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iPhone 3GS Finally Hacked
Well, the inevitable hacking of Apple's latest flavor of iPhone has happened. Named "purplera1n," the tool will only allow installation of unauthorized applications instead of a full unlock. "The purplera1n jailbreak will free your iPhone from the limitations imposed on it by AT&T and Apple. After jailbreaking, a user will be able to customize the iPhone with home-screen wallpapers and third-party ringtones. But the biggest advantage of jailbreaking is the support of unapproved apps such as iBlackList (blacklists and whitelists for contacts) and many others."
Wow, that took a long time... is Apple actually putting real security on these things now? Also, what *doesn't* this jailbreak permit?
There's no place I could be, since I've found Serenity...
You can set the wallpaper and use third party ring tones without jailbreaking an iPhone. Apple doesn't restrict them THAT much.
Why would anyone buy a device where someone *else* decides what apps you can run and what you cannot run? You don't own such a device - someone else owns it, and is letting you use it only under conditions they decide.
I'm sure this will get modded down by iPhone fanboys, but I don't mean it as an anti-iPhone thing, more like an anti-any-device-where-the-mfg-regains-control-after-you-buy-it thing.
How? Yes, you can set your wallpaper for the "Slide to unlock" screen, but for the screen where your apps are? No, I know of no way to change that short of jailbreaking.
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
They do make it much harder than necessary to make ringtones. You can't just use any old mp3/aac/etc file, and all the documentation etc makes it seem like you have to buy ringtones.
Pretty annoying.. even my old locked down verizon LG phone had the ability to use bluetooth to transfer mp3s and midis to the phone for usage as ringtones.
I love my iPhone, I wouldn't trade it. But my biggest problem is not the software the phone runs (or doesn't run), its being locked in to using iTunes. I hate it, I want to use something else, but Apple has locked me out. Don't want me to run stuff on the phone because the network (ATT) does not want to support it? I almost understand that. Don't want me to run software you haven't checked to make sure the user experience it up to par? Really? Don't want me to use software of my choice to allow two pieces of hardware I own to interact with each other (PC to iPhone)? That's pretty evil.
Unlocking the damn thing would be the single most useful feature (for use with providers other than ATT).
Why would you run an app that would organize the contacts on your phone, if you're the least bit worried about who the heck they are? Now, the iBlacklist may be just as legit as any app in the App Store, but there's a rather large chance that a version is floating around that actually sends your contacts' names, emails, and phone numbers to an Asiatic hacker or something. Or that the crack itself sends your data to said Asiatic hacker.
I'd say "there's a reason they're unapproved", but the examples of apps rejected by Apple are, to be honest, rather ridiculous sometimes - and they don't inspect the traffic that comes out of their test machines, I'd presume - so I can't say that "there's a reason they're unapproved"... although it does seem like an apt comeback (cue the apt-get comeback joke) to this sort of cracking.
Point? Don't put your data on a machine you can't lock down yourself, I suppose.
Note: I was 13 when I wrote most of this. Take with several grains of salt.
Sticking it to M$ and Apple is all well and good (though Apple is starting to win me over, no pun intended), but i really wish these iPhone dev teams would figure out a method to use the phone with my favorite gnome system, ubuntu. Freeing it from the chains of iTunes would go a long way towards this.
Any word on whether or not this method enables tethering on AT&T networks?
The 3GS unlock & jailbreak has been available since midnight last night.
http://blog.iphone-dev.org/
The usual culprits (the iPhone DevTeam) were waiting until the 3.1 release but it looks like their hand was forced by an independent hacker releasing his jailbreak on Friday.
There was a LOT of stuff you after jailbreaking (background apps, tether, etc) on the 1.x and 2.x OS releases but as Apple adds more features with each consecutive release, I'm finding the need to jailbreak a little less compelling. I still will, b/c I find a terminal + SSH alone to be compelling but once tethering is official, I may just go back to an un-jailbroken state. I still need the unlock, of course.
i have an iphone 3g. i jailbroke as soon as i got it a few months ago because of some stupid restrictions. if apple would remove these restrictions, then i'd have no reason to jailbreak.
#1 - on a standard iphone, you can't change the incoming email alert sound... it is what it is. that means, if you have 10 people in a room and they all have iphones, if anyone gets an email, then everyone will be checking their phones because none of that is customizable.
#2 - on a standard iphone, you are limited to a handful of incoming sms alert sounds.... again, same thing as with email sounds.
the only 2 jailbreak applications that i actually use are the 5 icon dock (with the dockflow theme) and cyntact (an app that allows me to see the pictures of my contacts while they are in the list as opposed to having to open the contact to see the picture).
if apple would alleviate the 2 restrictions about changing sounds, i could live without the 5 icon dock and cyntact. i would have no reason to jailbreak.... and by alleviate, i don't mean to make me buy the sounds off of itunes like they try to make you do with ringtones, which you can get around that by importing m4r files.. 8)
stephen
People buy the iPhone, or the kindle, or some other device that requires everything to be signed, then they either "jailbreak" them or whine about the restrictions.
If you want these restrictions to go away stop buying the devices, and educate everyone who'll listen about why YOU won't touch them, then let them make up their own minds.
You wouldn't buy a car that required you to call the manufacturer and get authorisation every time you wanted to put petrol in it or attach those sickly fluffy dice to the rear vision mirror, would you? And if you did buy it despite such a ridiculous restriction, would you then be complaining to everyone about the restriction?
We don't need 2 slashdot stories per week about this. We're just chasing our own tails here.
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I've been watching this carefully. I bought the original iPhone in the US before they made you sign up for AT&T in the store, I'm English but these didn't sell them out of the US at the time but as the dollar was so low they were extremely cheap (for us). For several months I used it a rather nice iPod until a rather complex jailbreak and unlock came out later that year. From then on my new Nokia E90 was put in a draw and I became a proud iPhone owner. For many more months it remained unavailable outside the US and it became a show piece in meetings. I didn't get the 3G, mainly because it remained un-hackable for some time but last month I was in line outside the London Apple store at 7:30am waiting to get my hands on a new 3GS. For the last few weeks I've been walking around with two iPhones, one old one with my Vodafone card in it and one new one with a pay-as-you-go (£10/month) O2 card in it. Tonight I downloaded the Purplera1n (mac version), connected my 3GS to my Mac, backed it up and clicked on the "Make it Ra1n" button. A couple or re-boots later, some 5 minutes and I was the proud owner of a jailbroken iPhone 3GS. I downloaded Ultrasn0w on Cydia, installed it, rebooted and inserted my UK Vodafone SIM and it's now all working perfectly. I wouldn't recommend doing this unless you really need to, I could have switched to O2 but I think they rip people off with their data prices (as do AT&T), I can get a full 7.2 meg HSDPA and UPA where I live on Vodafone compared to O2's rather slow 3G service. Although most people I know are using a hack to tether their 3GS on O2 I've been doing this on Vodafone for some ten years now starting with my trusty Psion and an RS232 link to my old Nokia phones, sadly that was still faster than today's data service on AT&T though in most of the US. If you're adventurous or want to have a bit more flexibility over your provider then go for the jailbreak and unlock, I can verify that it works on the iPhone 3GS. -John- @jtdavies
I have never bought an apple product. I have gotton the ipod 3g, ipod nano (video), and the ipod touch 2g. After I have received the ipod touch and found out that apple has removed the "use as disk" feature, I knew that this ipod will be the last one I keep. Of course I will stop this boycott once apple starts lifting its proprietary state of mind (yeah right).
Only in apple world, you use a software running on a desktop/laptop and meant for music files to control your mobile phone.
Kudos to you and apple.
Its only an iPhoney!
Assuming you're using windows: Open iTunes. Edit ---> Preferences General Tab Change your Import Settings to AAC Encoder. Right click on the song that will become your future ringtone and go to Options. Make it start and end at the desired times (around 30 seconds between start and end). Now right click on the song (it will appear in iTunes) and show the file in Explorer. Rename it from .m4a to .m4r.
Drag it into iTunes. If you didn't have any ringtones before, a new Ringtones folder will be created (icon looks like a bell).
A hassle, yes, but certainly possible.
You can unlock the baseband and go back to an un-Jailbroken state.
I wouldn't even see it as a hassle, it's no different to what you'd do on a nokia or any other phone, except you need to change the file extension.
AFAIK, that no longer works. You have to use Apple lossless now. My understanding is that they disabled the AAC method because they don't want people making their own ringtones.
Yes, it is a pain, it's unofficial and undocumented, and for all i know will break again in a future patch?
Daniel Ionescu must really be new to iphone tech reporting.
He made a number of errors in understanding of the topic:
1) "will not unlock the iPhone 3GS" and "The tool does not perform a carrier unlock"
False, it allows 3rd party apps including Ultrasn0w to be installed. Ultrasn0w is the unlock program, which works perfectly fine on the 3GS. So indirectly Purplera1n allows unlock by virtue of allowing the unlock software to be ran.
2) "and older models running the 3.0 software update."
False, it only works on 3GS as it is only useful to jailbreak the new protection only available on the 3GS.
3) "home-screen wallpapers and third-party ringtones"
False, neither require Jailbreaking.
4) "iPhone 3.1 software update (which would break any hacks the team has achieved)."
False, 3.1 did not currently break the hack. It was fear that if released, Apple would patch it at the last second in the official 3.1 release.
Given some people's choice of ring tones, I think that's great news.
Hmm. I just did it again to make sure, and it still worked for me with latest iTunes and iPhone 3G S.
Jailbreaking is counterproductive. Apple and AT&T will never learn this way. I opted for N97 instead, sure it has some drawbacks, but I am simply not prepared to give any kind of money to companies as evil as Apple and AT&T.
Hey Mr. Jobs, whatever are you planning to buy with the money you make off of me? Oh wait, you don't get a single dime from me due to your draconian lockdown policies. Your brand of cool I can do without.
Odd, when i got the 3gs one of the first things I tried was to make a ring tone, and it didn't work (the mthod above) until I switched to apple lossless. Perhaps I did something differently, I'll try again tomorrow.
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That's not particularly evil - the itunes-iphone connection does more than just sync files. What is borderline insanity is:
Like all pain, suffering is a signal that something isn't right
Someone has to protect you from yourself.
You are welcome on my lawn.
Why would anyone buy a device where someone *else* decides what apps you can run and what you cannot run?
Because programs vetted by Apple are likely to be accurately described, genuinely useful, and fully compatible with your phone.
I just thought bit different :-) -- see, Darwin has a very big portion of code from a FreeBSD and now Darwin went on iPhone. Obviously, jails are inherited from either FreeBSD or similar, though I am not sure (citation needed). Meaning... is these jails in iPhone has been so screwed up by Apple that can be easily broken, or it is just FreeBSD's code for jails that sucks?
Anyone knows here some details?
You can change the black background where the apps are and the app icons using an app named winterboard. (http://www.saurik.com/id/9)
Download the purplera1n tool and then unlock using ultraSnow using the guide here: http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=4253
The only problem with this hack is that Winterboard still doesn't work. For that you will want to wait until the iPhone Dev Team releases their updates. The Dev team STRONGLY RECOMMENDS that you obtain your IBEC/IBSS files and described on http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/133799347/your-3gs-temporary-solution with a windows tutorial here: http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=4399
This program found here http://difrnt.com/blog/?p=25 will automatically copy the files out of the Windows Temp Directory when you do the restore on your iPhone in order to get the device. You don't need to perform a regular restore, just a DFU restore in order to obtain you iBEC and iBSS files (the guide tells you to restore once, normally, then once in DFU mode).
How did you go from, "one of the first things I tried was to make a ring tone, and it didn't work (the mthod above) until I switched to apple lossless" to "You have to use Apple lossless now. My understanding is that they disabled the AAC method because they don't want people making their own ringtones."?
Not to mention the fact that you can make your own ringtones both from within iTunes and from within GarageBand.
"a user will be able to customize the iPhone with home-screen wallpapers and third-party ringtones. "
Holly shit: custom wallpapers and custom ringtones! Thanks for reminding me again why I got a G1.
What an odd comment. Going from "it's still the best stuff out there" to "don't like em" in the space of three sentences.
I'm not sure why people like to whine about the iPhone. Just go get an Android phone and be done with it.
http://www.rootstrikers.org/
You can easily create a custom ringtone without jailbreaking. You can also put up your own wallpapers on the unlock screen as well. But jailbreaking let's you do a lot more.
Sorry, not to be mean, but I have used both devices and bought a 3GS. I am no Apple fan, but the iPhone has to be the most elegantly designed phone/mobile computer ever created. It blows android out the water, leaves Blackberry and Windows Mobile in the dust.
I have used Windows Mobile devices since 2003 and I must say, the iPhone is simply marvelous (note: I still hate Apple)
You need to jailbreak the phone in order to install it though... which is what this discussion is about.
Well, because you are interested in getting work done, not running porn programs other than Safari.
There. Fixed that for you.
If you mod me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
Your example is flawed. Even if Apple dropped support for all non-Apple devices from iTunes, you could still find some other program to manage your contacts and music. Still no monopoly abuse.
If you mod me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.
AAC worked on my iPhone 3GS with iTunes 8.2 (Mac version) as of about a week ago. As far as I know, Apple Lossless has never worked, but I could be wrong.
Have you ever heard of Symbian Signed? No - then google for it - you will then see that instead of having all applications authorised you need the more interesting applications to be signed, and the very interesting applications signed and approved. Of I have never heard of an application getting improvement for the "AllFiles" privilege.
This is not to say that the N97 was the wrong choice - all phones have a protection mechanism to prevent the not so bright user to install malware.
You are right - but then we have no alternative. All mobile phones have some protection, Symbian Signed, Java Verified, Apples Shop. All a power user can do is choose the phone which suits his/her need and is jail broken easy enough.
I can't speak for the 3GS, but I have done this on numerous 3G and 2G iPhones, for myself and friends alike with no difficulty using the method described above. Just be sure to go back and uncheck the start and end time checkboxes of the original song...
Another (more difficult and lower quality) option can also import the songs into Garageband, set a "loop" by clicking the cycle of arrows on the transport next to the play/rewind/ff butons, and dragging the yellow bar at the top across the portion of the song you want (again, around 30 seconds, though the actual max is 40.) Then click "Share" at the top, and choose "Send Ringtone to iTunes" However, this method:
a) produces a lower-bitrate AAC file that, to my ear, sounds marginally worse (even through the iPhone's speakers)
b) contains all the metadata from your "My Info" tab in the Garageband preferences, so you'll have to go and change it in iTunes from "My Song" by [your username] to whatever it actually is, and thusly involves more steps than just using iTunes
http://apple.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1292445&cid=28590369
No. But I might want software that allows me to download and read from Project Gutenberg. Which was banned because a text only version of the Karma Sutra is available.
They removed Stanza from the App Store? Funny, looks like it is still there to me. It has a direct link to Project Gutenberg under "online catalog". And the kamasutra shows up. I think you're misinformed here. I think one should be able to jailbreak the phone, and mine is, in fact, jailbroken. At the same time, one should be complete and honest about the real reasons for doing so, and not embellish the list with things that are actually quite possible without jailbreaking. Jailbreaking is not everyone's cup of tea, and not all of Apple's actions are evil-- especially ones they have not actually taken.
Or I might just want a vm for the scripting language of my choice for no reason at all. I've installed python on every phone I've had that supported it. To date I've never done anything useful with it, but I might one of these days.
This puts me in mind of the quote, "what's the point of defending your right to have babies when you can't have babies?"
Seriously, will be able to put Commode 64 emulators on it now? Inquiring minds want to know.
Apple sucks....and more than them the people who develop jailbreak. All this talent can be used to build an open source rival to iPhone and kick the hell out of Apple's Ass.... Anyways I am glad they are doing it right now !!!
Oh waa you need to perform a 30 second procedure it takes the intelligence of a small child to accomplish.
What an odd thing to complain about on a nerd oriented site.
It's easier to fight for one's principles than to live up to them.
The only reason i unlock my iPhone: upcoming calendar events in the lock screen and MMS support (1.gen iPhone). It's stupid to have to launch an application to ser todays meetings..
Except for the fact that it's only just become possible to jailbreak a 3GS, which is what this whole discussion is about.
The iPhone is the first cell phone I've owned that I wasn't desperate to get rid of within months of purchase. It's the first one that actually does what it promises to do. Despite being annoyingly locked up by Apple, it's so much less locked up than any other cell phone I've had the misfortune to own that the fact that it's locked up doesn't bother me much. Since most cell phone providers do their best to get the terms of purchase of any phone you buy to just below your threshold of disgust, something that's substantially below the threshold of disgust feels revolutionary.
http://audiko.net/
Nokias can use MP3, I usually use the phone Wifi to download them directly to the memory card, without passing through the PC.
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"be able to customize the iPhone with home-screen wallpapers"?! You're shitting me right? you have to break the OS to change the freaking wallpaper?!
I bought one six months ago, and spend some time in selecting which open source OS to run on it. I finally chose one that was a bit bothersome on the phone side but much better on the GPS (using Openstreetmap).
To my knowledge this machine is still the only open-source GPS available on the market, and I was delighted with it.
For 15 days.
Until by pressing my finger a bit too strongly on the screen I crashed it. Not covered by guarantee, needless to say.
I still don't know if I'll buy the next model, assuming I can check the screen is less fragile. If I do this it'll be not from my french local retailer, given their polar suport...
Herve S.
The 'Convert to AAC...' option (or whatever it was called) has been removed from iTunes 8.2.
Maximum length for a ringtone is 40 seconds, btw.
the community desperately wanted an open phone, and thousands of openmoko neos and freerunners were purchased. the problem was the 1 day battery life. as well as a few problems with the GSM radio. the iphone is the next best device.
The 'Convert to AAC...' option (or whatever it was called) has been removed from iTunes 8.2.
You mean the "Create AAC Version" option..
I still very much have that context-menu option on iTunes 8.2 (23) on Mac and use it on an almost daily basis.
You can change the black background where the apps are and the app icons using an app named winterboard. (http://www.saurik.com/id/9)
Wasn't winterboard the app that makes iPhone glacially slow?
You can certainly put all the ringtones you want on there without jailbreaking. Not sure where this piece of disinformation came from, but 3rd party ringtones are easy to do, there are tons of articles on how to do it.
A device that has to be hacked to get basic features working is "Just Works"? Well yes, I suppose it "Just works" in that it makes phone calls, and anything else is a bonus. I would hope that the standard here on Slashdot for high end expensive phones is something that can do more than just working.
I want a phone that Just Works, Out Of The Box. No messing about with hacks, it's as bad as fiddling around with extra cables... I get "device freedom, works, and does a whole lot more" with my Motorola V980 phone (which is a cheap years old phone, nothing special).
I've nothing against the Iphone - I just find it odd that the features that are trumpted as being its advantages are actually the things that are its major disadvantages (similar with the claims about its UI - when it misses something as fundamental as copy/paste). I mean, I can understanding giving up one feature because it is better in other areas (well, kind of - when those features are available as standard on even cheap phones, it seems odd to give them up when you're spending vastly more, but anyway), but that's not what I see happening here.
Apple is doing extremely well with what they're doing. I don't think they really care about the small single digit percentage of people that want to jail break.
Wow, you come to a site entitled Slashdot: News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters, and insult nerds? How about I go to your football site and bag on you for not mentioning any new tech news? That is by definition TROLLING, Please go away.
You and spartin are really good at following discussions.
Why would anyone buy a device where someone *else* decides what apps you can run and what you cannot run?
Because of a market failure. There is no comparable device that is sold in the same country (in this case, the United States of America) and allows easy execution of unsigned code. For example, three major handheld video gaming devices in the United States are the "Nintendo DS" by Nintendo, the "PlayStation Portable" by Sony, and the "iPod Touch" by Apple. All use some sort of cryptographic lockout to shut out unsigned code, and all have some obscure methods of defeating the lockout that firmware updates eventually fix. There is also the GP2X, an "open" system that is popular among people willing to use mail order, but it doesn't have a significant number of major-label titles, nor is it available to people who can't use mail order (such as children who have saved cash from birthday and lawn mowing).
UNLESS you pay full retail price, you do NOT own the device.
Then why don't I ever see phones in U.S. retail stores at retail price? Shopping online doesn't let me make sure the phone will fit in my hand. And why don't I see AT&T or T-Mobile advertising SIM-only plans for people who bring their own phone?
Even then.. you only own the hardware, not the OS, which is only LICENSED to you.
The owner of a lawfully made copy of an operating system has specific rights under United States copyright law (17 USC 117).
Nor do you, at that point, still have any right to use whatever SIM card you want to in it.
Citation needed.
NOR do you have any warranty.
Citation needed.
The equivalent of petrol in a phone is battery charge... last I checked, I didn't need to get apple authorization when I plug my phone into an outlet.
But other devices do use cryptography to control the flow of power. I've read about Motorola phones refusing to charge when connected to a charger that doesn't have Motorola's cryptographic key. I've read about Panasonic cameras refusing to boot when connected to a battery that doesn't have Panasonic's cryptographic key. Like the iPhone 3GS, these devices use cryptography to lock the user into buying complements from the same manufacturer.
To Jailbreak or not to Jailbreak that is the question.
Whether 'tis nobler in the iPod to suffer
the incompatible and non-standard applications
Or pay apple to ensure no troubles.
To me it is simple... Apple highly restrict software makes sure that for the average dough head their authorized software will work on there product. Unauthorized software on a jailbroken device might not. Look at all the hassle and flak that MS must take for trying to allow for every possible hardware configuration and crappy written software.
To me it is simple... if I download and install authorized apple software I trust it will work. The alternative has failed to gain my trust yet. When my device is old or I have a new one I will take significantly more risks with but that time has not come.
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Why would anyone buy a device where someone *else* decides what apps you can run and what you cannot run?
I wouldn't.
The reality is that:
(a) Jailbroken, I can run things Apple or AT&T don't want me to.
(b) As a developer, I can write and deploy ANYTHING I want to the phone (and if you don't care to make it dead simple for $99/year, you can always use the open toolchain to do the compiling).
You don't even always have to jailbreak to do something, for instance there's a simple file you download on the phone itself to enable tethering on AT&T in the U.S....
I don't understand why people ignore the reality of a situation to complain about the way something ships from the factory. The truth is the iPhone is jailbroken, and always will be - Apple doesn't really care so I don't see why anyone else should. As technical people we should be focused on what is possible, not how something arrives to us initially.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Sorry, I'm not understanding from where your confusion stems.
The first thing I tried to do after getting the iphone 3gs was to make a ringtone. I tried with AAC as numerous forums/blogs/etc mentioned--it did not work. I tried with apple lossless as other posts suggested if the first method didn't work. That worked. Does that make sense?
I just tried again with several different files...oddity upon oddity, aac method worked fine on all except for the first file I had tried which simply does not import into itunes after converted to aac and changed to m4r. So it appears I was more or less wrong--AAC _does_ still work (at least most of the time). The file that fails as a aac ringtone is an ogg file before conversion...I wonder if that could be an issue.
And also, FWIW, have no idea if this is trustworthy or not... http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-10115290-233.html
What makes you think that?
After all, the 3.0 jailbreak uses the same exploit that the 2.2.1 jailbreak did. If Apple were "actively working to stop" jailbreaking they would have changed that. A number of updates have done nothing to lock down already jailbroken phones.
They provide one walled garden, but don't care what other gardens you wander in. So how is that equal to "actively working to stop" you from using non-Apple approved apps when north of a million people do so every day?
The truth is that Apple looks at jailbroken apps as a research opporunity and looks to see what people do outside the confines of the normal SDK.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Maybe I'm being a dick here, but saying the 3Gs has Finally been hacked is a bit of an insult to the crackers that made it happen. I mean, the thing has been out a couple weeks and the fact that it took Only 2 weeks to accomplish is a pretty great thing.
When Apple released the 3.0 firmware, there was a lull in the QuickPwn software where they had not worked out some bugs and several people had to go without an unlocked/unjailbroken iPhone for a couple days. Reading the posts on the forums, I was very disappointed in the people that were demanding that the DevTeam hurry the hell up and make their phones work again. Instead of basking in the glory of iPhone freedom, they wanted to bitch and complain that things were moving too slowly and that they couldn't use their precious iPhones to Facebook or Tweet or whatever they needed to do. I can remember back in the day, sitting on BitchX and waiting for a crack-team to post the newest keygen for whatever the latest release of (game/software, etc...) and being patient about it because those guys were doing something I couldn't. They were providing a service that was completely free and that I had no right bitching at them about taking too long to add it to their servbots.
I'm too young to know if kids in past generations were this disrespectful to people that were doing favors for the community for free, but I'm too old to know if this is something that all young people do nowadays. Is this what happens when we make so many things quickly and easily accessible? I think kids today would do well to learn a little patience and develop an appreciation for how difficult some things in life can be, even if to them it's just a click away.
Now get off my lawn!
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Any other phone?
On my G1, I just drag the music I like to anywhere on the SD card. Then I can use the app Ringdroid to cut it down to the length I want and set it as the active ringtone, or if I just want it to ring from the beginning I can select it right from the music app while listening to it (Menu button > Use as ringtone).
That hardly seems as much of a hassle as importing, transcoding, and renaming. Maybe I'm just too dumb to see Apple's brilliance on this matter.
I'm a fan of the e70, and it's a nice phone, but other than bluetooth tethering and mobility across GSM providers, there's not much in terms of objective advantages to it vs the iPhone.
Tweet, tweet.
That may be true, but GSM is not the ULTIMATE platform either. CDMA rev. a can smoke GSM f depending on many factors.
CDMA will be basically dead in North America within 5 years. By September of this year, Telus (Canadian CDMA Provider) will have 3G GSM running in parallel with their CDMA network and by 2010, Bell (Canadian CDMA provider) will have brought online their 3G GSM network. By 2011, Verizon(CDMA), Bell(CDMA), Telus(CDMA), Rogers(GSM/UTMS), Fido(GSM/UTMS) and MetroPCS(CDMA) will have switched to LTE (4G GSM) leaving Sprint and a handful of small CDMA providers using that old technology.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
"If you care about security, don't use a jailbroken iPhone," said security researcher Charlie Miller, speaking at the SyScan security conference in Singapore on Thursday.
The process removes around 80 percent of the security protections built into the phone's software, making it more vulnerable, Miller said.
Lars T.
To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck
I am of a differing opinion.
I prefer the old Slashdot, just after karma was implemented but before all of the anti-trolling/anti-crapflooding countermeasures. It certainly was more entertaining and it was eaiser to use, even for non-trolls.
Here I am a user who has never done any actual trolling, yet I have to wait XX number of seconds between posts. If I want to comment anonymously I have to wait who knows how long between each. Hours? I can't make short posts no matter how useful. Can't use all caps even when appropriate. Can't make the same post twice.
Back in the day I could do all those things. Sure we had penis birds everywhere if you browsed a -1 and Shoeboy got a +5 Funny FP on every article, but that was a small price to pay for freedom. Another ancilliary benefit was that people usually recognized actual trolls rather than got trolled by them. If you were in doubt you could crosscheck a post at inchfan.
Page widening and goatse links did more to wreck the place than any actual trolls.
"Sacrifice for the good of The State" - The State
It's spelled "teat"
Yes, every one from Slashdot is here to protect me while I choose a phone for 'myself'. Thank you all for holding my hand! You guys are the best.
Is there anyone here who can help tell me if I'm hungry or not? If so, does the government still have that free cheese?
Also, I do not have to pay for features when they are released - Android update to 1.5 was free.
There is nothing gayer than a grammar nazi. Sorry, you are the gay one.
There is nothing gayer than a factually incorrect insult. I'm a spelling nazi, not a grammar nazi. Get it right so that your insults actually make sense in the future. So, sorry, you are the gay one.
daysbehind...... ...this was out late last week, where've you been?
I remember when /. had the bleeding edge in nerd-news....now; more and more, a day late and a dollar short.
There are 2 groups of people you can make fun of on the Internet without fear of attack. The illiterate, and the Amish.
http://audiko.net/
pwned.
Sorry, I'm not understanding from where your confusion stems.
It stems from the fact that you went from "it didn't work for me" to conclude, presenting it as fact, that it was because Apple doesn't want people making their own ringtones.
I know you were being honest, it's just the logical leap you made coupled with the fact that you didn't say something like, "probably because Apple doesn't want..." but instead, "my understanding is that...". Both are wrong, but one pretends to have actual knowledge.
The CNET article is probably true, but is from back before there was a proper way to put custom ringtones on an iPhone.
For quite some time now, though, Apple absolutely and under no uncertain terms allows you to make your own ringtones for your iPhone. If you're on a Mac, open GarageBand and notice the "iPhone Ringtone" option. If you're not, open iTunes and notice the "Store -> Create Ringtone..." menu item. If you do it through iTunes, you have to pay for it, and it's only available for some songs (the limitations and the charge are both absurd, but it's a music label thing). If you do it through GarageBand, it's absolutely free, and works in any non-DRM format that QuickTime supports (either natively or through a codec plug-in).
It stems from the fact that you went from "it didn't work for me" to conclude, presenting it as fact, that it was because Apple doesn't want people making their own ringtones.
If you go back and actually read my post, it started with "AFAIK" and preceded the statement about Apple not wanting people making their own ringtones with "my understanding." Given that I *wasn't* sure I ouched it in exactly those terms... Yeah, I was absolutely wrong, I totally admit that, but it didn't just come out of thin air--the blog/forum I can't remember which that recommended trying Apple lossless suggested the same thing.
I wonder if most iPhone users are on mac or not? I can tell you that with my parents (who just got iphnes as well), they were clueless as to how to make ringtones, and never would have been able to figure out (or correctly create) ringtones without my assistance. I never would have thought of using Garageband (which I actually deleted off my laptop) to make a ringtone...itunes is the logical place. Again, you're absolutely right that it's possible to create ringtones, but I do think my original point--that apple makes it a PITA to make ringtones, remains true...after all, why not be allowed to use any mp3/aac on the phone or easily make one in itunes? It's about the money...
Hey, rereading this post, I just wanted to make clear that you are right -- I shouldn't have posted unsubstantiated claims -- point taken!
Nitpicking, yes, but since "hacking" is quite confusing (for purists, misleading?) the title could have been "jailbreaked" or some other indicating it's been "cracked".
Yes, generally the context reveals the true meaning, but still.
"Simply living is nowadays a hack."