendor/LED manufacturer to provide parts at cost, leasing equipment at preferred rates, etc.
If they're really clever, they could sell advertising and offset the cost of adding to the array. I'm betting companies like Intel, AMD, IBM, Dell, etc would be willing to part with a little cash for some display time on a building/billboard at MIT.
First off, I'll say that I'm absolutely a Stern fan, and for those that don't find him funny, I'd just say that there are MANY more stations on Sirius that play all kinds of great music, so tune it to those and shut up already about this "Stern will lower decency of the net" and all that horseshit, gimme a break and stop being so dramatic, no one cares!
As far as the significance of this for "nerds", I'd say that it has more to do with the likelihood that this is the direction that radio is going much in the way television went from broadcast signals to cable in the late 70's and early 80's. I got Sirius last March (mostly to hear Stern again, since he's been out of our market for a few years). I admit, I was thinking at the time that the music stations would be a nice "extra" but my real motivation was to be able to hear Howard uncensored.
I was astonished at how good some of the music stations are. I bought a $16 receiver off of Ebay and stuck it in my car. I listen to the Internet Streams on my PC at home and at work and I find the selection of music MUCH better than other internet streams. Additionally, I ended up liking the Sirius in my car a lot more than I expected. OK, I'll concede that it's definitely not CD quality, but it's as good as FM. The main differences, of course, are no commercials on music stations, stations don't fade out once you get out of town (great for road trips), and a MUCH larger selection of music. I can't tell you the last time I listened to conventional radio, and I wouldn't mind a bit if I never did again.
Before you put my off as a Stern/Sirius "fan-boy", consider this: when broadband first came out, a lot of people (ok, maybe not geeks) didn't see where it would make a big difference, and stuck with dial-up because they didn't want the added expense and didn't see it as being worth it. No problem, good for them, until the internet evolved and made itself basically unuseable to anything but a broadband connection. I'd contend that this is a real possibility with satellite radio, and if a big radio personality is using his name to start it off, I can see its relevance. Just as a person cannot bring him/herself to go back to dial-up once they're experienced the net on high speed, the same ends up being true with satellite radio...regular radio really sounds crappy afterward.
Just my opinion.
Just yeaserday....10 pages hit....Park lane apartmaent, etc....Putting it in quaotes does not help
Google is not your problem. Your problem is probably that you're misspelling something (or maybe you have no hands and you're typing with your elbows). In that short comment you misspelled 4 different items!
Slashdot Mirror
BEDEVERE:
Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! Quiet! There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.
VILLAGER #1:
Are there?
VILLAGER #2:
Ah?
VILLAGER #1:
What are they?
CROWD:
Tell us! Tell us!...
BEDEVERE:
Tell me. What do you do with witches?
VILLAGER #2:
Burn!
VILLAGER #1:
Burn!
CROWD:
Burn! Burn them up! Burn!...
BEDEVERE:
And what do you burn apart from witches?
VILLAGER #1:
More witches!
Can I finish? Can I finish?..........Ok, I'm finished.
From TFA
The more avid users download the upgrades in between, but of XP users how many downloaded a browser that was more advanced than the one they had? Maybe you and the people you know all did, but most people don't.
Yes, Bill, they do, and that browser's name is Firefox.
From TFA:
Other issues This analysis is limited to the replacement of fuels for ground transportation and electric generation. I include no energy to replace heating fuel, industrial energy consumption or several other types of essentials; some of this demand might be handled with better architecture and cogeneration, but the details are beyond the scope of this analysis. Neither do I consider the wisdom of relying entirely on biomass-derived energy and liquids to replace liquid motor fuel and fossil fuel for electric generation. Reliance on a single source risks all end-uses if the supply is interrupted. This would probably be very unwise indeed, and it appears foolhardy not to add large amounts of e.g. wind generation in the mix. The combination of battery-electric vehicles, wind farms and easily-throttled fuel cells would certainly have a total effect greater than the sum of the parts.
It looks like you and your mouthpiece have forgotten how to read. The "Other Issues" section is about 1/4 down the page. If you disagree with any of the quoted facts in the article, please, enlighten us with facts to the contrary. If, however, this article simply ruffles your feathers by not agreeing with your personal politics, don't try to disguise your Troll as an educated post, it's annoying.
From TFA
"Ensure that one hand grasps development while one hand grasps administration," he concluded.
What the hell does that even mean?
That's actually not all that unusual. Building Automation is definitely taking MAJOR advantage of Wireless Technologies. So, that WAP you saw in the boiler room is probably associated with the Building Automation System and thus very unlikely to be connected to the internet and DEFINITELY not connected to MIT's Intranet.
Wireless solutions are being deployed much more frequently in newer buildings and also in older facilities in lieu of having to replace devices that are depracated and run new wires (both of which can be impractical/impossible/expensive).
I love that they named one of the rocks Stimpy. Though it leave me wondering where Commander Hoek is...perhaps he got the.....SPACE MADNESS!
Who could possibly care about this enough to go through the effort to sign up for something so retarded? If your life is running so short on excitement that your idea of a "thrill" is seeing some hackneyed catchphrase of your choosing displayed over the interstate as you drive by it everyday, you may just need to get out of your parents' basement!
Moreover, imagine the cases of road rage this could inspire. Some douchebag decides to have something offensive/annoying displayed as he/she drives past a billboard EVERY day in bumper to bumper rush hour traffic and some other poor soul who already hates his/her commute has to see the same message if they happen to commute home on the same route at the same time. I can definitely see how someone might snap like Milton after the 10,000th viewing of "Real men drive Fords" or "Know Jesus, know peace....".
Sounds like a dopey idea to me.
...I think it should just produce the music I want to hear when I hammer at it like a retarded orangutang.
That's the tenacious attitude that has provided us with such fabulous "new rock" bands, so please, don't be discouraged. Nevermind that pesky "notes" and "rhythm" stuff, just make sure you wear LOTS of black eyeliner, play a 7-string tuned down a whole tone, and put so much distortion on the vocals that it sounds like a sperm whale with throat cancer and you've got yourself a hit record!!
Or sometimes an "S-trap" depending on the application. You are correct in its designed purpose, but incorrect in its maintenance.
There shouldn't really be a large problem with evaporation provided that there is proper building pressurization/envelope control (remember, changes in building pressure will affect evaporation) and a working Trap Primer system (usually required by Plumbing Code). It is a misconception that floor drains should just "dry out" if the facility is being maintained and was constructed properly. A trap primer operating intermittently to "re-wet" a trap uses a lot less water than even a small trickle from a faucet.
In short, if you're smelling that nasty odor, there's something wrong that requires a fix beyond letting a tap drip, as this merely treats the symptom and not the disease.
Don't let the blowhards get to you. Truth is, I'm still teaching myself Linux. I was first exposed to it years ago when I was pursuing ProSoft's CIW Certification (what a waste of money). Anyway, I was intrigued, but wanted a way to tinker with Linux so I could learn it at my own pace and to a greater degree than was being done in the classroom.
;-)
I, like you, was in a position where I needed a Windows box for a variety of Windows-Only apps I was using, and for a while was quite frustrated as to how I was EVER going to get exposed to Linux beyond just reading books. Then I decided to try "dual boot". I've never looked back. I have no idea why so many supporters of the FOSS community seem to shy away from this idea, but for me, it's great. I have my Windows XP partition where I can run all the Windows only stuff I need, and then I have my Linux partition that I can boot into and do whatever I like to. Since it's just for learning, who cares if I screw it up somehow (although, thus far I haven't done any irreparable damage).
In fact, after a year or so of tinkering on my Linux partition, I got brave enough and upgraded my "main" computer, and made my old desktop a dedicated Linux server. Since I had tinkered around and "learned by doing" on my dual boot system, I didn't feel as much like I was in totally uncharted waters. Thus far, I've been able to set up a successful Web Server, FTP server, and if it weren't for my ISP blocking incoming port 25, I'd have an email server too!
Incidentally, I've learned using Fedora, and I like it. There are a lot of distros out there. Try some. Try a LiveCD to get the basic feel of a few. When you find one you like, install it as a dual boot. Fedora was able to take care of installing "around" my Windows XP Pro system no problem (including the boot loader) so if you're worried that you'll hose your Windows partition, don't be, it's not as big a deal as people make it out to be, just be sure that Windows is on there first (it seems to need to think that it's the only OS on the drive). Come on, join the bandwagon, you sound like a smart and thankfully tenacious person. You'll be glad you jumped on board. I'm still learning where I can, and am by no means at all an expert (hell, I'm barely a novice), but at least I know more than I used to.
Right on, brother. I guess I had that coming! ;->
Lucky for me there are no +1 Moron Who Doesn't Pay Attention Mod Points or I'd have been off the charts.
Ahhhh.....as I suspected....I'm a moron and read too fast.
That's what I get for posting while listening to mind numbing "hold" music on the phone.
Am I missing something? A 2 minute, 125GB movie streamed at 7.5GB/second.
125 / 7.5 = 16.67 seconds.
Was this a 16 - 17 second video? Was it truly "streamed". Maybe I just don't understand something stupid.
I share your disdain for "idiots" and ignorance/intolerance in general. However, there are provisions such as "Mrs. Murphy's Exemption" which allow for legal discrimination under certain circumstances.
Actually, it was their Charlotte, NC SMC (they stopped calling them IMC/IPC's for some reason). Never got to the Plano site, but I agree, it is 1 bad mother.
"Modern Generators" as you call them do not happily sync together under load. If you have PLC Controlled Switchgear associated with them, then you will be able to sync them, and even then they'll never be perfect. If one generator lags and becomes a "slave" it also becomes a load to the "master" generator, thus reducing your available power to the critical load. It's definitely not as simple as just dropping a few generators in a row and wiring them to the same buss, I assure you.
Also, a 1MW generator is pretty large, as is the switchgear and any fuel storage tanks associated with it. As far as the UPS's, true, they will take care of brownouts and frequency errors, but you want the power coming in (either utility or generator) to be as clean as possible so that you're not beating the shit out of your batteries every few minutes to take care of spikes. Batteries do have a shelf life and they're not cheap.
Our datacenter has about 24,000 sq feet of raised floor (not huge by datacenter standards) and we have 2 x 2MegaWatt Generators (as well as redundant utility feeds). To say that 2MW is too much power in this case shows your lack of understanding of what a "MAJOR data center with plenty of redundancy" means.
Prior to working here, I was an engineer at one of the main datacenters for a big Texas based IT provider (think Ross Perot) and their datacenter had over 100,000 sq feet of raised floor. At last count, they were up to 9 750KW generators and badly in need of more.
While we're on it, cooling towers do not provide chilled water, they provide CONDENSER WATER, and I promise you that they would not be able to satisfy your cooling needs in a MAJOR datacenter for 2 hours in the event of a chiller failure.
I can appreciate your being surprised at the power/cooling requirements of a datacenter, but don't let your experience at 1 "datacenter" fool you into thinking you know about all datacenters, as like most things, they are not all created equal. In truth, what is one man's datacenter is another man's "server room".
Yes 2 Megawatts. I work running the engineering department for a major financial provider and our campus has two 2 Megawatt generators dedicated to our datacenter (as well as 2 more for the rest of the campus). We actually have most of the infrastructure in place for a third 2 Megawatt generator as we develop the need for power.
You'd be surprised at how much the average load in KW/sq ft has increased in the last several years for a datacenter. Moore's law is FIRMLY in place and it's getting harder and harder to provide adequate, clean, redundant power in critical environments. Server manufacturers are really upping the ante on power consumption which in turn ups the ante on cooling the space(s).
As for your question "wouldn't it make sense to get two smaller units?" , the short answer is no. Mainly, you'd have to have more electrical components (switchgear, breakers, transfer switches, etc) in order to have more than one, plus you've now got another generator to maintain and you're going to need the physical space for it (and all the gear associated with it which is quite a lot). Add to that all the safety equipment you need (FM-200 fire supression, CO2 fire suppresion, Building Automation monitoring, fuel level/leakage detection) and you get really expensive really quickly.
From TFA:
Acknowledgements Thanks to everyone on the Simmons Rush team that helped with the installation including soldering, duct taping, and cutting. Thanks to Simmons Hall for providing the funding for this project.
While I agree that "overcommercialization" of this would indeed suck, I was thinking of it more in a sponsorship type of income opportunity. You know, getting a PC vendor/LED manufacturer to provide parts at cost, leasing equipment at preferred rates, etc.
If they're really clever, they could sell advertising and offset the cost of adding to the array. I'm betting companies like Intel, AMD, IBM, Dell, etc would be willing to part with a little cash for some display time on a building/billboard at MIT.
So basically it'll be like the SlashDot moderators then? ;-)
They should be very well protected....if they survive the freezing process.
First off, I'll say that I'm absolutely a Stern fan, and for those that don't find him funny, I'd just say that there are MANY more stations on Sirius that play all kinds of great music, so tune it to those and shut up already about this "Stern will lower decency of the net" and all that horseshit, gimme a break and stop being so dramatic, no one cares!
As far as the significance of this for "nerds", I'd say that it has more to do with the likelihood that this is the direction that radio is going much in the way television went from broadcast signals to cable in the late 70's and early 80's. I got Sirius last March (mostly to hear Stern again, since he's been out of our market for a few years). I admit, I was thinking at the time that the music stations would be a nice "extra" but my real motivation was to be able to hear Howard uncensored.
I was astonished at how good some of the music stations are. I bought a $16 receiver off of Ebay and stuck it in my car. I listen to the Internet Streams on my PC at home and at work and I find the selection of music MUCH better than other internet streams. Additionally, I ended up liking the Sirius in my car a lot more than I expected. OK, I'll concede that it's definitely not CD quality, but it's as good as FM. The main differences, of course, are no commercials on music stations, stations don't fade out once you get out of town (great for road trips), and a MUCH larger selection of music. I can't tell you the last time I listened to conventional radio, and I wouldn't mind a bit if I never did again.
Before you put my off as a Stern/Sirius "fan-boy", consider this: when broadband first came out, a lot of people (ok, maybe not geeks) didn't see where it would make a big difference, and stuck with dial-up because they didn't want the added expense and didn't see it as being worth it. No problem, good for them, until the internet evolved and made itself basically unuseable to anything but a broadband connection. I'd contend that this is a real possibility with satellite radio, and if a big radio personality is using his name to start it off, I can see its relevance. Just as a person cannot bring him/herself to go back to dial-up once they're experienced the net on high speed, the same ends up being true with satellite radio...regular radio really sounds crappy afterward. Just my opinion.
Just yeaserday....10 pages hit....Park lane apartmaent, etc. ...Putting it in quaotes does not help
Google is not your problem. Your problem is probably that you're misspelling something (or maybe you have no hands and you're typing with your elbows). In that short comment you misspelled 4 different items!