>They don't have to re-learn anything i use firefox, thunderbird, gaim and openoffice on windows. i'd been half-way there for years, before i made the last leap, and installed those fedora cds.
the same happened when nero released a version for linux. rather than being appreciated for at last acknowledging the existence of linux, they were shunted for not being 'open' enough, and their product denounced inferior to the free alternative (k3b v nero).
don't moan that companies aren't trying to provide for linux users, if when they do release a product, you write bad reviews of it and criticise their attempts to get closer to a userbase they know little about, and can even fear.
say a spam email takes a second to delete. zombie computer sending thousands a day. run for a month wasted hours. average life expectancy 70 years.
yeah, if you were your zombie computer sending spam for a couple of milleni you have wasted three person lives.
it's not killing one person, it's killing everyone else very slightly.
I don't think the ISPs quite thought this plan though. Users aren't going to be able clean up their computers without tools such as ad-aware and spybot search & destroy. These ppl probably don't even have a virus checker at all. The necessary software is freely avaliable online, but without a net connection these ppl will have to buy $100 of stuff at PC World. And that'll need updating online anyway.
A better idea would be to restrict bandwidth and connections on infected computers. The ISP should also post everyone they disconnect a CD with the usual free tools and instructions on how to use them. Along with Firefox and Thunderbird, of course.
I agree though, action should be taken against owners of zombie computers. They're irresponsibly spoiling the internet for others. Such users who think 'Internet Explorer' is the internet and believe the internet = the web.
While such ignorant users should be allowed to run computers in private, once they're connected to the internet, they become a danger to everyone else. The way I see it, I'm not allowed to drive a car on the road without first taking a test to make sure I can use it safely, and recognise and repair common problems (or at least take the car to the garage). This requires knowledge of both how the mechanics of the engine work, and of the highway code. So why are people who have never even seen the inside of computer and don't realise that connecting an unpatched WinXP box to broadband is as dangerous as speeding down a motorway in the opposite direction to all traffic, allowed to do exactly that?
Are we referring to the popular science and technology weekly, New Scientist, or to a collective of magazines - the New Einstein, the New Newton and the New Bohr?
Surely no-one here on Slashes' Dot would make such a mistake.
area of a circle = pi(r^2). if pi was 4, the area would be four times the square of the radius, and our new 'circle' would be a square. if pi was three... hum a regular shape with 3/4 the area of a square of the same radius. no idea.
they'd have to give me money to get me to use an iPod.
its even easier to win an iPod in a competition now than it was to get a digital radio a year or so ago. and if you can't get an old-model of eBay, you can always wait for a hand-me-down when your brother thinks "that's it. i'm getting a Rio."
how can apple still be selling so many iPods after they've flooded the market to the extent that their value is collapsing?
i have an iRiver H120. both cheaper (and shipped with accessories) and much better (or at least geekier) - it can play ogg vorbis, has optical in and out, and can do direct encoding.
all the images on that site are bitmaps. slashdot is now sending thousands of users to download them. that's a lot of bandwidth. ha ha, the site is now down. only wish i'd been downloading an image at the time and seen it stop half way. only then have you seen the power.
> 6: I have the right to watch that movie as many times as I want, for as long as the DVD exists (decades). Even if they do last that long, the ones you'll soon be getting from your Blockbuster store (if it isn't killed by broadband delivery or postal rental) certainly won't. I read in NewScientist recently about a patent for DVDs that will turn to goo after reacting with air. You get the DVD through the post, watch it, next week it's dust. How's that for a waste of resources? Probably cheaper than bandwidth though.
See destructing-DVDs (NewScientist) http://www.newscientist.com/articl e.ns?id=mg177237 82.500
1) launches faster:)
2) new quickstarter is useless, cannot launch apps from it. hopefully will add shortcuts to all apps like in old one.
3) uses new opendocument format. soon to be supported by legacy release of openoffice 1.1 and koffice.
Here many ppl have iPods and other mp3 players but very few ppl have mobile DAB radios. (Not sure if/when they plan to turn off FM radio. Analogue TV is 2012, I think.) I cannot listen to 6music or any other DAB station whilst travelling in the morning. If the BBC were to podcast programs, I could funk my way to school with Craig Charles. Woo.
DAB and Digital TV are already going full steam with the backing of the BBC. The BBC want to start podcasting soon, so that might help it take off here, as soon as they get legal problems sorted.
As for podcasting ever killing commercial radio, you might as well expect amateur movies filmed by bloggers to destroy Hollywood and music on Creative Commons to kill EMI.
Podcasting really needs a better name. The 'pod' bit, is just another commercial plug for Apple. It wouldn't be acceptable to call all PCs 'Window-machines', would it? Or websites 'Internet Explorer sites'?
I have an iRiver H120. On their front page they have someone listening to their new mini player, whilst crunching on a juice apple. Subtle?
Art is art and the beauty is intended for all to admire. Mass cash is only made when famous originals is auctioned by a museum and sold to a 'private collector' (or vice versa). Artists aren't nearly as rich as actors or musicians, but their work will keep their name on a plaque for decades.
No-one 'private collector' is going to decide not to pay a million dollar sum for a Monet original because they can look at it online.
Whereas music and movies are business, with labels trying to squeeze every drop of cash possible.
I don't know. This comment started well. Then I forgot what I meant to say. I think I'll go practice my moxious manoeuveuresrasrses.
As reported in BBC Technology News last month, UK net users lead TV downloads. Everyone here is desperate to watch 24, The OC, Desperate Housewives, Battlestar Galactica. These 'shows' are typically broadcast month(s) later here.
This is great for TV-watching geeks (we don't all play CS (ugh) - contary to some studies). Catch the first episode here, decide you like it, and you can download American bootlegs of the next episodes (DVDs aren't usually out).
Any net-based download system would want to be able to prevent users from countries where the shows had not yet been broadcast, otherwise it could catch on where it's not supposed to and some TV channels here could get angry. Of course, it's a similar problem with delayed DVD releases. Multi-region players and cheap shipping mean anyone import DVDs from abroad.
Also, steps would have to be taken to stop people saving the streams and redistributing them over p2p. Think how easy digital CDs and DVDs made it so easy to distribute music and movies (compared to copying tapes). No need to plug a cable from an analogue device into the PC and record in real-time. Just let it rip.
Think of the BBC's Listen Again which lets you listen to all their radio programmes for up to a week after broadcast. They're transmitted in.ra over RTSP. You can't right-click and save them to your computer, but with the right software you can save the stream (at several times real-time) and listen to them wherever/whenever you like (once you have re-encoded to mp3). Good enough, although the streams aren't great quality (better to use optical out on DAB radio and direct encoding on iRiver). Of course the BBC want to introduce podcasting (legal issues to sort out), so that should make it a lot easier.
Even if you do have a terrabyte hard-disc in your computer, no portable palyers do, so you would need to compress for that.
it is said that ogg vorbis quality 5 or 6 is transparent, at just over 1 megabyte/min and will play on iRiver or Rio players. if you got the 40GB model you could get several days of transparent audio on that, which you could then plug in to big PA system as the player as optical out.
the iRiver also comes with direct encoding. I plug mine into my DAB radio (optical connection) and can record in real-time to mp3 at same quality as broadcast. beats BBC listen again.
If 'technology' patents in the EU end up as silly as those in the US, we could probably stop spyware/adware by patenting "A program that installs itself without the user's knowledge, possibly by coming bundled in another package, monitors the user's internet activity and then displays (un)targetted advertising"
Could probably stop spam too similarly.
Patent adverts and compulsary user-registration and we wouldn't need the adblock and bugmenot extensions.
Slashdot Mirror
am i the only one now ashamed to be a firefox user? when i first got firebird (0.7) it was a respectable piece of open-source software to use.
now, (i posted on spreadfirefox about wikipedia), most firefox users don't even know what a wiki is.
i'm in gnome in fc3, and want konqueror back. you know you're in a truely geeky browser when the find function and handle regex.
lmao this is great. only blogs can hold malicous code. they are dangerous and must be banned. IE is safe and not to blame.
can we plz get a link?
ha ha, i'm too in firefox on fedora core 3, and yes, it's tough.
me, i tried everything to get infected. i tried an ActiveX plugin for Firefox, i tried running IE through Wine - still nothing very nasty.
in the end i wrote a perl script to open random double click ads in lynx.
Well, from the moon's POV call it a terran eclipse. Lunar eclipses must be more common than solar eclipses, because the Earth is bigger.
well said.
>They don't have to re-learn anything
i use firefox, thunderbird, gaim and openoffice on windows. i'd been half-way there for years, before i made the last leap, and installed those fedora cds.
the same happened when nero released a version for linux. rather than being appreciated for at last acknowledging the existence of linux, they were shunted for not being 'open' enough, and their product denounced inferior to the free alternative (k3b v nero).
don't moan that companies aren't trying to provide for linux users, if when they do release a product, you write bad reviews of it and criticise their attempts to get closer to a userbase they know little about, and can even fear.
say a spam email takes a second to delete. zombie computer sending thousands a day. run for a month wasted hours. average life expectancy 70 years. yeah, if you were your zombie computer sending spam for a couple of milleni you have wasted three person lives. it's not killing one person, it's killing everyone else very slightly.
I don't think the ISPs quite thought this plan though. Users aren't going to be able clean up their computers without tools such as ad-aware and spybot search & destroy. These ppl probably don't even have a virus checker at all. The necessary software is freely avaliable online, but without a net connection these ppl will have to buy $100 of stuff at PC World. And that'll need updating online anyway.
A better idea would be to restrict bandwidth and connections on infected computers. The ISP should also post everyone they disconnect a CD with the usual free tools and instructions on how to use them. Along with Firefox and Thunderbird, of course.
I agree though, action should be taken against owners of zombie computers. They're irresponsibly spoiling the internet for others. Such users who think 'Internet Explorer' is the internet and believe the internet = the web.
While such ignorant users should be allowed to run computers in private, once they're connected to the internet, they become a danger to everyone else. The way I see it, I'm not allowed to drive a car on the road without first taking a test to make sure I can use it safely, and recognise and repair common problems (or at least take the car to the garage). This requires knowledge of both how the mechanics of the engine work, and of the highway code. So why are people who have never even seen the inside of computer and don't realise that connecting an unpatched WinXP box to broadband is as dangerous as speeding down a motorway in the opposite direction to all traffic, allowed to do exactly that?
Surely no-one here on Slashes' Dot would make such a mistake.
if this computer i am currently on (windows xp) crashes, i hit the reboot key, and head upstairs to use my fedora box which has yet to die on me.
oh how i love those skull and cross bones.
If those two computers had IE for Mac OS installed...
Mouth now salivating at all those $50,000 ActiveX security holes.
area of a circle = pi(r^2). if pi was 4, the area would be four times the square of the radius, and our new 'circle' would be a square. if pi was three... hum a regular shape with 3/4 the area of a square of the same radius. no idea.
its even easier to win an iPod in a competition now than it was to get a digital radio a year or so ago. and if you can't get an old-model of eBay, you can always wait for a hand-me-down when your brother thinks "that's it. i'm getting a Rio."
how can apple still be selling so many iPods after they've flooded the market to the extent that their value is collapsing?
i have an iRiver H120. both cheaper (and shipped with accessories) and much better (or at least geekier) - it can play ogg vorbis, has optical in and out, and can do direct encoding.
all the images on that site are bitmaps. slashdot is now sending thousands of users to download them. that's a lot of bandwidth. ha ha, the site is now down. only wish i'd been downloading an image at the time and seen it stop half way. only then have you seen the power.
> 6: I have the right to watch that movie as many times as I want, for as long as the DVD exists (decades).
l e.ns?id=mg177237 82.500
Even if they do last that long, the ones you'll soon be getting from your Blockbuster store (if it isn't killed by broadband delivery or postal rental) certainly won't. I read in NewScientist recently about a patent for DVDs that will turn to goo after reacting with air. You get the DVD through the post, watch it, next week it's dust. How's that for a waste of resources? Probably cheaper than bandwidth though.
See destructing-DVDs (NewScientist)
http://www.newscientist.com/artic
done - hopefully openoffice devs pay attention to votes (cough mozilla (200 votes for single-window mode for over a year))
no i don't think it was meant as a joke, i also didn't mean to post as html formatted, cos it wasn't.
but yes, on windows openoffice 2 does look like adobe acrobat reader 7. i'm ok with it now, except that the toolbars won't lock correctly.
1) launches faster :)
2) new quickstarter is useless, cannot launch apps from it. hopefully will add shortcuts to all apps like in old one.
3) uses new opendocument format. soon to be supported by legacy release of openoffice 1.1 and koffice.
Here many ppl have iPods and other mp3 players but very few ppl have mobile DAB radios. (Not sure if/when they plan to turn off FM radio. Analogue TV is 2012, I think.) I cannot listen to 6music or any other DAB station whilst travelling in the morning. If the BBC were to podcast programs, I could funk my way to school with Craig Charles. Woo.
DAB and Digital TV are already going full steam with the backing of the BBC. The BBC want to start podcasting soon, so that might help it take off here, as soon as they get legal problems sorted.
As for podcasting ever killing commercial radio, you might as well expect amateur movies filmed by bloggers to destroy Hollywood and music on Creative Commons to kill EMI.
Podcasting really needs a better name. The 'pod' bit, is just another commercial plug for Apple. It wouldn't be acceptable to call all PCs 'Window-machines', would it? Or websites 'Internet Explorer sites'?
I have an iRiver H120. On their front page they have someone listening to their new mini player, whilst crunching on a juice apple. Subtle?
Art is art and the beauty is intended for all to admire. Mass cash is only made when famous originals is auctioned by a museum and sold to a 'private collector' (or vice versa). Artists aren't nearly as rich as actors or musicians, but their work will keep their name on a plaque for decades.
No-one 'private collector' is going to decide not to pay a million dollar sum for a Monet original because they can look at it online.
Whereas music and movies are business, with labels trying to squeeze every drop of cash possible.
I don't know. This comment started well. Then I forgot what I meant to say. I think I'll go practice my moxious manoeuveuresrasrses.
As reported in BBC Technology News last month, UK net users lead TV downloads. Everyone here is desperate to watch 24, The OC, Desperate Housewives, Battlestar Galactica. These 'shows' are typically broadcast month(s) later here.
.ra over RTSP. You can't right-click and save them to your computer, but with the right software you can save the stream (at several times real-time) and listen to them wherever/whenever you like (once you have re-encoded to mp3). Good enough, although the streams aren't great quality (better to use optical out on DAB radio and direct encoding on iRiver). Of course the BBC want to introduce podcasting (legal issues to sort out), so that should make it a lot easier.
This is great for TV-watching geeks (we don't all play CS (ugh) - contary to some studies). Catch the first episode here, decide you like it, and you can download American bootlegs of the next episodes (DVDs aren't usually out).
Any net-based download system would want to be able to prevent users from countries where the shows had not yet been broadcast, otherwise it could catch on where it's not supposed to and some TV channels here could get angry. Of course, it's a similar problem with delayed DVD releases. Multi-region players and cheap shipping mean anyone import DVDs from abroad.
Also, steps would have to be taken to stop people saving the streams and redistributing them over p2p. Think how easy digital CDs and DVDs made it so easy to distribute music and movies (compared to copying tapes). No need to plug a cable from an analogue device into the PC and record in real-time. Just let it rip.
Think of the BBC's Listen Again which lets you listen to all their radio programmes for up to a week after broadcast. They're transmitted in
Even if you do have a terrabyte hard-disc in your computer, no portable palyers do, so you would need to compress for that. it is said that ogg vorbis quality 5 or 6 is transparent, at just over 1 megabyte/min and will play on iRiver or Rio players. if you got the 40GB model you could get several days of transparent audio on that, which you could then plug in to big PA system as the player as optical out. the iRiver also comes with direct encoding. I plug mine into my DAB radio (optical connection) and can record in real-time to mp3 at same quality as broadcast. beats BBC listen again.
If 'technology' patents in the EU end up as silly as those in the US, we could probably stop spyware/adware by patenting
"A program that installs itself without the user's knowledge, possibly by coming bundled in another package, monitors the user's internet activity and then displays (un)targetted advertising"
Could probably stop spam too similarly.
Patent adverts and compulsary user-registration and we wouldn't need the adblock and bugmenot extensions.
google and friends have learnt a new word, and think themselves cool putting beta next to everything they're now producing.
how can a website be in beta? it's ridiculous.