Shell scripts have horrible error handling, and quickly become a maintenance nightmare. These days, e.g. Python is installed everywhere you need to go.
That's exactly what the Perl people said years ago, and we all know how well that worked out (for low maintenance sysadmin-type tasks). I know the sinking feeling I get every time I find a crontab entry pointing to a Perl script.
It's only a 'maintenance nightmare' if you write it poorly. Once it is working and the input isn't altered beyond your vision of possibilities when you wrote it, you should never have to touch those scripts again. Regardless of which you chose.
Being a minimalist, shell is where it's at. Though Perl is a close second with it's strong parsing capabilities.
I always wondered if someone has the same (read identical) script on a *NIX system and a Windows system. Then the question would be why?
Specifically, layoffs are being used as a way of culling the bottom 10 or 20% of performers in order to improve the overall performance of the company.
That'll be interesting, then. By and large, every performance measuring I've ever seen has been flawed, and unless it was for very simple jobs, greatly so.
Especially in a development environment, performance is hard to measure. There are anecdotes en masse about people who contributed very little measurable output to a project, but when they were fired the whole thing went down the drain.
Cutting "low performers" has, in my experience, always been a sign of a company in financial trouble. One that desperately needs to save money in order to please stockholders, and employees simply are one of those "cutting costs opportunities" that stockholders love.
I was actually confused by that when I first saw the headline. I didn't even know that the government could patent something. It's just so completely broken and silly that I never even considered it.
There are many reasons why this is possible. First of all, the Government agencies all can patent processes/things and they have to follow the same rules as anyone else. One reason you want to provide this capability is to prevent Company A from developing said technology only to turn around and sell it to Country B.
Could the (U.S.) legal department weigh in on this...
Where did this whole idea of "you have rights, except in civil cases" come from? Am I missing the part that says "These rights are only valid when defending against police or government accusation, dealing with over $5000 penalty or personal imprisonment."
While it may not be much to some people, my traffic fine is enough of a slice of my personal property to warrant playing by the rules writ in big letters.
Just ask O.J. One of the more publicized cases of the court system at work. Criminally, he was found not guilty. Yet in civil court he was held to different standards and found guilty. According to the criminal court he was not guilty, so how could another court find him guilty? And double jeopardy doesn't apply either.
Regardless of what folks think of the case, the individuals who decided the case and the US system of law found him not guilty. Criminally speaking that is, civilly was another matter.
And I apologize in advance for bringing OJ into the thread, but for most of the US, it was their first taste of the US court system at work.
This is what the majority of the criminal process is about. Look that the illegal drug industry. I think locking someone up for years on end because they do illegal drugs is a waste of time and tax payer money. As long as you don't commit a violent crime or theft of some kind, I don't see a problem with another form of punishment then that of expensive incarceration. But ever since prisons became a for profit endeavors (private industry runs them, minus federal prisons I believe) they have to keep the beds filled.
Consider someone you know who has social problems variously including anger management issues, alcoholism, drug abuse and/or severe financial mismanagement: in short, someone who repeatedly makes very poor life-choices.
Obama will replace him in a few weeks.
Personally, I find in amusing how the newly elected officials are loved at the start and folks can't wait for them to leave when their time is up.
Fuckin A. "File-sharing" is not illegal. Copyrighted material sharing is, without the copyrighted folks granting permission. You would figure that they would want to ensure that "public awareness" would also include _clear_ statements to define their issue.
How the Government institutions tell folks that they should be more fiscally responsible while they run up more and more debt. I guess if I had a tax base, I wouldn't be concerned with how much I spent every year either.
Well, you are not going to get rich with that attitude. From what I've seen if you are not back-stabbing, vindictive, willing to fire people to keep the stock prices high, pay yourself more then you are worth, consider people leaches and just a number, and use tax dollars as a personal corporate safety net, then you are not a true corporate leader.
Why? The point is there, the delivery isn't well formed though. Lending money to folks regardless of race, creed, or gender, who don't have the means to pay it back is going to lose every time.
While you are simplifying the financial market, why not go to a flat tax of 10%. Cut out 90% of the IRS (less needed audits, and automated collection) which would save ten billion tax dollars in itself every year (they have 11 Billion dollar budget in 08). It would simplify the tax code to basically one page (I.e. no personal wealth write offs) and would make sure that if you make 20k a year, you pay 2k in taxes, while if you make 200k a year, you pay 20k. I would think that would go farther to increase personal wealth, stimulate growth, and folks would be less apt to try and find tax shelters for their hard earned cash.
As for the banks making money, that is their choice to put out as many products as the market will support. A bank is just like any other business, they want to make money as well. It was the "Gotta have it hear and now" that got the better of us. 99.5% of the population will never have a house on "Cribs" and have to accept that not everyone can be wealthy. Life is not fair, and it's certainly not easy regardless of what is portrayed on TV.
It costs too much money for the Police to pay quality IT Forensics folks. The police want a simple green, yellow, or red light that the police can follow, that is closed source and has it's AI written by policy makers to decide what is legal or questionable.
"Degrees are important and are worth much more than mere certifications, when accompanied by practical experience."
Sorry, but practical experience is more valuable then a degree. And to be technical, practical experience makes everything better. When I hire folks, I don't care where they went to school. I need folks who can do the job and do it well. Completing a degree signals to me at the very least you finished a long term personal project.
I have to get on my middle managers because they value their degree more then it's really worth. I'm not down-playing a curriculum's value to an individual as it would appear. It's _ONE_ method to learn. There are many a self-taught folks out there that are very intelligent and motivated to do the job. If they have gone "Through the system" and "I have a degree so everyone I hire must as well or they are less of a talent" managers will not last long with me for passing up talent and folks willing to do hard work.
I've seen folks with many a degree demand big dollars because they have their MS and can't use a system without a gui. And then have the nerve to make more demands. They will get work that is for sure, but they do not like the work and it shows.
"Someone with a certification is merely learning to use an existing system or language. But someone with a university degree in computer science is in theory, capable of designing a new language or system. ___And this can't be self taught?____ Linus Torvald didn't learn about designing an operating system by taking certification courses, after all. True that most of the brilliant folks often drop out of college, but that is because they feel that they have already learned what they can from the university system and are confident enough that they don't really need just the paper proof of the degree. But that just proves that the way you are taught in a university is actually important."
You pretty much negate the your argument for a degree. And I've seen plenty of folks who have no degree or cert that would "Code your monkey" into a corner.
And let's not forget the most important thing. Universities have become cash cows. Period. If your check clears, you get the degree. Now if you learn something is completely different. So you have the paper, but where is the knowledge? See the difference?
"I work for these people, and frankly I don't trust them."
So leave. Obviously, you have no issue taking home a paycheck from the folks you don't trust. Which, by the way is supporting their cause.
"budget into the black"
Sorry, but if it makes it into the black, I want my money back. Zero should be the target, not profit.
Look, it is very necessary to put information to a litmus test. The press doesn't really do it since they inject so much personal agenda it becomes hard to find the "real" facts. However, when information comes out, yelling "false" really isn't a viable method either. I think a little more information gathering would be needed. And I don't remember reading anything about the Govt asking for more money concerning this event.
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That's exactly what the Perl people said years ago, and we all know how well that worked out (for low maintenance sysadmin-type tasks). I know the sinking feeling I get every time I find a crontab entry pointing to a Perl script.
It's only a 'maintenance nightmare' if you write it poorly. Once it is working and the input isn't altered beyond your vision of possibilities when you wrote it, you should never have to touch those scripts again. Regardless of which you chose.
Being a minimalist, shell is where it's at. Though Perl is a close second with it's strong parsing capabilities.
I always wondered if someone has the same (read identical) script on a *NIX system and a Windows system. Then the question would be why?
Let's play Situation Replacement, shall we?
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Location: Germany
When: December 1945
>> Can we get all the ugly from the Holocaust in the open so we can start to earn our respect back?
Help the victims. Heal them physically and mentally. Pay them. Acknowledge wrongdoing. Admit guilt. State the facts. Do this all extremely publicly.
But burn those goddamn pictures. All they will do is piss people off, no matter how hard you try to make things right.
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Sometimes the ugly needs to be seen.
Wow. You are actually comparing the Holocaust to these events?
"Early government estimates are showing 212,000 jobs could be created by this plan."
Or one damn good script.
Specifically, layoffs are being used as a way of culling the bottom 10 or 20% of performers in order to improve the overall performance of the company.
That'll be interesting, then. By and large, every performance measuring I've ever seen has been flawed, and unless it was for very simple jobs, greatly so.
Especially in a development environment, performance is hard to measure. There are anecdotes en masse about people who contributed very little measurable output to a project, but when they were fired the whole thing went down the drain.
Cutting "low performers" has, in my experience, always been a sign of a company in financial trouble. One that desperately needs to save money in order to please stockholders, and employees simply are one of those "cutting costs opportunities" that stockholders love.
So Microsoft hired the "Bobs" to weed folks out?
How do I *get* this hormone imbalance?
Build a house under high tension power lines.
You mean like Warren Buffet?
I was actually confused by that when I first saw the headline. I didn't even know that the government could patent something. It's just so completely broken and silly that I never even considered it.
There are many reasons why this is possible. First of all, the Government agencies all can patent processes/things and they have to follow the same rules as anyone else. One reason you want to provide this capability is to prevent Company A from developing said technology only to turn around and sell it to Country B.
Could the (U.S.) legal department weigh in on this...
Where did this whole idea of "you have rights, except in civil cases" come from? Am I missing the part that says "These rights are only valid when defending against police or government accusation, dealing with over $5000 penalty or personal imprisonment."
While it may not be much to some people, my traffic fine is enough of a slice of my personal property to warrant playing by the rules writ in big letters.
Just ask O.J. One of the more publicized cases of the court system at work. Criminally, he was found not guilty. Yet in civil court he was held to different standards and found guilty. According to the criminal court he was not guilty, so how could another court find him guilty? And double jeopardy doesn't apply either.
Regardless of what folks think of the case, the individuals who decided the case and the US system of law found him not guilty. Criminally speaking that is, civilly was another matter.
And I apologize in advance for bringing OJ into the thread, but for most of the US, it was their first taste of the US court system at work.
"infractions for profit"
This is what the majority of the criminal process is about. Look that the illegal drug industry. I think locking someone up for years on end because they do illegal drugs is a waste of time and tax payer money. As long as you don't commit a violent crime or theft of some kind, I don't see a problem with another form of punishment then that of expensive incarceration. But ever since prisons became a for profit endeavors (private industry runs them, minus federal prisons I believe) they have to keep the beds filled.
Obama will replace him in a few weeks.
Personally, I find in amusing how the newly elected officials are loved at the start and folks can't wait for them to leave when their time is up.
Fuckin A. "File-sharing" is not illegal. Copyrighted material sharing is, without the copyrighted folks granting permission. You would figure that they would want to ensure that "public awareness" would also include _clear_ statements to define their issue.
How the Government institutions tell folks that they should be more fiscally responsible while they run up more and more debt. I guess if I had a tax base, I wouldn't be concerned with how much I spent every year either.
It's another form of control.
"Tech bubble - Real Estate bubble ... next time I even see/hear the word bubble in the markets I'm cashing out for a while"
What if it's a "currency bubble?"
"I prefer honesty and doing things right."
Well, you are not going to get rich with that attitude. From what I've seen if you are not back-stabbing, vindictive, willing to fire people to keep the stock prices high, pay yourself more then you are worth, consider people leaches and just a number, and use tax dollars as a personal corporate safety net, then you are not a true corporate leader.
"This whole post is total bullshit."
Why? The point is there, the delivery isn't well formed though. Lending money to folks regardless of race, creed, or gender, who don't have the means to pay it back is going to lose every time.
While you are simplifying the financial market, why not go to a flat tax of 10%. Cut out 90% of the IRS (less needed audits, and automated collection) which would save ten billion tax dollars in itself every year (they have 11 Billion dollar budget in 08). It would simplify the tax code to basically one page (I.e. no personal wealth write offs) and would make sure that if you make 20k a year, you pay 2k in taxes, while if you make 200k a year, you pay 20k. I would think that would go farther to increase personal wealth, stimulate growth, and folks would be less apt to try and find tax shelters for their hard earned cash.
As for the banks making money, that is their choice to put out as many products as the market will support. A bank is just like any other business, they want to make money as well. It was the "Gotta have it hear and now" that got the better of us. 99.5% of the population will never have a house on "Cribs" and have to accept that not everyone can be wealthy. Life is not fair, and it's certainly not easy regardless of what is portrayed on TV.
It costs too much money for the Police to pay quality IT Forensics folks. The police want a simple green, yellow, or red light that the police can follow, that is closed source and has it's AI written by policy makers to decide what is legal or questionable.
I didn't know opinion was liable.
I didn't see this in the list...
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/12/07/2046233
Which is why lawyers keep getting elected.
"Degrees are important and are worth much more than mere certifications, when accompanied by practical experience."
Sorry, but practical experience is more valuable then a degree. And to be technical, practical experience makes everything better. When I hire folks, I don't care where they went to school. I need folks who can do the job and do it well. Completing a degree signals to me at the very least you finished a long term personal project.
I have to get on my middle managers because they value their degree more then it's really worth. I'm not down-playing a curriculum's value to an individual as it would appear. It's _ONE_ method to learn. There are many a self-taught folks out there that are very intelligent and motivated to do the job. If they have gone "Through the system" and "I have a degree so everyone I hire must as well or they are less of a talent" managers will not last long with me for passing up talent and folks willing to do hard work.
I've seen folks with many a degree demand big dollars because they have their MS and can't use a system without a gui. And then have the nerve to make more demands. They will get work that is for sure, but they do not like the work and it shows.
"Someone with a certification is merely learning to use an existing system or language. But someone with a university degree in computer science is in theory, capable of designing a new language or system. ___And this can't be self taught?____ Linus Torvald didn't learn about designing an operating system by taking certification courses, after all. True that most of the brilliant folks often drop out of college, but that is because they feel that they have already learned what they can from the university system and are confident enough that they don't really need just the paper proof of the degree. But that just proves that the way you are taught in a university is actually important."
You pretty much negate the your argument for a degree. And I've seen plenty of folks who have no degree or cert that would "Code your monkey" into a corner.
And let's not forget the most important thing. Universities have become cash cows. Period. If your check clears, you get the degree. Now if you learn something is completely different. So you have the paper, but where is the knowledge? See the difference?
"I work for these people, and frankly I don't trust them."
So leave. Obviously, you have no issue taking home a paycheck from the folks you don't trust. Which, by the way is supporting their cause.
"budget into the black"
Sorry, but if it makes it into the black, I want my money back. Zero should be the target, not profit.
Look, it is very necessary to put information to a litmus test. The press doesn't really do it since they inject so much personal agenda it becomes hard to find the "real" facts. However, when information comes out, yelling "false" really isn't a viable method either. I think a little more information gathering would be needed. And I don't remember reading anything about the Govt asking for more money concerning this event.
Better wear the insulated cod piece.
There's an infinite number of words.
There are a finite number of words. However, there are quite a lot more sounds that people make claiming to be words.