No, you were beeing ignorant, becasue clearly you don't know the difference between spyware and a trojan/virus.
Ok, smartypants, here's what I said:
First it's the anti-virus industry totally ignoring Mac and Unix users. Now Google and Yahoo leave Mac and Unix users to swing in the wind. Does anyone have anti-spyware for something other than Windows?
If anything is clear, it's that I was referring to one instance of the industry allegedly "ignoring" non-Windows users, and that this was a second alleged instance - a different kind of thing.
I didn't explicitly say "spyware and viruses are different", because to the extent it even matters it's understood. It hardly matters, because A) the removal tools are beginning to encompass all categories and B) the lines are blurring as the evil techniques are shared.
"Protect yourself from spyware with Anti-Spy for Windows"
First it's the anti-virus industry totally ignoring Mac and Unix users. Now Google and Yahoo leave
Mac and Unix users to swing in the wind. Does anyone have anti-spyware for something other than Windows?
I don't want to have to switch to Windows just to get this support.
[suitwank]
It's tough enough getting rich without people hiding. Don't those cookie-deleters know that it's all about relationships? What do they think, we'll sell information about them to a spammer? We use only legitimate email marketers.
[/suitwank]
I don't want a relationship with an online vendor. I don't want a relationship with a car salesman. I just want to be shown a product and given a price. I'll decide if I want it.
I don't mind good service, but that's not what the suitwankers want to do with my information. They uniformly want to sell me something I don't want. Remember what I bought so you can fix it if it breaks or I want an upgrade, but don't try to sell me something just because I bought something else.
We have a GE thermoelectric water cooler. It works great. The water's not as cold as a regular refrigerator puts out, but the 5-gallon bottles are hard to fit in the fridge.
I just hope Kevin McBride isn't handling the patent. He's got an interest in IP law, you know. His brother Darl would end up suing GE.
You can't know at compile time where the branch will go, since that depends on run-time values for the pointers. So you're talking about hardware branch prediction, which is independent of language.
Or what am I missing? Do you just mean that the C++ compiler always spits out more optimizable (branch predictable) pointer code?
Once you start watching, you realize that you get attacked so much that you quickly scale back the sensitivity. In the end, the monitor becomes a forensics tool, or a way of verifying that it's not an attack that's causing whatever problem you're having.
Acquire skill with Nmap (http://insecure.org./ Learn how to know what the bad guys know about you. Google yourself and your network, to see what dangerous information is out there about you and your network. Try to render that information obsolete.
even is written in C, a language designed to implement UNIX instead of something even a little better like C++ which supports virtual methods instead of hand implementing function pointers everywhere.
C++ is inappropriate for OS work. Too much happens behind your back, and as you may have noticed, it's s l o w.
you can take this opportunity to really take over.
Become the guru. Do a little social engineering on the sysadmin (i.e., suck up like a groupie). Tell them you want to be like them when you get out of school - but how will you learn?
they were always coming up with 5-year-plans to reach this goal or that level of something or other.
I live in Illinois, in the central US. I live in one of the poorest counties in the state. In my county, about 400 sq mi, there are less than 10,000 people. Most of them live in trailers and broken-down farm houses, just making ends meet, or selling the place because they can't.
We've got broadband.
Why do bureaucrats think they have to manage the economy? Here's a suggestion: Quit your job so I can quit paying your salary.
Maybe then I'll be able to start up a WiFi ISP in the next county over, where they're really hard up.
I'm not so sure a disclaimer like that's a good idea, without fully explaining Fair Use. One goal of CC is to be understandable as a license.
Besides, as you say, the CC gives the user more rights to the material than does Fair Use. Does Dvorak put a Fair Use disclaimer in his lame "Copyright 2005" line?
CC doesn't conflict with Fair Use. Dvorak is like that kid in school who always thought he was right, even when he couldn't pronounce the big words.
That's a tough lesson you learn as an adult at some point: sometimes, your opinion is just wrong.
When I write something that I want people to see, I put it on the web somewhere under a Creative Commons license.
I don't do that only out of namby-pamby group-hug altruism. I do it also to maximize exposure, in the (probably fruitless) hope that someone will see my work and pay me to help them with something. It feels good when someone links back, or gives kudos, too. And when a piece gets picked up, I have a sense of accomplishment even if I don't have a sense of cash in my pocket for it. Would I otherwize, without the CC?
It's a new economy in a new medium, and the ways of working from the old media need to be adjusted. The CC is one such adjustment.
The days of the paid columnist are probably numbered. In our future, I am afraid, are the increasingly frantic shots from Senior Tour players trying to prove they still belong in the game.
(Sorry for the golf reference - I'm not a golfer, but it seemed to fit)
People like my mum didn't like going on the web any more as they thought bad things happened there. Firefox took a lot of that pain away -- you could go on web without being afraid of pop-ups trying to trick you into downloading spyware.
People like me like it, too. I'm a Unix and Windows system admin. I should be able to use the web without getting viruses and spyware, right? Now, I can.
I used to use Netscape, or Mozilla, or whatever was there. Sometimes things would be broken, and I'd have to use IE.
One day I noticed more than usual quirky behavior from my PC running Winders2000 Server. I downloaded, installed, and ran a spyware removal program. What a surprise, they had me. The installer was still in the IE cache.
Now, the only thing I use IE for is WindowsUpdate.
I wash afterwards.
MS is a public company, its purpose is to make the shareholders happy.
Shareholders fall into two broad categories: those who like the company and those who like the stock. If you run your company for the former, rather than the latter, you'll do fine both ethically (by almost any ethical definition of "fine"). If you run your company for the stock price, you're doomed to fail.
Gates' problem is that he measures success by the stock value of MSFT. I guess that's all he could do, and I don't know him so I don't mean to judge him, but that's where his problem is.
Ask if your customers are happy, not if your shareholders are.
Ask how people want their online media, and see if you can make a dime or two selling them software to help. Don't ask how you can keep someone else from getting people their media.
I have to hand it to you, you put your finger right on it. Disney has put way too much effort into making it harder to use their theme park.
It's just like copy protection and other license-enforcement schemes: they maximize the profit/user ratio by decreasing the denominator instead of by increasing the numerator.
Probably they will show a higher profit/user ratio, and the bean counters will declare a success. But they won't see the deadly effect on their image of treating their customers as criminals, nor will they ever see the profit they could have made by turning their energies to something park visitors would actually enjoy.
Now that I have Firefox / AdBlock, I hardly see any ads at all.
Ok, smartypants, here's what I said:
If anything is clear, it's that I was referring to one instance of the industry allegedly "ignoring" non-Windows users, and that this was a second alleged instance - a different kind of thing.
I didn't explicitly say "spyware and viruses are different", because to the extent it even matters it's understood. It hardly matters, because A) the removal tools are beginning to encompass all categories and B) the lines are blurring as the evil techniques are shared.
Now, go away.
I was trying to be funny.
"Protect yourself from spyware with Anti-Spy for Windows"
First it's the anti-virus industry totally ignoring Mac and Unix users. Now Google and Yahoo leave Mac and Unix users to swing in the wind. Does anyone have anti-spyware for something other than Windows?
I don't want to have to switch to Windows just to get this support.
[suitwank]
I don't want a relationship with an online vendor. I don't want a relationship with a car salesman. I just want to be shown a product and given a price. I'll decide if I want it.It's tough enough getting rich without people hiding. Don't those cookie-deleters know that it's all about relationships? What do they think, we'll sell information about them to a spammer? We use only legitimate email marketers.
[/suitwank]
I don't mind good service, but that's not what the suitwankers want to do with my information. They uniformly want to sell me something I don't want. Remember what I bought so you can fix it if it breaks or I want an upgrade, but don't try to sell me something just because I bought something else.
We have a GE thermoelectric water cooler. It works great. The water's not as cold as a regular refrigerator puts out, but the 5-gallon bottles are hard to fit in the fridge.
I just hope Kevin McBride isn't handling the patent. He's got an interest in IP law, you know. His brother Darl would end up suing GE.
Obviously, since the savings from increasing DST will be so great, why not just extend it to the whole year? Maximize the savings!
Makes sense to me.
Branch prediction? On function pointers?
You can't know at compile time where the branch will go, since that depends on run-time values for the pointers. So you're talking about hardware branch prediction, which is independent of language.
Or what am I missing? Do you just mean that the C++ compiler always spits out more optimizable (branch predictable) pointer code?
You need to develop a strategy that includes network monitoring, penetration testing, and watching the security lists or sites.
For a network monitor, Nagios (http://www.nagios.org/ is popular, but I like Mon (http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/admin/mon), because of its simplicity.
Once you start watching, you realize that you get attacked so much that you quickly scale back the sensitivity. In the end, the monitor becomes a forensics tool, or a way of verifying that it's not an attack that's causing whatever problem you're having.
Acquire skill with Nmap (http://insecure.org./ Learn how to know what the bad guys know about you. Google yourself and your network, to see what dangerous information is out there about you and your network. Try to render that information obsolete.
Read up at http://sans.org/ or maybe a CERT advisory list.
You can spend minimal time on any of this or all of your waking hours.
But it's great getting paged that a server is offline before anyone else (like the client) knows about it.
>>C++ slow
>C slow
teehee. Yeah,
Real Programmers write with:
cat | od >kernel.bin
Or they write in binary, on the bare metal. Octal and hex are acceptable substitutes, but only if you get carpal tunnel in your thumb and forefinger.
Compilers are for feebs who can't work on the fly.
Comments are for feebs who can't read code.
BASIC is for children and other beginners.
Visual BASIC is for mouth-breathing applications programmers.
C is for BASIC programmers who don't want to really learn anything.
C++ is what they teach Visual BASIC programmers who go to college.
Assembler is acceptable, in a team environment. How else will the boss be able to read the comments?
C++ is inappropriate for OS work. Too much happens behind your back, and as you may have noticed, it's s l o w.
you can take this opportunity to really take over.
Become the guru. Do a little social engineering on the sysadmin (i.e., suck up like a groupie). Tell them you want to be like them when you get out of school - but how will you learn?
You'll rule.
Thanks!
they were always coming up with 5-year-plans to reach this goal or that level of something or other.
I live in Illinois, in the central US. I live in one of the poorest counties in the state. In my county, about 400 sq mi, there are less than 10,000 people. Most of them live in trailers and broken-down farm houses, just making ends meet, or selling the place because they can't.
We've got broadband.
Why do bureaucrats think they have to manage the economy? Here's a suggestion: Quit your job so I can quit paying your salary.
Maybe then I'll be able to start up a WiFi ISP in the next county over, where they're really hard up.
>still allows fair use
I'm not so sure a disclaimer like that's a good idea, without fully explaining Fair Use. One goal of CC is to be understandable as a license.
Besides, as you say, the CC gives the user more rights to the material than does Fair Use. Does Dvorak put a Fair Use disclaimer in his lame "Copyright 2005" line?
CC doesn't conflict with Fair Use. Dvorak is like that kid in school who always thought he was right, even when he couldn't pronounce the big words.
That's a tough lesson you learn as an adult at some point: sometimes, your opinion is just wrong.
When I write something that I want people to see, I put it on the web somewhere under a Creative Commons license.
I don't do that only out of namby-pamby group-hug altruism. I do it also to maximize exposure, in the (probably fruitless) hope that someone will see my work and pay me to help them with something. It feels good when someone links back, or gives kudos, too. And when a piece gets picked up, I have a sense of accomplishment even if I don't have a sense of cash in my pocket for it. Would I otherwize, without the CC?
It's a new economy in a new medium, and the ways of working from the old media need to be adjusted. The CC is one such adjustment.
The days of the paid columnist are probably numbered. In our future, I am afraid, are the increasingly frantic shots from Senior Tour players trying to prove they still belong in the game.
(Sorry for the golf reference - I'm not a golfer, but it seemed to fit)
People like me like it, too. I'm a Unix and Windows system admin. I should be able to use the web without getting viruses and spyware, right? Now, I can.
I used to use Netscape, or Mozilla, or whatever was there. Sometimes things would be broken, and I'd have to use IE.
One day I noticed more than usual quirky behavior from my PC running Winders2000 Server. I downloaded, installed, and ran a spyware removal program. What a surprise, they had me. The installer was still in the IE cache.
Now, the only thing I use IE for is WindowsUpdate. I wash afterwards.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
>you'll do fine both ethically
>(by almost any ethical definition of "fine").
Sorry. Meant to say 'both ethically and financially (by almost any ethical definition of "fine"). (new paragraph) If...'.
Shareholders fall into two broad categories: those who like the company and those who like the stock. If you run your company for the former, rather than the latter, you'll do fine both ethically (by almost any ethical definition of "fine"). If you run your company for the stock price, you're doomed to fail.
Why not just come out and say it, Bill?
"No one should make money but me!"
Gates' problem is that he measures success by the stock value of MSFT. I guess that's all he could do, and I don't know him so I don't mean to judge him, but that's where his problem is.
Ask if your customers are happy, not if your shareholders are.
Ask how people want their online media, and see if you can make a dime or two selling them software to help. Don't ask how you can keep someone else from getting people their media.
He seems to get it backwards, every time.
That's not even a first line of defense. OK, so you get past people scanning your whole /16 for open port 3389. But
will reveal that port running RDC on your.box.net the same as if it were on the default 3389.Keep in mind that unusual results draw more attention. You want to be invisible, or at least, to look like as many others as possible.
I have to hand it to you, you put your finger right on it. Disney has put way too much effort into making it harder to use their theme park.
It's just like copy protection and other license-enforcement schemes: they maximize the profit/user ratio by decreasing the denominator instead of by increasing the numerator.
Probably they will show a higher profit/user ratio, and the bean counters will declare a success. But they won't see the deadly effect on their image of treating their customers as criminals, nor will they ever see the profit they could have made by turning their energies to something park visitors would actually enjoy.
Oh, please. He said it while trying to get elected President in 1999. Just read the transcript.
OK, that was just plane mean.