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Telemarketers Use Emotionally Intelligent Software

eldavojohn writes "There's a new kind of software that's being used more and more. It's software that detects emotion and now it's being used in call centers. It's a $400 million industry according to Forrester Research that relies on volume, pitch and even the words & phrases being used. Are we inadvertently getting closer to software that can understand us by filling the needs of telemarketers who need to know when I'm upset that they just interrupted my dinner?"

176 comments

  1. trust the marketeers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To abuse a fantastic invention like that. Think of all the good uses you could put this to (911 call screening for instance).

    1. Re:trust the marketeers by phallstrom · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I dunno... I did some work for a 911 dispatch training program, part of which involved slicing up a lot of actual calls. What I was working on was for cardiac arrest calls and I found it amazing how calm some callers were.

      "My address is xyz. My husband is lying on the floor not breathing. The front door is open. We are in the bedroom. Please tell me what to do."

      Others of course were hysteric, but not all of them.

    2. Re:trust the marketeers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      good point !

      that reminds me of some of the airplane black box tapes, how amazingly composed those people were, I always attributed it to training, but you are suggesting that 'ordinary' people sometimes do the exact same thing.

      thanks.

      btw, this is Jacquesm posting as ac because I am not at the office and too lazy to figure out how to get to my email :)

    3. Re:trust the marketeers by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      Some people can handle an adrenaline rush, some can't. I was on the highway and saw a car hit the jersey barrier behind me and start rolling at least 3 times before I got around the bend. I still managed to call 911 and tell them where I was, what happened, what I knew of the situation (location, car description, it was behind me so I didn't want to stop and screw up traffic more, etc.), and I still kept driving and didn't cause an accident myself. It depends on the person.

    4. Re:trust the marketeers by Aladrin · · Score: 1

      Some of those 'calm' people are actually so totally freaked out that they went right past panic and on into 'I dunno wtf to do.' It's been drilled into our heads that calling 911 is the thing to do in an emergency, and that's what gets done.

      Don't get me wrong, some of them really are that level-headed in an emergency. But I think you'll find an amazing number will break down afterwards when they'd managed to get back towards normal.

      --
      "If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; But if you really make them think, they'll hate you." - DM
    5. Re:trust the marketeers by markana · · Score: 1

      Panic can be delayed, if the need is great enough. Several years ago, my 5-yo son had a big chunk of his forehead ripped off by a neighbor's dog that got through their fence. Blood everywhere (heads wounds do that). It was serious, but not immediately life-threatening, and an ambulance would take too long. So we applied pressure, bundled him into car, and drove quickly (but safely) the short dstance to the E.R.

      The medical people kept telling us how calm we were, with our bloody child laying on the gurney. Well, we HAD to be. Mindless panic wouldn't have helped him, and could have caused harm to others. You *can* remain in control in stressful situations, with a little discipline.

      Of course, the adrenaline rush wore off a few hours later, and I had a headache for 2 days afterwards... I just hate when that happens.

  2. Please remove me from all lists your company owns by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 2, Funny

    I SAID PLEASE REMOVE ME!

    I said I want to be removed from every single fracking list that your company uses to call people.

    NO I DO NOT WANT TO SUBSCRIBE!

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    liqbase :: faster than paper
  3. They need software to tell them I'm upset? by MECC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As if a telemarketer will need a computer to tell them I'm pissed off when I feed them a stream of obsenities for calling my mobile phone. Oh wait, I guess the retarded telemarketers might need a computer for that. Oh wait, that catagory includes all telemarketers, and the rocket scientists who thought that annoying people was a good way to get them to buy stuff.

    --
    "We are all geniuses when we dream"
    - E.M. Cioran
    1. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful
      No they don't. The headline is bogus.

      Telemarketing == Outbound Call Center
      Customer Service == Inbound Call Center

      Which does this sound like:

      Health insurer Wisconsin Physicians Service, for example, uses the technology to scan automated phone calls for "Medicare" and "confused" to find calls from seniors with Medicare questions.


      And this?

      Roger Woolley, vice president of marketing for speech analytic software seller eTalk, of Irving, Texas, said subtler systems are used to identify when an angry customer is preparing to cancel services.


      I think a telemarketer can judge for himself whether or not you're upset. (And promptly ignore you.) This system is intended for support calls, where the customer service rep might not realize that they need to take action to prevent the loss of your business. Presumably, the system would automatically flag a manager if it calcualted that the customer was getting frustrated.

      Considering the number of inexperienced customer service reps that companies employ, it's probably not a bad idea. Especially since it's currently difficult to auto-route "easy" vs. "hard" calls between the experienced and inexperienced employees.

      Editors: Can we change the headline?
    2. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by curecollector · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was about to post the exact same thing, and then got to thinking that perhaps they're not screening for angry repsonses, but rather those that may come across as "vulnerable". Most telemarketers I've spoken with (either commercial or for charity) have been akin to dealing with a strange and dangerous animal - in other words, they can smell fear (or rather, indecisiveness, malleability, etc.).

    3. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful
      rocket scientists who thought that annoying people was a good way to get them to buy stuff.

      They wouldn't do it if it didn't make money.

      Annoying people apparently is a good way to get them to buy stuff.

      My understanding is that they primarily pray on lonely old shut-ins, that's their bread and butter. These people are so desperate to talk to someone that they will buy your shit just to keep the conversation going a little while.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    4. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      As if a telemarketer will need a computer to tell them I'm pissed off when I feed them a stream of obsenities for calling my mobile phone.


      Kinda reminds me of Trish in "The 40 Year Old Virgin"....

      Trish: Who is this?

      Andy: This is James.

      Trish: James. Do I know you, James?

      Andy: I was wondering whether you had a few minutes... to talk about a little laundry detergent.

      Trish: Are you a telemarketer, James?

      Andy: Yep.

      Trish: Are you at the top of a tall building?
      Can you get to a roof quickly? Jump off!
      I mean, you people are sick.
      Get a real fucking job, why don't you?
      Go shoot yourself in the fucking head!
      Hey, why don't you just, you know, get a knife and run into it?
      Why don't you do that, huh?
      Okay. I'll see you later, James.
      Nice to talk to you. Fuck your mother, okay?
      Bye-bye.

    5. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by danpsmith · · Score: 1
      Oh wait, I guess the retarded telemarketers might need a computer for that. Oh wait, that catagory includes all telemarketers, and the rocket scientists who thought that annoying people was a good way to get them to buy stuff.

      Make no doubt about it, telemarketing does, at least to some extent, work. It might not work on the 20-30 something IT crowd, but it certainly has benefits for a company. And this software might do what it promises and make it more effective.

      I find it particularly sick that it's allowed to be legal even to be quite honest. I suppose it's a form of free speech or something but the fact remains that telemarketers typically prey on the worst victims: those who have been so influenced by our consumer marketed culture that they'll buy just about anything from anyone just to get a quick fix and lonely people who are looking, above all else, for someone to talk to about anything, even if it's about emptying their own bank accounts to the nice sounding girl on the other end.

      They prey on the very same people they create: the desperate lifestyle questing consumer and the isolated consumer. It's sick.

      --
      Judges and senates have been bought for gold; Esteem and love were never to be sold.
    6. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 4, Funny

      >Customer Service == Inbound Call Center

      Me: I've been on hold for 49 minutes, and you're the third unhelpful person I've talked to. You fucked up my order, and it's been a month since you promised to fix it. No! I don't want to place a new order. I WANT YOU LYING SHIT-WEASELS TO DO WHAT YOU PROMISED THREE MONTHS AGO. I've already told fifty people at work what rat-bastards you are, posted a 5000 word screed on your perverted business practices to 13 business related blogs, and I'm getting ready to tell the Taliban that your compnay is a front for an Israeli arms manufacturer.

      Them: Sir, the software on my computer is informing me that you are beginning to be upset with my fine employer. Let me put you on hold while I see if I can't find someone to help you place a new order.

      --
      Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
    7. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by nizo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have mental visual aids to help deal with telemarketers. Whenever I get a call from a telemarketer I automatically picture some guy beating baby seals to death. Not only does this keep me from falling for their scams, but they usually stop calling after hearing me scream, "stop beating them to death!" at the top of my lungs.

    8. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Editors: Can we change the headline?

      That's what dupes are for.

    9. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by Alef · · Score: 3, Interesting
      This system is intended for support calls, where the customer service rep might not realize that they need to take action to prevent the loss of your business. Presumably, the system would automatically flag a manager if it calcualted that the customer was getting frustrated.

      So, essentially, the more frustrated and angry you sound, the better support you'll get...?

    10. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by pete6677 · · Score: 1

      Considering the average callcenter employee has the intelligence of a retarded monkey, incapable of doing more than reading a script, software like this is probably necessary.

    11. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by SevenHands · · Score: 1

      That so sounds like calls I used to receive when I was supporting a certain company's home PCs. Ahh, fond memories. A few times I had to put them on hold just because I couldn't contain my laughter. However, I did feel bad about the shit some of the the callers had to go through. But then again, they bought a PC manufactured by this certain company. Anybody guess which company this is?

    12. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing that it either rhymed with "Hell" or started with a lowercase 'e'. Am I close?

    13. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by winomonkey · · Score: 3, Informative

      I hate to break it to you, but telemarketing is based upon the solid business case that it does in fact work. Companies would not be engaging in telemarketing if it weren't for the fact that it has a decent ROI when compared to other wide-reaching marketing campaigns. This article, while definitely not the most recent one out there, speaks of the 5-15% success rate.

      As annoying as we find SPAM (both the food and the email), telemarketers, and mass mailings, they do show a return on the marketing investment. Yes, some people are turned away from the product or service because of the annoyance, but plenty of others buy into it to keep this machine running.

      One of the best ways to hurt their bottom line is to eat up their time, so that they waste valuable time trying to convince you (or your baby daughter, or your drunk dorm buddies, or your shoutboard, or your own hold music) that the sale is worth it. If their returns dropped low enough, they would stop doing it as it became an ineffective business model.

      Not that I have the patience to do that more than once a or twice a month.

      Or you could use the following:
      I present to you the number for your free annual credit report-
      1-877-322-8228

      The number to stop receiving pre-approved credit card offers and other junk mail-
      1-888-567-8688

      And the number to stop receiving solicitations telemarketers-
      1-888-382-1222

    14. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 2, Interesting
      ...I WANT YOU LYING SHIT-WEASELS


      In the Technical support call center I worked in nearly 10 years ago, we had a button on the phone that would be pressed as soon as the caller became abusive. The call immediately was dumped to a special recording queue, priority attention from supervisor, and disconnected. Further contact from that customer would go directly to our Legal department. At that point they would no longer be permitted to talk to support personel.

      I doubt companies are that protective of their trained support techs (hell I doubt they're as highly trained in most companies anymore, all our support near me is well above "first line" type support) anymore.

      I'm actually guessing that part of the need for this software is that many first-line types are not only overseas in India or the like, their understanding of English is recent enough that they don't have a grasp of the cues that a native speaker would pick up on long before the software was necessary.

      Thank %DIETY% I'm not in Support anymore
      --
      "Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm fucked."; ~ Donald J. Trump
    15. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by SevenHands · · Score: 1

      Strike one. But good guess. That's what I'd have said first.

    16. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by SuperMog2002 · · Score: 1

      Does it share an acronym with hit points and horse power?

      --
      Sunwalker Dezco for Warchief in 2016
    17. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by internewt · · Score: 1

      ...I WANT YOU LYING SHIT-WEASELS

      ...Further contact from that customer would go directly to our Legal department.

      Sounds fair to me... If I ring up a company and ask to speak to the lawyers, not matter what name I use for them I do expect to be put through. I like the way your former employer clearly then set a "default" department for the caller, and so didn't jerk the customer around every time they rang in the future.

      ;)
      --
      Car analogies break down.
    18. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by Gojira+Shipi-Taro · · Score: 1

      They're still my current employer. The implication (and fact) was that the company would take legal action against anyone who engaged in abusive behavior towards the support personel.

      Newsflash: If you talk like that on the phone, the FCC, given a complaint, can forbid you from using a phone in the future. Radio hosts and prank calls notwithstanding.

      It's not defensable behavior if you initiated the call (as in you called support). If you're cursing a telemarketer, that's a different story. They called you.

      --
      "Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm fucked."; ~ Donald J. Trump
    19. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by rts008 · · Score: 1

      LOL! Good job. I would have expected insightful instead of funny, but funny it was.

      Clippy: I see that you are becoming upset, do you want to:
                      a. Terminate this call?
                      b. Terminate the order?
                      c. Nuke the Call Cente......FATAL EXCEPTION!!!!....NO CARRIE..

      --
      Down With Slashdot BETA!!! I've been around the corner and seen the oliphant; you can only abuse me from your perspecti
    20. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm guessing that it either rhymed with "Hell" or started with a lowercase 'e'. Am I close?

      Since when did Dell employ support staff who are adequately fluent in English?

    21. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by rts008 · · Score: 1

      Nice post-if I had mod points I would have used them instead of replying.
      Good job listing the ph#'s, and the succinct but informative message with link.

      Personally, I don't want bothered by telemarketing. I understand that it works enough to use, but it does not work with someone like me.

      I have no credit/debit cards, no bank accounts, pretty much a cash only way of life. (got burned bad in a divorce way back- my own fault-but still gunshy) If I don't have the cash to afford something, I wait until I do. Yes, sometimes it is a PITA, but overall it has worked well for me.

      As far as telemarketing goes, it is a waste of time with me. I know it, and wish they would know it.
      The national (and my state's) Do Not Call Lists have been great, just wish there were more restrictions with them- still get survey/ poll type calls.
      For these, their software will make no difference, as I handle them all the same:
      "No thank you whatever it is, and take me off of your call list." ,then I hang up without giving them a chance to respond.

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      Down With Slashdot BETA!!! I've been around the corner and seen the oliphant; you can only abuse me from your perspecti
    22. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by soft_guy · · Score: 1

      I sat on a jury where a guy was being criminally prosecuted for telephone harassment for a call he didn't initiate.

      --
      Avoid Missing Ball for High Score
    23. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by johansalk · · Score: 1

      Well, annoying people must be a good way to get them to buy stuff otherwise we wouldn't be seeing this explosion in telemarketing.

    24. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by iamcf13 · · Score: 1

      Take your approach one step further if you can like I do now....

      Only use you (cell) phone for OUTGOING calls only and leave it unplugged or off at all other times.

      No more telemarketers AT ALL!

      But then you have to use a 'Don't call me, I'll call you' call model.

      And it may be a safety hazard if you have to make a call RIGHT NOW in the event of an emergency.

      And should the telemarketers call your voice mail (by accident) then their messages will clog your inbox until you can delete them.

      Oh well....

    25. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      I do almost the same thing with any message from politicians.

      A sign, a TV ad, a mailer, a phone call, doesn't matter. I just imagine them eating live kittens.

      --
      If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
    26. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      No shit.

      When a telemarketer calls, you have a choice to make.

      You can take the easy way out, and just hang up on them. And you probably don't give to charity either.

      Or, if you have some free time, you can donate to charity by completely and utterly waste their time so they don't get around to bother other people, and you can make the call a living hell, driving up wages and making the entire industry unprofitable. (It's too hard to try to do both of those at once.)

      Charitable people of the world, unite. Stay off the Do Not Call List. That's like putting a fake burglary alarm sticker in your window so you won't get robbed. It's much better to stop these people than to redirect them to other people. Put as many vulnerable people as possible on the DNC, and have as many people willing to fight them stay off the list to protect the people they're preying on who didn't make it.

      You can even do things to volunteer yourself. Years ago, I made up a fake address in response to a mortgage spam. I still get calls from morons who purchase those leads. I jerk them around for weeks.

      (Mortgage spam, in case anyone thinks I'm being too harsh on poor innocent mortgage companies who possibly bought the leaders from a spammer without knowing...well, mortgage spam is one of the few kinds of spam that has always been illegal in every state, due to preditory leading laws that control advertising of mortgages. They are required by law to keep track of every single ad. Banks know damn well the laws about advertising mortgages, and getting leads from someone without finding out what and how they ran ads is not believable, or, in fact, legal.)

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      If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
    27. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 1

      I have a button on my phone that dumps the caller to an endless loop recording of the twenty four most interesting sounds that ever come out of my ass. Well okay, there is a button on the tape player that I toss the phone next to. Come back a few hours later an they usually have gotten the message an headed off to greener pastures. Works great on telemarketers, charity collections, and legal personal looking for my ex Bitch. Great ice breaker at parties too.

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      Supporting World Peace Through Nuclear Pacification

    28. Re:They need software to tell them I'm upset? by SonicSpike · · Score: 1

      An in-bound call center for sales purposes is still considered 'telemarketing'. Essentially, it is marketing over the telephone. In-bound support calls are called customer service which is not really telemarketing.

      Yes, my minor was in marketing.

      --
      Libertas in infinitum
  4. ...is this even possible? by jimfinity · · Score: 1

    i submit this as a counter argument: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf77SRhPUvo

    1. Re:...is this even possible? by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      Actually, just because it can't make sense of the actual words, it can certainly tell that its being shouted and clipping lots.

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      liqbase :: faster than paper
  5. Dinner? What's that? by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 3, Funny
    ...telemarketers who need to know when I'm upset that they just interrupted my dinner?"
    I thought this forum was for IT workers. IT workers NEVER make it home in time for dinner.
  6. Obvious mappings by Goblez · · Score: 3, Funny
    If ( customer.words.contains( "Sh*t, F*ck, Damn, Hell){

    return SELL_MORE;

    }

    Still skewed by the people motivating it.

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    - Kal`Goblez
    1. Re:Obvious mappings by crunch_ca · · Score: 1

      I think there was a bug in your code... if (true) { return CUSTOMER_PISSED_OFF; }

    2. Re:Obvious mappings by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't using the word customer in this situation be a little misleading? If they are so pissed off, why are they your customer.

      --

      Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
    3. Re:Obvious mappings by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1
      AOL's customer service emotion detection softare:

      Do forever:

      If

      "How many times do I have to tell you I want to cancel your f*sking SERVICES, you foreign asshat? Can't you speak ENGLISH?"

      then

      Offer to give them 3 more month for free if they stay

    4. Re:Obvious mappings by Drachemorder · · Score: 1
      My company actually did something similar to this. I think it was something of a lark, though, not really meant to be a serious production feature. We were developing a natual-language speech recognition IVR system. The boss called the test line to see how the project was going. The demo app simulated a banking system, so the computer said "Please state your request in natural English", yadda yadda yadda. So my boss says, "I'd like my checking balance, please." The computer said, "I didn't understand, please repeat that." The boss repeats his request, and again the computer didn't understand it. So the boss says, "I want my G*D D*MN checking balance!"

      The computer said, "Well, you're not going to get it that way," and hung up on him.

  7. The Future by gt_mattex · · Score: 2, Funny

    Telemarketing conversations of the future:

    Excuse me sir, would you be interested in..

    I'm trying to eat dinner! Remove my number from your..

    Thank you for your interest, if I may just have your social security number..

    --
    "No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture." - Learned Hand
    1. Re:The Future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you for your interest, if I may just have your social security number..

      Chances are they already have it. As well as the names of the other people in your household, your level of income, the kind of car you drive, your credit history, and your insurance "risk level", etc. etc.

    2. Re:The Future by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1
      Lately I've been getting a lot of recorded "You have just been selected to win a chance to buy a new yacht!" type messages. Since I'm on the DNC list, these are highly illegal, but there's no way for me to provide any feedback to the campanies doing this, and I can't be bothered to report them (yet). So, I'd say your Future is Now.

      Then again, the article is actually about telephone service centres, not telemarketing... and I like the companies that have implemented these systems, since I just have to sound on the verge of boiling over and I get transferred to a live operator.

    3. Re:The Future by networkBoy · · Score: 1

      You know I've often wondered if you could have an out going message that informed the seller that your time to listen to their pitch was worth $1.10 per second. Could you enforce that once they said whatever, here's my pitch &&|| if it was a recording that started?
      -nB

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    4. Re:the future by anubi · · Score: 1
      May I suggest the Telecrapper 2000 telephone answering system that has been discussed on Slashdot before?

      Personally, I have my phone programmed NOT to ring on "private caller" and "unknown caller".

      My friends know not to call me using cloaks.

      The telemarketers don't.

      Personally, I feel the phone ringing with the words "Private Call" flashing in the window has just about as much tact as me donning a ski mask, emblazoned "private caller", and wearing it while ringing someone's doorbell.

      Would I really expect them to open the door?

      Its amazing to me how many businesses cower behind anonymity when calling. And they have the idea I will be receptive? I just have to chalk such callous behaviour to what passes for eductation in todays business curriculums.

      Yea - maybe flamebait to an MBA who just paid dearly for his pedigree, but I have taken marketing classes too and became quite emotionally charged from it ... a mixture of anger and distrust at the psychological tactics suggested. Such game-playing usually does nothing but make me furious.

      --
      "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." [KJV: I Thessalonians 5:21]

  8. Who knows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    maybe they are selling the "bash a tele-marketer" brand baseball bat and need to know if you prefer wooden or metal?

  9. emotionally intelligent software by 56ker · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Does anyone else see the irony and humour in the article finishing with the line: "said subtler systems are used to identify when an angry customer is preparing to cancel services." - followed by a related headline of "liquid explosives detection device created" *grins* As if the people getting frustrated at wanting to cancel will resort to more extreme methods. *grins*

  10. Let's see what it makes of... by Channard · · Score: 1

    .. me seeing 'international call' on my caller ID and answering with the throaty noise that dead chick from The Grudge makes.

  11. Re:Dinner? What's that? by 10e6Steve · · Score: 1

    Ramen noodles...but what flavor?

  12. Software to detect telemarketers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I will soon have software that detects these software enhanced telemarketers and carries on a conversation with them. Since eventually telemarketers themselves will be bots, I may as well adapt to this trend.
    I think this is a fine way to pay my bills, find out if there are any offers I may actually be interested in.

    How soon before bots do all the hard repetitious work and humans get to do more exciting jobs?

    Only thing is once the bots take all the jobs, will they suddenly demand higher wages and then try to rip us off when humans apply for jobs by protesting that humans are taking their jobs away.

    1. Re:Software to detect telemarketers by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Right, then we darken the skies and inadvertently create a franchise that will employ a shitload of CG artists for several years.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    2. Re:Software to detect telemarketers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How soon before bots do all the hard repetitious work and humans get to do more exciting jobs?

      The problem with that utopia is that a large section of the human population is incapabble of performing anything but the hard repetitious work. What will they do when those jobs are automated? Whither away and die? Hardly.

  13. the future by Phantom+of+the+Opera · · Score: 4, Funny

    automated telemarketer calls Phantom

    *ring ring*

    automatic secretary picks it up
    "Hello, this is Phantom's answering service."

    "I'd like to talk to Phantom."

    "He's not in right now, may I take a message."

    "This is QRX credit card services.."

    answering service cuts off "He does *not* need another credit card"

    "M'am, I can tell you are getting upset right now, but this is a really good deal."

    "Cut the crap; NO!"

    "Well, maybe you need some credit. He treat you well enough? Maybe we could keep that between the two of us.."

    "tell me more..."

  14. Telemarketers? by gstoddart · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I read two of the links, and nowhere did it actually mention telemarketers. It seemed to indicate it was more related to customer contact things where the customer is calling about their service, and getting frustrated with the voicemail maze or the person on the phone with them. Like when you're calling your cable or phone company.

    While we all hate telemarketers here on Slashdot, I'm not convinced either of the stories is referring to them particularly.

    Cheers

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    1. Re:Telemarketers? by Lxy · · Score: 2, Funny

      I haven't tested this, but I've been told if you call Charter's main support number and drop the F-bomb you're immediately routed to tech support.

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    2. Re:Telemarketers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      As I work for the company i can tell you that is false

    3. Re:Telemarketers? by Wellington+Grey · · Score: 1
      t seemed to indicate it was more related to customer contact things where the customer is calling about their service, and getting frustrated with the voicemail maze


      So will they have the system minimize frustration or maximize it to get you off the phone faster?

      -Grey
    4. Re:Telemarketers? by gstoddart · · Score: 1
      So will they have the system minimize frustration or maximize it to get you off the phone faster?

      I would hope the former, but I guess that depends on the company.

      Don't know if you've ever been confronted with one of those evil, broken, and annoying systems whereby you have to tell the system what you're looking for. Invariably, it understands only a few options, and drives you around in circles since it can't decide what you might want. I've hit a few of them.

      You eventually get frustrated with the 'automated self help system' which is more like an Eliza program gone horribly wrong. Presumably, this is to detect when a customer is losing his mind because the software is doing the opposite of helping, and then direct you to a useful human as soon as possible.

      I'm sure some annoying idiots will decide that cranky people need to get hung up on more quickly, but at least some companies will be more concerned about losing the business.

      Cheers
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    5. Re:Telemarketers? by pherthyl · · Score: 3, Funny

      I don't know about Charter, but I do know that MSP (Medical Services Plan in canada) does this. For 15 minutes I tried to wrestle with the voice activated menus they have, and absolutely could not figure out how to speak to a representative. Well eventually I just got pissed and started swearing at the thing. It paused for a while, then said "Ok, a representative, one moment please"

      Best. system. ever. :)

    6. Re:Telemarketers? by letxa2000 · · Score: 1

      United Airlines is bad too. I had to go through their stupid automated system that kept misunderstanding what I was saying. I was about to rejoice when it told me it was sending me through to a live rep, until the damn rep was someone in India who couldn't understand me any better than the machine. I felt entirely helpless as I tried to make a change to my ticket.

      UAL: Get a clue. If I run into another situation where I can't talk to an American customer service rep when I need one, I'm going to stop flying your airline.

  15. Four words: by zaren · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Do.

    Not.

    Call.

    List.

    I put my number on the national list as soon as it came out, and we get ZERO calls now, and haven't for at least a year. The few that called before the list got widely distributed were politely told to put me on their list. I've had no problems, no dinner time calls, nothing. It really does work.

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    1. Re:Four words: by mbowles · · Score: 1

      Exactly! Between 'Do Not Call Lists' and Caller-ID who gets or answers telemarketing calls anymore?

    2. Re:Four words: by dedazo · · Score: 1
      It does but I do still get annoyed by the companies with which I have a relationship. The other day I got a call from "Satarmanapaya" or something regarding one of my credit card companies' EXCELLENT CREDIT MONITORING SERVICE, which I have no use for since I already get that from someone else. Aside from the near-unintelligible way of speaking, they are indoctrinated to follow their damn script to the letter so they just talk and talk before you can say "I'm not interested". And then they go through the motions on why theirs is so much better than the one you have and canisendyouthepaperworksirplease.

      More often than not I'm tempted to just friggin' hang up but then I think that's just a guy probably working on comission trying to make a living and I really don't want to be rude. But they are fucking annoying.

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    3. Re:Four words: by pete6677 · · Score: 1

      If you want to be rude, just keep them on the phone for half an hour and kill their call time averages. This will likely get them fired if it happens too often. If you want to be nice to the stooge, who probably doesn't really want to be working there anyway, just hang up and the computer will then connect him to the next victim it has already dialed up. There's a difference between hanging up on a human being and hanging up on a computerized telemarketing center.

  16. It's not for telemarketers... by NineNine · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... it's for the damned Indians that American company managers seem to think are a good replacement for American people. I swear, they speak perfect English, but I can repeat myself 10 times in a very clear, understandable way to Indian call takers, and it just doesn't register with them.

    Specific case: I use Miva Merchant. All of their support is Indian. I called with a technical problem (where are the instructions for this section of software), and I ended up giving up because none of the Indians could understand what I was talking about. I even asked a few of them if they knew what "Miva Merchant" was because I would ask them about this, and it wasn't in their script, so they had no idea how to handle it. I tell ya'... the English is there, but the brains aren't. So maybe this new software could help them. More importantly, maybe it will help ME get my problems solved!

    1. Re:It's not for telemarketers... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      swear, they speak perfect English, but I can repeat myself 10 times in a very clear, understandable way to Indian call takers, and it just doesn't register with them.

      They probably don't actually know English.

      They likely just memorized how to recite all the English words in their script, in order, and how to recognize a few key words that indicate which section of their script to recite next. It's how Abba learned the words to all their English songs.

      It's NOT the same thing as "speaking perfect English".

    2. Re:It's not for telemarketers... by businessnerd · · Score: 1

      While the do not call list is amazing, it's the loopholes to the do not call list that can be really annoying. Politicians are exempt. A while back during the New Jersey gubinatorial (please excuse my spelling) primary, my family and I went on vacation the week leading up to election day. When we returned, we had 18 messages on our answering machine. All but 2 of these messages were from politicians. We had at least five alone from Doug Forrester's mother (His mother! WTF!?). All were recordings and most of them repeated. Luckily, we were gone during all of this and were able to be amused by the answering machine (although that wore thin after Mrs. Forrester's 3rd message). If we were around, the phone ringing constantly would have been a nightmare. 18 might not seem like much for a weeks worth of phone calls, but remember, these were only the recordings that are told to leave messages. Who knows how many humans actually called reminding us to vote or asking for us to participate in a survey that gave up when there was no answer.

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    3. Re:It's not for telemarketers... by raduf · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's not the indians, it's their managers. They could have been eschimos for all you care and if nobody gave them a piece of info they don't have it.
      Now if you said that setups in india are designed to be cheap and do one thing only as simple as possible, disregarding complications... you'd have a case.

    4. Re:It's not for telemarketers... by Digicrat · · Score: 1

      The funniest thing though is when the machines leaves messages without realizing they are talking to a machine. I've had countless messages where it had already started talking, and other times where it is telling the machine "please press or say 1 to speak to a customer service representative, . . . "

      Campaign messages are equally as bad, but at least the many (not all) of those are either smart enough not to leave a message, or short enough so that all you hear "so that's why you should vote for XYZ. Thanks you. ."

      Most of the time, I don't even pick up the landline phone during the day, since 90% of the calls are telemarketers, and anyone else would leave a message [I must be one of the few people left without caller ID on their landline . . . ]

  17. Caller ID by P3NIS_CLEAVER · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Seriously though, does anyone pick up the phone any more if you don't recognize the number?

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    1. Re:Caller ID by dcclark · · Score: 1, Informative

      My parents live in rural central Michigan and still have a pulse line, as do many of their neighbors. They couldn't *get* caller ID if they wanted it. If they get a call during dinnertime, they can either guess about the intent, or just pick it up (and probably talk to the relative on the other end...). There are a surprising number of people in the same situation as them.

    2. Re:Caller ID by SpiceWare · · Score: 1

      My parents live in Mexico. Calls from them don't show a number.

      I've taken using the answering machine to screen calls.

    3. Re:Caller ID by maxume · · Score: 1

      My mom also had a phoneline in rural, central Michigan that she thought was pulse only. I got sick of it and called the phone company, and they stopped rebating her for not having touch tone dialing and turned it on. Unless your parents have actively tried to get touch tone dialing in the last 15 years, there is a good chance that they/you are simply misinformed about support for touch tone and other phone services.

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    4. Re:Caller ID by dcclark · · Score: 1

      Yes, they *could* get a touchtone line (and therefore Caller ID), but they would have to pay more for it. As far as my 60-year-old parents are concerned, it's not worth it.

      It's not unlike getting cable. They *could*, but it would cost more and they don't really need it.

    5. Re:Caller ID by maxume · · Score: 1

      You said "They couldn't *get* caller ID if they wanted it."; I guess I have different ideas about what 'couldn't', 'get' and 'wanted' mean than you do.

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    6. Re:Caller ID by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 1

      I've taken using the answering machine to screen calls.

      Somebody ought to invent a way to listen in on voice-mail when it is being left on your cell-phone so you could do the same thing with the modern technology.

  18. Abusing Telemarketers by miyako · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm not sure how we can use this new technology to further abuse telemarketers, but I have faith that the geeks of the world will find a way!
    Personally, I think it would be useful to simply confuse the software by saying horrible things in honeyed tones. Especially things that use phrases that the programmers probably wouldn't have thought to include in the code to detect annoyance. "Sure, you can tell me about your companies products, after I force you to watch as I bathe in your offsprings viscera".
    You know, ever since I dropped my land line and just stick with a cell phone, I kind of miss having telemarketers to abuse...guess I'll just stick to abusing spammers.

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  19. It's a only for call centers... by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 1

    The last thing we need is a nuclear bomb with emotional software out of wanting to commit suicide.

  20. "Emotionally intelligent" ... by kclittle · · Score: 2, Funny

    one of the truly great oxymorons...

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  21. NO! No SOUP for YOU! by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

    NO! No SOUP for YOU!

  22. Interrupting dinner... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ... when I'm upset that they just interrupted my dinner.
    Where do you get dinners that make you feel like that?
  23. Where does it say telemarketers? by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Informative

    I don't see anywhere that mentions telemarketers at all (except in the "summary"). The article only mentions call centers, which are more likely to be customer service centers than someone trying to sell you carpet cleaning.

    This could potentially be a good thing for the public. If you could measure how upset people get by certain people, then you could fire the ones that make people the most upset. Of course this could also lead to other problems as the goal of support is to solve peoples problems, not make them feel nice.

    It could also be a bad thing. Imagine if your called up customer service a few times in a bad mood, and the system flags you as a problem child (or maybe you're just a false positive as it isn't perfect). You then always get treated like you're a jerk.

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  24. Better Article - Washington Post by Stanistani · · Score: 3, Informative
  25. Reminds me of Cynthia Breazeal's work by GuyMannDude · · Score: 1

    I read two of the links, and nowhere did it actually mention telemarketers. It seemed to indicate it was more related to customer contact things where the customer is calling about their service, and getting frustrated with the voicemail maze or the person on the phone with them.

    Yeah, as usual the summary was completely misleading. Some jackass felt the need to add his two cents. Why the editors accept submissions like this while rejecting scores of others, I'll never know.

    But getting back on topic, my first thought upon reading the article was remembering Cynthia Breazeal's work (who says girl geeks can't be scalding hot?) at MIT on developing robots that can interact with humans on an emotional level, like her Kismet robot. The idea is that providing robots with the ability to perceive and project emotions will improve the interaction between humans and machines. There's a great deal of interest in improving the man-machine interface as computers become a much more important part of our lives.

    GMD

    1. Re:Reminds me of Cynthia Breazeal's work by charlesnw · · Score: 1

      I don't know about her being scalding hot. Maybe you have low expectations or just aren't as picky as I am. I mean sure she is cute but not drop-dead i-gotta-have-her-right-here-right-now. I guess I have really high expecations/demands.

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    2. Re:Reminds me of Cynthia Breazeal's work by rickwood · · Score: 1
      Why the editors accept submissions like this while rejecting scores of others, I'll never know.
      GMD, you're one of my main men and I always love to read your comments. But you're smarter than that, man:

      Controversy = More Comments
      More Comments = More Page Views
      More Page Views = More Money
      More Money = More Dope
      More Dope = More misleading summaries submitted by jackasses who need to add their two cents accepted

      As far as scanning for emotional content in phone calls, I'd be happy if they could just program the thing to 1) provide a meaningful caller id (I'm so tired of "800-000-0000") and 2) understand the phrase "Add this number to your do not call list." I can see where using software like this in a customer service situation could be useful. Just how long will it be until some unscrupulous telemarketer gets a hold of it and uses it to prey upon the weak and lonely in an even more systematic manner?
  26. Even so... by theheff · · Score: 4, Funny

    It will never be able to detect sarcasm.

    1. Re:Even so... by Critical+Facilities · · Score: 2, Funny

      So basically it'll be like the SlashDot moderators then? ;-)

    2. Re:Even so... by xoyoyo · · Score: 1

      For sure it will.

    3. Re:Even so... by Omkar · · Score: 1

      Like that would ever be useful.

  27. Re:Please remove me from all lists your company ow by WilliamSChips · · Score: 4, Funny

    Computer: ADD LiquidCooled TO EVERY LIST

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  28. Never get annoying calls again by ThePopeLayton · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The greatest way to avoid getting annoying telemarketing calls during dinner is to never answer the phone during dinner!

  29. expensive crap software by taustin · · Score: 1

    They spent $400 million dollars for this:

    10 PRINT "Customer is annoyed"

    20 GOTO 10

    1. Re:expensive crap software by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think it was more like this:

      10 PRINT "Attempt to sell service"
      20 INPUT I$
      30 REM IF I$="Customer is annoyed" THEN PRINT "Terminate call quickly"
      40 GOTO 10

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  30. [warning type='psychotic nutjob' /] by tinkerghost · · Score: 1

    I could have used that notice when I did customer service.

  31. The new fuzzing tools. by FFFFHALTFFFF · · Score: 2, Funny

    Are there chances to cause buffer overflows using low level words?

  32. Re:Please remove me from all lists your company ow by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 5, Funny

    ERROR Please speak clearly.
    Could not compute "Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all"

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  33. Entertainment by crabpeople · · Score: 3, Funny

    But then how will we be able to hear quality calls such as this one?

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  34. Pointy-headed boss market. by colfer · · Score: 1

    You can sell it to a pointy-headed boss but it will not make the pointy headed boss's company any better in the long run.

  35. Mirror by Wellington+Grey · · Score: 2, Funny

    So will the telemarketers turn this emotional software on themselves?

    Output:
    Subject: Telemarketer
    Aparent Emotion State: Cheerful
    Real Emotional State: Depressed and soul crushed.


    -Grey

  36. No need to worry... by Shadow+Wrought · · Score: 1

    Unless your a Replicant.

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    1. Re:No need to worry... by Dachannien · · Score: 1

      Beth: Tyrell Corporation Customer Service. "More human than human." This is Beth, how can I help you?
      Roy: Uh, yes, I'm a Nexus-6 model replicant. I'm having problems with my lifespan.
      Beth: What sort of problems, sir?
      Roy: I've got less than two months to live because of this crazy cutoff date I just found out about.
      Beth: Okay, I'll need your serial number and incept date.
      Roy: Damn, it's around here somewhere... uh... N6MAA13-- I mean, 10816. Incept date is 8 January 2016.
      Beth: Let me look that up for you, sir.... Ah, okay. Sir, have you tried using the antidote?
      Roy: Antidote? What antidote?!
      Beth: It should have been included with your original packing material.
      Roy: But I threw all that out ages ago!
      Beth: Hmm.... Well, sir, you're within the four-year limited warranty period, so I can send you a replacement antidote. You'll need to wait eight to twelve weeks for delivery.
      Roy: Eight to twe-- but I'll be dead in under two months!
      Beth: I'm sorry, sir, we can't expedite shipping of warranty replacement parts.
      Roy: ...I'm going to go speak to your boss about this. In person.

  37. Dark Star by arthurpaliden · · Score: 1

    Dark Star. Trying to talk the bomb down.

    1. Re:Dark Star by NormalVisual · · Score: 1

      "Let there be light."

      Great flick, if you're into the kitschy 70's sci-fi like me.

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  38. My Personal Telemarketer Script by cgreuter · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Telemarketer: Hi, I'm calling from $COMPANY to offer you $DEAL.

    me: I'm not interested.

    Telemarketer: May I ask why?

    me: Because they're using telemarketing to try to sell to me.

    Telemarketer: $LAME_EXCUSE. Goodbye.

    I don't see how emotion analyzing software is gonne get them out of that.

  39. Forrester Research...? by MS-06FZ · · Score: 1

    Is this the same Forrester Research that submitted all those proposals to use an orbiting space station as a closed environment for experimentation on human subjects, and presented "inventions" like the "double butt graft" and the "Cheese phone"? I don't know that I'd want to rely on their products...

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    1. Re:Forrester Research...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're thinking of Deep 13, an offshoot of the Gizmonics Institute.

      - a regular guy in a red jump suit

  40. $400 million by drgonzo59 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    They invested $400 million in an emotional analysis program using pitch, loudness and so on.

    So next time they call start smiling and in a soft polite voice say "FUCK YOU" and hang up.

  41. Re:Dinner? What's that? by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    Isn't Dinner at 9:30 every morning, after the nightly backup?

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  42. Re:Four words: my rant by rubycodez · · Score: 1

    I have wonderful news for you (NOT!). The telemarketers are now using outsourced call centers that come in under a legit U.S. phone number. And they ignore do-not-call. My cell phone has been getting alot of these the past month. Now I turn in the number to the do-not-call complaint page, and also the fcc's complaint page, but of course they use that data to fill database to be used against bad offenders as manpower allows, and not action on individual complaints. And the other maddening thing is that the major cell phone carriers blocking services won't block out-of-area or "unavailable" or "private" or 800/888 calls. I believe federal law should be made to REQUIRE the ability to block on any pattern in caller ID, including 8xx or whatever the heck else the consumer wants.

  43. They get paid for selling by LividBlivet · · Score: 1

    Waste as much of their time as possible and buy nothing.
    Wag their dog and amuse yourselves.
    It's the right thing to do.

  44. Girlfriend by cerberusss · · Score: 1
    It's software that detects emotion and now it's being used in call centers
    According to my girlfriend, this software is necessary in our relation, not in call centers.
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    1. Re:Girlfriend by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 2, Interesting

      My girlfriend's latest answer to telemarketers, "You know my name, my street address, and who my mortgage is with. That scares me. I think you might be a stalker. If you call me again, I will report you to the police." It seems to have the desired effect.

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    2. Re:Girlfriend by urbieta · · Score: 1

      My girls says:

      "Im in the credit bureau"

      and with that, all credit card offers disappear! :)

  45. Not all telemarketers are calling your home by generica1 · · Score: 1

    Actually, I am employed by a call centre (in an IT position) whose only focus is calling businesses. We never call anyone at home, especially not after hours. We market our products to businesses extremely successfully via this method; what a nice break from doing "real work" a call from us might be for some bored store clerk in a small town somewhere. This medium for marketing works as long as it is appropriate to the product being offered, which in our case it is. But, I suspect, the days of retailers hawking stuff at you during dinner time at your home are probably mostly over, at least where I am, that sort of thing isn't (very) common.

    Business to business telemarketing is probably a large industry, and it flies under the radar a lot because of the high profile of the "other type" of telemarketing. It would seem to me there could be a few good applications of this type of technology, especially if it could provide real-time feedback on screen to our agents about how well their pitch is going. I doubt it could ever really get too accurate. Probably about as accurate as speech recognition and lie detectors, though, I suppose...

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    1. Re:Not all telemarketers are calling your home by mike2R · · Score: 1

      Since you're in that business, maybe you can answer a question that has been bugging me for ages.

      I'm on the other end of the phone for these calls - probably take an average of 5 a day, varying from generic marketing or recruitment services, to suppliers who are at least vaguely in our industry. SOP is to give them an email address and get them off the line as quickly as possible. Generally they're polite and it's no more than a minor irritant.

      What I don't understand is: why are the people selling phone services orders of magnitude more rude then anyone else? Any other cold call, when told they can only have an email address, will either take it down, or politely say goodbye. Anyone who is selling anything to do with phones will nearly always simply hang up when told they are not going to get put through to "the business owner" or "the person in charge of your phone system". It would only take a couple of seconds longer to be polite, rather than leaving me with a dead phone thinking what a rude little shit they are.

      It's been going on for years, I'm sure there must be a reason for it, but I just can't figure it out. I'd have though a company selling phone services would make an above average effort to make sure their staff had at least a semblance of a good telephone manner..

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    2. Re:Not all telemarketers are calling your home by Brickwall · · Score: 1
      I'm in the same situtation as the parent poster: an IT analyst at a business-to-business telemarketing firm. We have four separate sales channels (outbound calls, inbound calls, mail, and web), and outbound TM is by far the largest - about 3 times the other three combined. And it's true - some customers really enjoy it when our agents call. Some agents have had the same accounts for ten years or more, and they have sincere relationships with their customers. (Others can't stand it, and we put them on the Do Not Call list.)

      And, when I RTFA, my immediate thought was how to use this to improve our reps' performance. One of our programs only calls customers who haven't bought anything from us in two years or more. These reps will make over 100 calls in a single day, and maybe make one or two sales. If this software could help improve their performance (or help us cull people unlikely to buy from our list), it would make a lot of profit and increase the job satisfaction of these reps at the same time. Sometimes buying signals are so subtle, they get lost; I wonder how much this software can pick up?

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  46. Re:Please remove me from all lists your company ow by IcyNeko · · Score: 1

    I have the perfect solution for this: Celebrity Sound Boards. If they call, let them speak to the soothing tone of George Takei. Or even Jack Black.

    or, in worst cases, you can put them on call waiting, then call up customer support, then bridging the two together, then dropping out of the call. That way, it's an endless loop... they're be talking to their own inbound call center, and I'll be asleep. XD

  47. Re:Please remove me from all lists your company ow by Rob+T+Firefly · · Score: 1

    Back in the mid 1990s (this is before the official US state and national do-not-call registries with their legal enforceability) I was really destitute and looking for an excuse to use the phone a lot, so I took a job as a telemarketer for a shady ripoff firm that fleeced old ladies in the name of charity. Their call lists were photocopied phone book pages, and we were told to add everyone who clearly requested no further calls to a seperate do-not-call list. When someone tried to act hip to the scam and said the magic words "take me off your list," we were specifically ordered to check our do-not-call list, and if we found their name/number on it, to remove them from the do-not-call list.

    Told you it was shady. I accidentally wasn't hideously evil, so I only lasted a few days in that job before I switched exclusively to prank-calling people until I was caught and fired.

  48. Stupid Pizza Hut by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm on the Do Not Call List, and have been pleased by the decrease in calls (aside from around election time). So I was surprised when I got an automated telemarketing call from Pizza Hut. I've bought a pizza from them before, so we had a "pre-existing business relationship." They just lost a customer for life -- slick move.

  49. I've been taking advantage of this for over a year by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I could spend lots of time trying to navigate through the maze of automated responses, or I could simply SHOUT "I want to talk to a f**king manager NOW or I'm going to cancel my g*d d*mn service and switch to (insert competitor's name)" or some similar pissed-off sounding monologue. Almost every time, the recording switches immediately to "Please hold while I connect your call".

    So far, I've used this with Comcast, Verizon, T-Mobile, several banks, my auto insurance company, NVidia, Dell, Western Digital, Linksys, and probably a few that I've forgotten.

  50. Similar to the device for asperger's? by misleb · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I seem to recall a new device for people with aperger's/autism to help clue them in on the feelings of others. I believe it worked on visual cues. I bet this would be a pretty good addition. Especially for phone calls.

    -matthew

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  51. Customer Service Emotions by CopaceticOpus · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Hello, Microsoft Customer Service."

    "Why is windows accusing me of stealing it?"

    "Sir, I can see you're feeling... 'furious' ... I am sorry. The Windows software is only trying to protect you from piracy."

    "Wha... what? How am I threatened by pirates?"

    "I understand you are... 'confused' ... Allow me to help. Windows is simply ensuring that you have a genuine, complete, unbroken copy of the software."

    "So windows is making sure I can use my computer by not allowing me to use it?"

    "We simply want to ensure you do not accidentally have an illegal copy of windows from a source that is not trustworthy."

    "You want me to prove I'm not guilty so that there's no chance you're not making money? Why you..."

    "Sir, you seem to be feeling... Um, there are too many emotion words scrolling on the screen, I can't read them fast enough. Oh shit, I shouldn't have told you about the emotion words."

    "I. Will. Kill. You. Dead."

    "Ok, looks like we've settled on 'furious' again. Do you have a credit card handy? Sir?" (It looks like he hung up. Now the screen is telling me to lock the call center doors.)

  52. Why oh why... by ChilyWily · · Score: 1

    ... would anyone need such a device?

    Is not 90% (and I'm being generous to the telemarketers) of their most annoying behavior already known? Whatever happened to professionalism and service orientation, never mind, basic civility?

    Is this going to be just a meter for the telemarketer to approximate how much BS the other person will take?

    ChilyWily

  53. I shouldn't skim Slashdot summaries so fast by roystgnr · · Score: 1

    I read, "Are we inadvertently getting closer to software that can understand us by killing the seed of telemarketers who need to know when I'm upset that they just interrupted my dinner?"

    Which depending on your definition of "seed" may be going too far. I'm all in favor of sterilizing telemarketers, but once they've actually mated killing the resulting progeny would be wrong.

    1. Re:I shouldn't skim Slashdot summaries so fast by trongey · · Score: 1
      ...I'm all in favor of sterilizing telemarketers, but once they've actually mated killing the resulting progeny would be wrong.

      Why do you say that? We already do it with weeds, bacteria, mold spores...
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  54. The software as Neo by Vexler · · Score: 1

    Software: "I can feel them."

    (shortly before willing the five approaching human sentinels to explode)

  55. math illiterate software by bugi · · Score: 1

    Does this mean call center staffers are mathematically inclined?

    ref:
    http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/1 9/005218

  56. not always a bad thing by DaveJay · · Score: 1

    Well, I can think of a couple of good uses for this (and I'm not even being sarcastic):

    1. When you're staffing call centers with people from a culture other than the one of those calling the call center, this can help them judge the emotions of the person they're talking to more effectively;

    2. In various ways, this type of technology can help Autistic people figure out the emotions of the people they're dealing with, which is actually a very cool thing indeed.

  57. Bypass Voice-Activitation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Curse at it as loud as you can, with as many words that you think they'll find offensive - and you'll get sent right to the next available human. The software is set to recognize that sh*te and will expedite your frustrations.

  58. One step closer by sinij · · Score: 1

    DAVE: Open the pod bay doors, HAL.
    HAL: I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave.

  59. Press one ... by PPH · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...if you are getting angry.
    Press the octothorpe if you are confused.
    Repeatedly press 6 if you are impatient.
    Press any key to be returned to our on hold music.

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  60. Re:Dinner? What's that? by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
    "I thought this forum was for IT workers. IT workers NEVER make it home in time for dinner.

    You do if you're a smart one. First, you NEVER work for free......and of late, unless the company needs it, they don't like to pay OT.

    Second, never work salary....there's no such thing as job security, so why not get contractor pay, if you're working for contractor job security?

    I work, in general, the hours I want....you should too.

    :-)

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  61. damn robots!! by radarsat1 · · Score: 1

    All I know is that when I get a phone call in the middle of the day and it's a MACHINE on the other end, I hang up RIGHT AWAY. The LAST thing I need is machines calling me, something that seems to be happening more and more often lately. Frankly I don't care if its a message, a survey, or if they're trying to sell me something, have a PERSON call me. There's nothing more offensive that getting a phone call from a freaking ROBOT. DAMN ROBOTS!!! *shakes fist in the air*

    1. Re:damn robots!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree, I find it extremely insulting to be called by any machine, no matter what the intent. If call them and get a machine, I'm somewhat more tolerant because it's their business and they can run it as they wish. However, nothing says "We don't care about you or your time"(Our time is valuable, your time is not) as loudly as a call from a machine, even when it says nothing at all, as in silent phone calls, of which I get several a day.

  62. OffTopic: Your sig by BoberFett · · Score: 1

    I just wanted to finish your sentence fragment.

    "... with guns."

    1. Re:OffTopic: Your sig by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1
      Source
      Dunno whether I'm the first person to come up with it, but IMO this is the perfect rebuff to the certainly not untrue, but key-issue-avoiding statement that "Guns don't kill people. People kill people", in the way it's used by "right to bear arms" people. Symmetry is beautiful. If someone replies "But people protect people with guns", you can grin and retort "Well, people kill people with guns".
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  63. DO NOT CALL by wowbagger · · Score: 2, Informative

    There's your mistake - you don't want them to remove you from their lists.

    You want them to add you to their do not call list - the one they are required by law to keep.

    "Add me to all your do not call lists."

  64. What telemarketers? by gelfling · · Score: 1

    They're not allowed to call me. And those who are: cops, fundraisers and politicians, I generally tell them to scream in boiling atomic hell while they fuck themselves. Then I hang up. I wonder what their emotional software reads when I do that?

    1. Re:What telemarketers? by krray · · Score: 1

      I tend to react the same way whenever any such call ever hits the "house phone".

      I've purposely have had multiple numbers for just this reason as an adult. Not too long ago ISDN sure beat out dialup and one circuit was simply always "busy" (inbound). Today it's even easier with VoIP -- particularly when I want to make a call and control what CID shows...

      The house phone is only ever given to friends & family. Otherwise the bank, credit card companies, stores, and your brother can go ahead and try and reach me on my "other line" (and yes, all my bills are paid :).

      Feel free. It'll either be busy or all-circuits-busy as the computer decides. My other number is 847.854.0048

  65. Add THIS NUMBER to your do not call list by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't say "add me." Say "add this number." To be absolutely sure (and annoying), you could even say the actual number.

  66. "may I take your order please?" by Phantom+of+the+Opera · · Score: 1

    Usually flusters them.
    "Do you know which department they are in?"

    "thank you for getting back to me. How could it have possibly taken so long, look, I have these complaints.."

    also work pretty well. Yeah, they were fun some times.

  67. You need emotionally sensitive software for this? by weeboo0104 · · Score: 1

    Telemarketer: Good evening, am I speaking with Mister Leon Kowalski?

    Leon: Speaking.

    Telemarketer: I'm calling on behalf of the Tyrell corporation to conduct a survey regarding the quality of your cellular service.

    Leon: I'm eating dinner now.

    Telemarketer: I understand sir, this will only take a couple of minutes.

    Leon: OK, I guess so...

    Telemarketer: You're in a desert, walking along in the sand when all of the sudden . . .

    Leon: Is this the survey now?

    Telemarketer: Yes. You're in a desert walking along in the sand when all of a sudden you look . . .

    Leon: What one?
    Telemarketer: What?

    Leon: What desert?
    Telemarketer: It doesn't make any difference what desert, it's completely hypothetical.

    Leon: But how come I'd be there?
    Telemarketer: Maybe you're fed up, maybe you want to be by yourself, who knows? You look and you see a service representative, Leon, he's coming towards you . . .

    Leon: service representative, what's that?

    Telemarketer: Know what a CSR is?
    Leon: Of course.

    Telemarketer: Same thing.
    Leon: I've never seen a CSR -- But I understand what you mean.

    Telemarketer: He comes over and asks, "Can you hear me now?".

    Leon: Do you make up these questions, or do they write them down for you?

    Telemarketer: The service rep stands in front of you, his balding head baking in the hot sun, fanning his face trying to cool himself off but he can't, not without your answer, but you're not answering.

    Leon: Damn Straight.

    Telemarketer: ...

    Leon: Want to ask me a question about my mother?

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  68. It has to be said... by dapsychous · · Score: 1

    I, for one, welcome our new telemarket... Ok, they're gone.

    Get the shotgun, Joey.

  69. It reads: call more often. by cheros · · Score: 1

    The software may have a sense of humor too. It could even be evil and put 10 faxes in a queue on your phone number. :-)

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    1. Re:It reads: call more often. by gelfling · · Score: 1

      Faxes on that number are silently routed to email where they are filtered with a white list. Everything else: bitbucket. Someone sending me a fax needs my permission before I see it. I got tired of my fax machine printing junk faxes and misrouted 20 page mortgage applications. Not only is it annoying, it's expensive. So I pulled it out and print to the network printer. I use the regular fax machine for outbound only.

      Anyway I can do the same thing with any VoIP number so if I see a number I don't want I just filter it out. Sure there are limits on the number of numbers though.

      On topic - I really don't see any point in emotive software. Not when everything has the same annoying menus and if you're lucky enough to get to a person it's usually someone from India pretending to be "Mary" or "Eric". They can't understand me and I can't understand them.

  70. All I need now is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A system built into my phone so when the automated computer-enhanced telemarketers call my computer-enhanced phone can screen the call first and tell the telemarketing computing where to go without the telemarketing system ever bothering me.

  71. emotional software eh? by Nocturnal+Deviant · · Score: 1

    so that means they can tell that were mad/annoyed when we tell them to quote on quote "PISS OFF"?

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  72. Heard this last night calling a 1800---scary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    called a 1800 last night to order M trudeau book. So weird!!

    I could have sworn it was a bot talking (no sh!t) but it was someone talking and answering my questions like a human. I swear i was freaking out. By the end of the call i just said to myself that it was a human who's voice was being realtime digitized over to relax me. NOW I see this article! It must be what i experienced. I cant really explain it, you'll notice though if you hear them (it)

  73. Re:Please remove me from all lists your company ow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "... fracking ..."

    According to http://blog.scifi.com/battlestar/, it is actually spelled "frakking" ("frak" for the standard form).

    Whoo-hoo! Grammar Nazi for science fiction words!

  74. I'm never loud on the phone by Plutonite · · Score: 1

    but I can be really mean, ya know? Sarcasm, indirect insults and general belittle-ing of the operator are my style. When/if computers are capable of having a truly human conversation (the famous problem) then this will not be needed.

    [soft, gentle voice]: $400 mil down the drain you fuckwads! Thank you!

  75. Re:I've been taking advantage of this for over a y by Brickwall · · Score: 1
    So far, I've used this with Comcast, Verizon, T-Mobile, several banks, my auto insurance company, NVidia, Dell, Western Digital, Linksys, and probably a few that I've forgotten.

    You seem to get angry a lot.

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  76. Re:Please remove me from all lists your company ow by Bugs42 · · Score: 1
    Whoo-hoo! Grammar Nazi for science fiction words!
    Congratulations! For that you get +5 Geek Cred, but -10 Charisma.
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  77. No this is not telemarketing it is direct sales by davros-too · · Score: 1

    I think the situation you describe is a sales team calling customers you have existing relationships with. That is quite different to telemarketing. If you're respecting the customer's right to opt out of further calls AND you never pretend the call is about anything other than selling something that isn't too bad. We get a lot of calls where they say stuff like 'no I'm not selling anything' or 'I need to speak to the business owner about an important and confidential matter'. I tell you I hate these lying asshats more than I hate spammers.

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  78. Some have had low-tech equivalents for years. by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 1
    A few years ago, I found that one company that I needed to call alot had replaced their button-press menu system with a voice recognition ONLY system. Pressing buttons, including '0' resulted in a friendly voice saying "I'm sorry, I didn't understand that, could you please repeat what you just said?" Saying "operator" didn't get you anywhere, saying "live person" didn't get you anywhere. You HAD to go through the menu to get to the 'appropriate' person. (In some cases, like billing, it would insist on having you listen to two minute long things about how well their automated system works, and why you should use it to pay your bill rather than talking to a live person.)

    I did discover one phrase that got me to a live operator immediately, every time...

    "GET ME A LIVE FUCKING PERSON NOW, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT!"

    Of course, the first time I said it, it was out of real frustration. The next time I called, I decided to make that the first thing I said, and was responded to with "Hold on while we connect you to a customer service agent." Worked every time. I don't know if it was the exact wording, or the volume, that did it, though.

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  79. I feel special... by rHBa · · Score: 1

    I feel special if I get a sales call from a real person these days, more often than not I answer the phone to a recorded message.

    Oh the wonders of home working :-(

  80. Apathy? by noz · · Score: 1

    Can it detect my apathy when they call? What becomes their tactic?

  81. Re:Please remove me from all lists your company ow by Duckz · · Score: 1

    I don't get the joke. It is a joke, right ?

  82. Re:Please remove me from all lists your company ow by Roduku · · Score: 1

    I like the way this guy handles telemarketers

  83. Re:Four words: my rant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you are lucky enough to live in a single party consent state, and blessed with a bit of money to burn, try what I've implemented (North of the border we have *NO* do not call list and telemarketers aren't under any strong legal requirements to actively keep a do not call list, the worst that can happen to them is they lose the right to have phones. For a while). Set up asterisk, during the greeting you tell telemarketers to add you to their do not call list. Then, this is the important part, tell them you charge $XX + recovery charges (if necessary) for your time per call. And, probably important, let them know you record calls. When one of the retards calls in, listen to their spiel. Tell them you want to mail them a money order as you have no credit card. Get some details on their business. Tell the idiot thanks. Here's the kicker: You've run Monitor() and recorded it all, legally.

    Up to now I've had no telemarketers call through. It's kinda sad because I'm itching to record their soundfile to CD and mail it to their company with a bill. Oh well.

    Why block when you can hope to score some easy $$$? Or at least get your telemarketing call volume down to zero.

  84. Re:Please remove me from all lists your company ow by rts008 · · Score: 1

    What happened wit MS's debut of some voice recognition software not long aga.
    I'm sure if you copy-past all of the phrase in the quoatation marks into a Google search, will find out what you want to know. (BTW- worth the effort for a good laugh- real life is funnier than fiction!)

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  85. Re:Please remove me from all lists your company ow by rts008 · · Score: 1

    Holy crap!
    note to self:

    USE PREVIEW next time! aga? past? Argghh!

    For the pendants/grammar nazis:

    correction:
    aga should be ago
    past should be paste
    Why yes, I DO post while drinking!

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  86. For automated, voice-activated systems no doubt by pluther · · Score: 1

    A couple of years ago a friend of mine told me about a system that his company had installed on their inbound voice-activated phone system. You know the type, "Please say 'billing' to be tranfered to billing. Please say 'I like this music' to continue to wait on hold, etc." (or whatever the prompts are).

    Anyway, the new voice-recognition system included volume and scans for common profanity to move the caller ahead in the queue if they were getting upset. (Because, as anyone who's done tech support or customer service can tell you, angry customers are the most fun).

    Since he told me about this, I've been trying it. Pretty much any time I'm in the queue to some company (and not sitting in a cube surrounded by co-workers) I swear at the phone. I haven't done any formal study of course, but it does seem to work for some companies.

    Fun, too.

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  87. Uh huh. by PlasticArmyMan · · Score: 1

    I wish people would stop using the words intelligent and software. It bugs me. It's going to be wrong more than 50% of the time, there is no way to measure human emotion by the slim bandwidth of a phone call. Sounds like a company is pushing this tech as the next big thing and making money out of suckers.

  88. Ask the linguists by boback · · Score: 1

    The guys at the Language Log (http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/, October 15, 2006, More on Pitch and Time Intervals in Speech) don't think it's possible to analyze speech patterns for emotion. They also don't think that you can identify particularly persuasive words (several posts, currently ending October 13, 2006). So maybe the speech recognition guys, the computational linguists are running a scam on the telemarketers. Too good.

  89. Telemarketer-thwarting strategy by terrahertz · · Score: 1

    Forgive me for veering mildly off-topic, but this needs to be shared:

    A friend recently explained his own telemarketer-thwarting strategy to me which, if you can accept the minor negatives, is probably the most effective and simple means of "doing your part" to resist the use of telemarketing when a call comes in.

    When the telemarketer calls and asks for someone (even if it is you and they immediately assume so and launch into their spiel), simply say "Oh OK, yes, let me get him/her," then set the phone down (preferably on mute) and walk away. That's it! Wait until you hear the telco tones/message confirming the call is dropped and then hang it up.

    Almost all telemarketers have guidelines for how long they're supposed to wait on hold, and by doing the above you guarantee you'll max out whatever limit has been set, thereby denying that particular telemarketer additional time they could be calling others with. If you instead got all mad and angrily hung up on them right away, that gives them time to bother someone else -- but by doing your part you help everyone else out on the telemarketer's list, as well as earn the personal satisfaction that you got what you wanted without getting mean or upset. The only downside is that your line is in use the whole time as well, though in my experience almost no telemarketer will wait more than 1 or 2 minutes before giving up.

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  90. People kill people with guns. by heinousjay · · Score: 1

    And knives. And hammers. And cars. And bare hands.

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    1. Re:People kill people with guns. by WilliamSChips · · Score: 1

      And they can't protect with the same things? :)

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  91. Who answeres calls ? I do by baomike · · Score: 1

    If I need a break from what I am doing, I answer.
    Usually to see how long I can string them along.
    I consider it a service to humanity. While they are talking to me they ain't callin' you.

    I find it particularly entertaining when they have the wrong (my name ).

  92. Cleverly Abusing Telemarketers by Randym · · Score: 1
    I have faith that the geeks of the world will find a way!

    Here's what I have on my phone:

    "Hello? (3 second pause) Oh, he's not here right now, so please leave a message when you hear the beep. Thanks![BEEP]"

    This completely confuses telemarketers. Some start their spiel anyway, some start going "Hello? Hello? ". One guy was so upset by it that he snarled "A******!", before hanging up. It takes up their valuable time anyway. At the very worst, the appearance of an answered call causes automated calls to start rolling, so, by the time the machine starts recording, I miss most of the message 8^D.

    It works because it hooks into social expectations. If they hear "Hello?" and then a pause, they assume they have reached a real human being and so they start into their routine; then cognitive dissonance sets in as they belatedly realize their error. (I leave just enough time for them to ask for me by name -- if they do so, my script then responds with what sounds like a reasonable response.) My friends, on the other hand, are used to it by now. It only works once -- but once is enough for telemarketers!

    My next project is to set up a program that can listen for the string "... [#] to be removed..." and generate the appropriate tone; that'll take care of the automated calls!

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