Good to see so many slashdotters reading the article. The article pretty clearly states the religious groups didn't push this, it was pandering from a failing political group trying to win points. But hey, don't let reality get in the way of your own hypocritical bigotry.
I just love watching people leap and attack on religious groups when it is perceived they are behind something all the while screaming about how those religious groups do the very same thing. It is like these two groups of extremists were meant for each other.
Richard Dawkins isn't a "public intellectual" he is a loud mouthed asshat just like the most extremist religious clowns. Ken Miller has done more to beat back religious extremist crap where it matters and he does it without being an arrogant prick. The pro/anti religious groups cling to the very same biblical sources demanding that they must all be taken in absolute literalist terms to support their arguments for/against it. They both insist that everyone comes to their method of viewing things, with no exception, and mock the other side for being ignorant. The only time it really matters is when either group is trying to enforce their beliefs on the populace through legal strong arming and both sides do this quite frequently.
No, no, no...it is entirely on merit. I have seen people get promoted based on how well they can service the members...
However, in all fairness, I have seen WAY worse promotion systems than the military. And while I believe Mr. "ghetto high school" is an ignorant tool that doesn't know what he is talking about, the Air Force was also the first branch to desegregate and actually has a pretty strong history of breaking down that whole race thing. In fact, the people who were opposed to desegregation were kindly shown the door. They also make a pretty big deal out of promoting the history of the Tuskegee Airmen.
1. Ask Madoff about that. I could only wish that Madoff had jumped to the front of the line to get a life saving treatment so that he could live as much of his 150 year sentence out. So...in these situations, just hope that karma gets them. That failing look to issue 2.
2. Life is unfair. Survival is a game where cheating to win is acceptable. The expectation of an equitable system is nonsense. This is why the whole judgment/afterlife business is so popular regardless of culture/religion. I make no claims to the existence or nonexistence of any judgment/afterlife or what it may be, but given that you really can't do anything about the inherent unfairness in the world the best you can do is try to get a warm fuzzy about thinking the horrible things that await assholes on the other side for being such douches on this side even if it is all just a fantasy.
Uhm...you are obviously missing what it said. The bank fucked up, they erased the charge, and negated the over limit charge. Yes...that is indeed "bank error in your favor" because you just got everything on that purchase for free due to the bank's error, it is not because they decided to not charge you a $15 fee on a $23 quadrillion dollar gas station purchase. Also, I would like to congratulate you on your fantastic understanding of sarcasm and humor in the article.
Fine, I suggest we determine who is most deserving by the age old method of "who has earned the ability to do it". Now...inheriting the wealth isn't exactly earning it, but Jobs didn't inherit the wealth he used. So...no problems here right?
So...hop off your high horse for a minute there partner and let us examine what happened. An individual, faced with death, did everything he could to survive. That isn't exactly much different than anyone else. We could even get further into vague metrics like how many people Jobs employed, how many of them received life saving treatments as a result of their pay/medical benefits, etc, etc.
Now...if you have donated organs and have an objection to him being able to get your organ first...get right back up on that high horse, you earned it. However, no organs, no bitching. You aren't the supreme being, you don't get to decide who lives and who dies.
You are obviously confused, this is an article to hate on Apple. Notice the title, "Apple Update Means Palm Pre Can No Longer Sync With iTunes". Why isn't the title "Apple Update Stops Palm Pre From Masquerading as iPod". It doesn't matter how shitty Palm was by trying to piggyback on Apple's work and success. It doesn't matter that they managed this stupid trick through shoddy device behavior. If iThings were masquerading as Androids for the Google App store people would STILL be screaming about how Apple is evil. Almost every Apple story on Slashdot is a way for Apple haters to mentally masturbate and show their "superiority" to anyone who uses Apple stuff. Ironically enough, that is the very thing the claim Apple customers do... Go figure... The fact that people here scream bloody murder about iTunes stories like this and then say stupid shit like they refuse to use iTunes or no one likes iTunes is amazing. If no one likes it and no one uses it then why is everyone bitching when it does something they don't like? Do you all bitch when Yacht makers add/remove things you don't like from Yachts that you will never own or use? Get over your self righteousness and quit crying if it doesn't affect you. If it does affect you...well you were stupid for buying into Palm's marketing and stupid tricks and buying a Pre. I don't feel sorry for you.
I also think this entire community would be served very well by actually taking some business classes. The babbling about monopoly this and anti-competitive that is pathetic. Monopolies are not illegal. Companies are under NO NONE NADA ZIP ZERO ZILCH obligation to make their products work with third party stuff. Companies are not even prevented from stopping third party stuff from working with their products UNLESS they are using their market dominance to do so. The anti-trust laws are fairly specific about the situations they come into effect and "playing hard ball" is not one of them. In fact, in many cases companies MUST behave this way in order to protect their own assets (patents/trademarks/etc). Further, these companies can be sued by shareholders for not doing everything legally in their power to stop another competitor from eating their lunch. If I held stock in Apple and they allowed Palm to eat iPhone sales by selling the Pre as an iTunes device then I would be furious (Remember, they are a hardware company, not a music store company). This is honestly why it doesn't surprise me that there isn't a stronger F/OSS business environment. The business leaders of today largely don't get it, and the tech folks driving it seem to have a horrid understanding of business. The most successful F/OSS are pretty much limited to younger upstarts that did get the business end, or business giants like IBM and friends that understand the tech.
So...kudos to you for calling Palm out on this shit rather than Apple. Even if you hate Apple products and refuse to buy them, Apple is 100% in the right here.
And here I thought it had to do with the fact that most users don't know the difference between a search engine and a browser. I have literally had to send screenshots to users circling the address bar to show them where to type the address I gave them because they were typing it into the search bar, or worse, directly into google. You make bing the default, make google hard to pick, and you have reality...where there is a sudden surge of bing users and MS is claiming success. Semi computer literate users continue to just use google because they know the difference. I have only ever met a few people that sang the praise of any other search engine and most of them were MS fanboys anyways.
Funny you should mention that...In the last few days I have been in a few conversations about Windows 7. I say I'm not sure when it will be out and without fail someone promptly tells me the release date...and then I laugh.
The whole freedom of speech business is a double edged sword. The real trouble is that the people that really need to be exercising it tend not to, and the loud mouthed ignorant asshats that would do the world a favor by shutting the hell up permanently exercise it quite frequently. The worst part is that the most intelligent people are left beating their heads against the wall listening to the asshats and trapped in the mental anguish of knowing how important freedom of speech is and the horrors that it unleashes.
Almost every major defense of freedom of speech lately has been defending stupid assholes use of it because if you don't defend it you will lose it. The vast majority of people that have used in a professional manner, the way it was intended, to challenge the government have largely been left alone in terms of oppression and persecution.
You sir have given me a brilliant political activism idea. Take the goatse picture, blow it up, put it on a poster, and put the tag line "Pull Your Head Out Of Your Ass!". It would be the perfect sign, and it would work for almost any protest!
You have seen an IPv6 address right? There is hardly enough room to tattoo that on a baby's ass, unless your plan is to tattoo it so small that it will become visible with age.
Don't get your cellphone stolen. Might be a good one. I mean..to think...a criminal that stole your phone might go out and commit further crimes while carrying your cellphone! Or maybe, you were just too close to a crime scene. Cell records indicate your phone loitered around in the park where that dead hooker was found...good luck explaining you were out running that morning and twisted your ankle and had to stop.
The list gets pretty long if you bother to stop and think a moment.
Piles of happy customers, no mass reports of failings (oh, except for the occasional slashdot iHate article that typically turns out to be grossly misreported in the summary). Yet, you say 4 bad iPhones. Typically that means it is a user issue, not a device issue.
Uhm...I think you should go check what "a lot of" really means. The majority of Republicans over the last 8 years were far right leaning nuts that supported Bush up until the end when it was politically damaging to be seen to be in agreement with him. The number of Republicans/Libertarians with any kind of power that did not support most of the nonsense of the last 8 years are FAR from "a lot", they aren't even really a significant minority. The majority of people who were in opposition were Democrats, but even then the majority of them supported the very same garbage and just wanted to quibble about stupid details.
My biggest point here is that right now these "small government, fiscally responsible" Republicans are making a hell of a lot of damned noise about loss of freedom and socialism and apparently have completely and totally forgotten everything they had been up to for the last 8 years.
"I am a " is one of the biggest dangers to our freedom because it only encourages laziness and groupthink on issues you don't research or understand. I am an opinionated bastard that pretty much dislikes everything the Bush and Obama administrations have been up to, but I think their motivations are way different. Power hungry "decider" vs bad ideas with good intentions are pretty different.
Don't you supposed to know you are supposed to do warrantless wiretaps BEFORE government healthcare?
I wonder how many die hard right wing nuts are going to point at this and blather about socialist governments and loss of freedom while completely ignoring that it was their very own Donald Kerr that said that Americans should understand that privacy shouldn't mean keeping information away from businesses and government...
Where does this BS end? I think the more appropriate question is "Where does this BS start?" The simple answer is the lack of personal responsibility. Any plan that takes away responsibility from the individual is always a hit. The whole "make the government solve all our problems" is disgusting, and both political leanings tend to do it quite a bit.
Another slashdot article crying about Apple doing bad things without bothering to think things through.
Sega game - hardcoded rom - no big deal.
C64 emulator - run arbitrary executable code - big fucking deal.
There is a pretty significant difference between the two. Now...is the C64 emulator likely to cause problems...probably not...but it is far easier and more efficient to just slap a ban on any app that can run arbitrary external executable code and call it a day. So your scenarios are as follows. 1 - Allow the app through and set a precedence for people being allowed to violate the dev agreement while opening up everyone's phone to external code execution exploits and get named a bad guy and probably sued by other developers who had their apps rejected for other agreement violation reasons previously. 2 - Continue to block the new app that violates the terms, protect the users from code execution problems, protect themselves from lawsuits, while realizing that most of the "consumer backlash" is from a bunch of whiney shits, most of whom won't even buy the damned iPhone in the first place. 3 - Block other "similar" apps and get sued for removing previously approved apps that did not violate any terms of service.
You encrypt all data, messages, and calls? I suppose that is possible, but exactly how do people at the other end of these communications decrypt them? What is the point of having one of these devices if you can't actually communicate with anyone?
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Good to see so many slashdotters reading the article. The article pretty clearly states the religious groups didn't push this, it was pandering from a failing political group trying to win points. But hey, don't let reality get in the way of your own hypocritical bigotry.
I just love watching people leap and attack on religious groups when it is perceived they are behind something all the while screaming about how those religious groups do the very same thing. It is like these two groups of extremists were meant for each other.
Richard Dawkins isn't a "public intellectual" he is a loud mouthed asshat just like the most extremist religious clowns. Ken Miller has done more to beat back religious extremist crap where it matters and he does it without being an arrogant prick. The pro/anti religious groups cling to the very same biblical sources demanding that they must all be taken in absolute literalist terms to support their arguments for/against it. They both insist that everyone comes to their method of viewing things, with no exception, and mock the other side for being ignorant. The only time it really matters is when either group is trying to enforce their beliefs on the populace through legal strong arming and both sides do this quite frequently.
No, no, no...it is entirely on merit. I have seen people get promoted based on how well they can service the members...
However, in all fairness, I have seen WAY worse promotion systems than the military. And while I believe Mr. "ghetto high school" is an ignorant tool that doesn't know what he is talking about, the Air Force was also the first branch to desegregate and actually has a pretty strong history of breaking down that whole race thing. In fact, the people who were opposed to desegregation were kindly shown the door. They also make a pretty big deal out of promoting the history of the Tuskegee Airmen.
1. Ask Madoff about that. I could only wish that Madoff had jumped to the front of the line to get a life saving treatment so that he could live as much of his 150 year sentence out. So...in these situations, just hope that karma gets them. That failing look to issue 2.
2. Life is unfair. Survival is a game where cheating to win is acceptable. The expectation of an equitable system is nonsense. This is why the whole judgment/afterlife business is so popular regardless of culture/religion. I make no claims to the existence or nonexistence of any judgment/afterlife or what it may be, but given that you really can't do anything about the inherent unfairness in the world the best you can do is try to get a warm fuzzy about thinking the horrible things that await assholes on the other side for being such douches on this side even if it is all just a fantasy.
Uhm...you are obviously missing what it said. The bank fucked up, they erased the charge, and negated the over limit charge. Yes...that is indeed "bank error in your favor" because you just got everything on that purchase for free due to the bank's error, it is not because they decided to not charge you a $15 fee on a $23 quadrillion dollar gas station purchase. Also, I would like to congratulate you on your fantastic understanding of sarcasm and humor in the article.
Fine, I suggest we determine who is most deserving by the age old method of "who has earned the ability to do it". Now...inheriting the wealth isn't exactly earning it, but Jobs didn't inherit the wealth he used. So...no problems here right?
So...hop off your high horse for a minute there partner and let us examine what happened. An individual, faced with death, did everything he could to survive. That isn't exactly much different than anyone else. We could even get further into vague metrics like how many people Jobs employed, how many of them received life saving treatments as a result of their pay/medical benefits, etc, etc.
Now...if you have donated organs and have an objection to him being able to get your organ first...get right back up on that high horse, you earned it. However, no organs, no bitching. You aren't the supreme being, you don't get to decide who lives and who dies.
You are obviously confused, this is an article to hate on Apple. Notice the title, "Apple Update Means Palm Pre Can No Longer Sync With iTunes". Why isn't the title "Apple Update Stops Palm Pre From Masquerading as iPod". It doesn't matter how shitty Palm was by trying to piggyback on Apple's work and success. It doesn't matter that they managed this stupid trick through shoddy device behavior. If iThings were masquerading as Androids for the Google App store people would STILL be screaming about how Apple is evil. Almost every Apple story on Slashdot is a way for Apple haters to mentally masturbate and show their "superiority" to anyone who uses Apple stuff. Ironically enough, that is the very thing the claim Apple customers do... Go figure... The fact that people here scream bloody murder about iTunes stories like this and then say stupid shit like they refuse to use iTunes or no one likes iTunes is amazing. If no one likes it and no one uses it then why is everyone bitching when it does something they don't like? Do you all bitch when Yacht makers add/remove things you don't like from Yachts that you will never own or use? Get over your self righteousness and quit crying if it doesn't affect you. If it does affect you...well you were stupid for buying into Palm's marketing and stupid tricks and buying a Pre. I don't feel sorry for you.
I also think this entire community would be served very well by actually taking some business classes. The babbling about monopoly this and anti-competitive that is pathetic. Monopolies are not illegal. Companies are under NO NONE NADA ZIP ZERO ZILCH obligation to make their products work with third party stuff. Companies are not even prevented from stopping third party stuff from working with their products UNLESS they are using their market dominance to do so. The anti-trust laws are fairly specific about the situations they come into effect and "playing hard ball" is not one of them. In fact, in many cases companies MUST behave this way in order to protect their own assets (patents/trademarks/etc). Further, these companies can be sued by shareholders for not doing everything legally in their power to stop another competitor from eating their lunch. If I held stock in Apple and they allowed Palm to eat iPhone sales by selling the Pre as an iTunes device then I would be furious (Remember, they are a hardware company, not a music store company). This is honestly why it doesn't surprise me that there isn't a stronger F/OSS business environment. The business leaders of today largely don't get it, and the tech folks driving it seem to have a horrid understanding of business. The most successful F/OSS are pretty much limited to younger upstarts that did get the business end, or business giants like IBM and friends that understand the tech.
So...kudos to you for calling Palm out on this shit rather than Apple. Even if you hate Apple products and refuse to buy them, Apple is 100% in the right here.
And here I thought it had to do with the fact that most users don't know the difference between a search engine and a browser. I have literally had to send screenshots to users circling the address bar to show them where to type the address I gave them because they were typing it into the search bar, or worse, directly into google. You make bing the default, make google hard to pick, and you have reality...where there is a sudden surge of bing users and MS is claiming success. Semi computer literate users continue to just use google because they know the difference. I have only ever met a few people that sang the praise of any other search engine and most of them were MS fanboys anyways.
Funny you should mention that...In the last few days I have been in a few conversations about Windows 7. I say I'm not sure when it will be out and without fail someone promptly tells me the release date...and then I laugh.
The whole freedom of speech business is a double edged sword. The real trouble is that the people that really need to be exercising it tend not to, and the loud mouthed ignorant asshats that would do the world a favor by shutting the hell up permanently exercise it quite frequently. The worst part is that the most intelligent people are left beating their heads against the wall listening to the asshats and trapped in the mental anguish of knowing how important freedom of speech is and the horrors that it unleashes.
Almost every major defense of freedom of speech lately has been defending stupid assholes use of it because if you don't defend it you will lose it. The vast majority of people that have used in a professional manner, the way it was intended, to challenge the government have largely been left alone in terms of oppression and persecution.
You sir have given me a brilliant political activism idea. Take the goatse picture, blow it up, put it on a poster, and put the tag line "Pull Your Head Out Of Your Ass!". It would be the perfect sign, and it would work for almost any protest!
How do you know those servers aren't rouge colored as well?
Don't worry. It has been buried.
You have seen an IPv6 address right? There is hardly enough room to tattoo that on a baby's ass, unless your plan is to tattoo it so small that it will become visible with age.
Don't get your cellphone stolen. Might be a good one. I mean..to think...a criminal that stole your phone might go out and commit further crimes while carrying your cellphone! Or maybe, you were just too close to a crime scene. Cell records indicate your phone loitered around in the park where that dead hooker was found...good luck explaining you were out running that morning and twisted your ankle and had to stop.
The list gets pretty long if you bother to stop and think a moment.
Am I the only one that got a good laugh out of the sponsorship logos on that thing?
Piles of happy customers, no mass reports of failings (oh, except for the occasional slashdot iHate article that typically turns out to be grossly misreported in the summary). Yet, you say 4 bad iPhones. Typically that means it is a user issue, not a device issue.
The only times we get a group of people that think they cannot be questioned by outsiders... they are usually wrong.
What does government have to do with this discussion?
That is a matter of perspective.
Uhm...I think you should go check what "a lot of" really means. The majority of Republicans over the last 8 years were far right leaning nuts that supported Bush up until the end when it was politically damaging to be seen to be in agreement with him. The number of Republicans/Libertarians with any kind of power that did not support most of the nonsense of the last 8 years are FAR from "a lot", they aren't even really a significant minority. The majority of people who were in opposition were Democrats, but even then the majority of them supported the very same garbage and just wanted to quibble about stupid details.
My biggest point here is that right now these "small government, fiscally responsible" Republicans are making a hell of a lot of damned noise about loss of freedom and socialism and apparently have completely and totally forgotten everything they had been up to for the last 8 years.
"I am a " is one of the biggest dangers to our freedom because it only encourages laziness and groupthink on issues you don't research or understand. I am an opinionated bastard that pretty much dislikes everything the Bush and Obama administrations have been up to, but I think their motivations are way different. Power hungry "decider" vs bad ideas with good intentions are pretty different.
Don't you supposed to know you are supposed to do warrantless wiretaps BEFORE government healthcare?
I wonder how many die hard right wing nuts are going to point at this and blather about socialist governments and loss of freedom while completely ignoring that it was their very own Donald Kerr that said that Americans should understand that privacy shouldn't mean keeping information away from businesses and government...
Where does this BS end? I think the more appropriate question is "Where does this BS start?" The simple answer is the lack of personal responsibility. Any plan that takes away responsibility from the individual is always a hit. The whole "make the government solve all our problems" is disgusting, and both political leanings tend to do it quite a bit.
You mean instead of waterboarded?
Wait wait wait...You mean I could not pay taxes and then burn Madoff at the stake? How the hell is this a losing proposition?
Another slashdot article crying about Apple doing bad things without bothering to think things through.
Sega game - hardcoded rom - no big deal.
C64 emulator - run arbitrary executable code - big fucking deal.
There is a pretty significant difference between the two. Now...is the C64 emulator likely to cause problems...probably not...but it is far easier and more efficient to just slap a ban on any app that can run arbitrary external executable code and call it a day. So your scenarios are as follows. 1 - Allow the app through and set a precedence for people being allowed to violate the dev agreement while opening up everyone's phone to external code execution exploits and get named a bad guy and probably sued by other developers who had their apps rejected for other agreement violation reasons previously. 2 - Continue to block the new app that violates the terms, protect the users from code execution problems, protect themselves from lawsuits, while realizing that most of the "consumer backlash" is from a bunch of whiney shits, most of whom won't even buy the damned iPhone in the first place. 3 - Block other "similar" apps and get sued for removing previously approved apps that did not violate any terms of service.
You encrypt all data, messages, and calls? I suppose that is possible, but exactly how do people at the other end of these communications decrypt them? What is the point of having one of these devices if you can't actually communicate with anyone?