Who's hiring? How much do they pay? What kind of environment do they expect us to work in? What kind of heirarchy do we have to work under? Do they have a dress code? Can we program what we want or only what we're told, etc, etc, etc.
There are countless reasons why capitalism is a failure. Let me ask you this, why do you enjoy your job so much? Does it have something to do with your paycheck?
Until MS/IBM/Apple/Adobe/Oracle/etc decide that they want to hire people like me who want to program, until they allow me to easily find a job with them that pays well, good benefits and no worries of layoffs I'll give everything I write away for free, while I'm playing Mr. Sys Admin.
Plus we have to acknowledge the fact that all of these people are working for money. They don't wake up and come into work each morning because they want to keep our astronauts safe. They do it only for the money.
That has to have some effect of their desire to communicate effectively when it might put their source of income at risk, or in an environment that discourages it.
Like you were saying managers know more than their employees. And since we pay them more I think the responsibility and consequences clearly fall into their hands. They should be able to balance between financial and safety concerns without risking human life.
That is, unless, of course, they want to relinquish their power and authority.:)
Fine, but please remember to keep your policies in your business and out of my home. This is a federal matter that compromises my rights and freedom as a citizen of this country, which goes far beyond your ability to effectively police your office.
I should not have to worry about my government spying on me because I use certain types of software that might have be used for illegal purposes. If they can do this to P2P they could do it to anything. How would you feel if your web browser informed your ISP and anyone who might be interested in your browsing habbits, even while you're surfing in the privacy of your home?
Be careful about how authoritative you think you can be. Security is an illusion. But liberty is not. You will understand this when you lose it.
Well, I did ask a few very pointy questions, but my venting must have upset you too much to provide any answers. Sorry about that.
Man I cannot believe what sets people off these days.
Honestly? Nothing you said really set me off, I was already set off before I hopped on slashdot to flame some fools. Sorry you got in the way. Sometimes its safer not to reply to my posts. Hope my words didn't hurt you too bad.
I tend to stereotype people into two groups, capitalists and non-capitalists. One of those groups frustrates me deeply. Guess which one.:)
So if I say something like "people like you" I'm really referring to the stereotype and not the individual. No hard feelings, eh?
Do you have any references to back that up? I don't know much about nuclear waste or how it compares to other things. I just know that it causes very bad things to happen when people are exposed to it for long periods of time. Even short periods of time could potentially be fatal in the sense that they wouldn't have died when they did if they weren't in direct contact with radioactive substances.
See, what bothers me here is that our government has been playing down radiation over the years as if there's nothing to worry about while we've been noticing an increase in unexplainable life-threatening diseases. There have been studies that suggest a correlation between cancer and geography. Which leads me to believe that radiation might play a key part in this cancer study. In Iraq, for example, there was a 1000% increase in birth defects after the first gulf war. One of the weapons we have been using is depleted uranium which is harmless until you ingest it.
But if coal and other forms of pollution are actually the cause of cancer then using nuclear energy would seem to be a preventative measure, along with air filtration, etc. Doesn't make much sense to me, but until they stop caring and talking about cancer I gotta state my beliefs. I believe that there are no excuses.
So I assume this "safe" engine has no nuclear waste. Is that correct or am I just ignorant?
I think nuclear waste is more dangerous than the pollution caused by combustion. But maybe I'm just paranoid or have an effinity towards cancer. I don't know.
This is why I don't like capitalism. Companies are not trying to find a cure for AIDS. They're trying to make money. Finding that cure, in a patentable form, would make them lots of money. But if it can't be cured syntheticly like that its probably more lucrative to just treat it.
Whatever happened to finding a cure for AIDS because you want to cure the people who have it? Whatever happened to loving eachother, caring about eachother or doing good things to help eachother, for the fuck of it?
I just hope people like you aren't running the companies and organizations trying to find a cure for AIDS.
How can any organization complain about money when PEOPLE ARE FUCKING DYING!
Those people mean nothing to people like you, is that it? They aren't worth treating unless someone pays you. Are you a capitalist?
Of course I expect them to give it away for free. People NEED it! Its not like some worthless piece of software or something.
What would you rather do, cure one person of AIDS and HIV or make a billion tax-free dollars?
I'd cure the person without stopping to think about it.
Uh, that would be why we call them zealots. They don't need facts to support their GNU religion. They've got faith!
But they have nothing in common with a terrorist. If anyhing they want to help society by taking away the ability of companies like Microsoft and SCO to have a monopoly. Certainly not by killing people who work for them. I would go so far as to say that only a pedophile would think OSS zealots are in any way related to terrorists.
Honestly, because anyone is stupid. I'm not talking ignorant. They've gone beyond ignorance. Anyone, today, can be absolutely retarded. Yet fully capable of arguing their retarded perspective of reality as if it were based in fact.
This happens when the average background noise of the media and propoganda stream spreads more lies than truth while society still agrees that its important to listen to this nonsense. (I'm talking television, radio, magazines, and advertisements) Just look at CNN and Fox, and their parent companies and all the companies they own. They don't need to stretch the truth to make it lie, just leave out a few important facts. Yet somehow us Microsoft bashers "don't have all the facts".
So they label us Score:0 Redundant, and go on continuing to ignore our lies. Gotta love it.
When everyone finally acknowledges the truth do you think we'll ever get an appology for the frustration they put us through?
I'm a fool and I think the existence of Linux proves my point. Global cooperation can easily beat any competitive and innovative capitalist corporation. Cut corners, find "reasonable" solutions and outsource all you want, a perfect solution does exist and the world will find it. It doesn't cost a lot of money to observe the world around you and learn. It costs a lot of time and patience since most of us are too busy ignoring it or working.
If we automated most of the world people have to do then we could ask more people to find these "perfect" solutions. But we're too busy being selfish and greedy to attempt to really cooperate and learn.
because we lost a shuttle and seven fine astronauts - along with our backbone as a people.
That's not the first time and we lost more than that. We lost those astronauts because we've never had the right kind of culture. You know what I'm talking about. The kind of culture that goes to space because it wants to explore. The kind that protects the lives of astronauts because it loves its people. The kind that cares more about life and living it than money.
Maybe we never had that kind of culture to begin with. But from my perspective its sad to watch us struggle to be number 1 while we prove to the world over and over again that we still don't understand what it means to love eachother.
Money is more important, here in America, than putting a colony on Mars or the Moon, even if we have the capability. We'd rather put a Pizza Hut and Pepsi billboard up there with lots of blinky lights and flashing colors, so we can sell advertisements and get rich quick.
That is our culture and until we're able to look at ourselves for what we really are and decide we want to change, nothing will help us. You can give NASA all the money in the world, they will still lose lives when they care more about that money than those astronauts. And what's their solution? Use robots so they don't have to worry about human life? Fine, whatever, we missed the point.
That's mostly because its so hard for some people to grasp the concept of software being both for production and experimentation, like the Linux kernel. They'll get it one of these days. Until then geek sites like slashdot will happily use any misconceptions to create flame-war traffic, page hits and ad sales. Its users generate all this controversy by repeating stupid comments that they probably know nothing about.
I think there might be potential health risks to radio frequency radiation. But not enough to be concerned about.
I would ask each of those parents if they heard anything about the Plowshares project. Back in the 1960s the US government allowed this project to explore the economic potential of nuclearexcavation on Nevada soil, among other places. Who knows how many other toxic or radioactive projects have existed or been in direct contact with the public. Anyone who thinks that WiFi, cell phone, TV and radio signals are harmful needs to look around them. I'm sure they can find something far more dangerous to their children than a little RF. How about each of those SUVs passing them by at 30 mph only 5 feet away as they stroll down the sidewalk.
And CNN is censored. They only show the violent and graphic images of people dying if they are the terrorists we want Americans to see: Saddam's brothers, etc. War and reality is far more bloody than CNN or a video game. I think we should show our kids what all us violent grown-ups really do in this wonderful world. Show them how our weapons affect each and every innocent life they have taken. Show them why guns hurt people, why its not cool to even pretend about violence.
Perhaps then it would be more difficult to be a hypocrite. Or at least we wouldn't feel so good about it. But until then I'm going to go on playing Postal 2, pretending all those bad guys are the voters responsible for this mess.
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Well, I say theft is justified when the public is taxed for media they might be using for theft. Don't you just love all this new age circular logic?
First lets do away with all these stupid taxes, then lets break down the MPAA and RIAA into their respective companies and ask each and every one of them to prove that their media is being stolen. Then lets find a way to prevent piracy or catch all these pirates. Arrr.
Or continue as we are, things seem to be working themselves out on their own. Before you know it they won't even be able to tell if anyone is stealing their stuff. That'll really annoy 'em.:)
Personally I want Time Warner to buy the MPAA and Apple to buy the RIAA, then use them both as a huge tax write off to put us another trillion or two in debt, whatever it takes, and make it illegal to ever bitch about piracy again. That way they'll be stealing from every American in a very good wholesome way that won't upset us too much, maybe take a couple points off our blood pressure.
They are trying to tell people like you that your precious society causes undo amounts of stress and frustration, occationally making people just want to snap and vent their anger through violence.
It is a reflection on reality, this reality that we all are helping to create. We are all responsible for the existence of violence in reality as well as these video games. All of us. Because we're doing nothing to prevent it. Except making it illegal, which is not a very good preventative measure. Lots of things are illegal, and now we have lots of criminals. See the point we're trying to make?
Maybe if you played some of these games like GTA:VC and Postal 2 it would make more sense. Some of the missions in Postal 2 involve things like paying bills, getting groceries, and voting. All very frustrating in our current form of society.
So instead of whine about these problems they sell a game that lets people vent their frustrations while making a profit. So don't pretend its not some form of meaningful expression. It is. And its just a game.
Anything we create that conveys a meaning, a message or an emotion is a form of expression. Its sometimes called art. See, back in the day we used to paint on cave walls, but today we can paint on anything from overpasses to texture memory within a video card. There are many new forms of expression and almost all of them are meaningful in some way.
All I can say is I know Outlook is exploitable. If I were in charge of security for that company Outlook would not be allowed on their networks. Nor would any Microsoft products without the latest patch sets, firewalls, anti-virus software and updates. I'm a UNIX admin. There are no excuses.
...instead of working on the product, you have to find what the vulnerability was, how to do damage control, how to re-structure how you do business so it doesn't happen again (i.e. redesign the network and create new security policies), and then have to get back to work on finishing the product while trying to make sure that anything cheaters would have gained from the source is fixed.
Yep. That's because a company is only as intelligent as its CEO. Should pay those guys more money or something.
Look, if management gave up control most techs would have their networks and systems completely secure. And a good backup plan would keep important information from being "stolen" or deleted. The very concept of information being taken as if it were a tangible object is almost laughable by today's standards.
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Who's hiring? How much do they pay? What kind of environment do they expect us to work in? What kind of heirarchy do we have to work under? Do they have a dress code? Can we program what we want or only what we're told, etc, etc, etc.
There are countless reasons why capitalism is a failure. Let me ask you this, why do you enjoy your job so much? Does it have something to do with your paycheck?
Until MS/IBM/Apple/Adobe/Oracle/etc decide that they want to hire people like me who want to program, until they allow me to easily find a job with them that pays well, good benefits and no worries of layoffs I'll give everything I write away for free, while I'm playing Mr. Sys Admin.
Plus we have to acknowledge the fact that all of these people are working for money. They don't wake up and come into work each morning because they want to keep our astronauts safe. They do it only for the money.
:)
That has to have some effect of their desire to communicate effectively when it might put their source of income at risk, or in an environment that discourages it.
Like you were saying managers know more than their employees. And since we pay them more I think the responsibility and consequences clearly fall into their hands. They should be able to balance between financial and safety concerns without risking human life.
That is, unless, of course, they want to relinquish their power and authority.
Fine, but please remember to keep your policies in your business and out of my home. This is a federal matter that compromises my rights and freedom as a citizen of this country, which goes far beyond your ability to effectively police your office.
I should not have to worry about my government spying on me because I use certain types of software that might have be used for illegal purposes. If they can do this to P2P they could do it to anything. How would you feel if your web browser informed your ISP and anyone who might be interested in your browsing habbits, even while you're surfing in the privacy of your home?
Be careful about how authoritative you think you can be. Security is an illusion. But liberty is not. You will understand this when you lose it.
Well, I did ask a few very pointy questions, but my venting must have upset you too much to provide any answers. Sorry about that.
:)
Man I cannot believe what sets people off these days.
Honestly? Nothing you said really set me off, I was already set off before I hopped on slashdot to flame some fools. Sorry you got in the way. Sometimes its safer not to reply to my posts. Hope my words didn't hurt you too bad.
I tend to stereotype people into two groups, capitalists and non-capitalists. One of those groups frustrates me deeply. Guess which one.
So if I say something like "people like you" I'm really referring to the stereotype and not the individual. No hard feelings, eh?
P.S. Preach mode rocks!
Do you have any references to back that up? I don't know much about nuclear waste or how it compares to other things. I just know that it causes very bad things to happen when people are exposed to it for long periods of time. Even short periods of time could potentially be fatal in the sense that they wouldn't have died when they did if they weren't in direct contact with radioactive substances.
See, what bothers me here is that our government has been playing down radiation over the years as if there's nothing to worry about while we've been noticing an increase in unexplainable life-threatening diseases. There have been studies that suggest a correlation between cancer and geography. Which leads me to believe that radiation might play a key part in this cancer study. In Iraq, for example, there was a 1000% increase in birth defects after the first gulf war. One of the weapons we have been using is depleted uranium which is harmless until you ingest it.
But if coal and other forms of pollution are actually the cause of cancer then using nuclear energy would seem to be a preventative measure, along with air filtration, etc. Doesn't make much sense to me, but until they stop caring and talking about cancer I gotta state my beliefs. I believe that there are no excuses.
I would invest in Honda and Sony, but I'm not an investor.
So I assume this "safe" engine has no nuclear waste. Is that correct or am I just ignorant?
I think nuclear waste is more dangerous than the pollution caused by combustion. But maybe I'm just paranoid or have an effinity towards cancer. I don't know.
This is why I don't like capitalism. Companies are not trying to find a cure for AIDS. They're trying to make money. Finding that cure, in a patentable form, would make them lots of money. But if it can't be cured syntheticly like that its probably more lucrative to just treat it.
Whatever happened to finding a cure for AIDS because you want to cure the people who have it? Whatever happened to loving eachother, caring about eachother or doing good things to help eachother, for the fuck of it?
I just hope people like you aren't running the companies and organizations trying to find a cure for AIDS.
How can any organization complain about money when PEOPLE ARE FUCKING DYING!
Those people mean nothing to people like you, is that it? They aren't worth treating unless someone pays you. Are you a capitalist?
Of course I expect them to give it away for free. People NEED it! Its not like some worthless piece of software or something.
What would you rather do, cure one person of AIDS and HIV or make a billion tax-free dollars?
I'd cure the person without stopping to think about it.
Uh, that would be why we call them zealots. They don't need facts to support their GNU religion. They've got faith!
But they have nothing in common with a terrorist. If anyhing they want to help society by taking away the ability of companies like Microsoft and SCO to have a monopoly. Certainly not by killing people who work for them. I would go so far as to say that only a pedophile would think OSS zealots are in any way related to terrorists.
I like your perspective. Its a good one! :)
Honestly, because anyone is stupid. I'm not talking ignorant. They've gone beyond ignorance. Anyone, today, can be absolutely retarded. Yet fully capable of arguing their retarded perspective of reality as if it were based in fact.
This happens when the average background noise of the media and propoganda stream spreads more lies than truth while society still agrees that its important to listen to this nonsense. (I'm talking television, radio, magazines, and advertisements) Just look at CNN and Fox, and their parent companies and all the companies they own. They don't need to stretch the truth to make it lie, just leave out a few important facts. Yet somehow us Microsoft bashers "don't have all the facts".
So they label us Score:0 Redundant, and go on continuing to ignore our lies. Gotta love it.
When everyone finally acknowledges the truth do you think we'll ever get an appology for the frustration they put us through?
I'm a fool and I think the existence of Linux proves my point. Global cooperation can easily beat any competitive and innovative capitalist corporation. Cut corners, find "reasonable" solutions and outsource all you want, a perfect solution does exist and the world will find it. It doesn't cost a lot of money to observe the world around you and learn. It costs a lot of time and patience since most of us are too busy ignoring it or working.
If we automated most of the world people have to do then we could ask more people to find these "perfect" solutions. But we're too busy being selfish and greedy to attempt to really cooperate and learn.
because we lost a shuttle and seven fine astronauts - along with our backbone as a people.
That's not the first time and we lost more than that. We lost those astronauts because we've never had the right kind of culture. You know what I'm talking about. The kind of culture that goes to space because it wants to explore. The kind that protects the lives of astronauts because it loves its people. The kind that cares more about life and living it than money.
Maybe we never had that kind of culture to begin with. But from my perspective its sad to watch us struggle to be number 1 while we prove to the world over and over again that we still don't understand what it means to love eachother.
Money is more important, here in America, than putting a colony on Mars or the Moon, even if we have the capability. We'd rather put a Pizza Hut and Pepsi billboard up there with lots of blinky lights and flashing colors, so we can sell advertisements and get rich quick.
That is our culture and until we're able to look at ourselves for what we really are and decide we want to change, nothing will help us. You can give NASA all the money in the world, they will still lose lives when they care more about that money than those astronauts. And what's their solution? Use robots so they don't have to worry about human life? Fine, whatever, we missed the point.
That's mostly because its so hard for some people to grasp the concept of software being both for production and experimentation, like the Linux kernel. They'll get it one of these days. Until then geek sites like slashdot will happily use any misconceptions to create flame-war traffic, page hits and ad sales. Its users generate all this controversy by repeating stupid comments that they probably know nothing about.
Reminds me of the degree-from-blah-blah-blah-university carrying executive management. Hard to talk to, rude, impatient, think they know-it-all, etc.
Nobody knows much of anything, but everyone has an ego. But ours really is bigger, we worked for it.
Its all related to that "culture" thing at NASA.
Grab URL, middle click in window or click File->New Tab and then middle click in window. Yes, not so quick.
Do you see what frustrates us about Windows users and all the little problems they find with Linux?
they automatically assume it's stupid because it's not exactly the way they've always done it.
Exactly!
So it is your opinion that non-ionizing radiation has no heath risks?
The internet is a library of information.
I think there might be potential health risks to radio frequency radiation. But not enough to be concerned about.
I would ask each of those parents if they heard anything about the Plowshares project. Back in the 1960s the US government allowed this project to explore the economic potential of nuclear excavation on Nevada soil, among other places. Who knows how many other toxic or radioactive projects have existed or been in direct contact with the public. Anyone who thinks that WiFi, cell phone, TV and radio signals are harmful needs to look around them. I'm sure they can find something far more dangerous to their children than a little RF. How about each of those SUVs passing them by at 30 mph only 5 feet away as they stroll down the sidewalk.
I thought number 3 was hilarious! "They are not selling anything." HaHa! :)
And CNN is censored. They only show the violent and graphic images of people dying if they are the terrorists we want Americans to see: Saddam's brothers, etc. War and reality is far more bloody than CNN or a video game. I think we should show our kids what all us violent grown-ups really do in this wonderful world. Show them how our weapons affect each and every innocent life they have taken. Show them why guns hurt people, why its not cool to even pretend about violence.
Perhaps then it would be more difficult to be a hypocrite. Or at least we wouldn't feel so good about it. But until then I'm going to go on playing Postal 2, pretending all those bad guys are the voters responsible for this mess.
Well, I say theft is justified when the public is taxed for media they might be using for theft. Don't you just love all this new age circular logic?
:)
First lets do away with all these stupid taxes, then lets break down the MPAA and RIAA into their respective companies and ask each and every one of them to prove that their media is being stolen. Then lets find a way to prevent piracy or catch all these pirates. Arrr.
Or continue as we are, things seem to be working themselves out on their own. Before you know it they won't even be able to tell if anyone is stealing their stuff. That'll really annoy 'em.
Personally I want Time Warner to buy the MPAA and Apple to buy the RIAA, then use them both as a huge tax write off to put us another trillion or two in debt, whatever it takes, and make it illegal to ever bitch about piracy again. That way they'll be stealing from every American in a very good wholesome way that won't upset us too much, maybe take a couple points off our blood pressure.
They are trying to tell people like you that your precious society causes undo amounts of stress and frustration, occationally making people just want to snap and vent their anger through violence.
It is a reflection on reality, this reality that we all are helping to create. We are all responsible for the existence of violence in reality as well as these video games. All of us. Because we're doing nothing to prevent it. Except making it illegal, which is not a very good preventative measure. Lots of things are illegal, and now we have lots of criminals. See the point we're trying to make?
Maybe if you played some of these games like GTA:VC and Postal 2 it would make more sense. Some of the missions in Postal 2 involve things like paying bills, getting groceries, and voting. All very frustrating in our current form of society.
So instead of whine about these problems they sell a game that lets people vent their frustrations while making a profit. So don't pretend its not some form of meaningful expression. It is. And its just a game.
Anything we create that conveys a meaning, a message or an emotion is a form of expression. Its sometimes called art. See, back in the day we used to paint on cave walls, but today we can paint on anything from overpasses to texture memory within a video card. There are many new forms of expression and almost all of them are meaningful in some way.
All I can say is I know Outlook is exploitable. If I were in charge of security for that company Outlook would not be allowed on their networks. Nor would any Microsoft products without the latest patch sets, firewalls, anti-virus software and updates. I'm a UNIX admin. There are no excuses.
...instead of working on the product, you have to find what the vulnerability was, how to do damage control, how to re-structure how you do business so it doesn't happen again (i.e. redesign the network and create new security policies), and then have to get back to work on finishing the product while trying to make sure that anything cheaters would have gained from the source is fixed.
Yep. That's because a company is only as intelligent as its CEO. Should pay those guys more money or something.
Look, if management gave up control most techs would have their networks and systems completely secure. And a good backup plan would keep important information from being "stolen" or deleted. The very concept of information being taken as if it were a tangible object is almost laughable by today's standards.
maybe, just maybe, software patents are a bad idea..