I think the plan is to conquer the SGI market, not buy into it. I wouldn't be suprised to hear about a deal in the works for many of the reasons you mention, but SGI has been on shakey ground recently and their market might be ripe for someone like Apple to come along with a hot new OS and multi-processing hardware at an attractive price.
The point (you failed to make) is wrong. My aunt is a school teacher in Philly and she recently asked me to help her buy a computer. Do you really think I should recommend she buy a Mac and run LinuxPPC? A novice computer user?
MacOS X, should it ever ship, will run every app that I run today. The fact that there is so much software coming out for Linux is because Linux needs so much software. The Linux "to do" list is a long one.
A unified, single source manufacturer of software and hardware means greater quality control and compatability btwn my hardware and the OS. No long hunt for updated drivers on 10 different websites because my computer is acting buggy.
These posts! So many of them today talking about Apple's stupid decisions and how they are dead in the water. Folks, check the scoreboard. Apple is profitable and wealthy. That isn't dead or even dying, that is called thriving.
Apple should have split up their hardware and software divisions long ago. Even if one goes out of business the other has a better chance of surviving.
Split them how? For what reason? How does splitting them benefit either side? Isn't the close relationship btwn the hardware and the software Apple's greatest strength? And why is one or the other going to go out of business? I still don't see the major problem with Apple's business model, seems like it's working pretty well. You should really think before you post a sentence like that.
I think you just agreed with what he said, it'll render an html page real nice. Well, zippa-dee-do! Hurray for html rendering, it only took 2 years. When will the rest of it be ready for prime time? If anyone wants to start a pool, I'll take 2010.
Articles about the "U.S. losing its edge" are continually retreaded in the media by alarmists who are looking for a story where one doesn't exist. I remember hearing over and over about how we were cooked because the Japaneese had a much better work ethic and were so focused on technology and business strategy. Us poor lazy Americans couldn't compete. That was 15 years ago. The United States is doomed to dissapoint because of the amount of wasted potential we squander every day, but the beauty of it is that what potential we do put to good use is usually strong enough to toast the competition in the long run anyway.
Capitalism dictates that if there is a market for these cool gadgets, they will come.
It's a dream come true for an enemy to have the locations of their adversaries assets at ALL times, in ALL places, not just while in their territory or while at war. This is one more way to compromise a force that depends on stealth for it's survival. The submarine force is a global force. Enemy territory doesn't mean very much to a blue water navy. Subs hunt each other all over the globe.
Couldn't this make it easier to approximate a submarine's location and course if an enemy is able to map the locations of each underwater modem station and then trace the route of out going email?
The decision to split MS was done with in the hopes that it would level the playing field and provide a fair market space for MS competitors. Yes, Windows will continue to dominate and MS apps will continue to suck, if past releases are any indication, but by leveling the playing field, market forces will begin to work. Capitalism provides for a competition model that should lead to innovation and a quality product. It was the MS monopoly which emerged so rapidly into the new computer market that ended much of the survival of the fitest stucture existing in other markets. MS took advantage of their new power to crush/buy/litigate their competition out of business. If MS cannot create the best product AND no longer has unfair monopoly power, then given enough time their competitors will either smother them or leave them in their dust.
It'll take time, but it's how the system works in America, and so far it really has worked.
I think the Otaku defense only serves to further emphasize how poorly the people at Fuji understand marketing. They don't want rabid fans? People who live for the show? People who take every opportunity to tell others about Iron Chef and recommend they watch it? Fuji would do well to take a lesson from the model of Babylon 5, X-Files, Star Trek, the Simpsons, and Reboot. All dependent on a core of fans who have sustained a lasting interest in each program, sometimes well past the end of it's broadcast life.
I work in advertising, and we would kill to see a fan base develop for one of our clients. There is no way this could be a bad thing. Anyone remember the guy from Turkey "Welcome to my homepage, I kiss you"? His website spread across the globe in a matter of weeks. Every person I know saw it. Can you imagine what the same situation would do for the ratings of a television show? Iron chef has that potential.
So far, I know one person besides myself who has seen Iron Chef on television, but I have seen it mentioned twice now on/. The internet is the best thing to ever happen to this show, it doesn't cost them a dime, and they're don't like it.
With leadership like this, fan sites may someday be all that is left of this show.
The "loadable bundles" method of modularization seems far superior to the use of DLLs that need to be registered, and require the computer to be rebooted, in order to install.
Great, glad you think so. Remember that because it is going to come up later in my post.
The new UI is good-looking, but the lack of customization features is disappointing.
I think the UI will be very customizable. From Ars: "You can still move or rename Extras.rsrc in DP4 and end up with a somewhat spotty approximation of the old platinum interface. No, I'm not going to screenshot it again. Yes, this means that themes will be possible. No, this does not mean that Apple will release the specs for such theme files."
I've also read info from previous DP's about modifying things such as window zooming (defaults write com.apple.finder ZoomRects NO) and using Interface Builder to directly edit Extras.rsrc. To me this all sounds like the novice users will have an endless variety of freeware/shareware products to customize their UI, and more advanced users can do it themselves. It's a shame Apple can't please everyone, but the door is far from closed in this respect.
As always, Apple brings a great product to the table--nonetheless, I still refuse to buy one of their products.
I've heard it before and it makes no more sense today than on any other day.
In my mind, the benefits of an open system and a larger user base make the WinTel platform superior for product development. If Apple were smart, they would try to make it easier to port Windows applications to OS X.
Mac users are not hurting for apps. If ones entire platform choice is based on a specific software package, then by all means choose accordingly, but otherwise lack of software is not a problem for Mac users. Where there is a gap, one can always use Virtual PC. Most other popular aps like MS Office already have fine Mac versions. And why should the Mac OS always be a slave to poorly ported windows software? Instead of ports, Apple is trying very hard to serve the dev community by introducing better environments such as Cocoa. From Ars Techica: Previously known as the "Yellow Box", and as the OpenStep APIs before that, Cocoa is the most modern API in Mac OS X. The name change from Yellow Box to Cocoa is yet another horrible computer industry pun centered around the Java programming language. It's meant to highlight the fact that all of the Yellow Box APIs are now accessible via Java as well as Objective C.
Cocoa is NEXTSTEP's native API updated for the modern world and made accessible via Java. As any old NEXTSTEP developer will tell you (at length) if given the chance, NEXTSTEP had technology in the 1980's that's just beginning to appear in mainstream computing today: object reuse, sophisticated message passing, network transparency, runtime binding, clean separation of the UI from the "business logic", and platform independence."
I've read a lot of good about Cocoa, it may be worth a look.
In my mind, the benefits of an open system and a larger user base make the WinTel platform superior for product development.
More application developers write for Windows than for the Mac, and bridging the gap between the two platforms and promoting more software development would do far more to improve the Mac platform than simply making their machines technically superior.
Okay, you've already admitted that the loadable bundles are far superior to DLLs. And that the machines are becoming 'technically superior', so why not use some of this insight of yours and consider the possibility that these innovations along with all the other nice features under the hood of OS X could one day redefine the landscape of the computer world. Perhaps you should reconsider your quantity over quality way of thinking. Microsoft's time on top may not only be limited to the Justice Department's legal proceedings, with open source, and now OS X, the future of the modern OS and consumer choice has never been brighter.
M16 from 5/21/00 on my Macintosh: rendered with red squares.
The sad state of things at the moment is that multi-browser compliant code has to support the lowest common denominator (ie. NS4), so if you were doing that then you would not be able to use dotted anyway.
The sad state of things at the moment concerning multi-browser compliant code and designing to the lowest common denominator is the fact that it all could have been prevented by Microsoft. Had they felt the need to allow the internet to continue to be platform independent when they first began work on their original browser, they would have concentrated on developing html rendering as close as possible to that of the Netscape browser which, at the time, was used by the vast majority of people on the internet. Instead they spent no time ensuring consistency and all their time on monopolization strategies that have them in court right now. There have been a lot of non-standards complaint work on both sides since then, but in the begining I remember wondering, "why do all these pages look different in internet explorer".
Apple reverses course, WILL ship OS X this summer.
Due to recent threats by 'Bilestoad' on Slashdot that he would "never touch another Apple product again", Steve Jobs abruptly reversed course and scheduled the release of OS X for late June/early July. When asked for comment, Jobs exclaimed, "We're all really shaken up, but feel we've dodged the bullet".
I don't know about the validity of Herbert going senile and using ghost writers, but it makes sense. Each book following volume 1 was more miserable than the last. A complete downhill slide. I believe it was the strength of the first book which allowed me to read the others. My expectations were continually dissappointed, but my hopes were so high I just kept reading.
I saw the movie before reading the books. I liked the movie, although I like it less now having read the books. Original Sci-Fi of the caliber of Dune is rare. Dune was a well done movie. It was an abomination to the purists of Herbert's work, but it was still a cool movie. The funny thing about the movie with all it's changes is that the changes were pointless. Usually a movie studio will butcher a literary work in order to increase the audience appeal and sell more tickets, but the changes in Dune were for no reason other than the director/screen writer thought they had better ideas than Frank Herbert. That's a heady assumption, and in this case, a wrong one.
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Have you ever tried being on topic?
I think the plan is to conquer the SGI market, not buy into it. I wouldn't be suprised to hear about a deal in the works for many of the reasons you mention, but SGI has been on shakey ground recently and their market might be ripe for someone like Apple to come along with a hot new OS and multi-processing hardware at an attractive price.
The point (you failed to make) is wrong. My aunt is a school teacher in Philly and she recently asked me to help her buy a computer. Do you really think I should recommend she buy a Mac and run LinuxPPC? A novice computer user?
MacOS X, should it ever ship, will run every app that I run today. The fact that there is so much software coming out for Linux is because Linux needs so much software. The Linux "to do" list is a long one.
A unified, single source manufacturer of software and hardware means greater quality control and compatability btwn my hardware and the OS. No long hunt for updated drivers on 10 different websites because my computer is acting buggy.
These posts! So many of them today talking about Apple's stupid decisions and how they are dead in the water. Folks, check the scoreboard. Apple is profitable and wealthy. That isn't dead or even dying, that is called thriving.
Apple should have split up their hardware and software divisions long ago. Even if one goes out of business the other has a better chance of surviving.
Split them how? For what reason? How does splitting them benefit either side? Isn't the close relationship btwn the hardware and the software Apple's greatest strength? And why is one or the other going to go out of business? I still don't see the major problem with Apple's business model, seems like it's working pretty well. You should really think before you post a sentence like that.
So ESR says Apple is doomed. Well take a number, now serving #4,345,234. I give this article a (Score: -1, Flamebait)
Please, let us all know WHEN anything other than an ALPHA version will be available.
I think you just agreed with what he said, it'll render an html page real nice. Well, zippa-dee-do! Hurray for html rendering, it only took 2 years. When will the rest of it be ready for prime time? If anyone wants to start a pool, I'll take 2010.
Articles about the "U.S. losing its edge" are continually retreaded in the media by alarmists who are looking for a story where one doesn't exist. I remember hearing over and over about how we were cooked because the Japaneese had a much better work ethic and were so focused on technology and business strategy. Us poor lazy Americans couldn't compete. That was 15 years ago. The United States is doomed to dissapoint because of the amount of wasted potential we squander every day, but the beauty of it is that what potential we do put to good use is usually strong enough to toast the competition in the long run anyway.
Capitalism dictates that if there is a market for these cool gadgets, they will come.
Somebody please moderate this up. I work in graphic design and it is right on the money.
I don't know about Super Computers, but that sure was a Super Comment.
Enuf said
All systems now ship with the traditional sized translucent buttonless mouse. The hockey puck is dead. Let us never speak of it again.
It's a dream come true for an enemy to have the locations of their adversaries assets at ALL times, in ALL places, not just while in their territory or while at war.
This is one more way to compromise a force that depends on stealth for it's survival. The submarine force is a global force. Enemy territory doesn't mean very much to a blue water navy. Subs hunt each other all over the globe.
Couldn't this make it easier to approximate a submarine's location and course if an enemy is able to map the locations of each underwater modem station and then trace the route of out going email?
The decision to split MS was done with in the hopes that it would level the playing field and provide a fair market space for MS competitors. Yes, Windows will continue to dominate and MS apps will continue to suck, if past releases are any indication, but by leveling the playing field, market forces will begin to work. Capitalism provides for a competition model that should lead to innovation and a quality product. It was the MS monopoly which emerged so rapidly into the new computer market that ended much of the survival of the fitest stucture existing in other markets. MS took advantage of their new power to crush/buy/litigate their competition out of business. If MS cannot create the best product AND no longer has unfair monopoly power, then given enough time their competitors will either smother them or leave them in their dust.
It'll take time, but it's how the system works in America, and so far it really has worked.
Other topics of discussion currently at www.ironchef.textonly.com:
The mispelling of Eel on line #342
Ridiculous capitalizion, how could they?!?!
Exclamation points: too many or not enough?
I think the Otaku defense only serves to further emphasize how poorly the people at Fuji understand marketing. They don't want rabid fans? People who live for the show? People who take every opportunity to tell others about Iron Chef and recommend they watch it? Fuji would do well to take a lesson from the model of Babylon 5, X-Files, Star Trek, the Simpsons, and Reboot. All dependent on a core of fans who have sustained a lasting interest in each program, sometimes well past the end of it's broadcast life.
I work in advertising, and we would kill to see a fan base develop for one of our clients. There is no way this could be a bad thing. Anyone remember the guy from Turkey "Welcome to my homepage, I kiss you"? His website spread across the globe in a matter of weeks. Every person I know saw it. Can you imagine what the same situation would do for the ratings of a television show? Iron chef has that potential.
/. The internet is the best thing to ever happen to this show, it doesn't cost them a dime, and they're don't like it.
So far, I know one person besides myself who has seen Iron Chef on television, but I have seen it mentioned twice now on
With leadership like this, fan sites may someday be all that is left of this show.
The "loadable bundles" method of modularization seems far superior to the use of DLLs that need to be registered, and require the computer to be rebooted, in order to install.
Great, glad you think so. Remember that because it is going to come up later in my post.
The new UI is good-looking, but the lack of customization features is disappointing.
I think the UI will be very customizable. From Ars: "You can still move or rename Extras.rsrc in DP4 and end up with a somewhat spotty approximation of the old platinum interface. No, I'm not going to screenshot it again. Yes, this means that themes will be possible. No, this does not mean that Apple will release the specs for such theme files."
I've also read info from previous DP's about modifying things such as window zooming (defaults write com.apple.finder ZoomRects NO) and using Interface Builder to directly edit Extras.rsrc. To me this all sounds like the novice users will have an endless variety of freeware/shareware products to customize their UI, and more advanced users can do it themselves. It's a shame Apple can't please everyone, but the door is far from closed in this respect.
As always, Apple brings a great product to the table--nonetheless, I still refuse to buy one of their products.
I've heard it before and it makes no more sense today than on any other day.
In my mind, the benefits of an open system and a larger user base make the WinTel platform superior for product development. If Apple were smart, they would try to make it easier to port Windows applications to OS X.
Mac users are not hurting for apps. If ones entire platform choice is based on a specific software package, then by all means choose accordingly, but otherwise lack of software is not a problem for Mac users. Where there is a gap, one can always use Virtual PC. Most other popular aps like MS Office already have fine Mac versions. And why should the Mac OS always be a slave to poorly ported windows software? Instead of ports, Apple is trying very hard to serve the dev community by introducing better environments such as Cocoa.
From Ars Techica:
Previously known as the "Yellow Box", and as the OpenStep APIs before that, Cocoa is the most modern API in Mac OS X. The name change from Yellow Box to Cocoa is yet another horrible computer industry pun centered around the Java programming language. It's meant to highlight the fact that all of the Yellow Box APIs are now accessible via Java as well as Objective C.
Cocoa is NEXTSTEP's native API updated for the modern world and made accessible via Java. As any old NEXTSTEP developer will tell you (at length) if given the chance, NEXTSTEP had technology in the 1980's that's just beginning to appear in mainstream computing today: object reuse, sophisticated message passing, network transparency, runtime binding, clean separation of the UI from the "business logic", and platform independence."
I've read a lot of good about Cocoa, it may be worth a look.
In my mind, the benefits of an open system and a larger user base make the WinTel platform superior for product development.
More application developers write for Windows than for the Mac, and bridging the gap between the two platforms and promoting more software development would do far more to improve the Mac platform than simply making their machines technically superior.
Okay, you've already admitted that the loadable bundles are far superior to DLLs. And that the machines are becoming 'technically superior', so why not use some of this insight of yours and consider the possibility that these innovations along with all the other nice features under the hood of OS X could one day redefine the landscape of the computer world. Perhaps you should reconsider your quantity over quality way of thinking. Microsoft's time on top may not only be limited to the Justice Department's legal proceedings, with open source, and now OS X, the future of the modern OS and consumer choice has never been brighter.
M16 from 5/21/00 on my Macintosh: rendered with red squares.
The sad state of things at the moment is that multi-browser compliant code has to support the lowest common denominator (ie. NS4), so if you were doing that then you would not be able to use dotted anyway.
The sad state of things at the moment concerning multi-browser compliant code and designing to the lowest common denominator is the fact that it all could have been prevented by Microsoft. Had they felt the need to allow the internet to continue to be platform independent when they first began work on their original browser, they would have concentrated on developing html rendering as close as possible to that of the Netscape browser which, at the time, was used by the vast majority of people on the internet. Instead they spent no time ensuring consistency and all their time on monopolization strategies that have them in court right now. There have been a lot of non-standards complaint work on both sides since then, but in the begining I remember wondering, "why do all these pages look different in internet explorer".
May 15, 2000
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Apple reverses course, WILL ship OS X this summer.
Due to recent threats by 'Bilestoad' on Slashdot that he would "never touch another Apple product again", Steve Jobs abruptly reversed course and scheduled the release of OS X for late June/early July. When asked for comment, Jobs exclaimed, "We're all really shaken up, but feel we've dodged the bullet".
Was it obvious before or after you read the article?
I don't know about the validity of Herbert going senile and using ghost writers, but it makes sense. Each book following volume 1 was more miserable than the last. A complete downhill slide. I believe it was the strength of the first book which allowed me to read the others. My expectations were continually dissappointed, but my hopes were so high I just kept reading.
I saw the movie before reading the books. I liked the movie, although I like it less now having read the books. Original Sci-Fi of the caliber of Dune is rare. Dune was a well done movie. It was an abomination to the purists of Herbert's work, but it was still a cool movie.
The funny thing about the movie with all it's changes is that the changes were pointless. Usually a movie studio will butcher a literary work in order to increase the audience appeal and sell more tickets, but the changes in Dune were for no reason other than the director/screen writer thought they had better ideas than Frank Herbert. That's a heady assumption, and in this case, a wrong one.
Did you shake your head smugly from side to side while typing that message?
I'm sure that it will be better than Star Wars.
If you're refering to Phantom Menace, I don't see how it could be any worse.
Jolt! Take that George, Jar Jar sucks, George.