>But the fact is that nero, unlike the open source burning tools >on linux, works no matter what.
>Neros advantage is that it works, period.
From the article: Unfortunately, NeroLinux was reluctant in recognizing the DVD-RW drive, after rebooting several times I was able to see the DVD-RW drive. I must note that I had an extremely complicated time working with NeroLinux. Many times it would not recognize any of my drives until I remounted them.
To me that doesn't sound like it works no matter what, so I don't think you can call it an advantage exactly.
>A little hobgoblin to pop out of their computer and whack them in the head with a mallet
Hey, that was actually a great idea for a new family of USB gadgets.
>no, since K3B doesn't have them.
Let me refrase then, which options from Nero are you missing in K3B?
>a VCD option out of the box, [snip]getting the dependency resolved,... is not fun
This is a problem with you distribution not K3B, take it up with them.
>K3B is nice, but Nero (at least under Windows) had a lot more options.
Then the real question is, do you use any of those options you find in Nero that K3B don't have?
Ok, I see. I also see why I have never encountered it, to me it sounds quite lame to have a gazillion bookmark entries in a flat list and not organizing them in a logic way using folders.
>The easy fix: Jimmac should switch to KDE:)
Perhaps, but then he would be forced to work faster:-) The Gnome icon themes has been ported to KDE, but I don't think they see much use. The reason, to few icons. The Gnome iconsets have way too few icons to cover the functionality of KDE.
>Konqueror has its own little disaster - the horzontally-expanding menus that take over your entire screen.
Strange, I have used Konqueror since one of the 2.0 betas and have never seen this problem. Can you please explain to me what you are talking about?
>even if tied to C++ a little too tightly for my taste.
And still they have more up to date and complete bindings to other languages than the competition. Damn C++ tie.
Packet writing for Linux has been available for years now, at least since the 2.3 series. It has been experimental and you have had to do some patching, but it has been possible. There have been problems getting some older drives to work, but never drives supporting Mt Rainier are usually no problem. Look at:
http://lists.suse.com/archive/packet-writing/
It does work without problems on 128MB ram, you don't have to do anything really. Perhaps increase with 256MB swap just to be safe for those corner cases:-) The thing is how Linux tend to fill up the memory, it is just lazy in reclaiming it that's why it is consistently maxing out. I used 128MB for years whitout any problems, it almost always was at 98% plus 64MB or more in swap. But you don't notice any performance loss when running, you can try it yourself and see. Perhaps the only way you'll get convinced(Use the mem option when booting). Only slowing you will see is in app start-up since you don't have so large disk cache, but it's about working not starting and stopping applications.
As a curiosity, I for a time used 48MB to run a machine with KDE2.2. It was ok, as long as you didn't open too many apps, more than 5 Konqueror windows and it started swapping like mad:-)
At my previous job we used for GroupWise some time. But we merged with another company, and had to go for one common solution for several sites. For some reason they chose Exchange/Outlook, but we were luky. This was aproximatly something like a month before "I Love you" struck, about a week or so later we used Notes:-) Never got any experience on Exchange.
>What equivalently-priced PC hardware?
Exactly, to get something roughly the same size you end up with something like this.
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4804935206.html
And it's slightly bigger 3 times more expensive, have lover specs. And don't come with any SW.
That's usually a case of stupidity from the webmasters, but google should know better. But I think they have promised support for more browser as they continue testing(it's only beta). MS on the other hand are a company already found guilty in anticompetetiv behavior, and it looks like the haven't stopped with it either.
You are right the word is way to go KDE. This article on the other hand are somewhat lacking in this regard.The writer has this gem in his conclusion describing Konqueror. "The only browsers that are slower at scripts are Opera 6 and Mozilla 1.0, both of which are old releases that have long since been replaced with much faster versions." And continues on ignoring the fact that Konqueror 3.2, the one he used, was released 03 February 2004. And have since been replaced, by a release considered to be faster.
>Are we comparing apples to oranges here?
Yes, and probably to bananas too.
But let's be serious for a moment, and take a look at what kinds of bugs we are talking about.
Many of the recent bugs in RH are in the kind of applications which MS don't bundle with any version of windows, like the recent bugs found in xpdf.
Those bugs in xpdf actually affected several applications, and the result several patches. For windows this kind of bugs result in only one patch, even if several parts is affected.
Another common category of bugs in Linux systems are the kind making it possible for local users to gain root access. Since administrator mode is more or less the default on windows this is not comparable either.
Having this in mind and removing the bugs who don't have a comparable parts, making it apples to apples. Then I think the number of bugs in Linux would bee close to windows 15. And then you can sort the bugs after how easy they are to exploit, and see which is really more secure.
>An employee or ex-employee posting the source code on the internet without permission from the >copyright holder (the company) would be guilty of copyright violation
But he has permission if the code is GPL'ed. Since GPL does not alow any futher restrictions on the code.
Jepp, HotJava it was:-) The FAQ is dated too, your first link say version 3. That's in Sun-speak probably 1.1.3 or 1.3 for us mere mortals.
I actually downloaded it to try, for fun. Sadly it only shows the splashscreen and hangs with an exception:-( Most likely because I have too new java version(1.5) and I don't feel like downgrading.
As for Mozilla in java i don't know. But Sun released a, at least prof of concept, java based browser back with the first java releases. Not sure if it's developed anymore.
Don't remember it's name either, but I remember a friend demoing it back in '96-'97. Same one who showed me NSC Mosaic in '93:-)
How they are going to " hopefully to sell some good Sun iron in the process" I can't see, since what they are talking about open sourcing Solaris for x86. The Solaris version running on those good Sun irons are the Sparc version, and that's basically a whole different version of Solaris.
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Suse packages are alredy avalible.
You forgot one: In Korea only old people uses Gnome.
It's usability, something like 99.9% of those who know the Ubuntu Linux distribution immediately understands what Kubuntu are.
>Have you tried the simple "Switch to Classic" view in XP
You have to find it first tho.......
>But the fact is that nero, unlike the open source burning tools
>on linux, works no matter what.
>Neros advantage is that it works, period.
From the article:
Unfortunately, NeroLinux was reluctant in recognizing the DVD-RW drive, after rebooting several times I was able to see the DVD-RW drive. I must note that I had an extremely complicated time working with NeroLinux. Many times it would not recognize any of my drives until I remounted them.
To me that doesn't sound like it works no matter what, so I don't think you can call it an advantage exactly.
>A little hobgoblin to pop out of their computer and whack them in the head with a mallet
Hey, that was actually a great idea for a new family of USB gadgets.
>no, since K3B doesn't have them.
Let me refrase then, which options from Nero are you missing in K3B?
>a VCD option out of the box, [snip]getting the dependency resolved,... is not fun
This is a problem with you distribution not K3B, take it up with them.
>K3B is nice, but Nero (at least under Windows) had a lot more options.
Then the real question is, do you use any of those options you find in Nero that K3B don't have?
Ok, I see. I also see why I have never encountered it, to me it sounds quite lame to have a gazillion bookmark entries in a flat list and not organizing them in a logic way using folders.
>The easy fix: Jimmac should switch to KDE :)
Perhaps, but then he would be forced to work faster:-) The Gnome icon themes has been ported to KDE, but I don't think they see much use. The reason, to few icons. The Gnome iconsets have way too few icons to cover the functionality of KDE.
>Konqueror has its own little disaster - the horzontally-expanding menus that take over your entire screen.
Strange, I have used Konqueror since one of the 2.0 betas and have never seen this problem. Can you please explain to me what you are talking about?
>even if tied to C++ a little too tightly for my taste. And still they have more up to date and complete bindings to other languages than the competition. Damn C++ tie.
Packet writing for Linux has been available for years now, at least since the 2.3 series. It has been experimental and you have had to do some patching, but it has been possible. There have been problems getting some older drives to work, but never drives supporting Mt Rainier are usually no problem. Look at: http://lists.suse.com/archive/packet-writing/
You mean like the way GNOME started to write their own multimedia framework from scratch becouse aRts was written in C++?
It does work without problems on 128MB ram, you don't have to do anything really. Perhaps increase with 256MB swap just to be safe for those corner cases:-) The thing is how Linux tend to fill up the memory, it is just lazy in reclaiming it that's why it is consistently maxing out. I used 128MB for years whitout any problems, it almost always was at 98% plus 64MB or more in swap. But you don't notice any performance loss when running, you can try it yourself and see. Perhaps the only way you'll get convinced(Use the mem option when booting). Only slowing you will see is in app start-up since you don't have so large disk cache, but it's about working not starting and stopping applications. As a curiosity, I for a time used 48MB to run a machine with KDE2.2. It was ok, as long as you didn't open too many apps, more than 5 Konqueror windows and it started swapping like mad:-)
At my previous job we used for GroupWise some time. But we merged with another company, and had to go for one common solution for several sites. For some reason they chose Exchange/Outlook, but we were luky. This was aproximatly something like a month before "I Love you" struck, about a week or so later we used Notes:-) Never got any experience on Exchange.
>What equivalently-priced PC hardware?l
Exactly, to get something roughly the same size you end up with something like this.
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4804935206.htm
And it's slightly bigger 3 times more expensive, have lover specs. And don't come with any SW.
That's usually a case of stupidity from the webmasters, but google should know better. But I think they have promised support for more browser as they continue testing(it's only beta). MS on the other hand are a company already found guilty in anticompetetiv behavior, and it looks like the haven't stopped with it either.
You are right the word is way to go KDE. This article on the other hand are somewhat lacking in this regard.The writer has this gem in his conclusion describing Konqueror. "The only browsers that are slower at scripts are Opera 6 and Mozilla 1.0, both of which are old releases that have long since been replaced with much faster versions." And continues on ignoring the fact that Konqueror 3.2, the one he used, was released 03 February 2004. And have since been replaced, by a release considered to be faster.
>Are we comparing apples to oranges here? Yes, and probably to bananas too.
But let's be serious for a moment, and take a look at what kinds of bugs we are talking about.
Many of the recent bugs in RH are in the kind of applications which MS don't bundle with any version of windows, like the recent bugs found in xpdf.
Those bugs in xpdf actually affected several applications, and the result several patches. For windows this kind of bugs result in only one patch, even if several parts is affected.
Another common category of bugs in Linux systems are the kind making it possible for local users to gain root access. Since administrator mode is more or less the default on windows this is not comparable either.
Having this in mind and removing the bugs who don't have a comparable parts, making it apples to apples. Then I think the number of bugs in Linux would bee close to windows 15. And then you can sort the bugs after how easy they are to exploit, and see which is really more secure.
>An employee or ex-employee posting the source code on the internet without permission from the >copyright holder (the company) would be guilty of copyright violation But he has permission if the code is GPL'ed. Since GPL does not alow any futher restrictions on the code.
Actually all KDE libs are required to be LGPL or GPL compatible BSD.
Jepp, HotJava it was:-) The FAQ is dated too, your first link say version 3. That's in Sun-speak probably 1.1.3 or 1.3 for us mere mortals. I actually downloaded it to try, for fun. Sadly it only shows the splashscreen and hangs with an exception:-( Most likely because I have too new java version(1.5) and I don't feel like downgrading.
As for Mozilla in java i don't know. But Sun released a, at least prof of concept, java based browser back with the first java releases. Not sure if it's developed anymore. Don't remember it's name either, but I remember a friend demoing it back in '96-'97. Same one who showed me NSC Mosaic in '93:-)
How they are going to " hopefully to sell some good Sun iron in the process" I can't see, since what they are talking about open sourcing Solaris for x86. The Solaris version running on those good Sun irons are the Sparc version, and that's basically a whole different version of Solaris.