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  1. Irony is not obvious to everyone on Why the Sony PSP Had To "Go" · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    I wish people didn't use the word ironic when they truly mean something akin to poetic justice. Irony is when a phrase has an opposite meaning than it's literal meaning or intended meaning.

    What the author here is trying to convey is that it is cynically funny (funny to those who believe in human selfishness) that the two are correlated. Of course that does not equal causation, but now I'm just getting off topic (PS: I love the lemon graph at the top, I toss it in slide shows randomly to see if anyone is awake.)

  2. Re:Google or EC2 a "closed data service?" on Is Cloud Computing the Hotel California of Tech? · · Score: 1

    What would stop you from taking your data out of the cloud? SFTP not allowed? Can't access Mysql DB from outside? I'm asking honestly - I'd love to know.

    I agree, this whole article sounds like an end user rant. There is nothing to prevent one from using the available Facebook Web services to move data to whatever it is that you want to move it to say like MySpace. The problem being the marshalling and unmarshalling of data between services. If you really feel that it is a bad rub, then push for a standard in Social Networking protocols using whatever happy technology you want.

    I really think that the guy is bitching that when you put data up on the "cloud" that in order for someone else to actually see it they too must sign-up for the service (aka, it's not open to people who haven't signed up.) There again, I think the guy is mostly focusing on why can't someone put something on MySpace or Facebook and not have to have an account to see the content (much like YouTube I guess.) I don't know but I've never seen a problem with moving data in and out of Google or EC2, but there again I'm a developer so the end-user may be looking at this whole thing differently. The whole thing is incredibly interesting because in order to place a comment you have to sign-up and give out your email address.

  3. Your trying to contact IPv6 PI! on Verizon Refuses To Provide Complete IPv6 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I know it is a bummer but ARIN should not have issued PI addresses. Verizon is simply taking a stand on this issue. It's like blaming AT&T for not having DNS entries from OpenDNS. It's not AT&T's job to continuously keep up to snuff on every Tom, Dick, and Harry who puts up a DNS server or make's an independent entry. Likewise, it's not Verizon's job to get BGP information from independent routes. Yeah' it sucks big time and Verizon should be shunned for it, but really do you blame them? 2620:0/23 is a black hole on a lot of ISP's, why is Verizon special?

  4. Re:encrypted port forwarding on OpenSSH Going Strong After 10 Years With Release of v5.3 · · Score: 1

    Yeap that will about do it for any geek. I mean my definition of computer porn is heading over to newegg. Does any one else feel there's a Futurama quote somewhere in there?

  5. Re:This case is already over on Company Uses DMCA To Take Down Second-Hand Software · · Score: 1
    To clear it all up you can read the judgment that was passed here by Judge Richard Jones. To save you some time, run down to Section IV for the conclusion:

    For the reasons stated above, the court DENIES Autodeskâ(TM)s motion for dismissal or summary judgment (Dkt. # 20).

    So as you can see the action that the parent is talking about is a motion from Autodesk for summary judgment. The judge is just hearing arguments to determine if the case can be heard bench or by jury.

    If you read the judge's insight from the document it would sound like he will hear arguments for the case in bench trail and then send the case up to Ninth Circuit Appellate court, seeing how that's where the kluge is, you can tell from Section III sub-section 5 of the ruling how conflicted the judge is (but at least he mans up and picks one.)

  6. Re:Any systems depend on a pulse on Artificial Heart Recipient Has No Pulse · · Score: 3, Interesting

    perhaps enough monitors could be built in that it could via wifi or the like send signals to the local dispatch office if the blood stops flowing

    Finally, a use case for IPv6. Give an address to every human organ in every human. I purpose that we use the 2001:911::/32 address space so that it is easy to remember your organs' IP address.

    Oh God! I think I'm having a heart attack, quick someone SNMP to 2001:911:34A:2F71::2 and send the restart command!

  7. Re:Fake it 'till you make it on Bad PC Sales Staff Exposed · · Score: 1

    Yes, how did you know?! Those foolish bastards don't know what they turned down! Not bitter, just amazed that this is news, oh wait, this is Slashdot.

  8. Re:Fake it 'till you make it on Bad PC Sales Staff Exposed · · Score: 1

    Yes every company has goals that they cram down their employee's throats, very good (here's a biscuit).
    Most employee's just disregard it all as utter bullshit, because they don't give a damn, they rather not be promoted, they rather not deal with the stress, they're top out already, their hours are crappy every time why expect anything else... take your pick or make your own.

    Most jobs that don't require a college education / is your own company / has some sort of personal investment (because most people don't even value their own time anymore, so we can't count that as investment) is going to be a breeding ground for this type of shit, trust me I have some insight.

    The pay is crap, the demands are crap, the customers are crap, in fact (as far as the employee goes) the whole damn company is crap and the joke is really on the customer for having actually walked in with some expectation of knowledge from the workers. "Ha ha" you came to a crappy place for your computer, food, groceries, oil change, dot dot dot.

    So it really is sad that there are still people who walk into BestBuy and expect good service, blah blah blah, go take your money elsewhere no one gives a damn because the number of sheer stupid people born hourly; vastly out number the customers who got smart.

  9. Re:What's the Difference Between a Computer Salesm on Bad PC Sales Staff Exposed · · Score: 4, Funny

    They equipped her, someone whose most intensive task is copying photos off of a camera, with a quad core desktop with like 4 or 8 GB of RAM.

    So they were getting her ready for doing the same task on Windows 7? I would thank them.

  10. Re:Is this good news or bad? on Reddit Javascript Exploit Spreading Virally · · Score: 1

    The solution is for programmers to stop being idiots and write secure code

    Yeah because that mantra has really caught on, especially with Microsoft employees.

    Face it, programs are written by people, people are made to f*** up on epic scale, therefore, you need to be ready to handle epic f*** ups or just not play ball. Granted you don't get the same dynamic experience but that's the trade off. I'm sure the guy your quoting understands that.

  11. Look and Feel has become the OS on Firefox To Replace Menus With Office Ribbon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Apple has a look and feel that screams Apple. Most vendors comply with the look and feel. That Aqua, gray and blue like look.

    GNOME has a HIG that they really would love for everyone to follow. You're not forced to but, you can almost spot the applications that don't follow the GNOME HIG. That makes up a lot of the look and feel, add Ubuntu's wonderful brownish / orange; Fedora's blueish; or SuSE's green everywhere and you have a look and feel that screams the distro's GNOME.

    Microsoft has the Aero glass and wonderful (*snicker*) ribbon. Microsoft is slowly getting everyone on the glass and ribbon theme. There is no absolute rule that you must use glass and ribbon styles on your Microsoft application, but people notice when it doesn't match up. It gives Microsoft that Post-XP look and feel.

    In the end, operating systems are trying to make a look that defines them, that people can easily recognize. Much like Google has their own look and feel of blue and flat that they've got going on. People identify readily with a unique look and feel and that is, in a nutshell, cheap advertising. There is nothing wrong with developers not going along with the look and feel an OS uses, Winamp comes to mind as a big one, but it automatically points out that the user is using something different, something not part of the OS; and if the OS is using a really slick look and feel with all kinds of neat effects, not going with the OS look and feel makes you look dated, or posing (if you're trying to do your own slick look and feel effects.)

    For 90% of us here on Slashdot, this is all just a bunch of useless eye candy. However, it's a real important factor for the other whatever percentage of the general population who just buy into marketing hype.

    Chrome looks out of place on Windows sans the glass effect. It looks like a giant blue rubber browser. However, that doesn't mean that it is silly, just looks exactly not like a Windows Vista/7 application. We can debate the merits of looking like a Windows application till the cows come home, point being it looks out of place.

    Whatever your take is on the ribbon UI, I won't argue you there, but that's where Microsoft looks like they're heading for general UI, just like Mac OS X puts the menu bar at the top of the screen. It's just part of that look and feel and companies are very geared to have a distinct look and feel so that people can instantly recognize that the product in use.

    So are we going to toss stones at Mozilla for actually going the with the look and feel of a Windows program, when they try to achieve the same on Mac OS X and Linux? I think the better answer for all the people who are heading down to the rock quarry is: If you do not like the glass/ribbon look and feel, maybe you should change to an OS that matches the way you want it to look?

    I can almost hear the angry replies, but I will say this in my defense. The look, feel, and usability of a given OS is a marketable thing. I ditched Windows when I saw what they were going to do with Windows post-3.11. I couldn't stand it, but I understood that this was the way Microsoft was going (start buttons, browser like file navigation, etc...) I can not fight a war with a company that is trying to market stuff. So, I switched to an OS where I could dictate how things are going to work, Linux. I've not looked back since.

    We just need to understand that Mozilla is bringing their application to look like a Microsoft application, just like they did with the Linux version of Firefox when they added GTK+ integration. Just like they are trying to do with making Firefox look like a Mac OS X program. So, come on, if you don't like the direction MS is taking with their look and feel, stop waiting for more applications to break ties with the Microsoft look and feel. Instead, switch over to an OS that matches what you want. It's not that hard really, and after a few weeks, you won't notice the difference. Let's make peace, not cast stones.

  12. Re:Upgrade FTL on Windows 7 Upgrade Can Take Nearly a Day · · Score: 1

    you include an idiots guide to backing up files using an external HD/DVD or something like that.

    That was going to be an option for users who wanted to upgrade their Xbox 360 but since Toshiba pulled support for the format I don't think that it's likely that Microsoft would help anyone out with an upgrade. I hear that upgrade support comes with the purchase of a full copy of Windows 7, maybe you can help me get the word out?

  13. Re:Not an issue of AT&T, Apple, or "Fanboys" on iPhone 3.1 Update Disables Tethering · · Score: 1
  14. Re:IpV6 reality check on IPv6 Challenges and Opportunities · · Score: 1

    If you can't tell me how

    I believe that someone has already written a HOWTO. Besides, Comcast is looking into IPv6 deployments for consumers (to save you on that tunneling) around 2010 -2012.

    But the reality is this. You can connect to the Internet via IPv6 if you choose to want to. That's a big thing in the whole IPv6 debate. It is a question of if you want to or not, as opposed to if you can or not. Most people at the current moment do not want to, but they can if they truly want to. It would be a whole different debate if you totally lacked the ability to connect via IPv6. Soon enough, most people will want to switch to IPv6, companies that are not ready for this transition will find themselves at a competitive disadvantage. (see TFA)

  15. Re:IpV6 reality check on IPv6 Challenges and Opportunities · · Score: 1

    99%+ of the Internet *still* doesn't use IPv6.

    Really? Could you cite where you get your numbers? May I point you to here to get better numbers? I can personally speak for five or six Beowulf clusters at different universities all sending data to researchers and customers via IPv6 links.
    Seriously, just because no one on your block uses IPv6, does not mean that businesses, universities, government agencies, and telecos are not using IPv6 in large deployments. I am really confused at Slashdot's current trend that IPv6 deployments just aren't happening, when in fact I see companies switching to IPv6 deployments on a quarterly basis (disclaimer: yeah I know, it's not on some huge scale like daily basis, but some of the comments on Slashdot make it sound like the rate is 0.000%)
    Finally, the biggest thing that I have seen slow deployments of IPv6 is simply lack of knowledge of the protocol. Most admins that I run into off-site usually have no working knowledge of IPv6, or have limited experience in IPv6 deployment and working in a dual-protocol environment.

  16. Re:Good thing there's no IP on First Internet-Connected Pacemaker Goes Live · · Score: 1

    Blue face of death?

    Is that what's up with these guys?
    If so, I fail to see this as news.

  17. Re:Great on AT&T Makes Its Terms of Service Even Worse, To Discourage Lawsuits · · Score: 3, Insightful

    House Resolution 1020 is a bill that will address this kind of forceful arbitration. However, the bill is currently in committee and if people do not get the members of this committee to move this resolution to a floor vote, then this is all pretty moot. Please take a look at the members of the House Committee on the Judiciary. If one of the members is your Representative, write them. Otherwise this thing will most surely die in committee since this is not the most pressing matter on the public's mind.

    If your Representative is not listed as a member of the House Committee on the Judiciary but you live in the same state as a member of the House Committee on the Judiciary. Write your Representative to urge the member to move the bill to the floor, so that your Representative can get a chance to help you out. Usually, members of the same state know each other pretty well and talk to each other about broad topics that affect the state as a whole.

    If you live in a state that has no members on the committee. Check to see if your Representative or a Representative from your state co-sponsored the bill. If so, make your case using that point; if not, write your Representative asking why they did not co-sponsor the bill and make your point about how not having legal recourse affects you and your community in general.

    Always remember one big point when you write your Representative...Always make sure you make it entirely clear what it is you expect your Representative to do, and make sure it is within their power to do so. If you just tell them about HR 1020 and that they should support it, then all you are going to get back as a reply is, 'their sorry but it must make it out of committee before they can do anything about it, but if it does make it to the floor they'll be sure to consider it carefully. Yours truly, Rep. Blah Blah Blah (X-Your state).'

  18. Re:Fast way to shut down! on Windows 7 RTM Reviewed & Benchmarked · · Score: 1

    You cant magically get more CPU power.

    Very good! Instead of fake fast, magic fast, ninja fast or whatever you want to call it; how about "We reduced the number of system calls need to power down the system from a number represented by a Mersenne prime number, where the exponent approached infinity, to 3. Thus really reducing shutdown time by a factor close to infinity."

    Seriously, you can not make the CPU of a computer faster, but you can make the code more effective. Windows has set the pace of code bloat at an exponential rate.

    and the interface and updates do look quite nice.

    making sure interface and the system responsiveness improves a lot.

    I have had the wonderful chance to toy with Win7 at work. The thing can not crunch numbers, period. So let me buy a new computer while I am getting a new OS! Wow, that is a real selling point for me as a buyer. Pass. The machines we have must last longer. Buying new shiny machines is not the answer, not while the mantra is save money like you would save your job. The machines we have run Win7 like poo. So Win XP will continue to dominate our buildings. The company I work for runs on more than just nifty Interfaces and pseudo-looking-quickness. Seriously, try running Windows7 with an old 16MB VGA adapter, just so you can get a good feel of how Microsoft makes things look fast but really everything is just dog slow. Seriously, how much can you offload to the GPU? Why is Microsoft adding code that is only meant to be offloaded in the first place? Why in the name of Jebus are they making that code so core to the operation of the OS? Yeah, I know Mac OS X has got Aqua, Linux has Compiz, so MS had to just go out and get Aero! Blah, blah, blah, it is all fluff and just rises the cost of hardware I need to get simple tasks done. Besides, the other two do not force the slowness down your throat, they tend to make it a separable part of the OS. Do not just turn off Aero, actually keep everything the same in your system except put a old PCI VGA 16MB video adapter in place. Watch and have fun.

  19. Re:Report from the wife. on Sims 3 Expansion Announced · · Score: 1

    Ha ha. That's awesome! However, what people play rarely reflect what people do in real life.

    I know, I know, subconscious desire? If that be the case, then by going by her sims game, she wants to be a lesbian with five children, an evil scientist, have a five story house that makes no sense on how to get around, be young forever from her water cooler of life, have a robot friend that was built by her, and ride a helicopter to work everyday.

    Besides the children, any one of those is way too cool for me to say no to.

  20. Report from the wife. on Sims 3 Expansion Announced · · Score: 1

    Not too surprising move considering the first update pack for each Sims has been something neat, but overall, useless.

    The Sims: Living Large Pack - This pack basically adds 5 extra neighborhoods and a bunch of NPCs that would eventually be included by default in other Sims.
    The Sims 2: University - Now you can pack that brat away! Send your kids to college add extra abilities, new career paths. All things told, something you could have lived without.
    The Sims 3: World Adventures - Look's suspiciously like this pack.

    The first pack always seems to be a shake down by EA to test out the new expansion pack system in their product. By all of my wife's accounts, for whatever it may be worth here, the best packs are the date related ones (apparently this should be obvious, so I do not know how I totally missed it).

    At any rate, my wife has chosen to hold off on the Sims 3 until a date related expansion pack comes out for it, so to all the people here who are chanting (endless number of useless expansion packs to bring big money back to EA); the series has been around long enough that regular users of the Sims series have gotten the hang of how this all works, like my wife, some will sit out and wait for their choice of EP to come out. Some want to jump on the band wagon quickly. A few of the users that my wife chats with that have expressed intent on getting the first EP for the Sims 3 are ones that are coming from Castaway Stories. So I think that it all comes down that I do not think most people at EA believe that every person will want to owe every expansion pack (I'm sure that they feel that it wouldn't hurt if it did happen that way, but you have to be real about what you are selling). I think EA is going to put out a ton of different stuff out there and let the user base decide how they want to piece them together.

    Just my two cents and a couple more from the misses.

  21. Re:and yet NYC still has traffic jams on Rude Drivers Reduce Traffic Jams · · Score: 1

    Well we are a minority on Slashdot. That is fine. I find it funny really that the mass of these people advocate for fuel saving technology such as batteries and what not but are also the first to advocate drive like a bat out of hell! Because it is safer somehow this way.

    Well cannot win them all. I am just glad I am not part of the majority on this one.

  22. Re:and yet NYC still has traffic jams on Rude Drivers Reduce Traffic Jams · · Score: 1

    Fine, just stay out of the left lane.

    Fair enough, which I stay out of the left lane at any rate, but I will continue to do so, as for you please stay out of my right lane.

    Sure, but it is the expected speed in good conditions.

    Could you please cite what law states this, for your state of course, I would not think to ask someone to research the laws of my home state.

    The speed limit is often political, and is defined for the crappiest car that's road worthy

    You are correct, the speed limit as defined is established by political figureheads for each state. There is nothing wrong with your speed or the lack of my speed, we each believe something different about the established policy for speed on a given road. I am sure that you understand the consequences of your speed as much as I understand mine.

    That being said, there are many people on Slashdot today that attribute the problems to ignorance or just subconscious theory. However, I wish to point that subconscious ideas are planted into the minds of people by many methods, ignorance is developed by several methodologies (lack of training, insufficient training, and so forth.)

    In conclusion to my previous message I present one methodology and am marked as flamebait. Why? I am not sure because the big reason that Slashdot users tend to agree to is that we, the general public, is to blame for our current woes. I would say disagree but flamebait?

    Because some people don't want to drive fast, but can't stand the idea of someone passing them. Pretty messed up, really.

    That too may be a possibility but does it get to the root cause of the problem? Why do people not want to speed? Why do people not want to be passed? Why do people continue this illogical thought process? Whereas, I believe that all things being probable, the subconscious is to blame for a marked percentage. The logic being that the driver understands that they are falling behind and thus react on the knowledge given, "not going with the flow is dangerous." Therefore, they act upon the information given and increase speed. Therefore this brings us to our root cause; word of mouth of instructions detrimental, not fully explained, not fully understood, or not fully trusted has landed us a group of people who forgo common courtesy and act on unsafe, incorrect, and/or unjustified instinct. The solution to which is to forgo the disinformation, change the aspect of the information, or allow the information to be taught by people who understand how to properly teach information to the general public. In fact, I am sure more solutions may arise but since this is not the forum to explain solutions, I am sure that people are smart enough to find the proper methods to discuss this, I simply leave it as a question to ponder.

    Does someone care to explain why the logic given is flamebait? Or does someone wish to show what acute view that they took on the post that brought them to the conclusion of flamebait? I am all ears and eyes.

    But I doubt that any real conclusion can be made on an forum that is "News for Nerds." Only random chaos. Now that moderator, is flamebait, do you see the difference?

  23. Re:But with WalMart on The Downsides to Digital Distribution · · Score: 2, Informative
    Having worked in 3PL with a Wal-Mart Vendor. The factory farms and slave labor are not the only ones to suffer. In China, Cambodia when China got too high, workers are paid about 0.10 USD per dozen of box of product (each box being thirty-two pieces, I am sure you can do the math.) Once here, the ship yard receives roughly 0.03 USD per box of product to ship it over here. Customs, paperwork, 3rd party consignee at the bay, transport to the truck / train yard, Bill of Lading creation, and so on (basically everything before it actually gets to the warehouse) is about 1.12 USD per box, split among a large amount of individuals. Let us see, that is basically 1.16 USD thus far.

    By the time it gets here, it is unloaded, sorted, placed into a pick-to-light lane (PTL), blah blah blah (see here.) All to the tune of 0.22 USD per pair of shorts or 7.04 USD per box.

    It is shipped out, taken to a Wal-Mart DSDC (which is also the name of their software for handling this, fun!), sent to a Wal-Mart via whatever method, and then some lacky getting paid around 9.00 USD an hour places it on a rack for your greasy hands to purchase.

    Wal-Mart sells the standard sizes at 10.00 USD last I checked and plus-sizes at 12.00 USD. That would equal 320.00 USD per box for regular size and 384.00 USD per plus-size. Adding what I can see, 8.20 USD has been spent to get it out the door to Wal-Mart. That leave them 311.80 USD for regular sizes and 375.80 for plus-sizes to spend to get it to their store.

    I do not know how much is spent getting through the Wal-Mart Network of warehouses, but I doubt that it is over 100.00 USD. I am sure you can see how much is left in profit.

    But that is neither here nor there.

    either the product quality suffers

    Oh please, that is a wonderfully large understatement! I do remember a day where thirty-six cuts were released by the vendor QC department because Wal-Mart demanded that the products be at their stores, now. However, if someone notices that the product is faulty then Wal-Mart blames the vendor because they told them to "get the product in the store, now" not "send us crappy clothes outside of spec."

    It is a fun game that Wal-Mart plays with their vendors. At any rate the vendor went bankrupt, the 3PL dropped the account, and I went on to find a better job.

    No one said that anything had to be fair, might as well be professionally unfair while you are at it.

  24. Re:and yet NYC still has traffic jams on Rude Drivers Reduce Traffic Jams · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    so many people seem unwilling to even get up to the speed limit, let alone exceed it by a few miles per hour

    When you are paying for my gasoline, I will let you choose what speed I decide to move at on the road. Here our speed limit is set to 70. I get better gas mileage at 65. Everyone else goes 83 except truckers, I guess gas just is not high enough for people who speed.

    For me, however, I will go at the speed that I choose to move at. The "Speed Limit" is not the "Minimum Required Speed", here that is set to 40. So by my understanding of the law where I live, I am allowed to legally operate my vehicle between 40 and 70 miles per hour. Seeing how 65 is within that range, I am not sure what people do not understand.

    as if you're going to get a ticket for 48 in a 45

    Yes you will. At least in my state where the budget has been in such a crunch that 73 in a 70 will get you a nice $125 ticket.

    To quote a friend of mine, who had a lovely encounter with the local boys in blue:
    Officer: Good day, do you know how fast you were going?
    Friend: I believe that I was going 57, sir? (this being a 55)
    O: You do understand that is considered speeding?
    F: Is there not a five mile give or take?
    O: (just to be a wonderful asshole, I guess.) No, maybe you should write your representative and have it added to the state law, but for now I am writing you a ticket.
    F: (mentally) *not safe for children*

    So yes, I doubt that the majority of the time you will receive a ticket for one or two over the limit, but that legally does not hold water in my state and you may need to check yours.

    it's the people who drop below the speed limit simply because one is nearby

    Wow, this would not be a problem if say everyone say followed the law on the road. Now I know that may be a tall request or just simply an impossibility. But say 60% of the population, oh hell, say 40% of the population actually went the speed limit? How often would one encounter this type of sudden slow down?

    "hypermilers" who don't understand lights are timed for the speed limit

    I really want to live wherever it is you are. Here lights are timed to ensure that you receive a ticket by going an unsafe speed or rapid acceleration. Seriously, one light was taken down by court order. So I do not know about you, but I lack trust in this claim, call me paranoid.

    I would like to point out that your suggestions are fine but really I do believe that a driver should respect other drivers and not make demands that they feel would "better" traffic. What is your hurry? People who tend (that is 40% by me) to be in a hurry did not plan enough time to execute whatever path they choose to take. That would also include time should traffic come to a stand still. However, it is how one values their time and life, neither are pairwise. One must choose to decrease their time on the road by increasing their speed, given equal times of departure. By doing so, one increases their risk on the road by reduction in reaction time, setting a new group trend where people make you "the rabbit" (you know the one that will get pulled over by the police should one be around the corner,) underestimating the operation parameters of your vehicle, and so forth.

    Remember the speed limit is created as the maximum safe speed for a given length of road on favorable conditions. So I continue to ask everyone, what is your hurry?

    For all those who are wondering about why people tend (see that 40% thing again) to speed up while you are passing them? Ask yourselves how many people who you have suggested that "keeping with the flow of traffic is safer than keeping with the speed limit?" Finally, ask yourself, "at face value what behavior does this encourage?"

    This is my two cents. It is not an attack on what you believe because I simply do not buy the beliefs of other people. I blame 1984.

  25. Re:The perfect way to minimize our carbon footprin on Northern Sea Route Through Arctic Becomes a Reality · · Score: 1

    Melting it would have no additional effect on sea level.

    This is true. Sea levels would not change. However, consider the release of massive amounts of fresh (well extremely low salt content) water into the connected oceans. The massive cooling process could be enough to stop the North Atlantic Current and begin a cooling cycle for most of Europe.

    <sarcasm> I for one welcome the removal of that troublesome ice sheet up north and that nasty continent Europe. For too long, Europe by existing has prevented America from having a Monopoly on the global economy. Just think of the fuel savings with 730 million people gone!</sarcasm>