Maybe someone can provide some background to this story (if its true), but a long time ago I heard that back in the 70s/80s when IBM was taken to court, they had put all documentation into a mess inside a giant warehouse and let the other side filter through it. Funny, annoying, but clever. Anyone have more information on this?
I thought about doing the same thing when I bought a new laptop a few months ago, but then I realized Vista is actually a good operating system and there's no sense in taking a step back to XP. The security warnings get annoying quick, but a few minutes of searching on the Web took care of that. With Aero disabled, Vista looks almost identical to XP. And I'm certain few people have reformatted to XP given that they just paid for a copy of Vista.
Maybe bought by STORES to sell or preload on computers, but actual SALES? Not even possible.
It's "not even possible" because you believe that since Vista is packaged with other products, it somehow doesn't qualify as a "sale" for Microsoft. Obviously, this is wrong. When you buy a computer, you are buying more than hardware... you're also buying the software that makes it run, too.
When you buy a Coke with a Big Mac, does that not technically qualify as a sale for Coke? Sure, Coke isn't directly handing you the product, but they have indirectly. A sale is a sale. The only difference here is that McDonalds (or whatever the resale company is) purchased it ahead of time and is reselling it as part of a package.
However you slice it, Microsoft has sold 40M licenses to individuals and the public/private sector. They are all sales if they generated income:)
You are correct that the techniques you described do not make software/webpages more useful, but they do make it more usable. That's the key difference here. The usability, likeliness, and efficiency of operation of software or a website can increase with a better design.
Users having trouble extracting information from a page, or not having elements clearly outlined really inhibits an interface. I'm not saying that applying rounded corners to every design will help its usability, but I can guarantee that rounded corners, drop shadows, and hovers can serve very fulfilling purposes. It's no coincidence that rounded corners and drop shadows are used extensively in advertising.
Most people do share my opinion. It's been almost ten years since it was announced, and the only tangible pieces the public has seen are some sound files, code bits, pictures, and trailers. I am not in a minority thinking that TF2 is vaporware.
You're either a new TF2 fan and haven't been clinging around for ten years, or you're just a fanatic. Either way, you trying to argue this is a bit ridiculous. Ten years with very little to show for it: that's my perspective.
It still is vaporware. In August 2006, we saw a trailer for the first time in years. But remember that we also witnessed a trailer back in 98/99. We waited six or so years to see something more, and all we got was another trailer. And now its been almost a full year since the last release and there's nothing new to see/talk about! The game is as dead to me (and it should be for most other people) as it was eight years ago until it's on the shelves!
*sigh* I really wish people would stop referring to the Internet as "teh innernets" so I could spend less time typing and get back to fondling my hand, err girlfriend. Wait, uhm?
Actually I think you'd be surprised how much PHP development is done within Windows and later pushed to a Linux server. In fact, where I work (federal government), PHP development and deployment is done exclusively on Windows. So I don't think this product is off-base. Besides, I'm thinking the Windows crowd is more inclined to purchase an IDE than the Linux folks.
Your way of thinking is outdated. There are many frameworks that facilitate proper MVC, templating, and a separation of duties. Check out CodeIgniter, CakePHP, and symfony, three of the most popular frameworks for PHP. Development techniques and approaches in PHP have changed significantly in the last few years.
Wrong. All team leaders, or any kind of leader, has to answer to their superior(s). If they aren't delivering results, you can be certain they will face some sort of consequences. They have to prove their worth by what they produce.
If the leaders you work with don't have to prove themselves, it's either because they are the owner of their own private company (with no shareholders to answer to) and/or they've paid their dues by showing proper discretion, talent, and keenness that does not require them to demonstrate their judgment any longer.
As someone who doesn't have or watch TV (except downloaded shows), I really hope this comes to fruition. I don't care about ads or commercials at this time -- being able to watch legitimate, high-quality shows and movies will be a blessing. I'll be waiting patiently!
I don't need to read up on it, I've been using it. And it's not standardized. The concept of tagging data isn't new -- it's just new to the Web and "blogs" and "social networks". Ever heard of metadata? Tagging is shorthand metadata on a global scale. I suggest you be the one to do some research. Here's some links for you: Tags (metadata) and Metadata
I would agree. The current idea of what constitutes Web 2.0 doesn't fit the label. If I had to propose a new definition for Web 2.0, it would be the beginning shift of desktop applications to the Web. I just can't consider a trend in graphics, tagging, and social networking as a major advancement in the Web. Yeah, it's cool and it can be fun, but you said it best when you called it the "3282 patch". That's a more appropriate title for what's going on.
What's really cool is the beginning of desktop to web applications. There are a lot of innovative applications floating around -- mostly niche (being able to create a.doc document online is not really interesting) -- that allow you (or firms) to do things they couldn't do before. These applications have had impressive effects on their users. Despite the many shortcomings of the Web, I truly believe niche applications are more deserving of the Web 2.0 title.
All industries are affected by patents, but being able to conduct business, for many firms, has absolutely nothing to do with patents. You can't patent the ability to sell a product, charge for labour, and so forth. The original poster conveys the idea that it would be impossible to make a buck if all patents were actively enforced, which is obviously not true.
The only reason it's possible to do business in the United States at all is because 90% of patents are left lying in a drawer rather than being rigorously enforced.
Oh come on, could you have possibly made a more generalized statement? Since when do all American businesses rely on patents, or rely on a patent remaining in hibernation? This nonsense sounds like its coming straight from the mouth of someone who has their head buried in an industry held above (or beneath) the water by patents.
Did you wake up this morning and forget about the doctors, plumbers, programmers, McDonald's employees, sales reps, and many other factions whose doing business is not forcibly restricted by patents?
It is no doubt that many industries are affected by patents, but to say that this applies to all areas of business is just ridiculous.
Oh Please!!! Specalised applications are a pain in the neck to support, the real issue here is that who ever implemented them did not fully understand what the end user requirements were. There is a real art of extracting that sort of information out of people and it requires an inquiring mind, good communication and people skills.
Are you suggesting that a businesses requirements do not change over time? That because an in-house application needs customization, it's the fault of shortsighted business analyst? Give me a break. A firm's operations, and software requirements, can change with the direction of the wind. An excellent business analyst can only bring you so close to hitting the bullseye -- after that, the firm's direction dictates how well you stay on course.
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Maybe someone can provide some background to this story (if its true), but a long time ago I heard that back in the 70s/80s when IBM was taken to court, they had put all documentation into a mess inside a giant warehouse and let the other side filter through it. Funny, annoying, but clever. Anyone have more information on this?
I'm talking about regular consumers, not businesses. Your point is valid but out of context here.
I thought about doing the same thing when I bought a new laptop a few months ago, but then I realized Vista is actually a good operating system and there's no sense in taking a step back to XP. The security warnings get annoying quick, but a few minutes of searching on the Web took care of that. With Aero disabled, Vista looks almost identical to XP. And I'm certain few people have reformatted to XP given that they just paid for a copy of Vista.
Maybe bought by STORES to sell or preload on computers, but actual SALES? Not even possible.
:)
It's "not even possible" because you believe that since Vista is packaged with other products, it somehow doesn't qualify as a "sale" for Microsoft. Obviously, this is wrong. When you buy a computer, you are buying more than hardware... you're also buying the software that makes it run, too.
When you buy a Coke with a Big Mac, does that not technically qualify as a sale for Coke? Sure, Coke isn't directly handing you the product, but they have indirectly. A sale is a sale. The only difference here is that McDonalds (or whatever the resale company is) purchased it ahead of time and is reselling it as part of a package.
However you slice it, Microsoft has sold 40M licenses to individuals and the public/private sector. They are all sales if they generated income
You are correct that the techniques you described do not make software/webpages more useful, but they do make it more usable. That's the key difference here. The usability, likeliness, and efficiency of operation of software or a website can increase with a better design.
Users having trouble extracting information from a page, or not having elements clearly outlined really inhibits an interface. I'm not saying that applying rounded corners to every design will help its usability, but I can guarantee that rounded corners, drop shadows, and hovers can serve very fulfilling purposes. It's no coincidence that rounded corners and drop shadows are used extensively in advertising.
I'll consider it a serious problem if soldiers start bringing wigs, lipstick and dresses into combat with them!
Most people do share my opinion. It's been almost ten years since it was announced, and the only tangible pieces the public has seen are some sound files, code bits, pictures, and trailers. I am not in a minority thinking that TF2 is vaporware.
You're either a new TF2 fan and haven't been clinging around for ten years, or you're just a fanatic. Either way, you trying to argue this is a bit ridiculous. Ten years with very little to show for it: that's my perspective.
It still is vaporware. In August 2006, we saw a trailer for the first time in years. But remember that we also witnessed a trailer back in 98/99. We waited six or so years to see something more, and all we got was another trailer. And now its been almost a full year since the last release and there's nothing new to see/talk about! The game is as dead to me (and it should be for most other people) as it was eight years ago until it's on the shelves!
If it is, I'm guilty on all 69 counts.
*sigh* I really wish people would stop referring to the Internet as "teh innernets" so I could spend less time typing and get back to fondling my hand, err girlfriend. Wait, uhm?
Actually I think you'd be surprised how much PHP development is done within Windows and later pushed to a Linux server. In fact, where I work (federal government), PHP development and deployment is done exclusively on Windows. So I don't think this product is off-base. Besides, I'm thinking the Windows crowd is more inclined to purchase an IDE than the Linux folks.
Your way of thinking is outdated. There are many frameworks that facilitate proper MVC, templating, and a separation of duties. Check out CodeIgniter, CakePHP, and symfony, three of the most popular frameworks for PHP. Development techniques and approaches in PHP have changed significantly in the last few years.
I, for one, am very sick of this retarded meme overlord.
I'm right here, you insensitive clod!
Or sleep and pleasure? Not very well.
Speak for yourself. I sleep on top of a big pile of money with many beautiful ladies.
the leaders who never have to prove themselves
Wrong. All team leaders, or any kind of leader, has to answer to their superior(s). If they aren't delivering results, you can be certain they will face some sort of consequences. They have to prove their worth by what they produce.
If the leaders you work with don't have to prove themselves, it's either because they are the owner of their own private company (with no shareholders to answer to) and/or they've paid their dues by showing proper discretion, talent, and keenness that does not require them to demonstrate their judgment any longer.
As someone who doesn't have or watch TV (except downloaded shows), I really hope this comes to fruition. I don't care about ads or commercials at this time -- being able to watch legitimate, high-quality shows and movies will be a blessing. I'll be waiting patiently!
Square peg, round hole.
I'll be damned... that's the same excuse my wife uses when I try to get her in bed!
I don't need to read up on it, I've been using it. And it's not standardized. The concept of tagging data isn't new -- it's just new to the Web and "blogs" and "social networks". Ever heard of metadata? Tagging is shorthand metadata on a global scale. I suggest you be the one to do some research. Here's some links for you: Tags (metadata) and Metadata
I would agree. The current idea of what constitutes Web 2.0 doesn't fit the label. If I had to propose a new definition for Web 2.0, it would be the beginning shift of desktop applications to the Web. I just can't consider a trend in graphics, tagging, and social networking as a major advancement in the Web. Yeah, it's cool and it can be fun, but you said it best when you called it the "3282 patch". That's a more appropriate title for what's going on.
.doc document online is not really interesting) -- that allow you (or firms) to do things they couldn't do before. These applications have had impressive effects on their users. Despite the many shortcomings of the Web, I truly believe niche applications are more deserving of the Web 2.0 title.
What's really cool is the beginning of desktop to web applications. There are a lot of innovative applications floating around -- mostly niche (being able to create a
All industries are affected by patents, but being able to conduct business, for many firms, has absolutely nothing to do with patents. You can't patent the ability to sell a product, charge for labour, and so forth. The original poster conveys the idea that it would be impossible to make a buck if all patents were actively enforced, which is obviously not true.
The only reason it's possible to do business in the United States at all is because 90% of patents are left lying in a drawer rather than being rigorously enforced.
Oh come on, could you have possibly made a more generalized statement? Since when do all American businesses rely on patents, or rely on a patent remaining in hibernation? This nonsense sounds like its coming straight from the mouth of someone who has their head buried in an industry held above (or beneath) the water by patents.
Did you wake up this morning and forget about the doctors, plumbers, programmers, McDonald's employees, sales reps, and many other factions whose doing business is not forcibly restricted by patents?
It is no doubt that many industries are affected by patents, but to say that this applies to all areas of business is just ridiculous.
Oh Please!!! Specalised applications are a pain in the neck to support, the real issue here is that who ever implemented them did not fully understand what the end user requirements were. There is a real art of extracting that sort of information out of people and it requires an inquiring mind, good communication and people skills.
Are you suggesting that a businesses requirements do not change over time? That because an in-house application needs customization, it's the fault of shortsighted business analyst? Give me a break. A firm's operations, and software requirements, can change with the direction of the wind. An excellent business analyst can only bring you so close to hitting the bullseye -- after that, the firm's direction dictates how well you stay on course.
instead of holding your breath.
You waited three years to tell... &*$%#@ [NO CARRIER]
I don't think many people can get too excited about statistical analysis queries of world wide PHP users at 8 in the morning.
And you thought the morning erection of the Slashdot male was caused by what, women?
Can we have a more pertinent review on something actually cutting-edge such as the capacious floppy drive?