Seeing how MS is acting, I suspect its going to be like playing "Whack_A_Mole" with them.. Sure, stuff like Never10 and GWXToolbox block the crap now, but whats to say MS doesn't change *something* that bypasses the preventions in either of these (or other tools)? Its gonna become even more of an "Arms-Race" than it is now.. I thank my lucky stars I gave up sucking on the MS teat when I retired in 2010 from nearly 20 years as a sysadmin.. Now its all Linux on my systems..
Since I believe this and Autopatcher actually are pulling updates from the MS servers, I suspect its just a matter of time before MS does *something* to prevent any access to the update servers from other than actual WU systems on Windows machines..
Because more and more laptops require you to tear it down to the frame just to swap the hard drive? You can thank Apple and their "thin is in"design aesthetic for this one, as many of the laptop OEMs are trying to make their laptops look as sleek and clean looking as a Macbook and the first thing to go? Easy to remove HDD access.
Which is exactly why I won't buy/recommend any laptops besides Dell corporate models (Latitude/Precision). They're simple to swap drives (usually 4 screws), and in fact, my current personal laptop is a Dell Precision M4400, and the drive in it, is changed quite frequently, since I have several drives with different Linux distros on them. I was asked to work on a fairly new consumer-grade Dell (Inspiron) don't recall the model, where you had to literally disassemble the entire laptop to get at the drive. Not to mention the fact that Dell laptops (consumer and corporate models) pretty much do Linux flawlessly...
Management wants you to train your H1B replacement? Ok, I'll "train" him.. give him subtly wrong information, just wrong enough to slowly, over a period of weeks/months, to eventually fuck up the company. Go out to dinner with a bunch of your fellow to-be-replaced workers, and get them to pass the word to everybody else getting canned, to do the same thing.. Don't write anything down that can get back to management, all by word-of-mouth, and even though you get canned, you can be happy in the knowledge that the fucking company will swirl down the drain in the not-to-distant future..
Just say no to bloatware, a clean reinstall of your os is getting to be mandatory.. ANYthing the manufacturer puts on your new computer besides the base os and any basic necessary drivers is BLOATWARE and should be removed.. Of course, *some* of us, when we buy a new pc, take ALL of the spyware/bloatware/crapware off and put Linux on... Guess that makes "Windows NSA edition" bloatware... heh
I love how copyright fanbois love to use that word "agree".. I, for one, have NEVER *once* "agreed" to ANY TOS/EULA.. The corps seem to think 50 pages of gobbledeegook that only a lawyer could possibly understand that you click a box saying you "agree" to whatEVER is in that 50 pages is a contract.. Ummm.. No, its NOT.. When I bought my house, I must have signed my name a hundred times on what was indisputably a CONTRACT.. Never signed my name to any TOS or EULA. and never will.... Go fuck yourself, corporations...
Or you can just not use systemd, if you dont like it then dont use it.
Easy to say, significantly LESS easy to do.. I use/prefer either Debian or Ubuntu, and am currently on Ubuntu 14.04.. Since both the latest Debian (Jessie) and Ubuntu (16.04) now have systemd, as do most other well-known distros. Its beginning to look like I'm going to have to back to my "Linux roots", namely Slackware, where I started, back in 1995, when Ubuntu 14.04 goes out of support in 2019. From what I can gather, Pat V hasn't (nor will he) pollute Slackware with Systemd.
It's enough to make a cynical paranoid think Microsoft is being paid to be this obnoxious and intrusive. Paid by whom? I'll leave that to the conspiracy theorists.
Does the term "Windows NSA edition" give you any ideas? After watching from the sidelines (I use Linux exclusively) the lengths MS goes to, trying to get 10 on EVERYbodys system, I'd guess that name would be 100% accurate...
I've begun referring to Windows 10 as "Windows NSA edition", or alternatively, a CTD, Computer-Transmitted Disease.. It certainly *acts* like an STD.. Damn glad I gave up using MS products after I retired. Now its 100% Linux...
Lemme tell you, its NOT just iot stuff thats afflicted with requirements to use a company owned website to configure/program the device. I wanted a clock radio that was also able to play shoutcast and other streaming audio sources. I found one for a great price by Acoustic Research, I'd always thought they had good products and went ahead and bought the unit. The first one I bought I found out after going around with their tech support for a month or so, would NOT EVEN do what the product info/brochure stated it would. I raised a big stink and they wound up sending me a more expensive model, which *did* work correctly per their advertised specs.. Here's the bitch: To program the unit you had to go to a 3rd party website and select the stations you wanted to listen to, which then programmed the unit, after which you could select between those stations freely. Since you had to register to use the website, they had my email address and whaddaya know, a couple of years after I bought the damn thing, I get an email telling me that the programming website is going away.. So now, as long as the unit continues to work, I can listen to the already programmed stations, but cannot add/change them after the website goes away.. A few months after that email the fucking thing quit connecting to my wifi and became a brick.. FUCK YOU ACOUSTIC RESEARCH!
Germany has a constitutional protection of the rooms you live in. Nobody may enter without your permission not even the landlord, and especially not the police. The only exception is when there is acute danger (like somebody crying for their life behind the door) or when there is a grave crime and a warrant ordered by a judge.
We *used* to have *that* here too.... Its all gone now.. George Orwell was right, just 32 years early....
Trusting MS to be honest is like trusting a rattlesnake not to bite.. After using and supporting MS products for damn near 20 years, when I retired I decided I was done with their bullshit.. After seeing what a turd in the punchbowl Windows 10 is, I couldn't be happier.. Linux 100%
Yup... I've taken to calling Windows 10 a CTD, think STD for computers... I retired in 2010 from supporting/using MS products starting in 1991, and decided I was done with using MS products on my home systems. After seeing what a privacy nightmare 10 is, I couldn't be happier with my decision.. Since I'm retired, I have become the defacto "tech support" for my neighborhood, and recommend those who ask, and are running Windows 7 or 8/8.1 to STAY where they are, and I provide that wonderful little "GWX Toolbox" to jam up the forced "upgrade" to Windows 10 for those who take my advice (to stay on 7/8/8.1)... I've had quite a bit of success in moving quite a few folks over to Ubuntu, including several people who bought new systems and found it had 10 on it.. Every one I've upgraded to Linux has been happy with the improved response of their system and the lack of need for an AV..
I've found a LOT of them, if they won't work under Wine, they may very well work with Crossover, which is a paid "version" of Wine, which is under heavy development. It *does* cost ~$40, but when you're not paying for Windows, its a small price to pay to be able to use s/w you're familar with under Linux...
Everytime one of these Windows 10 stories comes out and I read the story and the comments (yes I do BOTH.. I know its out-of-style on/. ) I can't help myself... I nearly fall out of my chair laughing at both those who MUST use MS products, and those who only *think* they do.. The articles all seem to be surprised at how much of an asshole MS has turned out to be, and oh the comments.. they're priceless.. The MS trolls are soooo precious.. Great entertainment for those of us who left the MS ecosystem years ago and now only use Linux or Mac.. In my case, its Linux.. I retired in 2010 after supporting MS products since 1991. Even in 2010, it was becoming clear that MS considered *your* pc to actually be THEIR pc, and I decided around 2011, I was done with MS.. Now after 5 years of being MS-free, those of you still using Windows (or ANY MS product, for that matter) is great entertainment for those of us who DON'T.....
If this machine running an AV is so intimately tied to a medical procedure having to do with the human heart, I hope to God its not also on the internet and is a standalone machine. As a standalone machine, I don't see any reason for any AV beyond perhaps a scanner if/when a USB drive is inserted. And since the machine in question has an AV that so spectacularly crashed, I'm gonna go out on a limb and speculate it was running Windows.. (shudder)
So basically, if you are still running Windows, for WHATever reason, *your* computer (and its data) now belongs to Microsoft.. I feel a great deal of sympathy for those folks who are still on the MS "treadmill"..... As for myself, I jumped off that about 5 years ago, and couldn't be happier...
Oh sure, Windows 10 *looks* pretty, works reasonably well, but if you take into account the spyware aspects of it, it comes out being an "attractive nuisance", or as I like to call it, a CTD, a computer-transmitted disease, not unlike an STD
Sure glad I dumped Windows about 5 years ago. I used/supported it for nearly 20 years, but after I retired in 2010, I decided I was done with it.. Looks like I made the right decision...
Kinda makes you think that SCOTUS considers corporations to be more of a "citizen" then actual human-being citizens..... Perhaps this is where we are today... "America.. Owned and Operated by corporations..."
What with the privacy nightmare that *is* Windows 10, I see more and more people abandoning that spyware-laden crap for Linux. Ever since I retired from using/supporting MS products back in 2010, I've quit using MS products on my families systems and NObody here misses Windows.. To keep myself busy, I started, with a few friends/ex-coworkers, a small (very small) business doing "computer janitorial services", AND migrating an ever-increasing number of people over to Linux. Since Windows 10 came out we've done quite a few migrations for folks who bought a new system during the holidays, learned about what a nightmare Windows 10 is, came to us for an alternative, which *is* Linux (X/L/KUbuntu/Mint).
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On that note, I refer to Windows 10 as a CTD (Computer-Transmitted Disease) or alternatively "Windows NSA Edition"
Seeing how MS is acting, I suspect its going to be like playing "Whack_A_Mole" with them.. Sure, stuff like Never10 and GWXToolbox block the crap now, but whats to say MS doesn't change *something* that bypasses the preventions in either of these (or other tools)? Its gonna become even more of an "Arms-Race" than it is now.. I thank my lucky stars I gave up sucking on the MS teat when I retired in 2010 from nearly 20 years as a sysadmin.. Now its all Linux on my systems..
Since I believe this and Autopatcher actually are pulling updates from the MS servers, I suspect its just a matter of time before MS does *something* to prevent any access to the update servers from other than actual WU systems on Windows machines..
Because more and more laptops require you to tear it down to the frame just to swap the hard drive? You can thank Apple and their "thin is in"design aesthetic for this one, as many of the laptop OEMs are trying to make their laptops look as sleek and clean looking as a Macbook and the first thing to go? Easy to remove HDD access.
Which is exactly why I won't buy/recommend any laptops besides Dell corporate models (Latitude/Precision). They're simple to swap drives (usually 4 screws), and in fact, my current personal laptop is a Dell Precision M4400, and the drive in it, is changed quite frequently, since I have several drives with different Linux distros on them. I was asked to work on a fairly new consumer-grade Dell (Inspiron) don't recall the model, where you had to literally disassemble the entire laptop to get at the drive. Not to mention the fact that Dell laptops (consumer and corporate models) pretty much do Linux flawlessly...
Management wants you to train your H1B replacement? Ok, I'll "train" him.. give him subtly wrong information, just wrong enough to slowly, over a period of weeks/months, to eventually fuck up the company. Go out to dinner with a bunch of your fellow to-be-replaced workers, and get them to pass the word to everybody else getting canned, to do the same thing.. Don't write anything down that can get back to management, all by word-of-mouth, and even though you get canned, you can be happy in the knowledge that the fucking company will swirl down the drain in the not-to-distant future..
Just say no to bloatware, a clean reinstall of your os is getting to be mandatory.. ANYthing the manufacturer puts on your new computer besides the base os and any basic necessary drivers is BLOATWARE and should be removed.. Of course, *some* of us, when we buy a new pc, take ALL of the spyware/bloatware/crapware off and put Linux on... Guess that makes "Windows NSA edition" bloatware... heh
I love how copyright fanbois love to use that word "agree".. I, for one, have NEVER *once* "agreed" to ANY TOS/EULA.. The corps seem to think 50 pages of gobbledeegook that only a lawyer could possibly understand that you click a box saying you "agree" to whatEVER is in that 50 pages is a contract.. Ummm.. No, its NOT.. When I bought my house, I must have signed my name a hundred times on what was indisputably a CONTRACT.. Never signed my name to any TOS or EULA. and never will.... Go fuck yourself, corporations...
Or you can just not use systemd, if you dont like it then dont use it.
Easy to say, significantly LESS easy to do.. I use/prefer either Debian or Ubuntu, and am currently on Ubuntu 14.04.. Since both the latest Debian (Jessie) and Ubuntu (16.04) now have systemd, as do most other well-known distros. Its beginning to look like I'm going to have to back to my "Linux roots", namely Slackware, where I started, back in 1995, when Ubuntu 14.04 goes out of support in 2019. From what I can gather, Pat V hasn't (nor will he) pollute Slackware with Systemd.
It's enough to make a cynical paranoid think Microsoft is being paid to be this obnoxious and intrusive. Paid by whom? I'll leave that to the conspiracy theorists.
Does the term "Windows NSA edition" give you any ideas? After watching from the sidelines (I use Linux exclusively) the lengths MS goes to, trying to get 10 on EVERYbodys system, I'd guess that name would be 100% accurate...
I've begun referring to Windows 10 as "Windows NSA edition", or alternatively, a CTD, Computer-Transmitted Disease.. It certainly *acts* like an STD.. Damn glad I gave up using MS products after I retired. Now its 100% Linux...
Lemme tell you, its NOT just iot stuff thats afflicted with requirements to use a company owned website to configure/program the device. I wanted a clock radio that was also able to play shoutcast and other streaming audio sources. I found one for a great price by Acoustic Research, I'd always thought they had good products and went ahead and bought the unit. The first one I bought I found out after going around with their tech support for a month or so, would NOT EVEN do what the product info/brochure stated it would. I raised a big stink and they wound up sending me a more expensive model, which *did* work correctly per their advertised specs.. Here's the bitch: To program the unit you had to go to a 3rd party website and select the stations you wanted to listen to, which then programmed the unit, after which you could select between those stations freely. Since you had to register to use the website, they had my email address and whaddaya know, a couple of years after I bought the damn thing, I get an email telling me that the programming website is going away.. So now, as long as the unit continues to work, I can listen to the already programmed stations, but cannot add/change them after the website goes away.. A few months after that email the fucking thing quit connecting to my wifi and became a brick.. FUCK YOU ACOUSTIC RESEARCH!
Germany has a constitutional protection of the rooms you live in. Nobody may enter without your permission not even the landlord, and especially not the police. The only exception is when there is acute danger (like somebody crying for their life behind the door) or when there is a grave crime and a warrant ordered by a judge.
We *used* to have *that* here too.... Its all gone now.. George Orwell was right, just 32 years early....
systemd? ick...... I think that sums it up quite nicely...
Trusting MS to be honest is like trusting a rattlesnake not to bite.. After using and supporting MS products for damn near 20 years, when I retired I decided I was done with their bullshit.. After seeing what a turd in the punchbowl Windows 10 is, I couldn't be happier.. Linux 100%
Yup... I've taken to calling Windows 10 a CTD, think STD for computers... I retired in 2010 from supporting/using MS products starting in 1991, and decided I was done with using MS products on my home systems. After seeing what a privacy nightmare 10 is, I couldn't be happier with my decision.. Since I'm retired, I have become the defacto "tech support" for my neighborhood, and recommend those who ask, and are running Windows 7 or 8/8.1 to STAY where they are, and I provide that wonderful little "GWX Toolbox" to jam up the forced "upgrade" to Windows 10 for those who take my advice (to stay on 7/8/8.1)... I've had quite a bit of success in moving quite a few folks over to Ubuntu, including several people who bought new systems and found it had 10 on it.. Every one I've upgraded to Linux has been happy with the improved response of their system and the lack of need for an AV..
FUCK MICROSOFT!! (*somebody* had to say it.. the fanbois never will...)
I've found a LOT of them, if they won't work under Wine, they may very well work with Crossover, which is a paid "version" of Wine, which is under heavy development. It *does* cost ~$40, but when you're not paying for Windows, its a small price to pay to be able to use s/w you're familar with under Linux...
Everytime one of these Windows 10 stories comes out and I read the story and the comments (yes I do BOTH.. I know its out-of-style on /. ) I can't help myself... I nearly fall out of my chair laughing at both those who MUST use MS products, and those who only *think* they do.. The articles all seem to be surprised at how much of an asshole MS has turned out to be, and oh the comments.. they're priceless.. The MS trolls are soooo precious.. Great entertainment for those of us who left the MS ecosystem years ago and now only use Linux or Mac.. In my case, its Linux.. I retired in 2010 after supporting MS products since 1991. Even in 2010, it was becoming clear that MS considered *your* pc to actually be THEIR pc, and I decided around 2011, I was done with MS.. Now after 5 years of being MS-free, those of you still using Windows (or ANY MS product, for that matter) is great entertainment for those of us who DON'T.....
If this machine running an AV is so intimately tied to a medical procedure having to do with the human heart, I hope to God its not also on the internet and is a standalone machine. As a standalone machine, I don't see any reason for any AV beyond perhaps a scanner if/when a USB drive is inserted. And since the machine in question has an AV that so spectacularly crashed, I'm gonna go out on a limb and speculate it was running Windows.. (shudder)
So basically, if you are still running Windows, for WHATever reason, *your* computer (and its data) now belongs to Microsoft.. I feel a great deal of sympathy for those folks who are still on the MS "treadmill"..... As for myself, I jumped off that about 5 years ago, and couldn't be happier...
Now us Linux users are making fun of Windows users.... HA! HA! (channels Nelson Muntz)
Oh sure, Windows 10 *looks* pretty, works reasonably well, but if you take into account the spyware aspects of it, it comes out being an "attractive nuisance", or as I like to call it, a CTD, a computer-transmitted disease, not unlike an STD
Sure glad I dumped Windows about 5 years ago. I used/supported it for nearly 20 years, but after I retired in 2010, I decided I was done with it.. Looks like I made the right decision...
Kinda makes you think that SCOTUS considers corporations to be more of a "citizen" then actual human-being citizens..... Perhaps this is where we are today... "America.. Owned and Operated by corporations..."
You GO, Linus!!!
What with the privacy nightmare that *is* Windows 10, I see more and more people abandoning that spyware-laden crap for Linux. Ever since I retired from using/supporting MS products back in 2010, I've quit using MS products on my families systems and NObody here misses Windows.. To keep myself busy, I started, with a few friends/ex-coworkers, a small (very small) business doing "computer janitorial services", AND migrating an ever-increasing number of people
over to Linux. Since Windows 10 came out we've done quite a few migrations for folks who bought a new system during the holidays, learned about what a
nightmare Windows 10 is, came to us for an alternative, which *is* Linux (X/L/KUbuntu/Mint).