But please remember that matching code is not necessarily infringement. The code could have been copied from the Linux kernel into UNIX. No one knows until it has been proven one way or the other.
The predator is the intelligent person who understands what it means to be an entrepreneur. They create marketing departments for the sole purpose of selling useless widgets for a profit. These marketing departments hire psychologists.
The prey on the ignorant masses that purchase things they see advertised by "cool" people on TV. They are being manipulated every day by commercialism and our use of psychologists.
"We are writing today about the latter prohibition. We are concerned that members of the APA are ignoring it, for monetary gain. They are not using their knowledge to mitigate the causes of human suffering. They are using it instead to promote and assist the commercial exploitation and manipulation of children. As individuals, that is their right, of course. But as a profession dedicated to human welfare, psychologists have a responsibility to the public. The APA should not condone such behavior among its members, nor should psychologists look the other way."
Looks to me like they are preying on children. If children, like the elderly, in our society are not one form of prey I don't know what is. This is truely sick, btw. This is "our way of life".
Everyone keeps complaining, "We need more money", "more money", "more money", "more money". What will it take for people to realize we can't have the resources, environment and honesty everyone needs until we do away with money and the waste, excuses and corruption that are associated with it?
Answer: A new type of media.
I think we can all agree that asteroids pose a potential threat to our way of life, yet we're unwilling to admit it in a social context. I think we can all agree that nuclear weapons pose a potential threat to our way of life, yet we continue using them with each new war we choose to fight. I think we can all agree to continue to disagree, forever, until nothing gets solved.
I'd work for free for the right group of people. Y'know, those freedom loving people we used to read about in our history classes. Not democrates or republicans or capitalists, but real humanitarians.
But why do we want to divert a disaster? Why save humanity? I have faith that it can save itself, or fade into extinction. Both are the natural way of life. What part of humanity is worth saving? Why save humanity? Because we're conscious! Because we can learn what it means to love! Because is it possible for the universe to have meaning without us?!?!
I think we have some social problems to tackle before we continue bitching about money or the end of the world.
I came to that conclusion 3 years ago. What's taking you guys so long?
CD and DVD media is great as a replacement for the floppy disk. But harddrives have been the only affordable transportable mass-storage media for years. DVD has never been an option for me, but I suspect it will replace CDRW media within a couple years.
Its not just governments and courts, capitalism is a predatory system. We thrive on it. Land owners, businesses, courts and governments, public utilities, TV and telephone services, and any other organization of authority will always use their power to take more money than they require or deserve.
We're nothing but used car salemen. Which is why I keep saying capitalism is not the best form of society. I don't want to be another predator, and I hate being the prey. Its just frustrating.
I prefer this new alternative over here: "you can have this software for free, and this generic hardware costs N price, which is lower than our competitor's X, Y or Z and offers the same functionality. And no more per-seat licenses, ever."
What I find so interesting is how companies like Microsoft and Sun are like immovable objects while Linux seems to be an unstoppable force. Sooner or later one of them has to give in. Who will it be?
Personally I think both Sun and Microsoft have been giving in lately, trying to make their pricing structure more appealing to their customers who are starting to hear about the alternatives.
If they are charging a royalty, then we all have the right to burn CD-Rs of our music and give them to anyone for free. We can't sell them, but the RIAA gave us the right to trade them when they made us pay that royalty. If they don't like it they can always change the law and give us back our royalty payments. Until then its a free for all.
I mean I get more bandwidth over sneaker net than I do across the internet. And I don't have to worry about my government or the **AA intercepting my personal private data.
My family doesn't care if they ever get broadband, and now I'm finally starting to agree with them. Our society just ain't smart enough to know what to do with this technology, so we police it, tax it and commercialize it. Its almost forced monopolization of an extremely valuable service. Bra vo. Watch us turn the internet into the next cable TV network or telephone system. Watch us repeat our historical examples over and over and over again. Just watch us.
Its just our governmnet trying to show how much it "gets it". Here in reality we all know it does, never has, never will. But there are so few of us here in reality.;)
Its funny how we use our own psychologists against us. 9 out of 10 psychologists agree, watching a lot of TV and shopping is the best way to spend a holiday season.
Can you imagine the economic impact it would have on a country like Iraq if we offerred, instead of bombing them to force regime change, simply free transportation to any citizen that wants to leave their country and find a new life of opportunity with a social system designed by the people for the people.
Instead of give them freedom we forced a democracy on them that we claim will provide "freedom", but they are not free to change it, except under the guidance of our administration and possibly the UN. It strikes my funny bone how we throw around the word "freedom" like its an object that can be given to people. Freedom comes from a lack of law and law enforcement, not democracy or capitalism. A country with 10 laws, assuming they are the right 10 laws, would be more free than a country like ours with thousands.
If we were truely a country based on freedom we would have no problems taking care of all the people that would want to live here, because things like the peace movement would not have been derailed in the name of business and profits. It seems the American version of "freedom" involves addiction to mild uppers, commercialism and brainwashing throughout our education system to promote capitalism, democracy and a very conservative perspective on personal liberty.
Hows about we legalize Cannabis, maybe then we can open a discussion about freedom and what it really means.
I think they might have some good points, though. Education is basicly just spreading information from the people that know it to the people that need to learn it. Part of that might even be teaching those ignorant masses that they are in fact ignorant and need education.
But you can't possibly educate people when you're more concerned about making a profit or even paying bills. When money stands in the way of education, education suffers. Money always stands in the way of education because there's nothing profitable about educating people.
The profit happens later when those educated people begin creating new things, innovating and using their skills to help society and make a profit.
So wouldn't it be more profitable for society to just forget about the costs involved and educate EVERYONE? Knowing that they will apply that knowledge at some later date in the future..
And if that might be more profitable, would it also be profitable to find a way to manage money and resources without forcing each individual to spend time counting coins, paying taxes, worrying about money, etc. But our concept of a moneyless society is just to exchange money for some other form of credit.
We're not smart enough to build a society that just doesn't use money, focusses on education and the environment these people are forced to live in, and does what is best for the people. Because we're too concerned about what will happen to all the money. We don't even recognise that each and every person is worth more than all the money in the world.
What makes a human so valuable? Two things: Consciousness and their ability to create!
We form something we call a "civilization" and then we relax and be "civilized" until our empire collapses. Then we do it all over again.
We can't seem to get it right. And so Kennedy's vision died with him. And we've already accepted the fact that his death had nothing to do with our society's desire to live ignorantly blissful of the universe surrounding our planet.
Since ignorance is bliss what are we still talking about Space for? Don't we have a TV show to watch or some shopping to do? Its getting close to Christmas again.
What we are losing is nothing important. Just that open-minded atheist scientist, forever curious about the truth. Its much more comforting for us to join a group and believe what they believe so we can feel comfortable, like we belong.
Well, its a chicken at the egg thing, atm. Vendors will start supporting Linux when it gains enough market share.
But the way I look at it is if you choose not to go with Linux at this time it is your choice. But remember that you made that choice, when Linux is mainstream and well supported. The money one can save with Linux is obvious to most technical and creative people who have read its license. It just takes a little time and creativity to make it work for you. But by not using it you could be costing your company a lot more money in the long run. Outsourcing almost always costs more because the vendors are here to make a profit and the solution is almost never custom fit to your operations. Its like that whole 'work smarter not harder' principle. It takes a lot of hard thought and work to automate your business, but once it is automated you can sit back and watch it generate revenue.
But the choice is yours.
I judge people based on their decisions and actions at times like these. Here's hoping you make the right ones.
Exactly. But why do we need more science? We don't know what to do with the technology we've got here today.
There are social problems that need to be addressed before we go merrily progressing into the future, IMO. To carelessly advance in technology without doing it for the right reasons could be dangerous.
Look at how we handled nuclear technology. The Plowshares project is very interesting, don't you think?
I bought a '95 mustang V8. Gets like 13 mpg the way I drive it. Its fun to burn out in parking lots and waste extra gas revving the engine at stop lights. Looks cool too.
Next thing I want to do is pull off some of the catalytic converters that mess up the air flow and put on some larger fuel injectors so I burn more gas faster than ever before.
We have at least 50 years of oil left on this planet and I intend to use it!
That's funny. Criticize Americans, get labeled a troll.
Ever think that maybe us Americans deserve a little criticism? Maybe it would make us use our heads from time to time instead of spending our days patting ourselves on the back for being #1.
So I'll say it again: Why waste money exploring space? Its not profitable.
Can you reply this time instead of use your authoritative power to moderate?
I'd like to see them build a real space station at the LaGrange point. Something with a factory large enough to construct a space ship. A ship designed to travel through space and explore shit. I know we got the technology available to do this today. We're just lazy.
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But please remember that matching code is not necessarily infringement. The code could have been copied from the Linux kernel into UNIX. No one knows until it has been proven one way or the other.
Well, when you put it that way... no. :)
I don't have time to read Ayn Rand.
Socialism and communism determine 'require' and 'deserve' and look how well those types of societies are doing?
Is that really a question? Hows about you read the reply I posted to the other reply to my original post.
The predator is the intelligent person who understands what it means to be an entrepreneur. They create marketing departments for the sole purpose of selling useless widgets for a profit. These marketing departments hire psychologists.
The prey on the ignorant masses that purchase things they see advertised by "cool" people on TV. They are being manipulated every day by commercialism and our use of psychologists.
interesting reference
Here's a quote:
"We are writing today about the latter prohibition. We are concerned that members of the APA are ignoring it, for monetary gain. They are not using their knowledge to mitigate the causes of human suffering. They are using it instead to promote and assist the commercial exploitation and manipulation of children. As individuals, that is their right, of course. But as a profession dedicated to human welfare, psychologists have a responsibility to the public. The APA should not condone such behavior among its members, nor should psychologists look the other way."
Looks to me like they are preying on children. If children, like the elderly, in our society are not one form of prey I don't know what is. This is truely sick, btw. This is "our way of life".
What will it take before we get more money...
Everyone keeps complaining, "We need more money", "more money", "more money", "more money". What will it take for people to realize we can't have the resources, environment and honesty everyone needs until we do away with money and the waste, excuses and corruption that are associated with it?
Answer: A new type of media.
I think we can all agree that asteroids pose a potential threat to our way of life, yet we're unwilling to admit it in a social context. I think we can all agree that nuclear weapons pose a potential threat to our way of life, yet we continue using them with each new war we choose to fight. I think we can all agree to continue to disagree, forever, until nothing gets solved.
I'd work for free for the right group of people. Y'know, those freedom loving people we used to read about in our history classes. Not democrates or republicans or capitalists, but real humanitarians.
But why do we want to divert a disaster? Why save humanity? I have faith that it can save itself, or fade into extinction. Both are the natural way of life. What part of humanity is worth saving? Why save humanity? Because we're conscious! Because we can learn what it means to love! Because is it possible for the universe to have meaning without us?!?!
I think we have some social problems to tackle before we continue bitching about money or the end of the world.
I came to that conclusion 3 years ago. What's taking you guys so long?
CD and DVD media is great as a replacement for the floppy disk. But harddrives have been the only affordable transportable mass-storage media for years. DVD has never been an option for me, but I suspect it will replace CDRW media within a couple years.
$1/GB or less since 2001.
Its not just governments and courts, capitalism is a predatory system. We thrive on it. Land owners, businesses, courts and governments, public utilities, TV and telephone services, and any other organization of authority will always use their power to take more money than they require or deserve.
We're nothing but used car salemen. Which is why I keep saying capitalism is not the best form of society. I don't want to be another predator, and I hate being the prey. Its just frustrating.
BSD is dying. ;)
I prefer this new alternative over here: "you can have this software for free, and this generic hardware costs N price, which is lower than our competitor's X, Y or Z and offers the same functionality. And no more per-seat licenses, ever."
What I find so interesting is how companies like Microsoft and Sun are like immovable objects while Linux seems to be an unstoppable force. Sooner or later one of them has to give in. Who will it be?
Personally I think both Sun and Microsoft have been giving in lately, trying to make their pricing structure more appealing to their customers who are starting to hear about the alternatives.
If they are charging a royalty, then we all have the right to burn CD-Rs of our music and give them to anyone for free. We can't sell them, but the RIAA gave us the right to trade them when they made us pay that royalty. If they don't like it they can always change the law and give us back our royalty payments. Until then its a free for all.
I mean I get more bandwidth over sneaker net than I do across the internet. And I don't have to worry about my government or the **AA intercepting my personal private data.
My family doesn't care if they ever get broadband, and now I'm finally starting to agree with them. Our society just ain't smart enough to know what to do with this technology, so we police it, tax it and commercialize it. Its almost forced monopolization of an extremely valuable service. Bra vo. Watch us turn the internet into the next cable TV network or telephone system. Watch us repeat our historical examples over and over and over again. Just watch us.
Its just our governmnet trying to show how much it "gets it". Here in reality we all know it does, never has, never will. But there are so few of us here in reality. ;)
We'll all be on tranquilizers in no time.
You mean we aren't already?
Its funny how we use our own psychologists against us. 9 out of 10 psychologists agree, watching a lot of TV and shopping is the best way to spend a holiday season.
I agree. The borders should be open.
Can you imagine the economic impact it would have on a country like Iraq if we offerred, instead of bombing them to force regime change, simply free transportation to any citizen that wants to leave their country and find a new life of opportunity with a social system designed by the people for the people.
Instead of give them freedom we forced a democracy on them that we claim will provide "freedom", but they are not free to change it, except under the guidance of our administration and possibly the UN. It strikes my funny bone how we throw around the word "freedom" like its an object that can be given to people. Freedom comes from a lack of law and law enforcement, not democracy or capitalism. A country with 10 laws, assuming they are the right 10 laws, would be more free than a country like ours with thousands.
If we were truely a country based on freedom we would have no problems taking care of all the people that would want to live here, because things like the peace movement would not have been derailed in the name of business and profits. It seems the American version of "freedom" involves addiction to mild uppers, commercialism and brainwashing throughout our education system to promote capitalism, democracy and a very conservative perspective on personal liberty.
Hows about we legalize Cannabis, maybe then we can open a discussion about freedom and what it really means.
I think they might have some good points, though. Education is basicly just spreading information from the people that know it to the people that need to learn it. Part of that might even be teaching those ignorant masses that they are in fact ignorant and need education.
But you can't possibly educate people when you're more concerned about making a profit or even paying bills. When money stands in the way of education, education suffers. Money always stands in the way of education because there's nothing profitable about educating people.
The profit happens later when those educated people begin creating new things, innovating and using their skills to help society and make a profit.
So wouldn't it be more profitable for society to just forget about the costs involved and educate EVERYONE? Knowing that they will apply that knowledge at some later date in the future..
And if that might be more profitable, would it also be profitable to find a way to manage money and resources without forcing each individual to spend time counting coins, paying taxes, worrying about money, etc. But our concept of a moneyless society is just to exchange money for some other form of credit.
We're not smart enough to build a society that just doesn't use money, focusses on education and the environment these people are forced to live in, and does what is best for the people. Because we're too concerned about what will happen to all the money. We don't even recognise that each and every person is worth more than all the money in the world.
What makes a human so valuable? Two things: Consciousness and their ability to create!
No.
We form something we call a "civilization" and then we relax and be "civilized" until our empire collapses. Then we do it all over again.
We can't seem to get it right. And so Kennedy's vision died with him. And we've already accepted the fact that his death had nothing to do with our society's desire to live ignorantly blissful of the universe surrounding our planet.
Since ignorance is bliss what are we still talking about Space for? Don't we have a TV show to watch or some shopping to do? Its getting close to Christmas again.
What we are losing is nothing important. Just that open-minded atheist scientist, forever curious about the truth. Its much more comforting for us to join a group and believe what they believe so we can feel comfortable, like we belong.
in a capitalist society.
People are worth more than money!
Seems some people at NASA are still having trouble with that one.
Well, its a chicken at the egg thing, atm. Vendors will start supporting Linux when it gains enough market share.
But the way I look at it is if you choose not to go with Linux at this time it is your choice. But remember that you made that choice, when Linux is mainstream and well supported. The money one can save with Linux is obvious to most technical and creative people who have read its license. It just takes a little time and creativity to make it work for you. But by not using it you could be costing your company a lot more money in the long run. Outsourcing almost always costs more because the vendors are here to make a profit and the solution is almost never custom fit to your operations. Its like that whole 'work smarter not harder' principle. It takes a lot of hard thought and work to automate your business, but once it is automated you can sit back and watch it generate revenue.
But the choice is yours.
I judge people based on their decisions and actions at times like these. Here's hoping you make the right ones.
Yep.
Some people call them "folders" too.
But what if we're not smart enough? What if it costs too much, so we cut corners and more people die?
I agree with you, but I think our culture, like NASAs, must change first.
Exactly. But why do we need more science? We don't know what to do with the technology we've got here today.
There are social problems that need to be addressed before we go merrily progressing into the future, IMO. To carelessly advance in technology without doing it for the right reasons could be dangerous.
Look at how we handled nuclear technology. The Plowshares project is very interesting, don't you think?
I agree. Be a man!
I bought a '95 mustang V8. Gets like 13 mpg the way I drive it. Its fun to burn out in parking lots and waste extra gas revving the engine at stop lights. Looks cool too.
Next thing I want to do is pull off some of the catalytic converters that mess up the air flow and put on some larger fuel injectors so I burn more gas faster than ever before.
We have at least 50 years of oil left on this planet and I intend to use it!
That's funny. Criticize Americans, get labeled a troll.
Ever think that maybe us Americans deserve a little criticism? Maybe it would make us use our heads from time to time instead of spending our days patting ourselves on the back for being #1.
So I'll say it again: Why waste money exploring space? Its not profitable.
Can you reply this time instead of use your authoritative power to moderate?
I'd like to see them build a real space station at the LaGrange point. Something with a factory large enough to construct a space ship. A ship designed to travel through space and explore shit. I know we got the technology available to do this today. We're just lazy.
Awesome, China kicks ass! :)
Also Russia's plan to put a nuclear reactor on Mars might have something to do with it.
At least someone is giving us a kick in our complacency. Too bad it wasn't our fearless "leaders" this time.