That's funny, I'll give you that. Now, if it ran under linux nobody in their office would have figued out how to install it so the reports would have been zero. They would have asked the vendor for help and would have gotten "rtfm phukn nOOb".
Although file and registry virtualization does make many legacy apps work fine. It doesn't fix the ones that needlessly checked directly for the administrator group being enabled in the token, but apps that write to system32 and program files and all work fine as a user now with virt.
That's a good question. I was wondering the same thing myself, so I loaded up server. It has a web interface for remote management and all that I didn't bother with as it isn't supported on Windows XP or Windows Vista (requires a server OS or at least for support it does). So that piece is one difference; I just didn't test it. The next difference I noticed is that things like the USB and sound card are not added to new VM's by default (I guess because you don't always need those on servers). But they are easy to add. Then I noticed that you can have the VM's run as a different account (including local system) and have them start WHEN THE HOST STARTS (which VMWare workstation cannot do). The regular GUI looks almost like workstation.
The next thing I noticed is that with the latest build of Workstation, WinPE 2.0 and Windows Vista come up in 640x480 and 4 bit color (16 color) mode. With VMware server 1.0, they came up at 800x600 with 16 bit color (or maybe it was 8 bit, but at least it looked good). So I uninstalled workstation from my main machines and installed server. It is working for me very well.
Also for performance reasons on the file extensions; why open the file and read a few bits from it when you can get better perf by knowing the type of file by the extension? I imagine that while it might not hurt too badly these days, "back in the day" that perf hit from opening each file may have been big.
"There will be a menu item in the Office applications that will point people to the downloads for XPS, PDF, and now ODF"
Looks like it won't be too hard to get if there is a menu item for it. People who want it can find it. And for the folks that are really asking for it (government, etc.) they can just put it in their image or their distribution of the Office install to make sure it is there.
Yes, exactly. Totally. In fact, the claim that they are "more productive than they would be otherwise" is kinda like saying that they wouldn't be as productive running free software - which is pretty much a good way to get modded a troll around here.
I've never seen an IM client that has ActiveX. Do you actually know of one, or were you confusing Internet Explorer with an IM client? Certainly Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger don't run activeX.
It's fairly simple, really - it's about resources. Getting all of the multi-language "stuff" done generally comes later in the project, so they have to start with just a small set. Japanese is considered (by MSFT) as representative of language types that use pictographs style glyphs, German has some of the longest words on screen and tests your software well for things like size of text fields, labels, button text, etc., and of course English is known by so many people (as a first, second, or third language) - plus the MS "dogfooders" all need it in English...
Filter needs work, doesn't it? Either that, or both you and I had well thought out, but lame posts. I'm pretty darn sure mine was fine, and yours seems non-lame too. It's funny that you can game it with gibberish, but if you try to put certain quotes or two many --- together, it decides without reason that it is lame.
The single biggest thing that held back WinXP OTS sales is the product activation scheme.
Really? And how the heck does that make any sense? See, if they didn't have the product activation, they would have sold all of 1 copy retail. Everyone else would just get a copy of that one.
Oh, wait - you meant that legitimate purchasers didn't purchase due to the fact that they heard there was "this activation thing". Not! Sure some hobbyist folks (maybe even lots) have had to call up when they rebuild their machine for the umpteenth times. But the vast majority of people had NO PROBLEMS whatsoever with activating.
The sad thing is that they think that they have paid you. By providing their crappy content for free if you watch their crappier commercials as part of the deal.
I just got a T60 and the keys are still on. It seems like a solid machine - but of course I have had it for all of three days now. But it's a screamer (speed wise, not hard drive noise). Certainly seems to be built just like prior IBMs (I have a T40 and a T43 as well).
And here I thought the problem with them is that when people read your email, all they can seem to respond with is:
Hmmm
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Sent from my Blackberry Wireless Handheld
Like we couldn't tell that it was sent from a device on which it is a pain to type! BTW, it was really hard to post this because good old Slashdot couldn't manage to use the "Humor" filter and kept inflicting me with the "lameness" one because of too many junk characters... If only the people sending those inane notes on their Blackberries would encounter that same "lameness" filter!
Actually it doesn't come with it switched on. I run server as my desktop OS, so I know this. You have to start the themes service and you have to configure the video card to "max acceleration" (as it is set to no acceleration on server SKUs by default). You often have to set things like the image aquisition service and others to automatic if you have scanners and the like. All of these things are off on the server sku...
I'm in agreement on most of that, but as an intersting anecdote... I was showing my Treo 700w to a "Crackberry" addict the other day. Now, granted - hers was just stolen along with her purse so she needs a replacement. But, she wanted to get the Treo instead simply because it has reliable "voice dialing"...
Uh... Microsoft doesn't control the network. It's BLACKBERRY that can read all of your email. With the MS solution it all stays in your network (and your phone provider).
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That's funny, I'll give you that. Now, if it ran under linux nobody in their office would have figued out how to install it so the reports would have been zero. They would have asked the vendor for help and would have gotten "rtfm phukn nOOb".
Totally agreed.
Although file and registry virtualization does make many legacy apps work fine. It doesn't fix the ones that needlessly checked directly for the administrator group being enabled in the token, but apps that write to system32 and program files and all work fine as a user now with virt.
That's a good question. I was wondering the same thing myself, so I loaded up server. It has a web interface for remote management and all that I didn't bother with as it isn't supported on Windows XP or Windows Vista (requires a server OS or at least for support it does). So that piece is one difference; I just didn't test it. The next difference I noticed is that things like the USB and sound card are not added to new VM's by default (I guess because you don't always need those on servers). But they are easy to add. Then I noticed that you can have the VM's run as a different account (including local system) and have them start WHEN THE HOST STARTS (which VMWare workstation cannot do). The regular GUI looks almost like workstation. The next thing I noticed is that with the latest build of Workstation, WinPE 2.0 and Windows Vista come up in 640x480 and 4 bit color (16 color) mode. With VMware server 1.0, they came up at 800x600 with 16 bit color (or maybe it was 8 bit, but at least it looked good). So I uninstalled workstation from my main machines and installed server. It is working for me very well.
Also for performance reasons on the file extensions; why open the file and read a few bits from it when you can get better perf by knowing the type of file by the extension? I imagine that while it might not hurt too badly these days, "back in the day" that perf hit from opening each file may have been big.
"There will be a menu item in the Office applications that will point people to the downloads for XPS, PDF, and now ODF" Looks like it won't be too hard to get if there is a menu item for it. People who want it can find it. And for the folks that are really asking for it (government, etc.) they can just put it in their image or their distribution of the Office install to make sure it is there.
I imagine they DID lose a prime parking space during the hours the leech was there though, right?
I didn't think that MS Office was part of the monopoly thing. I could see if they had added PDF to Windows itself; but this is adding it to MS Office.
Right, once they get power to the many area in Pakistan that have no electricity they may have wireless access.
Yes, exactly. Totally. In fact, the claim that they are "more productive than they would be otherwise" is kinda like saying that they wouldn't be as productive running free software - which is pretty much a good way to get modded a troll around here.
I've never seen an IM client that has ActiveX. Do you actually know of one, or were you confusing Internet Explorer with an IM client? Certainly Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger don't run activeX.
Probably because they copied it from the front page of CNN?
And a bad experience with Windows explains why they migrated from UNIX to LINUX? Since Windows wasn't involved in this at all...
It's fairly simple, really - it's about resources. Getting all of the multi-language "stuff" done generally comes later in the project, so they have to start with just a small set. Japanese is considered (by MSFT) as representative of language types that use pictographs style glyphs, German has some of the longest words on screen and tests your software well for things like size of text fields, labels, button text, etc., and of course English is known by so many people (as a first, second, or third language) - plus the MS "dogfooders" all need it in English...
Filter needs work, doesn't it? Either that, or both you and I had well thought out, but lame posts. I'm pretty darn sure mine was fine, and yours seems non-lame too. It's funny that you can game it with gibberish, but if you try to put certain quotes or two many --- together, it decides without reason that it is lame.
The single biggest thing that held back WinXP OTS sales is the product activation scheme.
Really? And how the heck does that make any sense? See, if they didn't have the product activation, they would have sold all of 1 copy retail. Everyone else would just get a copy of that one.
Oh, wait - you meant that legitimate purchasers didn't purchase due to the fact that they heard there was "this activation thing". Not! Sure some hobbyist folks (maybe even lots) have had to call up when they rebuild their machine for the umpteenth times. But the vast majority of people had NO PROBLEMS whatsoever with activating.
The sad thing is that they think that they have paid you. By providing their crappy content for free if you watch their crappier commercials as part of the deal.
I just got a T60 and the keys are still on. It seems like a solid machine - but of course I have had it for all of three days now. But it's a screamer (speed wise, not hard drive noise). Certainly seems to be built just like prior IBMs (I have a T40 and a T43 as well).
Kewl, the kids in Africa could do great things browsing the web and writing documents on the software in your friggin' modem.
And here I thought the problem with them is that when people read your email, all they can seem to respond with is:
Hmmm
-----------------
Sent from my Blackberry Wireless Handheld
Like we couldn't tell that it was sent from a device on which it is a pain to type! BTW, it was really hard to post this because good old Slashdot couldn't manage to use the "Humor" filter and kept inflicting me with the "lameness" one because of too many junk characters... If only the people sending those inane notes on their Blackberries would encounter that same "lameness" filter!
So now we have a new "fork you" version we are calling OpenOrifice.xxx. Anyone want to contribute time or money?
Actually it doesn't come with it switched on. I run server as my desktop OS, so I know this. You have to start the themes service and you have to configure the video card to "max acceleration" (as it is set to no acceleration on server SKUs by default). You often have to set things like the image aquisition service and others to automatic if you have scanners and the like. All of these things are off on the server sku...
Maybe you haven't tried IE in over a year? IE doesn't get popups either.
I'm in agreement on most of that, but as an intersting anecdote... I was showing my Treo 700w to a "Crackberry" addict the other day. Now, granted - hers was just stolen along with her purse so she needs a replacement. But, she wanted to get the Treo instead simply because it has reliable "voice dialing"...
Uh... Microsoft doesn't control the network. It's BLACKBERRY that can read all of your email. With the MS solution it all stays in your network (and your phone provider).